Eventually, common sense will come back with a vengeance amid homilies about lessons learned.
Both pending bylaws claim to make exceptions for lengthy power outages, but the broader implication of these policies is clear. They will remove from existence the vast majority of legacy fireplaces and wood stoves and, given a hefty application of red tape, strongly discourage all new installations. The Vancouver proposal actually contemplates an annual fireplace registration renewal process, like a driver’s licence.
Not just a cult, a death-cult.
As witnessed today in Victoria up to Nanaimo.
If you live in Vancouver and own a house you have to go to city hall to register that you live there. No word yet on whether they will tattoo a number of your arm for identification.
VANCOUVER used to be a “no fun” city.Now its turning into a shithole.
It’s insanity.
No natural gas, no woodburning, no hydro-electric and of course no coal-fired electricity.
I once had to explain to a Victorian that most of Canada gets really cold winters and she said, ‘nobody needs to live up there.’
Unbelievable is the new normal.
There are these little things known as “camp stoves”. They can be broken down and stored, then assembled when needed. Combine that with a stove jack and pipe that will fit in a window and your blackout needs could be met quite comfortably. You could buy one from a camping shop or build one – there are plans online.
And everyone living east of BC should give that Victorian an earful, Warren.
Voting for suicide, either has consequences, or it does not.
Don’t forget what the Club of Rome said some 50 years ago, namely that the earth has a cancer and that cancer is man. It’s just another move by the left in is desire to depopulate the world.
fireplaces stand for the patriarchy inside matriarchal dwellings
Here in N.California … we get to OBEY “no burn days” … which ALWAYS fall on Thanksgiving, Christmas Day, New Years Day … anytime when family gathers to enjoy each others company over a crackling fire. And the policing is done by … your neighbors … who turn you in to the Air Quality Board “Sniffers” who will come out to your home and CITE you for ILLEGAL burning. Yep … your neighbors point their bony fingers at you and scream …!!Criminal!!
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Most local Building Departments have BANNED wood-burning fireplaces. The ordinance requires that fireplaces emit no more than a very small amount of hydrocarbons that can ONLY be met by natural gas burning … FAKE … fireplaces. With the one EXCEPTION given to a Traditional masonry-built “Rumford” fireplace. The theory being that a “Rumford” fireplace design naturally burns hotter and cleaner. Yeah … maybe. It was really just a nod to the UNION Masons who fought the outright elimination of their fireplace work. So now … all my friends and I have elaborate OUTDOOR firepits where we incinerate anything and everything we want … on cool spring nights … while sipping Single Malt scotch and shooting the sh*+
Gives new meaning to the term “Smoke Police.”APACHES
nanaimo. that’s coastal indian for ‘where the fcuk did all this snow come from?’
friggin west coasters. jeezuz murphy. there’s a saying along the lines that californicate (and by extension BC, specifically vancouver) sets the tone for the rest of the nation, as per vehicle emissions, really stoooopid laws, etc.
leftism. migawd, the older I get the more evident leftism is a cult, populated by the wilfully ignorant naive ‘utopianists’ dreaming of a complete socialist state where everything is provided by the state.
it makes no sense to rational people, goes against physical laws and common sense but hey, ‘people believe what they WANT to believe’. I sent a 2nd email to ms naomi kline regarding her silence on goings on down in her fav socialist state on the north east corner of s america. total silence still. whatever could it all mean ????
Make no mistake; just as big government hates oil and gas furnaces and nuclear and gas generated electricity, wood stoves are on the list, when they get round to it. In Ont Despite what Wynne claims, the apparatchiks in the energy bureau have their eye on all those rural heating stoves.
One reason to hate them is the lack of taxes collected on wood, very little sales tax and of course no carbon tax at all. Any government inspector sent around esquiring about heating source should be shown the door.
It will be tough to ban them especially in Eastern Ont where the 98 ice storm is still well remembered.
They can have my wood burning stove when they take it from my (quite literally) cold, dead hands. WIth a Captcha of Polizei Prive, no less.
Insurance companies seem to go nuts with wood stoves. What percent of claim dollars relate to wood stoves? Is it one or two percent? I grew up with wood heating. A red hot stove a foot and a half from a drywall wall didn’t cause fires back then. In the old days we had convection. Our wood heater was inches above a wood floor and didn’t start a fire..
