…about four in ten people who are thought to be unconscious are actually aware
One in five people with severe brain injury from trauma will recover to the point that they can live at home and care for themselves without help
The term [permanent vegetative state] should be dropped and that pain relief should be given to patients affected
These are the startling conclusions of a new US practice guideline for managing prolonged disorders of consciousness (PDOC) issued earlier this week.
h/t Instapundit. Read it all.
“…about four in ten people who are thought to be unconscious are actually aware”
Imagine my surprise when I discovered this link wasn’t about Liberals or Democrats.
kinda like those under general anesthetic, immobilized by one drug but fully conscious because the sleep inducing drug didnt work.
aaaaaaand the medical ‘professionals’ dismiss it all when they recount who said what when and who did what when. google it.
‘ignore the guy behind the curtain’ syndrome.
lot of that going on . . . . .
You think the Arab and Pakistani hacks who pass for doctors in much of the developed world don’t know this? They simply don’t care. The money they get from illegal sales of organs for transplants is just too good to pass up.
If the poor soul brought into the ER after a road accident isn’t Muslim, the Arab and Paki hacks have no incentive to actually save his life, and every incentive to declare him DOA and start ripping out his vital organs, never mind that the poor soul can feel himself being torn apart by his murderers.
Like every other monstrous thing they do, they only have moral qualms about it when Jews and Christians do it.
I am assured by our moral and intellectual superiors that Israeli doctors are not above using organs from Palestinian terrorists who take their own lives in police custody. I am expected to be outraged. If that’s true, on the contrary, it would be the only good the Arabs had ever done a living soul.
There’s no way the above comments were made by people who read the whole article. The third one has me so confused I’m going to take a nap. Off your meds, A Canadian?
Some day a doctor might have to make a decision about you or a family member; try not to be dumb.
Off his meds? Apparently you have not had sufficient opportunities to interface with the current medical regime. I could tell you stories of childbirth, surgeries and deaths that would make you think twice, but since you failed to think once, I will not bother. Ascribing your health and life to one lone individual who despite his training is limited to what he thinks he knows is foolhardy. Doctors are not gods, stop treating them like deities.
p.s. training in many countries is indeed tied in with religious observance.
sooooo, Indiana jone, ewe don’t get in cars either?????
As I say a lot this year, I’m going to be 90 (in 8 days) and you have no idea what opportunities I’ve had. I obviously didn’t read the same article the rest of you have read because I saw nothing about ascribing your health and life to one lone individual, nor did I see anything about doctors from countries I assume are Middle Eastern. Two doctors came to see my family and I after my husband’s massive stroke and allowed us to decide whether or not we wanted him taken off support, and we were offered the comfort of clergy as well.
I’m going to make a cup of tea and read the article again because obviously I misread it and didn’t understand the premise, which is very easy when you realize that it’s possible only 95% of my brain cells are functioning.
gellen, strapon, (Ass kanadian) is an insane bigot.
I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me quality of life or give me death.
(With due respect to Patrick Henry)
The conclusions reached in the article address “staying alive” as if it were the most important aspect of brain damage. It’s faux religious dogma. Human life is sentient and if there is a spark of divinity in humans it is in their ability to think and reason at a high level. Life as a bed ridden, helpless, unaware, mass of tissue is the very definition of the Christian Hell. You may say there is always hope. I say bullsh*t. You may say it is against god’s will. I scoff at this “false logic” brought to you by those who prolong your life ARTIFICIALLY and profit by it.
David, heaven, the ultimate prize for Christians, is fought against tooth and nail by Christians. Hypocrites just doesn’t cover it. I am an avid supporter of “right” to choose. As your post suggests , life with out “quality” is living hell!!!
For those of you who didn’t read it the basic gestalt is that it’s possible to be misdiagnosed as brain dead and have your treatment withdrawn when actually the patient might have recovered if given the proper treatment.
