44 Replies to “Dead Rose Country”

  5. I can see the end of the secret ballot now.
    “Who voted for Rachel Notely?”
    “Not me.”
    “Well, someone did, we have to figure out who. We have to find a way to punish of reward people for the policies they voted for.”
    “If you voted for carbon tax, you should be the first in line.”
    “If you vote against tax cuts, your tac=xes get to stay the same.”
    It is the same with all politicians. No one ever admits voting for them, and they pass national energy programs, wage and price controls (which is what a carbon tax is, a price control). What did you think minimum wage laws were?

  6. Why am I laughing? I mean, I just can’t stop laughing.
    A 67.5% carbon tax in a province with no provincial tax. Go Alberta! Home of the NDP government that wants pipelines to export their oil out into a world they claim is dying of fossil fuel poisoning. If this was a book, no one would buy the ridiculous plot line.

  7. I think that the carbon tax will turn out to be the most counterproductive move the left and environmentalists could have made. People who pay their own bills will hate it and vote accordingly.
    The cruel irony is that even if people could reduce their use of natgas to heat their home and reduce electricity that is needed for cooking and light – it won’t reduce their bills for very long. Why? Energy companies will increase their rates as consumption decreases to maintain profits. Governments will become addicted to the new sin tax, like they have with alcohol, and increase the tax if revenues drop. Since there’s a rock solid floor as to how much energy is required to live and work in an extremely cold climate, the energy companies and the government have a captive consumer that they can exploit indefinitely while congratulating themselves for “saving the world!!”. A spiral of higher energy poverty, lost jobs and a lower standard of living are the most likely scenario.

  8. “…If this was a book, no one would buy the ridiculous plot line.”
    That’s the problem with reality, it’s never as good as fiction.

  9. “What was the other $100 for?”
    They split up bills to hide what costs really are. The $100 bucks would be delivery and administration charges.
    I pay $.06 per kw hour for electricity. I paid assorted other fixed and variable charges on my last bill amounting to $.066. I really paid $.1266 per kw hour.

  10. To me, the carbon pricing/carbon reduction policies reek of callous indifference towards working people so that the chattering class can selfishly virtue signal to their peers. Some have admitted it’s purely symbolic but it’s brutally expensive, and painfully unproductive, symbolism.
    Just once I’d like someone to ask what the projected, cumulative cost in dollars of these policies in 10, 25, 50, 100 years? What are the projected temperature benefits, in degrees Celsius, over 10, 25, 50, 100 years? Show your math. From my reading the costs are in the billions of dollars while the benefits are a tiny fraction a degree Celsius in temperature mitigation. The cost/benefit ration is so awful that adaptation and technology (nuclear, hydrates, new tech) would not only be more cost efficient but fairer. Ten of billions of dollars buys a lot of CO2-free energy, for instance.
    Note: Anyone who says it’ll be revenue neutral or used to lower other taxes is incredibly naive or deliberately deceiving the public.

  11. Agreed LC. I’ve wondered for a long time how many libertarians the country would actually have if one’s tax rate (and allowable benefits) were linked the to party one voted for.
    Libertarian rates would be based on basic roads & transport and the military, and pay-as-you-go at the hospital.

  12. another political suicide by “good intentions”.
    When our parasitic overlords come to believe they can tax the stuff of life,while making living in a cold climate near impossible, I must conclude they do not fear the taxpayer enough.
    This out of control kleptocracy must be punished.
    Remember,Do not steal,your government hates competition.

  13. As a libertarian, I also don’t have a problem paying for shared costs of basic services. I support reasonably priced welfare for the poor because no one will tolerate abject poverty, especially of the very young or old, in a wealthy, civilized society – but I’d prefer direct payments to the poor instead of the existing welfare industry. It’s the corporate welfare and the subsidies to everyone from profs studing intersectional botany to the media to welfare queens like Bombardier and the army of bureaucrats and public employees to administer the largess that’s the real waste of tax dollars. Other waste – most foreign aid, international agencies, equalization, technology clusters, development agencies…
    We’re told that every tax cut kills widows and orphans but no one mentions the crony capitalists and rent seekers who should be the real targets of cuts.

  14. *
    “reasonably priced welfare for the poor”
    you mean the 12 billion dollars per year that gets sh@t down
    the aboriginal reservation toilet each year… or the one billion
    dollar subsidy to the cbc… aka the justin network?
    *

  15. Yes , but look at the effectiveness of the “social license” that the carbon tax payed for, especially next door where the watermelon alliance rules.

  17. I think the dollar amount, whatever that number is, would be significantly reduced with direct payments to recipients instead of being filtered through too many government fingers and paying too many public union wages. Id certainly like to see aboriginals get their money directly because it would force band leaders to tax it like all other levels of government. I think aboriginals would then be in a better position to reduce corruption of band chiefs since they could start a tax revolt if transparency was refused.
    Like I said, I have less problems with helping the poor than corporate welfare queens. Lots more unnecessary spending of tax dollars at the top with corporations, higher ed industry, unproductive foreign aid industry and other high-end cling-ons before even considering cutting income supports for the poor.

  18. My first PG&E bill for 2018 was $ 370.00 (American) for gas and electric. For my little 2-story, 2,900 sq. ft. house. My NEST thermostat is permanently set to 65deg. We wear sweaters indoors … just like Jimmy Carter said we have to … because I “shouldn’t be warmer than a homeless person”. All the carbon taxes and whatnot are buried in the rates (constantly increasing) allowed by the PUC (a PUC who,is supposed to be protecting the CONSUMER). What do my high rates pay for? New power plants? Nope. Instead, my electric and gas bills pay for an army of PG&E Employees who “teach” green energy practices. My bill pays for a massively expensive PR campaign to convince the public that PG&E aren’t incompetent for burning-down a neighborhood in Silicon Valley. My bill pays rich people’s subsidies for putting solar panels on their homes. My bill pays Nancy Pelosi’s relatives who are building nonsensical solar salt pillars in the CA desert. My bills pay for anything and everything EXCEPT delivering cheap, plentiful, gas and electric to my home. Oh well, I guess all those “Environmental studies” graduates have to work somewhere … I guess I should feel good for providing their workfare jobs. Otherwise, they’d be on welfare.

