The effective veterans campaign against PM Harper promised to hold Trudeau to account.
The result of their efforts.
Won the battle, lost the war. Many old enough to remember Trudeau the first, unification, and the lowest morale ever.
Idiots.
The effective veterans campaign against PM Harper promised to hold Trudeau to account.
The result of their efforts.
Won the battle, lost the war. Many old enough to remember Trudeau the first, unification, and the lowest morale ever.
Idiots.
Vets are like most citizens living in duress. They are willing to listen to promises. The idea that politicos make promises then do not come through is not unusual, should be expected. If there is no philosophy underpinning the political promises then it is open season on the victims.
Quebec takes +/- 64% of all Equalization payments with 24% of the countries population. This should be no mystery to any Canadian yet this process continues. No demonstrations about this robbery?
soooo in other words, harper DID crap on veterans.
feel free to review my prior postings on this topic.
the fact turdeux and the lieberals *also* crap on veterans and have since at least macenzie-king
is a related but SEPARATE issue.
“they all do it”. indeed.
The manner in which the federal gov’t of Canada treats its vets, and underfunds by at least 1/2 the amount that Canada agreed to spend within NATO, should be made clear and upfront to anyone considering signing their life on the dotted line with the military.
And also, the basis for President Trump saying the USA wouldn’t necessarily defend Canada.
I would say these veterans have had their “never again” moment.
I did 17 years in uniform. When someone asks me about it with respect to their joining or would I recommend service to someone else, I always without hesitation tell them not to join as the government does not have your back.
They stir the pot of patriotism at Remembrance Day and during election cycles then revert to treating you like garbage once those days are past. We live in a country where the government fights a court action against reinstating pensions that they promised to reinstate while at the same time paying millions to ‘reintegrate’ the very people we were at war with.
Fk them, every last one of them.
Screw veterans. They expected the same government(s) that gave us the 60s scoop, residential schools, 2 and 3 times daily spikes and drops from Saskpower, the crow rate in perpetuity (but refuse to evict railway yards), 10 point 5 for Omar, … to treat them better?
They should unionize.
Stupid is as stupid does.
*
whose side is pm selfie on, anyway?
“In Justin’s post-national state… the terrorists
will apparently arrest themselves.”
*
Just in thinking again; Trudeauce’s I won’t be like My Mother’s Husband and Lie. What is the Canadian Party which tells Trudeuce what Lie is the Talking Point for Today? Oh Yeah it’s the Liberal (proven) Corrupt Liberal Party.
Vets deserve whatever they get believing that a French Canadian Liberal will do anything that could ever be good for the military or veterans. Anyone that stupid deserves to be snacking on dog food on disability. I also believe that veterans do way too much effing whining. The military is a job and not normally all that dangerous. The military does not even produce much of an excess of head cases. Professionals are just as likely to go nuts and there is essentially no treatment for crazy civilians unless they decapitate someone.
If you haven’t caught on yet that Liberals are anti-military to their very core then I’d say you’ve learned absolutely nothing or you refuse to.
And nothing disappointed me more when vets openly campaigned against Harper. Now? Well now I have nothing. I should have sympathy…but I don’t.
Good luck.
the anti harper campaign grew out of frustration and some desperation plus, wait for it, the FACT harper chose for his own reasons to CRAP on the veterans, using a successful legal arguement that a ‘promise’ made by Borden in 1917 +/- was insufficient grounds to comply, when in fact he very well could have been SUPPORTING these and all future vets by agreeing to preserve the benefits esp for the WOUNDED vets.
“they all do it”.
in the end, the vets pretty much had ye olde ‘nothing to lose’. the fact it failed was celebrated by an SDA poster in response to my posting a week or 2 ago on this exact topic. ie support harper-the-bully on *ideological* grounds, NOT what vets are due.
I think ‘scar’ is mr harper himself.
“Veterans Affairs Minister Seamus O’Regan (St. John’s South-Mount Pearl, N.L.) did not respond to a request for comment by deadline.”
Yeah, it sounds like meeting deadlines is a real problem for him.
I was in the militia in the mid 1970’s. I saw first hand what Trudeau was all about. I even saw the guy in person once, during the Queen’s visit. He was the same height as Queen Elizabeth. She’d be about 5’2″, came up to my collar bone. That told me a lot about him and his character. Short man syndrome.
That one year in the Weekend Warriors was all it took to convince me that the Canadian Military is not a great place to be. They will fold, spindle and mutilate anybody who signs up for duty, use them up and spit them out. Veterans get kicked to the curb.
People in the services know all this, of course. Its not a mystery why everything you need to keep you alive is an antique held together with duct tape and prayer, or simply missing altogether. The leadership flat-out don’t care. The money goes to the bureaucracy, because that is what’s important.