So comforting to know that if you have told people to pull the plug you could end up in a situation where you are killed when you could have recovered and lived normally. I’ve told plug puller proponents this is a real possibility but they won’t have it. No one who’s dealt with an incompetent doctor would ever trust them to make any of these kinds of decisions.
I didn’t know they made those decisions, and I’m very sure you will discover that they don’t. Not knowing what country you live in, let me tell you that I know of no hospital in Canada where a doctor (competent or incompetent) makes the decision. In fact, I know one family who made sure the medical staff wouldn’t take it upon themselves to revive their loved one – it was on a sign above the bed large enough for anyone to see – and yet they still resuscitated him.
Maybe we should be getting the names of the Canadian hospitals where this occurs. Are they in small cities?
I’m beginning to wonder, are some of you thinking of the Terri Schiavo case? If so, ask yourself what decision you would have made if she had been your loved one? You will remember that the doctors did not make the decision to remove her support.
Terri’s parents wanted her alive and were willing to care for her.
It was her unfaithful husband who wanted her dead, and in the end, it was he who got what he wanted.
Because killing severely disabled people is somehow a good thing, apparently.
and when they did the autopsy the coroner found her brain, er, ‘brain’ was mush.
so the husband was right even if motives were suspicious according to the media at the time.
I recollect posting on a blog at the time that Ms Shiavo needed her OWN attorney looking out for HER interests and got shouted down as ‘not knowing the facts of the case’
one of the facts of the case it was a battle between the parent’s lawyer and supporters and hubby’s lawyer and supporters.
AND there is a very distinct DIFFERENCE between administering a procedure/substance/whatever which would result in the death of for instance a healthy individual, and WITHHOLDING treatment/procedure/whatever which then *allows* the terminal patient to die *on their own* free of any exceptional intervention or whatever point on the spectrum of medical knowledge at the time.
Do you intend to miss my point here?
HER PARENTS were willing to take care of their daughter. They were overruled by a man who, after his wife’s illness, went and had an affair with another woman, then petitioned to have his first wife killed. Presumably so he could marry the new woman.
And people like you are OK with this.
Do you understand why people – particularly the disability community – is so adamant in their opposition to this sort of thing?
PS: Read this if you think that having a mushy brain means it’s OK to do to Terri what was done to her.
https://qz.com/722614/a-civil-servant-missing-most-of-his-brain-challenges-our-most-basic-theories-of-consciousness/
It is much easier to pull the plug than it is to advance any medical cause.
If the brain has incredible recuperative powers or could be repaired, then why not do it? Why have various medical technologies and medications only to refuse to use them?
I’d like to crash some heads together. Who refuses to use the technologies and medications if the decision is always left to the family? What you are saying would require you to sign a card to that effect because you’re not dead and you couldn’t write it in your will. So let’s recommend that everyone signs such a card at age, what? sixteen? They can’t make the decision at birth so what do you suggest would be a good age?
Or would you be happier with test tube humans who have no loved ones?
God in Heaven, this one requires a large Baileys.
Your argument is with people who would pull the plug on people who not really dead or simply allow unlimited euthanasia because old people cost money.
Enjoy your drink.
It will also mesh nicely with implied consent for harvesting organs .
. . . about four in ten people who are thought to be unconscious are actually aware.
So, there’s still hope for Justin Trudeau?
They certianly can think better then a lot of these little collage snowflakes and especialy a certain little twat named David Hogg who needs his sippy cup
That needs to be swept under the rug asap.
We can’t let that undermine our genius two-birds-with-one-stone Liebrano strategy.
Our brilliant initiative of euthanizing old white males who are not likely to support the party?! I mean come on, they don’t deserve any care at all. That smelly oil-drilling truck-driving cow-herding hoi polloi. Uh, l’affront!
Do you think they’re on to us..?
Quick, let’s do our 5 minutes of Trump hate and get the rest stoned.
Yeah, that’ll work.
Not moving from Sussex drive
Turdo the Dumber
/sarc off