ISIS Is Just Saudi Arabia In Its Formative Stage

As another terror attack unfolds in Paris…

The Independent that Badawi, who was sentenced to 1,000 lashes, received the first round of 50 in a public flogging after Friday prayers, which it says continue every Friday for 20 weeks.
A witness told the human rights organisation that Badawi was removed from a bus in shackles and taken to a public square in front of the al-Jafali mosque in Jeddah. He was then flogged in front of a crowd and security guards for 15 minutes, before being put back on the bus and driven away.
Amnesty says Badawi, who started the “Free Saudi Liberals” website, was arrested in June 2012 for creating an online forum for public debate and over accusations that he insulted Islam. His website has also been shut down.

Related: “… you almost get the impression, you almost get the impression now that the Western appeasement crowd are in fact willing to be Islam’s enforcers in the West. And that’s very dark and very disturbing, and bad things will flow from that if we cannot even honestly talk about this.”

77 Replies to “ISIS Is Just Saudi Arabia In Its Formative Stage”

  1. You say: ….stop referring to “Muslims” or “Islam” as the problem, and call out people who do. Know that lazy rhetoric that demonizes all Muslims or Islam simply plays into the jihadists’ hands.
    No.

  2. “stop referring to “Muslims” or “Islam” as the problem, and call out people who do. Know that lazy rhetoric that demonizes all Muslims or Islam simply plays into the jihadists’ hands.”
    They’re Islamists following the teachings imams and their prophet(PSBUH)Mohammed and doing it in the name of Allah.
    What would you like us to call them? Mormons?

  3. “Know that lazy rhetoric that demonizes all Muslims or Islam simply plays into the jihadists’ hands.”
    So in other words an average mooselimb is insecure enough that when someone accuses them of murder they go on murdering? Fine, I am willing to go with that.

  4. Considering how many civilian Germans got firebombed just for being Germans, your point doesn’t tread water.
    Go talk to someone who was in Dresden circa 1945.

  5. foucault aint wrong. The real skum is the cowardly green asswipes in unions and sucking arse, ,, etc..

  6. Rich talk coming from the anti-semite, bigoted, racist. You are an embarrassment to Canada. You are an embarrassment.

  7. What gets me is so many news commentators calling Mohammad a prophet. Yet none will call Jesus the Christ. Is Mohammad their prophet?Another dodge to self censor

  8. Your (unfortunately widely held) viewpoint is proven daily to be the largest obstacle to something resembling sane security strategy in the west. And your characteristic stubbornness is chiefly to blame for the cost paid in blood for discrediting said viewpoint. And make no mistake, it’s being discredited.

  9. If you don’t consider interning them as enemy aliens if they lived here, and carpet bombing them if the lived there as “villainizing” them, then you’re right. From a more reality based paradigm, you have no idea what you are talking about.

  10. “What people like you are either unable to comprehend or unwilling to admit, Foucault, is that wherever there are large numbers of Muslims the extremists come with the package. If a country imports a million Muslims, it will also be importing extremists; it’s just that straight.”
    I can accept your premise on the face of it, but only because it’s so trite. Take a million people from ANY given source population–Brits, Poles, Kinh people, White Anglo-Saxon Protestants, SDA readers, Rabble readers, foreign-born Canadians, native-born Canadians — and you’re bound to end up your fair share of spousal abusers, rapists, murderers, maybe a serial killer or two. They may not raping and killing in the name of their twisted religious extremism, but they’re raping and killing in the name of…well, whatever twisted ideas motivate a Luka Magnotta, a Phu Lam, a Travis Baumgartner, a Russell Williams, or a James Roszko.

  11. Perhaps Foucault can name the one country where Christians and Muslims live in harmony and see each other as equals. One country where they admit Sharia law does not treat half the population (women) equally and have made small steps to change that. One country that does not strive to make Islam the dominant power once the numbers allow them to proceed. One country where Muslims have integrated and accepted their new host without trying to change the religious foundation. Or accept the fact that all religions are sometimes the butt of a joke….better known as free speech. There is no such country anywhere in the western world. Muslims can be here for generations and never integrate or accept western values as long as they are guided by the Quaran.
    Perhaps Foucault can tell us how many terrorist attacks are made by Christians against Muslims.

