In this podcast, John Batchelor and Liz Peek examine the mental health of David Frum and other Leftists.
Update: Here’s the CBC interview that cgh referenced:
In this podcast, John Batchelor and Liz Peek examine the mental health of David Frum and other Leftists.
Update: Here’s the CBC interview that cgh referenced:
I watched all day while working and I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Trump’s patriotism is almost shocking after Obama so in some sense I can see why the anti-american left hates him.
I don’t mind David Frum. He often deviates from mainstream conservative views, but so what? Just because he opposes Trump doesn’t make him a “leftist”.
There was an uproar on the Left yesterday when someone noticed Trump had taken down the Global Warming and LGBTQ pages on the website of whitehouse.gov, the president’s website. This was proof of the apocalypse, of the United States descending into fascist dictatorship. No one mentioned that ALL the webpages on whitehouse.gov had been taken down. Obama’s stuff was removed and Trump will put his own stuff up. This is just more bedwetting on the Left. Shocking!
David fell a lil too far from Barbara’s tree it seems.
Frum is not a particularly good writer or analyst. He is a progressive. He knows the only way he is going to get his bread buttered is to “deviate”. He is a useful idiot of the left.
All your safe space are belong to us. Time to rub salt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn9Xsmj942E
He’s a Canadian RINO
The pics
http://imgur.com/a/08OQ3
Anyone that reads Frum knows that he is not a progressive. In fact, he doesn’t sit clearly on either the left or right, which makes him a target for both sides.
It was amusing watching former US ambassador to Canada David Wilkins on CBC National this week calmly dismissing essentially everything Frum said. That’s probably not something Mansbridge will want to do again, as Frum came off as a nervous hysteric.
You make a fair point but I’ve long considered John Batchelor to me an enormous source of wisdom and common sense, especially when it comes to American politics.
Frum is a globalist, neither right nor left.
He has a permanently constipated look on his face. Kind of entertaining.
When did Frum start blowing Marxists? Strange. Devolving power from the government to the people is fascist. Perhaps he should ask some of his second cousins about Nazis.
Devolving power from the government to the people is fascist?
Missed the question mark.
Actually, I like a lot of his writing. He is thorough and solidly defends the points he makes. Now I do not agree with his views on Trump, but still value him as a writer who articulates Conservative positions in a way that makes people sit up and pay attention. During the Canadian election he refuted that anti-Harper piece that appeared in the New York Times (I suspect that one was paid for by Soros as the NYT is a vehicle for globalist propaganda). Frum’s piece (which appeared in the Atlantic) never got the same profile in Canada as that NYT take down of Harper. That was entirely predictable. Frum also did a very good analysis of the problems faced by the U.S. because of indiscriminate immigration. Some groups do not integrate well. Canadians would do well to read that one which was also in the Atlantic.
David Frum is a Conservative?
Really?
If that is “Conservativism,” then I am not a Conservative. Frum is actually an Establishment Stooge who was given the role of Squishy Media Approved Conservative. He will say and do what he is told to say and do, and will do anything to stay in the good graces of the Washington DC Establishment Uniparty. He is a designated NeverTrumper, and will even slag his own reputation to fulfill his role.
The good news is that the self destruction of his reputation will be complete in the next six months, just in time for a follow up interview with the CBC.
The truth is, the likes of Frum and Coyne feel much more at home with the turdos and the tower trash than they would with any of us.
What makes Frum worth reading is that he doesn’t read from any party’s playbook, but seems to make up his own mind on issues. I don’t agree with him a lot of times, but that doesn’t bother me. If he did parrot the conservative line on every issue, he would be just another boring partisan commentator.
Of course, networks like CNN often present Frum as a standard conservative, and that he definitely is not.
When it comes to politics, religion and (sadly) science, the people I find most persuasive are the ones who aren’t forecasting doom and imminent catastrophe. In my experience those who give calm, reasonable arguments that carefully weigh out both sides of the issue are closer to the truth. There’s something off putting about feeding people’s darkest fears.
Not to pick on Frum because it’s become the norm, but this is the problem I have with many modern experts. I know they want to be seen as equal to experts like doctors and pilots but you wouldn’t have much confidence in a pilot or doctor who was in a constant state of panic – “I’m dead, you’re dead, we’re all dead!!!” Neither does the constant rage that is expressed as high school gossip quality journalism or telling everyone that they’re stupid and racist when they disagree create respect. Again…respected experts, like pilots, don’t do that in public. I don’t know maybe the days of calm, rational arguments in politics and science are over to be forever replaced by moralizing and sniping.
Frum sounds like someone who has developed an opinion on Trump (not very hard to do) that he seemed almost desperate to defend. He brought up some interesting tidbits and we’ll have to wait to see how or if they play out. I suspect and hope that there may be some divergence between the campaigning Trump and the better advised Trump.
