It’s Probably Nothing

Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device

An experimental investigation of possible anomalous heat production in a special type of reactor tube named E-Cat HT is carried out. The reactor tube is charged with a small amount of hydrogen loaded nickel powder plus some additives. The reaction is primarily initiated by heat from resistor coils inside the reactor tube. Measurement of the produced heat was performed with high-resolution thermal imaging cameras, recording data every second from the hot reactor tube. The measurements of electrical power input were performed with a large bandwidth three-phase power analyzer. Data were collected in two experimental runs lasting 96 and 116 hours, respectively. An anomalous heat production was indicated in both experiments. The 116-hour experiment also included a calibration of the experimental set-up without the active charge present in the E-Cat HT. In this case, no extra heat was generated beyond the expected heat from the electric input. Computed volumetric and gravimetric energy densities were found to be far above those of any known chemical source. Even by the most conservative assumptions as to the errors in the measurements, the result is still one order of magnitude greater than conventional energy sources.

From the PDF

“The device subject to testing was powered by 360 W for a total of 96 hours, and produced in all 2034 W thermal. This value was reached by calculating the power transferred by the E-Cat HT to the environment by convection and power irradiated by the device. The resultant values of generated power density (7093 W/kg) and thermal energy density (6,81 · 105 Wh/kg) allow us to place the E-Cat HT above conventional power sources”

Lance: “nickel powder plus unknown additives pressurized with hydrogen gas”. Was that Timmins, Ont. I just heard screaming in joy?

20 Replies to “It’s Probably Nothing”

  1. A low energy nuclear reaction?
    They don’t even know how it works, all they know is that it works really well.
    Fascinating. I need one in my house in winter.

  2. So this is good right?
    I have long felt that we will not run out of oil and gas and coal. We will have ample cheap supplies of all fossil energy sources – as long as the politicians get out of the way – until one day they are usurped by option(s) even more ample and far cheaper – IOW not solar or tidal or wind (guffaw) or conventional nuclear.
    As sheik Yemeni famously said “the Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones”.
    the idiocy and hubris and simple lack of understanding of market forces and humans inventive nature that most on the left possess when they think that we will burn every last gram reveals that they not only do they rarely if at all read history, but that even when they do they are blinded by their ideology and are unable to learn from it.
    That said, there are many from all political spectrums who assume that the fossil fuel industry will be lucrative for a very long time to come. They do so at their peril. A crash in prices – already happened in NG – is in the offing due to supply booms. A far greater crash with the advent of commercial developments of options such as the one outlined above, could – will – render much of the worlds fossil fuel infrastructure obsolete and surplus with diametrically opposed consequences for those who are significant producers versus those who are significant consumers.
    As for the lance sidebar re: Timmins – think bigger – think Labrador.

  3. Be very skeptical of this. There is a commenter at Anthony Watts’ blog that has tried spamming the group with E-Cat stuff on numerous occasions, only to be roundly scorned by many of the very knowledgeable readers there.
    The promoter of the E-Cat, Rossi, I believe his name is, has quite the checkered history.
    I’d recommend that with this one, believe only 10% of that which you can actually prove. Remember it was bad calorimetry that tripped up Pons and Fleischman, and bad calorimetry is outrageously easy to do.

  4. Andrea Rossi has a very controversial background. He has previously been convicted of fraud in Italy. However, the E-Cat has had a number of reviews by relatively independent scientific groups, and appears real. The folks at “Pure Energy Systems Network” (PESN) have been following his work for many years, and appear convinced by these experiments. Read more about it here: http://pesn.com/2013/05/20/9602320_VINDICATION–3rd-Party-E-Cat_Test-Results-show-at-least-10x-gain/ You can find more about it at PESN, including a time about 2-1/2 years ago when Rossi claimed to demonstrate, and then deliver, ten 1-Megawatt systems to an undisclosed buyer, about which I have found no further information.

  5. Hmmm … would be nice if true , but does anyone remember the Cold Fusion fraud ?

  6. The phrases “you don’t get something for nothing” and “there’s no such thing as a free lunch” come to mind, especially when the ‘inventor’ won’t divulge exactly what’s inside his gizmo, can’t explain what’s happening inside it, and won’t let anyone take it apart to find out for themselves.

  7. OOO OOO OOO Can I join in? My neighbour’s uncle’s grandfather’s nephew’s cousin thrice removed has a carburetor that gives 300 miles to the gallon if you align the magnets just right.

  8. Skeptics are right to be extremely cautious about this one. As Gord rightly noted, Pons and Fleischmann blew up the notion of cold fusion because of calorimetry errors, and this one is likely the same. Measurement of their 2000 Watts will be extremely difficult under the conditions claimed.
    And I never like mysterious, patent-protected catalysts. The universe never makes it easy to release the strong nuclear forces.

  9. a few years ago , nearly 15 there was a company in Calgary , Tathacus Resources Ltd. that claimed to have a digital (yes digital) hydrogen production system that beat unity. they managed to get about 4 or so first nations to invest ( yes, tax money)
    fraud

  10. I was going to point out all the reasons that this story could be readily dismissed, but it looks like others have already beat me to it.
    I think the real story here is how many scientists are willing to disregard the scientific process when they’re excited about something.

  11. Supposedly there’s has been a 1 megawatt e-cat up and running for months. But no one knows where it is at. Scam until working units are delivered. And the promise is, or was, that 5 KW units for home heating will be available for purchase last October. I haven’t placed a deposit on one.

  12. ” 360 W for a total of 96 hours, and produced in all 2034 W ”
    I’ve not researched this – however the units are wrong here. The output should be in Watt hours, not Watts
    (e.g 360 W x 96 hrs = 34,560 Whr).
    Probably flakey like the rest of the cold fusion stuff.

  13. I think what they meant there is that with an electrical input of 360W, the thermal output was 2034W in average. They do have a graph of energy consumed vs energy produced in kWh (kilowatt-hours) in the PDF as well.
    A bit more context to this report:
    http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/156393-cold-fusion-reactor-independently-verified-has-10000-times-the-energy-density-of-gas
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/05/20/finally-independent-testing-of-rossis-e-cat-cold-fusion-device-maybe-the-world-will-change-after-all/
    If true, the greenies aren’t going to like this.

  14. Well … since my post got trapped for administrative review … I’ll cut to the chase.
    This is hogwash.

  15. If it’s patented, it can’t be mysterious. Patent equals limited monopoly in exchange for full disclosure, which becomes public 18 months after filing or when the patent is granted, whichever comes first.

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