We Are All Treaty People

If I can self-identify as male, I can self-identify as Algonquin.

Indigenous Affairs Minister Carolyn Bennett and her Ontario counterpart have signed a historic agreement with the Algonquins of Ontario that will eventually see wide swaths of eastern Ontario signed over to the Indigenous people as part of a modern treaty.
The deal encompasses roughly 36,000 square kilometres, stretching from Ottawa to North Bay, including large parts of the Ottawa Valley. (Parliament Hill itself falls into the catchment area.)
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A key element of the agreement will be a cash payment — although Bennett was unable to provide an exact sum. Earlier negotiations pegged the figure at $300 million, but Whiteduck said that amount is more of a floor than a ceiling.

Let the good times roll.
(h/t Rich W)

44 Replies to “We Are All Treaty People”

  1. A key element of the agreement will be a cash payment

    A tiny but welcome little deficit reduction.

    Wait, what? We’re giving away land AND throwing money in as a sweetener?
    I’d like to “negotiate” for Kathleen Wynne’s house, in that case.

  2. Good thing that won’t happen out west.
    BTW, indigenous affairs minister. Would the be the similar to the indian affairs department that existed for the last 149 years?

  3. That works out to 450 hectares (1,112 acres) per Indian according to the article’s estimate of there being 8000 Algonquins for which this applies. Along with the cash and a low-ball land value of $2000 per hectare we’re talking close to a million dollars per Indian. Will it be in fee simple and deeded individually or will it be a communist settlement to be held collectively by the Band? If the later, then they will be back at the trough in short time. Does the settlement extinguish all other racial entitlements? Do the benefits accrue equally to anyone 1/16 or better in racial purity or to anyone who knows the Chief? Any DNA testing required? So many questions, so few details.

  4. What “Ontario counterpart” would the federal Indian Affairs minister have? Section 91 (24) of the Constitution clearly limits aboriginal affairs to the federal government, rightly or wrongly creating responsibilities that it must deal with. A provincial government is out of line to get mixed up in this.
    Any government that treats a group differently based on the colour of their skin is guilty of racism. This big land giveaway is just more apartheid nonsense and it is going to end badly.

  5. Let me get this right. They gave them land and money twenty years ago, it almost destroyed them. So now we’ll give them more land and money so we they build more bars and bingo halls!! Great philosophy!! Vote Liberal??

  6. *
    “turtle says… Any government that treats a group differently based
    on the colour of their skin is guilty of racism.”

    you mean like the canadian judicial system giving special breaks to
    blacks & aboriginals?
    don’t believe me? google “gladue hearing”.
    *

  7. All the Indians I know own grow ops., tobacco shops, gas stations, weed stores and sell booze and have cigarette routes. They’re loaded and own cottages boats, collector cars and mansions. Some of them are real cops also. The gas station on the Rama reserve nets $10,000 dollars a day profit alone. They all carry baseball wads of cash. One of the guys I fished with lets $20.00 bills blow out of his truck because he famously “only has hundreds” when he pulls a softball sized wad of hundreds out of his front pocket.

  8. Many thanks to two spirits leader Wynne and sidekick Bennett.Next we wantum downtown Toronto and 100 billion.You wouldn’t want New Caledonia there would you.Did’nt think so me have to go now new Bentley just come in from body shop.

  9. in a sane country we would have intelligent people in office not a bunch of braindead socialists.

  10. I am curious what the enemedia reaction would be if someone crashed a progressive Trudeau event and self-identified as PM.

  11. This is historic stupidity. Were there an Opposition sitting in the HOC and the Ontario Legislature these idiots would not go unchallenged. This has to be off the charts in illegalities for starters.

  12. Why not give the whole province to the Algonquins? There is literally no group on this planet that would do a worse job of running it than the current government. Things could only improve.

  13. The smudge has darkened,
    Habemus Chief…
    and the Potato will now be known as Chief Thiefenbaker.

  14. This will turn out to be yet another example of Trudeau’s government not knowing what it is doing, and not doing its homework. Note that there has never been a “CFB Rockcliffe Park”; the former CFB Rockcliffe (no Park) is on the other side of the Manor Park subdivision from Rockcliffe Park, the iconic Ottawa home of the rich and powerful. Manor Park was anything but upscale, although gentrification has recently taken hold. CFB Rockcliffe was as industrial as any 1940’s air base could have been; was closed decades ago and all the infrastructure razed; and has since moved through Canada Lands and been sold off to private developers. That process involved the usual claims by the usual suspects and a bountiful settlement to them in exchange for a quit claim that allowed the sales to private owners to go through. We all know that settling once never stands in the way of the Indian Industry reclaiming for a whole new deal, but do Ms Bennett or Mr Zimmer know that they are dealing cards that are no longer theirs? The lands and sums involved stagger the imagination, particularly for a claim that has never been given much credence, and is itself covered in counter-claims of equally dubious provenance.