My (formerly Democrat-voting) wife made me turn on CNN last night … just to see IF everyone was exaggerating about how vile and FAKE CNN really is. What she witnessed was the most vile and revolting display of FAKE news she ever witnessed. She listened, in stunned amazement, as a huge panel (8-10) commenters … including RINO-Rick Santorum … proceeded to discuss how Trumps inauguration speech was all about HIM … and NOT “the people”. They lamented that Trump “missed an opportunity” to connect with … the people. My calm, demure, wife was screaming at the TV ! For she had JUST watched a replay of Trumps speech … which (obviously) was ALL ABOUT the people ! It was OBVIOUS that CNN was trying to counteract the repeated postings by Drudge … counting the number of I’s and me’s in Hussein’s speeches. Typical CNN. Since they have NO DEFENSE for Hussein’s narcissism … they just MAKE UP a similar charge against Trump. It’s quite like little bullys on the playground retorting … “well, that’s what I am, but what are you”. “I am rubber, you are glue … bounces off me, and sticks to you”
CNN are little children. Little bullys … CNN are LIARS. President Trump should direct the FCC to investigate reasons to pull CNN’s license to broadcast
Not sure what Frum’s opinion is of Trump. His concerns appeared to be based on statements made by Trump and what their possible impact might be on world affairs, particularly Europe.
At some point Canada will have to grow up and be prepared to identify and defend national priorities. When I say ‘grow up’ to is about the subconscious dependence that most Canadians have on Big Brother down south. Yes, the Americans through out the Brits and were better for it. Canada did not and has suffered from a ‘Mommy’ complex ever since.
American and Canadians share many common concerns but not all. The USA does not want Canada charting an independent trade course nor developing viable world class companies. The fact we have not done this is certainly not the American’s fault.
Frum can worry all he wants about NATO and how Trump has bashed the treaty. As a Canadian I would join Trump in his complaints and add that I would not send Canadian Trumps to fight Euro battles ever again.
For a more humorous and accurate take on politics for those, like Frum, who worry about what politicians promise before an election, I give you the immortal words of former Liberal Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin:
“Don’t tell me about the Red Book, I wrote the damn thing, and I know that it is a lot of crap!”
Frumm rebelled against his ultra leftard parents by running away to America and pretending to be a Republican conservative. Now he has fully drifted back to a leftard mindset and is no one to put faith in.
LC, you have a very interesting point here about rage vs. calm and rationality. I would suggest that rage is a symptom of when people or groups sense that events are not going the way they want them to. It’s a natural human tendency, the conviction that ‘I’m right, the rest of you are just too stupid to see it.’ All of us I think have at least some of this. I plead guilty to the fact that I have from time to time become impatient with more than one commenter on SDA.
If so, then the increased articulation of rage from the chatterati is the growing awareness that, like Marie Antoinette, they’re on the wrong side of history. Without, of course, her grace and style.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/dont-gamble-on-trump/506207/
As this Atlantic article quite clearly shows, Frum would make any excuse to cover, for example, hillary’s putting US security at risk and demonize anything that Trump said, no matter what it was. This supposed erudite prognosticator showed he had no idea what the people of the US were thinking and that he would do anything as the fellatio artist he is go get a little airtime. Phony.
First there was Brexit and now Trump. A critical mass of people are no longer listening to them or taking them seriously. The loss of power and respect can induce rage on its own but I wouldn’t discount fear. What if Brexit turns out to be a success (completely discrediting Project Fear)? What if Trump does have success in areas like school choice and deregulation? What if the new government appointees discover that the science supporting many political policies aren’t all that sturdy and have been heavily buttressed by biased statistical adjustments? What if too many of the things that progressives and journalists believed without question and arrogantly mocked others for being skeptical about turn out to be wrong? Their credibility and self image as superior thinkers/people will never recover. I can see where the fear of giving the opposition the opportunity to prove the chattering class wrong would be rage inducing.
“add that I would not send Canadian Trumps to fight Euro battles ever again.”
Think back to WWI and WWII and how many Canadian lives were lost fighting Europe’s battles. And in the end (hindsight) look at the mess Europe is in today. Wasted lives.
I would not send Canadian Trumps to fight Euro battles ever again.
Which “Canadian Trumps” are you referring to?
You are right about the critical mass. And it’s been growing for some time.
1. Since 2008, the Dems have lost over 1,000 elected seats in Congress and state legislatures.
2. The Republicans now control outright 25 states in the Union, gubernatorial and legislature both.
3. Probably the leading favourite for the next President in France is Marine Le Pen.
4. Brexit shows early signs of being a success. The Pound rebounded, as did FTSE. And May laid out pretty clearly what the route forward is for leaving the EU.
5. In Canada, for the supposed leader of world liberalism, the government of Little Potato has wasted no time in being mired in the kind of scandals he said he was there to end. Even the CBC can’t hide the ugly stuff going on.
6. Open Borders is deeply unpopular in Germany, and France, and Austria, and Hungary, and…
So yes, progressives have a lot to be alarmed about. Probably little or none of this would have occurred without their overweening arrogance and self-righteousness. So they are going to go after Trump with everything they have. Because if he seems to have even some success, their goose is well and truly cooked. Hence the sweat under David Frum’s collar.
