19 Replies to “Tails wagging dogs”

  1. Elections do have consequences but the seismic testing ruling wasn’t so much one of them. That was handed down by the SC because of the ‘right to inform’ thingy for natives.

  2. I can’t grasp how seismic testing affects the environment. I’ve been abound it all my life and it’s pretty benign. Around here I don’t even think they use explosives although offshore they likely do. I suspect actually killing wildlife like the Eskimos might make a bigger impression on them than multiple single explosions spread over a wide area over time.

  3. And just who is it, who picks the people who sit on the SC? Why, the elected government of course. But don’t politicize the SC. Allowing politicians to pick the SC is completely non political, and it’s islamophobic of you to suggest otherwise. Or cisgengered. Or don’t smoke. Or something.

  4. The NDP always measure the economic impact to their Union membership, a narrow construct…The CBC had a bobble-head explain that they would fund multiple New Energy Projects…She did not explain where the Capital Money
    will come from.. Print..Print & join other failed marxist Nations…
    The Loss of the LG plant was a 11 Billion loss for Steel & infrastructure
    products for the Canadian economy.. That “was” Canadian wealth to many workers.. too complicated for the NDP
    The economic development, without Seismic Testing, is a no starter and the BC melon heads don’t want oil or gas. The shut down of all pipe lines in BC should be undertaken.. They get what they want

  5. I had a client … a Geologist professor at UC Berkeley who invented a (if not THE) method of seismic testing and analysis for Natural gas and oil. He did quite well with his invention. Quite well indeed. But I guess his method is under attack for shaking the bark huts of the indigenous peoples of the earth (well … Canada’s anyway).
    But I agree with the Inuit people. Their pristine wilderness should be clear-cut and filled with massive solar farms and/or wind farms. Just cover the entire forest. Because that would be g-r-e-e-n … and s-e-n-s-i-t-i-v-e … to the environment. No shaking of the ground at all … well except for the foundation blasting. And more clearcutting for the new transmission lines and distribution. And more clear-cutting for the Tesla battery farms necessary to store all that ‘FREE’ energy.
    Yep. That would save the environment. Let’s wipe-out the environment to save the environment. And THEN, the eco-“scientists” will ‘do well’ with their new propeller gear box designs … instead of all those dirty oil exploration scientists. Yep. That’s all the green movement is all about. Moving the greenbacks from one persons bank account to anothers. The “environment” is just an excuse for the redistribution of dollars (loonies).

  6. This reminds me of what happened when the Berger inquiry killed the Mackenzie Valley pipeline project 40 years ago. There was the usual blah-de-blah about “environment” and “native rights”, which sounded mighty suspicious to some people.
    Over the years, there were rumours that the project was deliberately delayed to that the native groups who claimed to be affected by it could get a larger piece of the action.

  7. Re; Slap Shot, Shut down all the pipe lines. I am surprised that they are not digging up all the pipe lines.

  9. Actually, the Inuit that got their “satisfaction” from the SCOC aren’t much different than “your” Eskimos at Prudhoe Bay who have obviously been made extinct through Oil development (Sarc/off). The SCOC creates “rights” on demand exclusively for that racial federal human chattel that were encouraged to exist in perpetuity in the stone age at the expense of unborn residents failing to meet the racial attributes and key political identity group to qualify for status (a rapidly growing clientele (see: https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/aboriginal-policy). Nothing much has changed other than the adoption of high powered rifles, snowmobiles, pickup trucks, central heating, internet access, free health care and education……….. The really interesting part is that no government in Canada actually discharges its so called Duty to Consult but instead demands that all resource development proponents including long term forest tenure holders do it for them. The expectation of the Indian Political class is that they are a government unto themselves at the same level as the federal Crown. For Lawyers, its work forever. For average Indians its what one would expect from racial ghettos largely dependent on welfare.

  10. By the way, guess who was prime minister when the projected was scuttled? Guess what followed a few years later, courtesy of the same PM?