  19. Oh well, any day now angry Albertans will mount a massive protest and bring Edmonton to a complete stop for as long as it takes.
    Right?

  20. Take note ontario, coming to a meter soon near you.
    We already pay 10cents more on gas & diesel at the pumps for the sake
    Of enviro/carbon/tree hugging.
    With no accountability on the monies taken in whats so ever as to where in california they go.

  21. Took a look at our bill:
    Admin fee – fixed 8.22
    cost of gas – variable 49.82
    gst on those items 2.90
    That totals $60.94
    Then we have:
    delivery charge – fixed 27.16
    delivery charge – var 18.07
    rate riders 20.17
    minicipal franchise fee 12.86
    Carbon levy 25.01
    GST on that batch 5.19
    Total is $169.97 of which the actual natural gas is only 29%.

  23. Will we witness Canadians tapping into public lines as in the African countries, because of poverty?.. I suspect we will. If we allow 1 million Somalis into the country in 3 years. many with expensive health problems. We will become impoverished with out a doubt. Where are these favoured Canadians going to live..Homes foe 4 will mean 250,000 new homes. That is impossible.. we are in real trouble. Some one with the power must rein in this monster .

  25. In an earlier era this level of wretched abuse by a government would have resulted in about 5,000 VERY ANGRY, VERY WELL ARMED ranchers / oil rig roughnecks / cowboys / semi-rig owners / heavy equipment owners & operators descending on the AB legislature to surround it and keep ALL the elected pompous, gutless gasbags inside until the carbon tax was repealed. Alas, after at least 2 generations of pussified socialist edumafication I doubt there are 5,000 men left in AB with fully functioning pairs of ‘danglies’ to confront their political masters. We’re doomed.

  27. stupidity from the left you say. Just go back to some of the posts on various threads in here. The $16 glass of OJ purchased by Oda time a million, and you are starting to talk waste. Throw in the ineffective government ‘work” forces and I’ll guess that through expenses and poor work ethics, 50% of government $$$$ is pi$$ed away. So we all tend to turn a blind eye to some waist for political expediency:-))
    Throw in that Duffy was found nor guilty because he was “doing business as usual” for government waist!!

  28. at least it’s visible where you are. the ontario energy board decided that it’s best to be hidden.

  29. “How to escape the stupidity of the left in this country? May not be possible.”
    Possible? Definitely!
    Probable? Not at all.
    After all, Canadians, according to the official and unquestioned narrative, are “polite, non-confrontational,and accommodating”. In plain English, everybody pisses and whimpers, but ultimately takes it where the sun don’t shine.
    Canada: old Seneca word meaning “land of crying papoose”.

  30. Progressive Conservative assholes voted NDP because it was the next best thing to their red tory assholes.

  31. “Throw in that Duffy was found nor guilty because he was “doing business as usual” for government waist!!”
    Duffy was found not guilty because the rules he broke didn’t exist when he was accused of breaking them.

  32. Well to be fair, the stuff doesn’t just appear at the burner tip by some wave of a wand and it must be paid for. Actually, splitting up the cost of the fuel and the cost of delivery of the fuel is the right way to go…..but when you look at the total cost, what is clear is that the government has its hand DEEP into our pockets for something that is an absolute necessity.

  33. I said when Alberta voted in Marxist socialists it was the day our soul died. It was the end of freedsom here, so far its proven exactly like i said. Thanks Calgary, virtue signal doing you okay these days?

  34. scar, how astute of you, that was/is my exact point. BUSINESS AS USUAL, get it?????
    good god some people are slow as h3ll!!!!!

  35. “Horrible. How to escape the stupidity of the left in this country? May not be possible.”
    We are all entitled to a free lunch, even if it eventually will be only black bread, cabbage and potatoes.
    Travis, exactly.

  36. Have you noticed behind the twitter thing there is a chart from The Sunday Times, general harbacks bestsellers, Jordan Peterson’s “12 Rules for Life” is at no. 1 spot.

  38. “bring Edmonton to a complete stop for as long as it takes”
    Bring Edmonton to a complete stop? I live there and I don’t think think that anybody would notice if that happened.

  39. “Oh, just vote them out”. This is why real countries have this thing called “second amendment”. Post national geographic places? Well…

  40. and every moron in the country will just pay it and eat the s h i t that is shoveled their way. How about a few hundred thousand people refuse to pay. if the gas company shuts down your gas then we shut down the gas company. what the hell is wrong with Canadians?

  41. And $77 of $235 means only 33% of your total heating bill was “the product” …. (77/235)
    So If you turn your heat down to save 10%, that’s a $7.70 saving that can be realized (not $23.50)

  42. ah jeez kenji, the mandarins are just priming you to BE homeless. isnt that nice of them?
    also, does this mean Im gonna get taxed for the carbon in the cells of my ugly fcukin’ cranky oldtimer bod? you know, the ‘carbon based life’ thingy?

  43. Your payments to PG&E also pay for them to finance companies that build wind turbines in Alberta due to the REC. Alberta gets the power from those wind turbines financed by PG&E customers.

  44. I would like to thank you for being a PG&E customer and helping PG&E finance companies in Alberta that have built wind farms here. Alberta gets that renewable power from wind turbines financed by PG&E customers and without that subsidy the wind turbines would never get built. All due to the California REC requirement.

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