Canadian Excluded Peoples Attack “Thwarted”

Terrorism 121 Comments

CBC:

Canadian police and intelligence agencies will announce later today they have thwarted a plot to carry out a major terrorist attack, arresting suspects in Ontario and Quebec, CBC News has learned.
Highly placed sources tell CBC News the alleged plotters have been under surveillance for more than a year in Quebec and southern Ontario.

Broad Strata Update: Muslim community leaders and imams gathering at Toronto RCMP airport detachment for briefing on terror plot arrests
Update: RCMP news release here.
Ontario RCMP: “This is the first time the #RCMP has laid charges related to an Al-Qaeda supported attack on Canadian soil.”
@StewartBellNP Toronto terror suspects are not Canadians, suspects were getting support from ‘al Qaeda elements in Iran’: RCMP


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121 Replies to “Canadian Excluded Peoples Attack “Thwarted””

  1. Obviously you have never been to a car dealership where white males do the same thing every day (i’ve witnessed it first hand. And that kind of discussion happened in white doctor’s clinics and churches quite regularly 30 and 40 years ago.
    Not saying its correct in any of the above cases just noting that this kind of derogtory conduct towards women is hardly monopoly held by muslims.
    AND it has nothing to do with the issue – terroism – under discussion.

  4. How do you deal with Muslim society. When the bomber slash killers are considered Martyers?
    Unlike in any other Religion where people who stand for their faith by dying for it. Islam’s version of martyrs are those that kill unbelievers. The only sure way a Muslim can know he is going to the brothel in the sky. When a serial killer commits murder in the name of allah 14 members of his family are assured this as well. Not to mention he gets 72 virgins. So their is a cone of silence amongst so called “moderate ” Muslims. They gain from this.Its an act of piety to them to kill unbelievers.
    We will get no co-operation from a community told every Friday not to integrate into the infidels culture or society. Not a peep of information from these who the koran clearly praises the killing of the kaffir.The shunning of any None Muslim or friendship After all 14 members are going to Muslim heaven with every plot to kill those none Muslim.
    Its insidious which it was meant to be. This is a conquers Religion with a political target. The Caliphate of supreme power.The Religion is only the carrot to the totalitarian donkey.
    How can any culture that seeks to undermine any other , hope to part of any other society , when they consider them inferior . Not fit to live unless paying a special tax?

  5. Do we have any evidence that somebody in the “moderate” muslim community actually dropped a dime on these yahoos, or cooperated proactively in any other way? I’d like to believe it to be so, but it’s getting to the point that some proof would be welcome.

  6. I wonder if the would-be terrorists know that they are unlikely to hurt anyone by derailing a Via train, except maybe the crew.

  7. Al-Queada with support of Iran????
    A Shiite country supporting a Sunni terrorist orginization????
    Next thing you know the protestant and catholic irish will be holding communal bake sales.
    I would guess that this little tidbit is a bit a false information in an attempt to further opposition to Iran…probably put forward by U.S. interests.
    Otherwise a great operation by all involved in stopping terrorism.

  8. This should have been titled:” Viewers Subjected To Cruel And Unusual Punishment” or maybe ” Injuries Severe As Police Try To Pat Their Own Backs At Press Conference.”
    Honestly, I was watching this on Fox News and I was embarrassed to be a Canuck. Everyone there gave a dissertation on what was the Canadian way and thanked themselves and everyone down to their caddy (in both languages) before coming out with the names and ages of the two, that they were not Canadian citizens, and that they planned to derail (not blow up)a Via train. Couldn’t tell us how they were caught, where they were from and how they were planning on doing this or even the bridge that it was going to happen on. It was a waste of a half hour as far as I’m concerned.
    Just like the American leftoids that are now saying the cops used too much force in getting the Boston terrorists (seriously), our bleeding heart progressives will be poking around searching for root causes of why Ahmed’s buddies tried to kill a bunch of via passengers.

  9. Why were these people, foreigners, in Canada? Did they have residence permits? Did they come and go on tourist visas or were they “students”. How did they support themselves? What were there nationalities? They didn’t mention religion (hint).
    The press conference could have

  10. Well Revnant your the hammer with that mouthful. Hard to argue that run on sentence called Islam.
    Peace!

  11. Uh, this is a rhetorical question, j’espere 🙂
    Note to Kate: Is there a way to display the replies as a chain of unified posts?

