QUESTION: “If Mac Harb pays back what he owes, will you invite him back in the Liberal caucus?”
TRUDEAU: “Yes, absolutely… The issue that both Mr. Harb and interestingly Mr. Brazeau are facing around expenses have been characterised even by the Senate as more of an honest mistake.”
– Global News, June 6, 2013:
Cruising the NDP site? Are you really that bored? Slow news day?
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! I didn’t pick up on the “mouse over is your friend” reference until it was too late. I’m going to take a shower….
There is an element of unreality involved when any leader of the
loyal opposition in Parliament assures us that abolishing the
senate will be on his priority list after he becomes prime minister.
Suppose the NDP could make it a binding condition of party membership
that any NDPer accepting an appointment to the senate constitutes fraud
if they wanted to walk the talk.
Wot, the NDP stealing Conservative ideas? Abolish the senate? I only wish. How about EEE or perhaps …
that “smiling” picture of Mulch-hair must be a look-a-like, or photo chopped, as Mulch-hair can’t smile!!!!!
that “smiling” picture of Mulch-hair must be a look-a-like, or photo chopped, as Mulch-hair can’t smile!!!!!
It’s hard to tell who has greater delusions – baby PET’s delusion he’s running an honest party – Or Mad Tom’s delusions of grandeur that he can abolish the senate without changing the constitution and having that change ratified by public referendum. They’re both megalomaniacs and Canada is worse off having them any where near the levers of state.
Say, Mr Mulcair, any update on Paul Dewar?
Does anyone know what “facing around expenses” means?
Seems disingenuous that the NDP would have the nerve to criticize liberal corruption when anyone who live under their rule provincially is getting a preview of how incompetent and corrupt the NDP will be federally if they ever get in.
As abolishing the Senate would require 7 provinces having over half the population and the eastern 5 provinces are over-represented, don’t hold your breath. A Prime Minister could quit appointing senators but once a quorum could not be achieved, no laws could be passed and his successor would have a lot of pork to barrel. Quebec is going to court to oppose the change in succession rules to allow females full access to the monarchy because they didn’t sign on. As Prince George was born with a dick, it won’t even be a question for 80 – 100 years. Quebec would quickly be in court should anyone decide to do an end-run on the Senate without due process involving a constitutional amendment.
Well I’m chuffed!
Just figured out how to “mouse over” on my mouseless iPad mini, AFTER visiting the orange place.
Next time!
SDA – keeping geezers on their toes, every day!
But will I remember …. next time?
Shiny Pony proves every time he opens his mouth that he’s essentially a complete airhead. The man isn’t fit to run a lemonade stand, and yet he will be Prime Minister one day. The low-information voters and the swooning women will see to it. God help us all.
There is a very easy way to end the Senate without the BS of provincial approval, constitutional amendment, etc:
Don’t make any more appointments to fill vacant seats! Just let it dwindle into nothingness.
“Just let it dwindle into nothingness.”
once a quorum could not be achieved, no laws could be passed and his successor would have a lot of pork to barrel.
I believe 5 eastern provinces and Saskatchewan are over represented .
Obviously there would have to be an Agreement in place between the major parties to let the Senate die this slow death.
The existing Senators would have no qualms about going along with it, because, after all, the changes wouldn’t affect them in the least.
And I could guarantee you that by the time the membership had dwindled to a handful, the Constitutional hurdles to eliminate this golden hog-trough will have disappeared.
Scar abolishing the senate involves re writing of the BNA act – the formula you have given is for changing the charter (a different legal animal altogether) The patriation of the BNA act did not involve an amending formula so the old one still holds – a public referendum girectly o the change (a la Meech Lake) 50% plus one – same numbers formula that brought provinces into the confederation.
General procedure for amending Constitution of Canada
38. (1) An amendment to the Constitution of Canada may be made by proclamation issued by the Governor General under the Great Seal of Canada where so authorized by
(a) resolutions of the Senate and House of Commons; and
(b) resolutions of the legislative assemblies of at least two-thirds of the provinces that have, in the aggregate, according to the then latest general census, at least fifty per cent of the population of all the provinces.
Amendments without Senate resolution
47. (1) An amendment to the Constitution of Canada made by proclamation under section 38, 41, 42 or 43 may be made without a resolution of the Senate authorizing the issue of the proclamation if, within one hundred and eighty days after the adoption by the House of Commons of a resolution authorizing its issue, the Senate has not adopted such a resolution and if, at any time after the expiration of that period, the House of Commons again adopts the resolution.
If the Liberals pay back what they owe from the Adscam loot, should they be allowed back in Parliament?
Of course. But how about: Not until then?