  11. They now have 100% ..of nothing.
    Exactly. By the time the pipeline would have been ready to build, which would have been about 20 years ago, the market changed, so there wouldn’t have been much point in starting construction.
    I remember one of my undergrad profs fuming about the idiotic arguments against the pipeline, particularly how it would disrupt the wildlife. In one of his lectures, he told us that tests were conducted to see how the caribou would react to a compressor station. Researchers apparently set up some equipment near a herd, started it up, and….. the critters ignored it.

  12. Wildlife aren’t bothered by machinery.When I was in the logging business,the moose would come up onto the landings to see what all the commotion was about.
    There were chainsaws, skidders ,loaders,and logging trucks all running,making a hell of a racket, the moose came right up onto the landing,where a few savvy loader operators who brought their rifle had an easy moose that year.
    There’s an old saying among loggers; if you want to attract moose,run a chain saw for a while.

  13. I grew up with the oil and gas industry in northern B. C. We often went hunting and fishing in the bush, so we often encountered cutlines and wellsites.
    I don’t recall any wildlife being overly upset at what was there. In fact, I think some animals welcomed the change. The environment didn’t suffer, either. It didn’t take long for the cutlines to grow over and that attracted species that fed off the plants that were there as a result of the forest being opened up.
    Then again, most of the fuss and “concern” about all of this comes from urban environmentalists whose main experience in the wild is camping in a national park, if even that.
    By the way, many of the native groups in the area quickly adapted to the business and figured out how to make money from it. My father used to do work for some of them and he liked having them as customers as they always paid in cash.

  14. Most seismic is done now with truck-mounted, hydraulic thumpers, little by explosives. They are even mounted with fat, low air pressure tires to get around muskeg & tundra. GPS positioning. They hardly leave a mark.
    Just more US “charitable” Foundation funded, anti oil & gas exploration & development. The First Nations are paid to be activists. You pay their legal fees et al.
    Canadians are stupid.

  15. As I mentioned in my earlier post, most of the objections come from urban environmentalists. It wouldn’t surprise me if they think that gasoline and diesel fuel come from pumps at the local self-serve.

  16. While Trudeau is on record approving certain pipelines, the fact remains his chief of staff-and possibly the defacto PM, was the president of WWF Canada. The enviro department chief of staff is from the anti oil Pembina institute and natural resources has another WWF Canada director. In addition, the panels set up for reviewing taxation fraud, NEB reorganisation etc. are stacked with enviro NGOs. This ‘most transparent’ government seems more inclined to delay, harass, tax and regulate the fossil fuel industry out of business while pretending to be protectors. But hey, nice socks

  17. My Bro, God keep his soul, worked on an environmental project near Tuktuyaktuk, NWT a few years ago. He often spoke about the waste of wildlife, including whales, that had been left to rot on the shores. Entire carcasses wasted just to harvest a few parts such as heart, liver etc.
    How can seismograph hurt wildlife?? The explosion is barely felt on the soles of your boots. I had a seismo crew on my land a few years ago. They paid for any crops that were trampled including a waiver for debris that could damage farm equipment. Great bunch of guys to have around. Two were native boys from Alberta. I really got ribbed because we had few country western stations in SW Sask. It turned out the FM reception as poor because of the terrain. I had them listening to John Gormely, they really enjoyed the program.

  18. if only the left were those who suffered from idiotic decisions all would be well and the idiocy would cease. unfortunately we all get kicked in the a ss.

  19. This is the crap that happens when there’s no grown ups around. Seismic is one of the most benign short term disturbances to an area there is. Yes 15m cut lines are made – which serve later as wildlife corridors and grow over with vegetation after a few years. When you think about the amount of area disturbance that happens after a season of forest fires and compare that with the relatively miniscule disturbance from seismic it’s a no-brainer. The court costs penalty is a start but I think there should be punitive costs for willful obstruction to help offset the burden of project delay to the company too.

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