  12. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Iranians have repeatedly supported AQ if they see a way to benefit from it…

  16. I was responding to Phantoms comment; specifically “A lot of the doctors in city hospitals across Canada are Muslim. They’re reading your x-rays, checking your blood tests, sewing you up after hockey. You should think about that the next time you get sick.”
    Have not ever had a problem, even as a child, being ignored at an appointment with a doctor-those were my first encounters with sharia law enforcement in a hospital/doctors office setting. I don’t think it a mere coincidence.
    Don’t see you questioning what Phantom’s comment has to do with terrorism.
    Sling: I wouldn’t comment on run on sentences when your own respnse contains errors-it’s not “your” but “you’re” the hammer. Your is possesive.

  19. LuckyLori said: “Phantom you’re incredibly naive and gullible.”
    Seems like that, so far on this thread.
    Then LuckyLori said: “I was ignored and all conversation regarding my reason for being there was directed at my husband…”
    Did you say “HEY!!! I’M OVER HERE!!!” That’s how you handle guys who ignore you. Wave and raise your voice. Works awesome.
    Oh and by the way, did you get better? That’s the measure of a doctor, not how they talk in an office visit.
    LuckyLori also said: “I was told I had to remove my shoes at a walk-in clinic where a Muslim doctor and other non-Muslim doctors were practicing…”
    Did you laugh in their face and leave your shoes on? I would have.
    Acknowledging the brave and righteous actions of some individuals does not excuse or ignore the stupid and unacceptable actions of others. The fact that some guys stepped up and acted like proper Canadians doesn’t mean you’re supposed to tolerate rude horsesh1t from others.
    One would think this is taken as read. I’m surprised to have to spell it out.

  20. Remarkable timing, “alleged plot”, political atmosphere is charged with Islamic terror hunts – doesn’t pass the sniff test. Cui bono? KanuK DHS coming? Kanuck TSA? More travel and security restrictions? Unwarranted e-mail mail reading/pone tapping/expanded police powers? KanuKi spooks envious of the martial law gear up state side?

  21. Doubtful, in my considered submission. He’s a Quebecker, don’t you know, which makes him, er, superior, in his mind. Self-importance and self-absorption are not generally ready companions of self-mockery, in my experience. So my read is that self-mockery has got to be a bit beyond the pale for him — especially in English.
    Since self-mockery would implicitly admit the possibility of external criticism, and since he’s not really a self-mocking type for the reasons suggested, I’m guessing that he would not admit to external critics. Which would confound the strategy you suggested.
    An interesting idea, though. Thank you for sharing it.

  22. Imagine my shock when I discovered the culprits weren’t Swedish Methodists.

  23. Sorry, RD, I’m a bit confused: are you speaking, in the last paragraph, of Muslims, or Quebec?

  24. When I read LuckyLori’s comment regarding the footwear two thoughts immediately came to mind. First, anger which would have resulted in a hearty laugh and a firm no. Second, a perfect opportunity to challenge the absurdity of the Human Rights racket.
    But I digress, Go CSIS – Keep up the good work!

  25. It’s our fault for not reaching out to these people more.
    I know this because St. Justin said so.

  26. This is all too vague right. “Support” from AQ elements can mean anything. I want to know exactly what.

  27. I suppose the last part could include Quebec. Only after their independence will we truly know.
    I will make a prediction though. They will not be “French” much longer in that province at the birth levels now only being exceeded by the deaths of its population. Not including its replacements from other Nations.
    Like the Indians, the gravy train from English Canadians is about to collapse.
    The newcomers will laugh in their faces.
    Something they will not face as the coming reality.

  29. As stated in my response, I said, “Excuse me, I can speak for myself”. As for the shoes, he doesn’t allow you in his examining room with them on-I opted for the disposable paper slippers over the shoes-you don’t get to choose which doctor you want to see at walk-ins. Any complaint by me would have no doubt been seen as racist Islamophobia coupled with unthankfulness for the Muslim doctors who come here to assist in alleviating our doctor shortage (that could also be alleviated by increasing the number of seats in medical training institutions accross the country).
    A good doctor asks the paitient what is wrong-it’s not like I was unconcious, couldn’t speak, or having a stroke. What you’re really saying is the ends justify the means, and that we’re all ignoring Muslims medical contribution to our society-shame on us.
    I get that you’re offended by the accusation of gullibility and naivty. Chastising us all for not lining up to offer our thankfulness to the Muslim community for their co-operation in ensuring their more zealous members didn’t kill us via a terrorist attack is equally condescending and offensive. They’re simply doing what is expected of all Canadians by law-the alternative is possibly being arrested for being complicit, obstructing justice, and very likely an indepth investigation of the mosque members after the fact. I wouldn’t call co-operating with the RCMP bravery-again what is the alternative?
    The RCMP and the press are doing a fine job of handing out the accolades for said co-operation. I am thankful to the RCMP and CSIS for thwarting this attack and possibly others.