  15. “You can’t just be of descent, if you don’t exercise your Aboriginal rights and belong to a collective, you don’t necessarily have Aboriginal rights, according to the law,”
    So says Chief Whiteduck, but I’m not at all sure. Previous experience in NFD and the whole Metis situation suggests anyone who “feels” Indian can pretty well claim to be. And who exactly will set up the genealogical profiling to determine ancestry? The SC simply avoided it in the Metis ruling, but someone gas to do it. And that someone has to rule on heritage similar to Nazis deciding race in earlier times. But I thought such race profiling was repugnant to Liberal thinking, not so when certain races are involved.

  16. Some of my ancestors were trappers and hunters, they were involved with Indians…I may have some Indian blood…need to check with Ancestry.ca. It may be the only escape from paying taxes in Ontario where the lights are going to be going out or dimmed due to non payment of bills.

  17. UN is pushing these name changes to align with their “sustainable development”agenda. Indian affairs becomes Indigenous Affairs. Foreign Affairs is now Global Affairs. It also would not surprise me if this giving back the land plus money was at the behest of our UN masters. Canada as a nation state is being obliterated. Our leaders are traitors. I think that is a fair way to put it. The left won’t figure it out until it is too late.

  18. What is the definition of Native anyways? My family roots go back 3 generations before Confederation and we have always been the keepers of Mother Earth.

  19. The left won’t figure it out until it is too late.
    If those on the left are true followers of the Frankfurt School, they wouldn’t care. Their whole objective is to overthrow western civilization. Whatever replaces it, if anything, is not their concern.

  20. There is an increasingly larger part of what I want, which is for Donald Trump to be cheated/corrupted out of the U.S.A Presidenticial campaign.
    My focus the will be on having the Niagara Peninsula and South Western Ontario join with the Northern Ontario separatist group to the Western separatist Movement.
    Once this is drawn in Rough fashion the loosely amalgamated Citizens of Canada West will develop an ever incresing Alliance with the reformation of Continental North America.
    Continental North America will consist of the “Red State” majority voter States And/Or the Identifiable separate areas of any State which geographically shares borders with a State of the Continental North America.
    If and When the Continental North American States & the Canada West Citizens have coalesced then there will be at a Minimum Four Countries in the Continent of North America.—-Mexico; —Continental States of America; (including the State(s) of Canada West;—-Rest of North America; ( R.O.N.A)
    R.O.N.A. will presumably coalece into other configurations; Such as;– Atlantic North America;—- Pacific North America—-North America France;–
    Continental States of America will remain the greatest Union of Citizens with more Than 200 Million People.

  21. Thank you, Glengarrian! I always bristle when newspaper or other articles say that “Canada is a nation of immigrants” and I write in to point out that some families – in Eastern Canada in particular – have family trees going back for generationssss! Your comment adds to my arsenal!
    A. Kern

  22. The ONE reason I have ever found to be in favor of “reparations” … is to then STOP all other forms of welfare-guilt payments to the “repairees”. No more free housing, food, medical, cash, cell phones, etc. sadly, I see these “reparations” also come with continuing wampum payments from the white man’s culture.
    I am SO in the wrong business. I have GOT to get into victimhood NOW ! Before the end of Western civilization.

  23. Everyone who has one drop of Indian blood should start their own bands such as this one:
    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-mikinaks-call-themselves-quebecs-newest-aboriginal-community-others-are-calling-them-a-fraud
    The Indian business is as racist as the Nazis because if you’re too white you’re not Indian except for Mohawks, grand chiefs, and Douglas Cardinal.
    If half the population becomes Indian – Indian-ness becomes irrelevant. I suspect 98 % of Quebecois and others who have been in the country more than 150 years have Indian ancestry.

  24. Interesting to note that the very same tract of land was legally bought by treaty by the British government from the Mississauga Indians in 1822. Shouldn’t we get a refund, if the Mississauga did not own it?

  25. Wiki has a map of the Mississauga that shows them in Ontario with the Algonquin further east in Quebec. Did Trudeau just give a billion in land and money to people that didn’t own it? Sounds like a Liberal thing. It might be simple nomenclature as the Mississauga are an Algonquin people as are the Cree, Micmac, and so forth.

