Donald Trump’s October 24, 1999 Meet the Press interview with Tim Russert is a historically illuminating flash forward to the most surprising, promising and history-altering opportunity since the Soviet Union collapsed: “denuclearizing” North Korea without the could-be belligerents waging a hideously destructive war that scars East Asia and seeds a global economic depression.
Yes, those are the stakes: millions of dead and trillions of debt.
In the interview, Russert says Trump once indicated if he were president he would attack North Korea preemptively in order to end its nuclear threat.
Despite Russert’s vapors and wailing, Trump’s grammatically-challenged beer and barbecue answer is a superb twofer. One: Trump answers Russert’s core question. Two: Trump accurately summarizes the American government’s spaghetti-spined responses to North Korea’s slow but insidious quest for nuclear weapons.
Morning news: The Koreas said they hope the parties will be able to declare an official end to the war by the end of this year.
Things you’ll never see at the CBC…
South Korea’s Foreign Minister tells me in Seoul that “clearly credit goes to President Trump” for bringing North Korea to the negotiating table. “He’s been determined to come to grips with this from day one,” Kang Kyung-wha says.
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— Christiane Amanpour (@amanpour) April 26, 2018
A positive tweet and sound bite from Christiane Amanpour? That’s progress in it’s own right.
What nuclear threat?
Nuclear weapons are meant to be deployed, not employed.
Why would China lob ICBMs at the US — it’s largest and irreplaceable export market? (Let’s not forget the $1.3 trillion that the US owes China.)
“I fail to understand what the panic is all about.” Kosta Tsipis, MIT
“I fail to understand what the panic is all about.”
I agree. To hear some people, you’d think we were facing immediate Armageddon.
It will be interesting to see if there is any more grudging acknowledgment of Trump’s role here; it must really stick in the craw of the chattering classes that perhaps The Donald’s tough position with the Kimster and his toy nukes really made the difference.
So North Korea is agreeing to end something that’s not happening anyways — war. Great achievement!
Now, when will the North Korean Communist Party relinquish it’s monopoly on political and economic power?
holy fvck rizball, uninformed and a beyond Unthing stupidity. You sound as bad as the lefty who verbally wanked off about the fact that the La Qaeda didn’t have a delivery system for a nuke, so were was the panic, did THEY think that the terrorists would Fed Ex the sucker, which was exactly would THEY were worried about
what did I tell you.
apparently the “fire and fury” vid clip was a rerun of 1999.
apparently it took the election for the message to gain credibility where it needed to be.
it could be 50 years from now when we’re still surrounded by pundits THIS will be Trump’s lasting legacy.
I dont take the ‘wait and see’ attitude, my instincts are this is the best the korean sit’n has been since 1953.
Once again a Republican president ending a Democrat war. Kudos to President Trump whom I suspect will go down in history as one of the greatest presidents in US history.
Again – pleeeaaassseee… This is Li’l Kimmie after all, and all of it fits his playbook and has been done before – several times. “But this time will be DIFFERENT!” Uh-huh.
If he really REALLY means it, let him start with some goodwill – return U.S.S. Pueblo, a gesture that’d cost him nothing and signify a great, big, bold new beginning for both the U.S. and the North Korean people. “Returning our GREAT TRIUMPH to its rightful owners, our former enemy!”
No? He’s not doing that? Imagine how shocked I am. -_-
Absolutely.
The Kim Jong dynasty is right now as great a threat to the worlds security and it’s own people’s health as it was last month, last year or last decade. All his recent bleatings confirm to me is that the sanctions have reached a point where the fat little greedy f*ck’s lavish lifestyle is being hindered.
The Nork’s are a desperate country. Economically they are dependent on the Chinese who are playing hardball. Their nuclear program physically collapse at their test site where over 200 of their people died. Radioactive risk to China, S. Korea and Japan. We won’t worry about the Ruskies.
The Nork’s cannot be trusted and in fact could still do something desperate. I am sure Trump and his team will not have a lot of faith in anything signed. Verification will be everything. Laughable that when the progressives like Obama sign a deal it is earth shattering but when Trump does a deal it is all about how he gave to much away.
Christiane is a gonna get Kanyeied !
Yeah, I was surprised to see that on “the CNN” and “the PBS”, truthfully.
Nobel Peace Prize for Trump?
Breaking news: South Korea Banned By Twitter.
Remember All the hand wringing over President Trump’s bellicose Rocket Man tweets?
“OMG! Trump will get us nuked!” And other talking head idiocy.
It is called pacing. PDT matched Kim’s rhetoric. In part, he made Kim Jong Un realize just how stupid and non productive his bombastic bleats were. PDT also explained to Xi that China will be held responsible for North Korea, and China needs American trade more than we need Chinese trade. Add in the real, hard, complete sanctions, and Kim has no other options left.