You are right.. The USA power source is fundamentally monolithic.. and the Trump train as left the Station
Trump Frump!
the problem I have with many modern experts.
… is that they proclaim expertise in general areas. How can one be an “expert” in the momnetous fulcrum of the current times? No. They are hired as experts, to proffer their opinions on subjects that we all have opinions upon. But, because they are “experts” apparently we should defer to them.
I do believe that is a rare and ”fair” interview from the CBC. I know David Frum is more left leaning than Mr. Wilkins, and obviously a tad more negative. At least they were allowed to speak freely without ”coaching” from Rosemary Barton, as is often the case on CBC political interviews.
You can’t have fair and efficient journalism whereby the owner of the media source is controlled by the government. The CBC is under Liberal rule, they always were. Even when Stephen Harper and the CBC were in power, they allowed the CBC to elect Trudeau. Not good for Canada!
“…so what? Just because he opposes Trump doesn’t make him a ‘leftist’.”
David Frum may not be a “leftist” but he’s a few Fruit Loops short of a bowlful. In his own words:
1. (Donald Trump is) “The worst human being ever to enter the presidency, and I include all the slaveholders..it’s like watching the Borgias take over an Italian city.” David Frum, Twitter Jan 20/17
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/822430065208291328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Trump had been President for zero days and Frum already knows this? And the Borgias – a family who committed bribery,extortion, torture and murder? This is hyperbolic idiocy. Why not wait a few weeks to see how the man does?
2. “(Hillary Clinton) is a patriot. She will uphold the sovereignty and independence of the United States. She will defend allies. She will execute the laws with reasonable impartiality. She may bend some rules for her own and her supporters’ advantage. She will not outright defy legality altogether. Above all, she can govern herself; the first indispensable qualification for governing others…In fact, I already have voted for her.” What a lousy judge of character!
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/dont-gamble-on-trump/506207/
Hillary is greedy and dishonest; she and Bill have a net worth estimated at $110 million and amassed this fortune, unlike Trump, not by building anything but by being corrupt politicians. That’s all they’ve ever done. Chelsea who is only 36 and has done nothing of note is now worth $15 million. Frum is obtuse.
More from his Atlantic article:
3. “To vote for Trump as a protest against Clinton’s faults would be like amputating a leg because of a sliver in the toe; cutting one’s throat to lower one’s blood pressure.”
What a useless overblown analogy. At most it was a choice between the lesser of two evils.
How about other issues like man-made climate change? Does Frum think for himself about this unproven theory which is going to cost us untold billions or does he parrot the liberal/leftist party line?
4. “I’d argue that conservatives and libertarians should strongly support regulation to reduce carbon pollution, since pollution by one entity invariably infringes upon the rights of others (including property rights), and no entity has a constitutional right to pollute.”
http://www.frumforum.com/confessions-of-a-climate-change-convert/
Carbon dioxide is a trace gas essential to the survival of all plant life, largely produced by nature, not by man. Plus in what universe does “carbon” ≠ “carbon dioxide”? To call it “carbon pollution” speaks volumes about David Frum as it does about any warmist who uses words that way.
Trump may become a good or a terrible President but for Frum to be running around screaming at this point is ridiculous even for a liberal/leftist.
There’s nothing in the comment I just attempted to post that needs to be vetted by a “blog administrator”. All that is going to happen is it will be delayed until this item is outdated, if it is approved at all. My comment, which I put considerable effort into because I thought it was worth it, will be never be seen by the person I was replying to, or anyone else for that matter.
What a waste of my time. Why do I bother commenting here?
From is such a useless cuck…
Who gives a phuk what he has to say anymore…?
I can feel your frustration!! If you watch the video on Youtube, the comments have been disabled by the CBC. Now you’re having problems here?? Scary!!
All your base are belong to us now…
robert, that was THE best link Evah from SDA comments…!
Thanks for the link to the article, when I read a phrase such as ‘Clinton’s email misjudgements’ I’m done. What a fact-bender.
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Yeah well, that’s the problem with the antiquated, obsolete software that runs this blog. There are certain weird ‘trigger words’ that trip the censor filters. The blog administrators have adamantly refused to publish a list of those trigger words so we could avoid them in our messages. We’re getting what we pay for, so we shouldn’t complain. Facebook has a much better commenting system with no trigger words and the ability to block the messages from those you decide are trolls so you don’t see them. The discussions however are not nearly as interesting.
‘The worst human being ever to enter the presidency, and I include all the slaveholders’
Good Writer? That statement is wrong in so many ways. Put aside the fact that the statement is a provocation and a call to arms for every anti-democratic leftard in America.
To judge the attitudes of presidents from 200 years ago by today’s era displays the worse kind of sophistry.
Why is this man on the TeeVee?
Well John, that will teach me not to write anything longer than a couple of sentences here. At least then if it’s “held for moderation” I won’t care. There was no profanity, not even disguised with asterisks or the like, no references to Adolph Hitler and no insults directed at the blog hosts or other commenters, much as I might feel like it at times.