Justin Trudeau wants to resurrect a program that failed in Ontario under Kathleen Wynne, the guaranteed annual income. Yep, he wants to take national a program that will see you work harder so your lazy cousin doesn’t have to.
Justin Trudeau wants to resurrect a program that failed in Ontario under Kathleen Wynne, the guaranteed annual income. Yep, he wants to take national a program that will see you work harder so your lazy cousin doesn’t have to.
– Same question that the Left always stumble-on:
“Ah, very nice; now, who’s going to pay for it?”
“Err… umm… uhh, why, YOU are.”
Where is this idiot going to get the money? Oil? Gas? Steel? Aluminum? Daddy’s secret account?
China?
Oh, not anymore!
Justin made China rather upset. Canada needs to be brought to heel to its Chinese master, don’t you know?
Oh yeah … sorry … I’ve already forgotten that he arrested the Huawei exec. … in a feeble attempt to embarrass and destabilize Trump’s tariff negotiations with the RED Chinese. Didn’t quite come off as planned.
Kinyobesan you’re a smart guy so you already know it ain’t coming from grandpa’s (not daddy’s) stash of cash down in the Caymans.
Speaking of daddy, though, Trudeau I and his crypto-commie cabinet underlings used to beak off about “guaranteed annual income” way back in the 70s. Despite his scintillating brilliance, Trudeau I was not an original thinker. The guaranteed annual income bs might actually have originated back in Pearson’s minority government when the NDP ran the government and the Liberals cowtowed. Pearson had some real crypto-commies in his cabinet. This has mostly gone down the ol’ memory hole. Old wine in new skins.
Trudeau I also used to pontificate about “north-south dialogue” all the time. While Maggie was clubbing with the rock stars and doing lines ol’ Pierre would cart off Justine and preach about wealth disparity in the third world s-holes. This was a dog whistle to his fellow travellers which meant government confiscation from the productive class and redistribution to third-world. As Ron Paul used to say, foreign aid is nothing more than stealing from the poor in rich countries, and giving to the rich in poor countries. Les Trudeaux love the basic dictatorships and the “maximum leaders”.
At any rate, nothing came from either idiotic proposition, but Canada wasn’t so severely screwed up as it is now. Look out below.
When is that vote of no-confidence?
Aren’t we already paying for freeloaders–you know, the ones who are escorted across our southern border, who get to stay in posh hotels for nothing, who get free medical and dental care, all claiming to be “refugees”?
BA, I’ll go find JJM and get a reading on that fer yah!!!
Who pays for it? Wrong question. Will enough voters think this is a great idea? Liberals are now betting on it.
Enough voters thought legalized pot was a great idea, and look who we ended up with.
Too many have forgotten the wisdom of the past generation.
Milton Friedman: Responsibility to the Poor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rls8H6MktrA
Meanwhile, Albertans are still waiting for the universal basic income promised them by the Social Credit party—a promise that the Liberals, at the behest of Bay Street, did everything in their power to prevent the Socreds from keeping.
A national dividend is only feasible if the right to issue money and regulate its value has been restored to the people, and debt-free money can be issued in whatever amount is deemed appropriate.
Right now, that power remains in the hands of the banks. In our current financial system any “universal basic income” will be paid for either with higher taxes or a larger debt owed to Canada’s creditors from Bay Street to Beijing.
Come back to us, Reverend Aberhart. The Dominion needs you.
Bible Bill’s funny money proposal was denounced as preposterous monetary chicanery by the ruling establishment of the day. I don’t know if Keynes ever read Major Douglas’s book on Social Credit, but the esteemed rulers of today (all Keynesians) have no doubt whatsoever about the respectability and efficacy of fiat money-printing. If Bill had been alive when Nixon “temporarily” closed the gold window in 1971 he could have taken a bow.
I have decided to become the lazy cousin. Just give me my money and add it to the national deficit. As I am older have no natural descendants, and the stepsons won’t be having kids, I don’t care anymore who pays off the debt, if it ever gets paid off. Let the banks foreclose on the country, I don’t care anymore.
