What a waste of bandwidth.
The British navy’s newest and most expensive aircraft carrier needs repairs after a faulty shaft seal was identified during sea trials.
Imagine that, sea-trials find issues on brand new class. Shocking, I tell you, shocking. A 200l/hr leak. 200 litres. That ain’t the Titanic tear, more like a drip in the sink.
Well, it was built by the lowest bidder, who promised the highest kickbacks for the politicians (who won’t have to serve in it).
– and finding things like that is why they do sea trials.
If that’s the only thing found during trials, then the ship was very well built indeed.
Janet, grow up. Do I have to remind you about the HMS Prince of Wales in 1941 which sailed on a COMBAT mission against the Bismarck and its main guns didn’t work?
The main guns worked. One malfunctioned after firing once, leaving 9 working as they engaged the Bismarck. Two more guns failed after 14 salvos. Prince of Wales disengaged after firing 18 salvos.
Great looking ship. Hopefully she is always ready but never has to do serious work.
cgh, well said first two sentences, but sounds like pete has read one of the books about Battleship Bismarck lately. I haven’t read mine for about thirty years.
The comments in the NP article are interesting. Are the seals lubricated by sea water or not?
This doesn’t sound all that bad, they’ll probably keep the ship and fix it. If they offer to sell it to Canada then we’ll know that the damage is severe and irreparable.
My Land Rover Discovery II sunroofs leak like sieves… horrible design and execution. I am guessing that the Brits idea of a “good seal” is a thatch roof. Geeze. Can’t even design a decent seal on a LUXURY SUV. I suppose it could be worse, and I could own an MGB or Jaguar with dual carburetors that are impossible to synchronize and tune up.
Prince of Wales was sunk off the coast of Malaya when the Japanese attacked that part of SE Asia in early December 1941.
For perspective 200/hr is roughly equivalent to 1 toilet flap malfunctioning.
Captcha is WANTED TUCKER
What did the bow tie guy do?
I piss more than that on a good Saturday night at the pub. Pretty sure she won’t sink.
The Bismarck was sunk in May/41 with Prince of Wales one of the ships who engaged her.
Sadly, she was lost with the Repulse in Dec/41 because of a fatal decision to send them into harms way without air cover.
Then again war makes one take chances.
Our fool on the hill doesn’t care as he does a Chretien II with an idiotic purchase of used Aussi F18s to justify not buying the best available fighter, inventing a capability gap with an unprecedented & unnecessary requirement NORAD and NATO missions be conducted simultaneously.
Never happened, never will, no other ally has that requirement.
Kind of like the Grits balancing a budget or actually giving a crap about the capability and safety of our military.
The guns didn’t work when she put to sea. There was a civilian crew on board specifically for the purpose of getting them working.
So, 200 liters in a ship that size would be like, let’s say, one one-thousandth of a drop of water in the bottom of my canoe.
I have a pump on my fish-pond that could drain 200 liters in under 15 minutes. I’ll loan it to them if they want
And furthermore, Canada’s submarines let in more water than that…and they’re in dry-dock.
CGH, your comment, “grow up” is juvenile and therefore self-refuting.
If you have a relevant historical reference, simply share it. Your comment beginning, “Do I have to remind you…” begins with a needless veneer of arrogance. It could have been interesting if you had managed to complete the thought with some details for the readers here. You seem to have a particular interest and expertise in history.
No one disputes that new vehicles such as aircraft and ships, once built, require a shakedown period to discover and fix the glitches. They are designed and assembled by fallible humans, after all.
But no one here is so naive as to be unaware that politicians invariably assign the unshowy details of construction contracts to the lowest bidders, after comfortable processes of schmoozing, back-room finagling, and kick-backs.
When astronauts John Glenn and Alan Shepherd were asked how they felt about sitting on top of a rocket to launch into orbit, they usually joked, “Well, how do you think it feels when your life depends on 150,000 parts borrowed from the lowest bidder?” and “I just kept looking around at all those dozens of instruments in front of me and reminding myself that every one was supplied by the lowest bidder.”
No, they’re all in service.
Only Victoria is in dock for major maintenance after six years in operation.
http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/en/news-operations/news-media-submarine-fleet-status.page
That’s a serious leak for where it is – certainly something that will require repair – I’m guessing in dry dock which is a very big and expensive deal.
Yep! Right in my favorite boating term … the Packing Gland … the Stuffing Box.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuffing_box
A water skiing friend of mine (when I was a kid) told me that his ski boat was not working because it needed a “packing gland” repair. I thought he was just bullshi++ing me … making up some nonsensical “mechanics” terminology … then I learned exactly what it was. A rather essential, and uniquely nautical shaft problem … if your gland happens to lose it’s packing.
Almost 100% of rotary pumps used to have a ‘packing gland’ which required somewhat regular replacement of the packing. Then someone invented the mechanical seal – 10x as expensive but if installed correctly and your alignment was good, would last for years.
yes Bord Bulk, yap about things you ain’t gots a klue about, that is one of your strong points. Now if I was given a chance, I could possibly effect (design) a repair that is quick, effective and not all that expensive. Doing things like that was/is my strong suit, and then I even don’t yap off about it.
Here are two names to google if you have some time: “HMCS Magnificent” and “HMCS Bonaventure”.
When you look at the hollowed-out husk that the modern RCN represents, it’s hard to believe our country ever possessed such capabilities.
ah, those preliminary tryouts and the media wetting their pants when some sort of thingamajig leaks or breaks or doesnt move properly; reminds me of the initial introduction of the Abrams tank and the hoopla when certain functions were not 100% the very first time.
no links, this was a loooooong time ago.
“Waste of bandwidth”= a nothing burger. Any commercial plumber (me, for example) would say, “there’s a reason we test this shit”… I’ve never seen any building go up without multiple incidences.
200 litres/hour (1 standard oil barrel used to be 205?) on the bottom of a building isn’t enough to stop the normal work flow. This on a ship seems to be in a “delicate spot” though I doubt a return to dry dock is required for every ship’s leak.
Makes the news though. Far more highbrow than reporting which demographic is responsible for the latest crime stats.
Also, directed at the National Post, It’s “troubling” that they’ve gone straight from a solid year of ridicule and pointing a finger at President Trump and his media perceived failings, to warning how Canada is going to suffer at President Trump’s new tax proposals and business success.
That’s what happens when your editorial zealotry blinds you from what is actually known as success.
200 hundred liters of water in the hull of a ship that size would go unnoticed.
The bilge automatic pumps would not start with a 50 US gallon per hour leak.
As for the Bismark, enjoy!!
https://youtu.be/8O2XHr8YaKE
Corrected:
200 hundred liters of water in the hull of a ship that size would go unnoticed.
The automatic bilge pumps would not start with a 50 US gallon per hour leak.
As for the Bismark, enjoy!!
https://youtu.be/8O2XHr8YaKE
Oh no! Britain has defective subs? I think Canada should pay them a ton of money and take them off of their hands………