  26. The entire discussion on whether one is a true pure bred savage of that tribe or another is pointless. We should not be negotiating with any of them, we should not recognize any of them, we should bulldoze every reserve and treat them as normal Canadian citizens. They have an opportunity to be Canadians. They, the conquered savages who never contributed anything to humanity, reject this opportunity? For that they are beyond contempt. We should recognize treason and terrorism and punish appropriately.

  27. The art of a scam…Ontario needs federal money… Transfer a Billion on a paper land deal that will never take place….The end game plan was never completed but the money was spent by Ontario….Sell more provincial land to the Feds…More Money

  28. Spoken like a TRUE Colonista ! How DARE you ! You need a thorough guilt restoring reeducation trip to the Yukon or somewhere deep in primordial forest to live like the native peoples. To commune with the earth rather than DESTROY it like a diseased European settler. You need to listen to the wind in the trees rather than foul the wind with your Co2 spewing power plants gobbling up the land. You need to dip your hand-woven net into the pristine waters fed by the snowmelt triggered by global warming to feel the struggle of a trapped salmon in your trembling hands, numbed by the chill of an early spring morning. THEN maybe you will confess your sins against the great Northern gods who formed the land from the back of the old tortoise, and bow your knee to every other woodland god-creature who nourishes your squaw back in the bark lodge. You need to STRIP OFF your so-called evolution and technology and return to nature.
    … see … I can do it just as well as Progressive (ambiguously-gendered) Pat !

  29. On many a cold winter’s day we, in the West have jokingly said, “We should give this country back to the Indians”.
    Never thinking that we would have to pay them to take it back!!

  30. Yes, guilty as charged, I confess. I am an unabashed fan of western colonialism and imperialism (also Zionism). The entire world should pay us reparations for bringing them out of their savage ways. (Pity most societies are too pathetic to benefit from it.)
    As for punishment I suppose I need to join a the healing circle which in the ancestral language of people I identify with is called a mosh pit. Crank up the Sabaton (since it is the Swedish music week at SDA) and let the healing begin.

  31. It’s tough to form a Swedish drum circle when each performer is playing 3 full kits with Gatling guns sticking out of them … he says with hand in the air forming satanic symbol, tongue fully extended and flapping ! … because it IS melanin-deficient music week. My Great Grandmother Yerda, is rocking in her grave.

  32. In 1989, I was down from Vancouver Island visiting a logger in Washington State to view his skyline logging operation and all he wanted to talk about was the need to breed-out all traces of the Indian race. He claimed it was the only way to end the nonsense and he was likely correct. I used video of his operation to teach forest engineering students on several occasions but had to keep the sound down as “we need to f..k it out of them” was rather distracting to the subject material.

  33. If one thought that Caledonia was bad, watch this descend into pure road-blocking chaos.
    When racialist money-eaters think that they are on top, they can be very nasty.
    I suspect if the deal falls through (which it could) it will be rubber bullets time.

  34. If these tribes, all of them throughout this country had never seen a white person most of them would have died from malnutricon, or disease,or tribal wars. Before the white devils came along they were dragging their belongings around on two sticks while the rest of the world had been using the wheel for several centuries.The benefits these people have received from mainstream society in North America far outweigh anything they have contributed.

  35. The Muslims are not going to like this!
    Indigenous Affairs Minister Carolyn Bennett needs to be held accountable with the Human Rights Commission for offending Muslims and every other Third World squatter who believes the land and money belongs to them.

  36. My understanding was that west of Port Arthur and Fort William the settelments with the Natives was through treaties and in Ontario and Quebec the Government
    bought the land from the Natives. what land they wanted for themselves they did not sell. It was all settled in the east with no problems. When they started negoteations out west the people of the east showed no interest of those “Western Problems. Now I understand the East has and will continue to have insurmountable problems. The Natives and the aboriginals ( Yes there is both ) will all get on the take, like The tribes in New Brunswick claiming All of the province. That is why ” Harper ” refused to obey the U N orders and decreed all Natives will deal directly with Companies that want to put a road, pipeline or whatever on their land. It was working fine,However Justin is now going to obey the UN and deal Nation To Nation. That gives all 658+ Tribes the same Nation State as france or Sweden and all world Nation status. This $$$$ deal is the toe in the door. Don;t forget the Supreme Court gave native status to all with Native heritage.

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