Davis: I’m getting to that point now…unless the young people (snowflakes) aren’t prepared to VOTE TRUDEAU and the LIE-BRALS OUT OF OFFICE in the next election…we can KISS CANADA goodbye. I don’t care anymore voting for TRUDEAU because he is so cute give me a break ladies, girls and the LBQT????? community! Start using your brains that GOD gave you!!
Canada has been on the ropes for decades now. The knockout punch is coming. More welfare immigrants and more liberal socialist spending in a country that generates less wealth each year.
He’s desperate and flailing. This government is out of ideas.
Exactly.
We already have that….it’s called “equalization”.
Joey: Isn’t Guaranteed Income for every individual the same thing.
This show of desperation is sorry and pathetic,Trudeau/Butts is flailing about to find an idea that will resonate with the dumb voters of Canada, but I doubt this one will work.
Gerald,maybe try offering a free case of Labatt’s Blue with every purchase of an ounce of government weed, just might work.
Please tell me the voters are too intelligent to fall for this one,please.
Lie to me.
It fell flat with Ontarians. I doubt they’re gonna fall for the rehash.
John Ivison had a decent article today about Trudeau’s worsening polls numbers. It’s hardly certain electoral death but Trudeaumania is long gone and buried.
Vote for me and I will give you money.
Isn’t that illegal?
If Libranos do it then it is not illegal. That’s the Canadian way.
For a very short time, after my training-wife and I divorced, I lived in a suburban Christian “community” (aka commune). Actually, it was 4 separate single family detached homes all located near one-another in a typical suburban neighborhood. The “community” consisted of 4-married couples, their small children, and 4 single adults including me. Some of the residents worked, and some did not. Only two had career jobs, others, worked menial jobs.
Chalk it up to my “selfishness” … but it deeply bothered me, that my rent payments were going to support several adult “slackers” in the community. Adults who barely worked, and then, nowhere near their potential. But we were all Christians!? Right!? I guess I forgot the verses where Christ encouraged slackerhood and not living up to God’s gifts and potential He/Xe gave you.
I had no problem with the stay at home mothers home schooling their children, or supporting the one single woman who was somewhat mentally incapable. They easily fit into my sense of compassion. But not so with the fully capable adult slackers.
I have lived Justine’s FREELOADING citizen proposal … and it only begets resentment. In the end, I imagine many able-bodied workers will simply STOP working … out of a sense of outrage and impropriety.
,,,,sign the dairy and wheat farmers up first
And the argument is always that it will enable other welfare programs to be scaled-back.
Naturally slothful people take advantage, put it up their nose or in their arm and still require/demand assistance.
The funny thing is the proponents are the ones who use the “beer and popcorn” slur.
I hope they promise it – debt and deficit is the leading poll issue of late.
wasn’t it Jimmy Carter that tried this…..welfare was too restricted and didn’t pay enough
…and the second he put it into effect…enrollment doubled
So where do we get people to work at MacDonalds,Burger King, and Timmies? If they can get nearly as much as they get now for free guess how much you will be paying for a burger in Justines alternate reality!
In theory, it’s a huge improvement on the SQ. There is no way in hell it would actually fall out that way. You’d have to be the dumbest post in the post store to believe otherwise.
Vote for me and I will give you money.
Isn’t that illegal?
It is a beautiful plan.
Using the beneficiaries of the “Guaranteed Income” as justification and convenient scapegoat,for the massive stealing by our institutional kleptocracy.
“But everybody does it”.
“I am no more a thief than any welfare recipient”.
“I am entitled to my entitlements”.
So naturally a clueless spokesman for our parasitic overlords would speak in support of such an stupid idea.
The lisping bonehead is still “working to expand the middle class”
Which will consist of persons taking from the public purse, who will always vote for whoever promises them “More,more free stuff”.
Keep the muppets dependent and under control.
Wouldn’t want Canadians to have any agency. The debt slaves might escape.
It’s the same kind of crap that mobilized the kiddie set to vote for him using pot as a carrot. Now that the kiddie set has legal pot, they need money to buy it , …. and working for it is so yesterday. Millennials will probably love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGvrmltfMrA
“At some point, there will be a universal guaranteed minimum income in Canada for all Canadians,” Jean-Yves Duclos said.