A long time ago, living in Kern County on the eastern desert (sane) side of the Sierras, I asked the fire department about having a firepit and enjoying an outside fire in the evening. Against the law I was told, unless used for cooking. I was advised to keep a sacrificial hot-dog close so I wouldn’t be breaking “the law”.
Power is out at home. I have a fireplace, however, and lots of camp stoves, lanterns, and fuel. This City is helpless with only an inch of snow. I can’t wait to retire and get the hell away from here.
As I look out my window I can see the entirety of Nanaimo, completely covered in snow. I was scheduled to ring kettle bells for Sally Ann, but my assigned location – like much of Nanaimo and indeed, much of here to Victoria – was without power and hence, nobody to offer a donation. Instead, I shoveled probably a couple of tons of heavy, wet snow.
I just installed a brand new wood insert/chimney liner, as my old one was twenty five years old. I go through about three cords of wood annually. I usually cut about a cord from the property and purchase two more. Between our fireplace insert and a ‘mini-split’ heat pump, we NEVER turn on our baseboard heaters.
It’s unbelievable the impact these yokel city dwellers have on the rest of us. They want no wood, no gas, no dams, no pipelines, no mining (coal or otherwise) while demanding excellent health care, schools, welfare, free tuition and lots and lots of electric vehicles powered by gov’t subsidies.
Oh. It’s three in the afternoon and I do believe I hear the road plow finally arriving.
What these tyrants in places like Vancouver want to accomplish is their own little utopia in which they can have any kind of warmth or comfort they want but everyone else can take a long walk off a short pier.
We just have to give our money and/or labour to them until we break.
God damn metro hippies. I am so sick of their holier-than thou stupid pushy enviro cult bullshit. I hope they all burn in hell for making people miserable. Carbon footprint that MFs.
So they’re looking at a fireplace registry? Sure, why not? The long gun registry proved to be such a success. Stupidity is endemic.
Your attitudes have been noticed, comrades.
When we have the next Vancouver city election get out and raise this topic at the candidates meetings.
Had to get rid of my wood burning fireplace about 15 years ago. My insurance company sent an agent around at my annual renewal and I was informed then that, should I decide to keep the fireplace, my house insurance rates would double. I have two gas fireplaces now. Not quite the same ambiance but okay.
Bingo! You NAILED it! I noticed that all our local “no burn” ordinances kicked in right after PG&E had a sharp (multi-tiered) rate increase … and people started burning to offset their outrageous PG&E bills
Well, here in my little burg just outside of Whacktoria, the snow came as a pleasant surprise today….I gave up wood heating when we moved here partially for career reasons and convenience. Chose central gas heating and added a heat pump 9 years ago. Still there’s nothing like an airtight that’s nice and hot.
Oh, and if I want to add a fireplace to my castle? No, No, No, you heathen. Never!
I’m sure that all our rural friends will never face the outright ban, but if you live in a city like here, yes, they’re coming for you. I’m sure the condo and apartment dwellers don’t mind a ban.
And if there’s a power outage, those gas inserts still provide some heat. Mine does.
We’ve been lucky here, power outages are very very rare, with underground services. Been there done that before in Nanaimo where the power always goes out, but the wood was there to stay cozy.
Not allowed to use a fireplace?
Let them watch Internet fireplace
Your power is out too? Sorry.
Couple ideas for a song.
My rifle, my fireplace and me.
Imagine, there are no services.
It is time for the City State to rise again.
As big cities seem to attract the most gullible people who relentlessly support the robbing of others to support their ease, once a city reaches population level X, it shall become a province/State in its own right.
This will free the surrounding regions of the fools and bandits ruling over them supported by the city vote and limit the ability to steal by the city kleptocrats to a much smaller area.
For Vancouver,Edmonton and Toronto all seem to be home to the entitled parasitic loon.
I argue that represented in national government as a province, they would be less damaging to their current fellow citizens.
Of course I am good with doing nothing, under current practises and policies, these cities will burn soon enough.
Perhaps there should be a few more running shoes washing up on the beaches around Hongcouver or Whacktoria in the near future.
Those guys are truly nuts!
we need a real big fire. captcha……………wick military
Hope the bastards freeze in the dark.
Hope the bastards freeze in the dark.
Vote for stupid people, win stupid governments.
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time for a t-shirt campaign…
“you can have my woodstove, when you
pry it… from my cold, dead hands…”
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