Liberals (and Conservatives) view soldiers as mannequins. Their job is to stand still in the background of Party photo ops and be honor guard at formal events. That’s it. Everything else, the Americans will do it.
doesn’t matter what side you are on in the they do/do not deserve argument. The Libtards have pisse3d away so much money off shore that they can not claim there is no$$$$$. Time for governments, and some rectums in here, to get their priorities straight!!
Well, my dad was a veteran of WWII. He volunteered at the start of the war, was badly wounded in Normandy, spent 5 months in hospital and convalescence, then re-joined his regiment and fought through Holland and into Germany. He got a small disability pension, and never thought he was owed recognition or compensation.
And he NEVER voted for turdo la first. To him, and with one exception, all the other WWII vets that I knew, turdo was nothing but, “A yellow, *&^%$#g fruit.”
Like Albertans say: be careful what you wish for. The Liberals have long treated veterans and armed forces pitifully. Whereas Harper did quite well, to start with anyways. What is going on in senior levels of Defense, RCMP and Indian Affairs? Money is not trickling down and morale is a real problem.
So you thought Harper was bad when it was LIE BRALS that implemented this program Harper just rolled it out. Now we have a nitwit that blames the Cons for everything…NOT THEMSELVES…ARE WE STUPID CANADIANS!! How many MILLIONS OF DOLLARS has this LIE BRAL gov’t sent to the UN, third world countries, the CLINTON FOUNDATION for WHAT!!!! This money could have gone to the VET”S programs. This PM Sock Puppet of CHINA AND OTHERS HAS TO GO! VOTE THE LIE BRALS OUT IN 2019!!!
The Military is one of the very few areas where government should exist and in the deranged dominion its near the very bottom of government priorities. This is not news, its been the case since Pearson. After the Spawn’s Father, who destroyed the remnants of our post WW2 military culture, it should have been clear to anyone with a memory that the LPC was not going to change and Harper’s one term majority couldn’t or wouldn’t pull us out of that legacy hole.
Who gives a $hit. You get what you voted for.
Wasn’t Pierre Trudeau a zombie during WWII?
why would you have a gay alcoholic as veterans affairs minister
Curious, the last federal election, ridings with a military base, how did they vote?
I think I know the answer.
The same Seamus O’ Regan that excoriated Rob Ford for his addiction problems, then declared he has the same problem and even went to the same facility as Rob Ford did? That Seamus O’ Regan?
Hypocrites, all…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR42x1bJLwc
My father turned 96 on Dec.8th, a non-overseas vet of WWII. As he has dementia – though otherwise healthy – I’ve been tasked to look after his financial affairs, meagre as they may be.
I have to say that Veterans Affairs has been exemplary in all my dealings with them. I’ve never had trouble reaching his case worker, and my experience is that they take their responsibility seriously and do try to expedite needs requested of them.
Quite unlike my experiences with other government bureaucracies.
The single most humiliating and insulting ‘crap on our vets’ that has been accomplished was Trudeau’s award for Khadr.
I challenge you history buff to tell us anything that Harper did that compares to that.
Any screw up in the Harper days was bureaucracy and admin.
“Wasn’t Pierre Trudeau a zombie during WWII??”
Heh. And for the rest of his life.
The Government of Canada represents the people of Canada. Accurately.
Agreed; we have EXACTLY the government that we deserve. I want to go higher though, let’s get Bob Rae into the PM’s chair!
stupid people. history is not their strong suit. and harper did no such thing.
John, exactly.
Other comments below I agree with. All Liberal governments since that of Pearson have hated and denigrated the military.
“Vets deserve whatever they get believing that a French Canadian Liberal will do anything that could ever be good for the military or veterans.” scar, I agree.
“If you haven’t caught on yet that Liberals are anti-military to their very core then I’d say you’ve learned absolutely nothing or you refuse to.” Burton, I agree..
*
“Veterans Affairs Minister Seamus O’Regan (St. John’s South-Mount
Pearl, N.L.) did not respond…”
seamus has to take care of his rehab… he hasn’t got time for silly vets.
thank goodness pierre-lite has his back.
*
I never served in the military since I came of age at the height of PET (read J.L. Granatstein- Who Killed the Canadian Military?) However as a lifelong history buff I always had a lot of admiration for our people in uniform and in fact married one. In my observation most Canadian governments have treated our military folks very poorly and as we know PET was openly hostile too them. Therefore I was a bit puzzled when our military people threw their lot in with Justin, you know General Leslie and Canada’s badass defense minister. What did they anticipate and what did it get them?