You know they are math adverse so let’s see what this costs you ?
I can’t find consistent stats so this will be off a bit but good enough to get a rough idea:
61 % = 2011 Canada Census data – % of people that are working
this implies 39% not working
$51000 = 2017 median income
$17000 = guaranteed income from link
39% Non-working/61% working X $17000 = $10900 = What each worker must contribute to non-workers.
10900/51000 = 21% of median income,
So every working Canadian will spend one day working every week for somebody else.
If you subsidize something – you will get more of it.
How many people in the world slave away endlessly for a lot less that $17000 CAD ?
RIMcMT: There is already a universal guaranteed income starting at $17000. per person diff. for couples I think it is $23,000. It pays you not to marry anyway since this is already available you just have to apply for it and pass the questions applied. What the Lie-brals I think are doing is getting us Canadians use to fact that there is a Universal guaranteed income for all. The Economic Migrants start coming next year and will get this automatically when landed. Trudeau and his Lie-bral team will probably have some surprises for the TAXPAYERS IN 2019 YOUR personal taxes will rise ON THE MIDDLE INCOME CANADIANS making them poorer. THE CARBON TAX IS NOTHING BUT A TAX ON US FOR LIVING!! VOTE OUT THE LIE-BRALS IN 2019….VOTE OUT THE LIE-BRALS IN 2019!
It will be like in the old Soviet Union. We will pretend to work and the government will pretend to pay us.
Turdeau will sock it to anyone making over $200k a year.
https://www.policyalternatives.ca/publications/reports/how-much-income-tax-could-canadas-top-1-pay
“How much more could Canada’s richest 1% be paying in income tax? This study concludes that there is more than enough scope for the federal government to raise the top marginal income tax rate on those earning $200,000 or more to 33%. In fact, during Canada’s high growth years between 1940 and 1980, the top marginal income tax rate was well over 70%.”
“The findings find that a new 65% marginal tax rate for top earners could yield between $15.8 billion and $19.3 billion in additional tax revenue.”
In 2019 I predict Turdeau will campaign on taxing the 1% and rich corporations. This gives him the money to pay for a universal income. Plus the unsaid side “benefit” of getting small business and corporations to move out of Canada, thus decreasing Canada’s CO2 emissions!
Obviously this would be offered to irregular immigrants awaiting citizenship as well, it’s only fair.
MOOSEMILK: EXACTLY ECONOMIC MIGRANTS along with the Refugees and Illegal Migrant border crosser’s. So we can all live HAPPILY EVER AFTER!!! You should read the “The LEAP MANIFESTO” TRUDEAU is trying to destroy the Canada we know and love. COMMUNISM HERE WE COME!!
I have a grandson who has been sitting on his ass, supported by his mother for two and a half years since he graduated from high school. He spends a lot of time playing video games, applies for the occasional job online but basically hasn’t looked very hard for one. People tell him about companies who are hiring but he won’t apply because “that’s not what I want to do”. His mother is finally getting fed up and told him he’s going to start paying $600 per month room and board or get out. He will definitely vote for Trudeau, if that mincome program is enacted, he’ll never have to look for a job again.
I recall reading that Finland tried a guaranteed minimum income for all citizens, announced with great fanfare, and a few years later it was quietly abandoned. Gee, who would have thought such a scheme wasn’t viable???
and Finland still have a hi unemployment rate. Ain’t socialism just great. You buy gas over there on credit, and hope to have it paid off before the tank empties:-)))
Fishworld has had the guarantee for decades. Its called unemployment insurance or 10-42. You work 10 weeks at some fake govt job and they go on ‘the pogey’ as they say. Even self employed fisherman qualify.
Nothing to see here folks.
I miss my old pogey days….
Income? Really? I thought income was money received for providing goods or services. Big government controls the language but it is still welfare, money for nothing. On the bright side maybe now the wastrels can afford legal weed. Government collects weed taxes and whole economy balances itself.
I wonder where that idea came from?