President Donald Trump has decided not to paper over, but to actually end the North Korean problem. He will do it peacefully while actually improving the lives of the Nork Peasants.
PDT will succeed, despite the hand wringing of all the credentialed, in bred foreign policy elites. These Western Nomenklatura and supposed learned experts will do their best to block and sabotage the agreements (watch CNN and MSNBC, read Wapo and NYT), but their actions will only demonstrate how empty and morally bankrupt they are.
The left cannot permit a Trump success on this issue, no matter the benefit for the world.
Only Obaminski can be permitted the pedigree of Nobel Peace Prize Winner (Seinfeld edition-about nothing).
But, this would be for something. I can already hear them gnashing of DeMarxist teeth, presaging ideological seizures.
Are they praying? “Marx, Lenin, Castro, why have you forsaken me?” Maxine hopes to impeach before treaty ratification.
How CNN/fake news hides this so far amazing story, plus the upcoming Demendocracy perp walks, will be stunning.
Not to mention, highly enjoyable and validating of the true motives of the hard left DeMarxists, where JFK would today be regarded as an alt-right wacko “extremist,” aka moderate.
Oh, of course, Obama is responsible for this, also increased consumer and business confidence, and disproving apologizing to murderous dictators brings them to the table. Remember everything bad that happened during Obama’s presidency is the previous administration’s fault, and everything good happening right now is because of his past administration.
It makes perfect sense if you don’t think about it.
For the people who claim this is a “nothing burger” here’s a Washington Post article dated January 25:
“The Doomsday Clock is now just 2 minutes to ‘midnight,’ the symbolic hour of the apocalypse”
What was that fuss all about?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/01/25/after-a-missile-scare-and-insult-war-with-north-korea-its-time-to-check-the-doomsday-clock/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e82d23d9a365
The only way for the Korean War to finally end is for there to be regime change and the new, non-communist leader of North Korea to agree to peace terms (that would really blow the leftist Moon’s mind).
I know that everyone keeps seeing this as a win but North Korea and its Chinese backer have played people before.
There is more than one way to skin a cat, or a regime.
Take away Kim Jong Un’s missiles and nuclear weapons, and North Korea is no longer a threat to the world. They will be a regional annoyance, and a manageable threat. If there is a coup, or a North Korean Civil War, we can let it play out, or possibly even intervene on the “good guys side,” as if there is any such thing in North Korea. Or we can just let NK fester, like we have for the last sixty years and ten Presidents.
How do you think North Korea was able to survive as long as it has?
Even if it gave up whatever nukes it has now, China will just help it later on.
The beginnings of when they cry peace, peace…
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Coordinating policies with China, one big confederation (Korea just being the beginning)…and Russia will have no choice but to go along.
“Hey, I’m a nationalist and a globalist,” Trump told the Wall Street Journal on Thursday. “I’m both.”
“And I’m the only one who makes the decision, believe me,” Trump said.
FROM CHAPTER SIX, page 231, of World Order by Henry Kissinger:
TOWARD AN ASIAN ORDER: CONFRONTATION OR PARTNERSHIP?
“For the Pyongyang regime, abandoning nuclear weapons may well involve political disintegration. But abandonment is precisely what the United States and China have publicly demanded in the UN resolutions that they have fostered- The two countries need to coordinate their policies for the contingency that their stated objectives are realized. WILL IT BE POSSIBLE TO MERGE THE CONCERNS AND GOALS OF THE TWO SIDES OVER KOREA? ARE CHINA AND THE UNITED STATES ABLE TO WORK OUT A COLLABORATIVE STRATEGY FOR A DENUCLEARIZED, UNIFIED KOREA THAT LEAVES ALL PARTIES MORE SECURE AND MORE FREE? IT WOULD BE A BIG STEP TOWARD THE “NEW TYPE OF GREAT-POWER RELATIONS” SO OFTEN INVOKED AND SO SLOW IN EMERGING.”
How many years … how much money … how many concessions … how many pronouncements … how many task forces … how many diplomatic missions … have we heard from the feckless diplomats, pussy-whipped politicians and appeasers who assured US they had just architctected THE solution of the Nork threat.
And then … a REAL man. A real negotiator spends mere months FIXING the problem … by brute force. Tough talk and punishing sanctions.
Our “elites” are frauds. Dangerous frauds
And then … a REAL man. A real negotiator spends mere months FIXING the problem …
Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
Jer 17:6 For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.
We can sit on thumbs like in the past, or….
DJT and the US military got Norks to capitulate, along with sinking an Iranian tanker bound for Nork, and just maybe the numbnits screwed up their own nuke tests.