  12. Amazing how delusional the Progressive mindset.
    These killers, proclaim Jihad(Duh Holy War).
    They kill people all over this planet invoking their God.
    But the lefties insist they are joking?
    You have to be dumber than a sack of rocks, not to take them at their word.
    They clearly mean what they say.
    They have promised to kill all the unbelievers..yadda, yadda…
    A clear death threat, from members of a death cult.
    I believe them, there for I have the right to kill them.
    Survival trumps legalize BS.
    Muslims have a choice, clean up your own religion, or get sucked into the chaos these killers desire.
    Unless they cast out the crazies, they will be seen as fellow travellers.
    Civilization, civil society cares about these distinctions, we the mob do not give a damn.
    If we believe our existence is at stake, the loss of a few innocents is no big deal.
    Ratio right now is 7:1.
    That 1 (billion) seem to all believe some pretty stupid stuff, that they allow some of their members to use as justification for barbarism.
    Murder, mutilation,rape and slavery…one might also suspect muslims are most at war with women.

  13. “Perhaps Foucault can name the one country where Christians and Muslims live in harmony and see each other as equals. ”
    Not even that, one country where mooselimb majority is tolerant and respectful of a non-mooselimb minority and treats them as equals.

  14. Boko Harum, also known as Polko Harum, slaughter 2000 women, children, old people, and those who could nor run very fast. Muslims kill muslims more than any other race. They are SAVAGES, ANIMALS.

  15. Foucault said: “Last I checked, we defeated the Nazis, and we didn’t need to villainise all Germans to do so.”
    You’ve never seen any Canadian war time propaganda, have you? The word you’re looking for is “dehumanize”, and that is of course the very purpose of propaganda. You can’t actually wage a war without doing it. Otherwise the horror alone would stop it.
    If you want to know the results of that dehumanization of the Germans and the Japanese, look up the bombing of Dresden, the Dam Busters, and two aircraft that bombed Japan called “Enola Gay” and “Bock’s Car”.
    If we have to go so far as to do to the Mooselimbs what we did to the Germans and Japanese in WWII, it will be a sad fricking day indeed.
    For my part, I’d rather blame YOU and all your little liberal friends. Its your f-ing fault these barbarian @ssh0les are even IN Canada.

  16. We should understand that Foulcault proudly takes his handle from Michel Foulcault who was a author of “The Archeology of knowledge” and “The study of Discourse” among other theories.
    “Studies employing the Foucauldian discourse analysis may for example look at how figures in authority use language to express their dominance, and request obedience and respect from those subordinate to them. In a specific example, a study may look at the language used by teachers towards students, or military officers towards conscripts. This approach could also be used to study how language is used as a form of resistance to those in power.”
    Thanks Wiki, often good for nothing.
    So we can see that rather than coming from a logical position of common sense, he is just another brainwashed student from a lefty professor of academia that would probably have trouble holding a position as greeter in Walmart.
    His theories seem to leave a lot to be desired.

  17. Revnant has it exactly right. I am soooo tired of every commentator in the media giving reverence to the Muslim patriarch by referring to him as “the prophet” Mohammed. It leaves me thinking that they’re muttering under their breath, peace be upon him.
    Despite the fact that every Tom, Dick and Harry in the religion is a Mohammed of one spelling or another, we all know who they’re talking about, so drop the deferential pro2h2qsbphet BS – unless he happens to be your personal guy.

  18. “Despite the fact that every Tom, Dick and Harry in the religion is a Mohammed of one spelling or another…”
    There is a little HAM in every MoHAMed….

  19. Foucault is a well-trained troll – but still just a troll. Parrots can repeat what they’re trained to repeat, but that doesn’t mean there’s a human mind operating behind the squawking. Cut off his supply of millet and hopefully he’ll shut up and crawl back under his rock.