JT is better sitting on thumb and doing nothing till 2019.
I wish I could lay claim to this as original material, or at least remember to whom to give the credit:
“It’s wonderful at last to have a President who has balls, and a First Lady who doesn’t!”
You heard it here first: “Kim Jong-Un Wins Nobel Peace Prize”.
Others in the running: China’s Xi and S. Korean President, Moon Jae-in.
It was a difficult choice…………
Let us see now.
So NK is playing nice.
Obviously, so far the credit goes to Pres. Trump.
You may notice in the comments that the socialist extremists are not handling it well.
One guy sez that the President put pressure on China and Russia. And what?
This is called fracturation ™, this is what the socialist do, they fracture the accomplishments of others into little bitty pieces so as to show that there is nothing to look at.
Looks good on Trump though there is nothing at this moment that is agreed upon.
Hold on and see how it plays out.
The Altering of the Deal
https://southfront.org/the-dprk-declares-itself-a-nuclear-power/
THE DPRK DECLARES ITSELF A NUCLEAR POWER
Originally appeared on thesaker.is
Note by the Saker: please read carefully what this official statement says. There are two key elements here, first, the DPRK has successfully completed its program of nuclear tests and ballistic missiles test and, second, the DPRK will now act as a responsible nuclear power and never use its nuclear power unless she is attacked. In plain English this simply means: we made it, you could not stop us, now we are a nuclear power on par with all the rest of them and there is nothing you can do about it. No doubt, the Hegemony’s propaganda machine will present that as a huge, immense, victory for Trump. In reality, it is anything but. Truth be told, I personally doubt that the DPRK has a real nuclear warhead or anything beyond an intermediate-range missile. But that is neither here nor there because whatever the facts of the matter really are, the fact that they themselves declare that they have real nuclear warheads and ICBMs and that nobody can do anything about it means that they have won. Besides, you can’t prove a negative anyway. So whether these capabilities are real or not, the status of nuclear power claimed by the DPRK will have to be granted to them. Thus, “Rocket Man” wins! The Donald lost this one.
Strad, I’m glad you posted this noxious crap from Saker, whoever or whatever he is. It’s so riddled with absurdity it’s a wonder anyone can take it seriously.
“Besides, you can’t prove a negative anyway.”
NK has asserted a positive, that it has a nuclear weapons force. The evidence against that is the massive collapse of their testing facility along with hundreds of their personnel.
“that nobody can do anything about it means that they have won”
Of course things could be done about it. The US demonstrated this twice in the past 10 months in Syria. Worse for NK, they did it despite Russian presence on the ground in Syria. Worse still for Kim, they didn’t need to use nuclear weapons. They had and used far more effective and precise conventional weaponry.
” I personally doubt that the DPRK has a real nuclear warhead…”
No one cares what your opinion is, Saker. All you’re showing here is that you’re just another victim of postmodernism. What you know of military affairs could be written on a postage stamp in four-inch block letters.
“they themselves declare that they have real nuclear warheads and ICBMs”
Declaring that one is something or other doesn’t make it so (more postmodernist crap from this idiot). NK knew as well as anyone that they had to demonstrate such a capability to be taken seriously. Well, the result of their program has been a catastrophic physical collapse of their facilities. What is astonishing to me is that the American Left is so detached from reality as to take this stuff seriously. Fact is, the policies they have been advocating for the past half-century failed utterly, and the current regime headed by Trump has brought NK to the brink of collapse in less than a year.
Yeah, probably has more to do with Kim’s recent visit to China…confederation with China, and ultimately Russia, is the goal. NK is just a means to an end. Trump is a globalist, said so himself.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-27/kim-jong-un-returns-to-north-korea-after-meeting-xi-in-china
Read on another website (which for the life of me, I can’t remember at the moment) that if Trump achieves any measure of success in these peace negotiations, the 9th Circuit Court will rule that the Korean War must continue.
It’s adorable watching you idiots suspend all skepticism so you can hand Donald Trump another ‘gold star sticker’ “victory”.
It’s even better watching you trying to deny the obvious.
The obvious what? That DT got a ‘deal’ with NK just like Carter and Clinton did? Yay have a gold star.
Except it’s not Groundhog day with Kim in South Korea, crying uncle. You cheering for failure says it all.
What says it all is people’s investment in a man being their savior…
Jer 17:5 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
The judge in 9th Circuit have issue a ruling blocking this peace effort. The war must continue.
No, I didn’t come up with that one.
During the Second World War the US/UK insisted that the war would end if Germany agrees to unconditional surrender which would be followed by regime change and war crimes trials.
Let’s give the same deal to the Norks.
Double standards — twice as good.