  20. >”Timelier reminder: the majority of Germans weren’t Nazis;”
    False.
    You couldn’t get a job in Hitler’s 3rd Reich without being a member of the Nazi party.
    Every job and business was dedicated to the 3rd Reich, it was Fascism.
    It was National Socialism and it’s scope was truly national.
    Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer: One People, One Empire, One Leader.
    Every single German was a Nazi after Hitler took over, even the Germans who didn’t vote for the Nazis before Hitler became the Führer joined the National Socialist German Worker’s Party.
    If you didn’t have a job you couldn’t eat and you couldn’t get a job if you weren’t a party member.
    >”the (vast) majority of Muslims are not radical fundamentalists.”
    False.
    The majority of Muslims are in fact radicals.
    Islam is an extreme radical ideology.
    The Myth of the Tiny Radical Muslim Minority
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
    The Pew Study the Above Video is based On.
    http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

  21. minuteman: “If you don’t consider interning them as enemy aliens if they lived here, and carpet bombing them if the lived there as “villainizing” them, then you’re right.”
    The Phantom: “If you want to know the results of that dehumanization of the Germans and the Japanese, look up…”
    In all of this (ever-more tangential) discussion, I never claimed that only Nazis were ever killed. The nature of the war, and the available weapons of war, necessarily meant gross civilian casualties. But you know how we know that we were fighting Nazis and not “Germans”, Japanese military and not the “Japanese”? When the Axis military forces surrendered, the war ended. Strictly speaking, German and Japanese individuals were no longer, and never really were, the threat. The conflict was between specific belligerents, not entire ethno-cultural groups.
    Re: internment of ethnic Germans, less than 0.2% in N. America were ever interned, and only after being individually investigated and deemed a potential threat (e.g., links to/members of the German Nazi Party). We didn’t just round up all Germans and deport them.
    Re: Japanese internment, subsequent Congressional investigations concluded that it lacked military/national security justification and was mostly about xenophobia and racism. The 1988 Civil Liberties Act, signed by President Reagan, referred to it as an injustice and offered reparations; amendment in 1992 offered additional reparations, and referred to it as a national disgrace.
    Re: Dresden, again, now widely acknowledged as hardly the allied nations’ finest hour, an excessive act, and for some, a war crime. In any case, the military purpose of Dresden–also Chastise, also Hiroshima/Nagasaki–wasn’t to target and kill the German (or Japanese) people per se, it was to force their military leaders’ hands. Again, the real enemy was a specific one.
    Re: war propaganda, we now study these often xenophobic cultural products as unfortunate things that can be understood in the context of their times, but that we should try to avoid in the future. So why allow history to repeat itself?

  22. “Last I checked, we defeated the Nazis”[…large section based on Falsehood that dehumanizing the enemy was not part of defeating them…] “So why allow history to repeat itself?”
    Why try to defeat Islam and have victory over the Head Choppers?
    This person, Foucault, knows nothing about war.
    In order to achieve victory, dehumanizing the enemy and killing them mercilessly is absolutely necessary.
    Last I checked, we haven’t achieved Victory in War since defeating Germany and Japan in WWII.

  23. Canada for one ? I disagree. When the numbers are there we will experience the same discourse Europe has. The numbers are simply not there yet.

  24. I believe the proper analogy here would be one we are all familiar with. Troy believed all was as it should be when they pulled the Trojan horse into the city. Multiculturalism from Muslim countries is that Trojan horse and the end result will be another long bloody conflict which could easily be avoided by knowing which cultures we have something in common with. We have nothing in common with Islam and that will not change. Political correctness will not make that change. Anyone that has read the Quran knows the end game is domination using any and all means. Turning the other cheek or acceptance of another religion is nowhere to be found in the teachings. They have time, purpose and outbreed us. I’m sure someone will bring up immigration from other countries like China, India,Ireland (heh)etc. who also saw their share of discrimination but it all worked out fine in the long run. It worked out fine because their religions did not mandate ruling the world and the dominance of all infidels. The difference should be hammered home to our politicians who are not nearly as bright as we give them credit for.

  25. Re: Japanese internment, subsequent Congressional investigations concluded that it lacked military/national security justification and was mostly about xenophobia and racism.
    It’s easy to judge past actions with today’s sensibilities especially when those that lived the war have nearly all died or live in their dotage.
    Our neighbor, may he rest in peace, fought in Burma and remembered how the Japanese treated his comrades who had the misfortune to end up in one of their POW camps. There were no Japanese made cars in his drive. When a Japanese firm bought into a local interest and put up their flag, one dark night he had his sons bring that flag to him. The next morning when he did the morning paper work in his outhouse he took some satisfaction in using that flag to finish up the job; he was one tough SOB.

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