  30. ratt said..”Is Camp Counsellor anything like a Community Organizer ?” Sorta. except as a camp counsellor,the Shiny Pony did learn how to find the root causes for screaming,whining brats. Should serve him well with the leftards. BTW,just what is a community organizer?
    As to the arrest of these two jackasses,under surveillance for a YEAR???? Oh wait. Forgot the time needed for Timmie’s and doughnuts.

  32. You know it’s bad when Phantom is the area voice of reason in a echo-chamber of MOOLSIMS UNDER My BEd. Your chances of being killed in a terrorist attack are infinitesimal as are the chances of any particular Muslim being a terrorist. Grow up and shut up. And quit it with this whining on how nobody mentions Islam in the news. Only the news outlets in your head are suppressing mention of Islam.

  34. Tip of the iceberg. Canadians should be demanding closer scrutiny of immigration as well as the teaching centers under the banner of the region of peace. Let’s not fool ourselves by patting authorities on the back even if deserved for this work. Increased and constant diligence is required to keep Canadians safe. Call a spade a spade if required and fouck the PC crowd.
    bverwey

  35. So that tiny risk is outweighed by the overwhelming benefits Islam has to offer the West?

  37. I think this covers your question quite well.
    http://www.csis-scrs.gc.ca/prrts/trrrsm/index-eng.asp
    The most visible aspect of terrorist activity is physical violence; however, the absence of violence here at home does not mean the absence of terrorist activity. Most activities in Canada support actions elsewhere linked to homeland conflicts, and are relatively subtle in nature. These activities include:
    providing a convenient base for terrorist supporters and operatives;
    fundraising;
    lobbying through front organizations;
    propagating hate and ideologies that incite and perpetuate violence;
    recruiting fighters for wars and conflicts abroad;
    procuring weapons and materiel;
    coercing and manipulating immigrant communities;
    facilitating transit to and from the United States and other countries, and
    other illegal activities.
    Top of Page
    Violence on Canadian Territory
    The absence, to date, of terrorist violence on Canadian territory does not preclude the possibility of a terrorist attack. Canada’s solidarity with the United States and other Western democracies in the fight against terrorism has rendered Canada a potential target. For this reason, the intelligence, law enforcement and security communities have been working in close collaboration to identify and apprehend terrorists and thus prevent a terrorist attack from ever occurring in Canada.
    Identifying and apprehending terrorists is more challenging than ever. Sunni Islamic extremists such as the members of the Al Qaeda network, for example, are often well-educated in specialized fields such as computer science, biochemistry and engineering. They are security-conscious, well-funded and resourceful. They use sophisticated technology, enhanced by encryption and steganography (the concealment of the existence of messages), to communicate worldwide and to transfer funds electronically. Furthermore, they are masterful at exploiting the media to influence public opinion, and at using democratic institutions to further their cause or to avoid just penalty.
    Top of Page
    Domestic Terrorism
    While CSIS dedicates most of its counter-terrorism resources to religious extremism, which the Government of Canada considers to be the most serious threat to the safety of Canadians, the Service also continues to monitor individuals and organizations that might be involved in other forms of terrorism, such as:
    state-sponsored terrorism;
    domestic terrorism (which includes the threat or the use of violence by groups advocating for issues such as the environment, anti-abortion, animal rights, anti-globalization, and white supremacy, and the dissemination of militia messages by groups in the United States); and
    secessionist violence.

  38. Lucky Lori, I fully agree with your comments and can understand your reaction to your treatment by muslim doctors. I, too, think Phantom is incredibly naive as you just have to look around to see the inroads islam is making in our society.
    Mosques in our public schools fully segregating the girls contrary to our Human Rights Act.
    Halal food for all muslim and non-muslim in the school cafeterias
    Muslim only prayer rooms in businesses I know of in Toronto
    Foot baths and prayer rooms at several of our airports for muslims only
    Muslim imams being ejected from Toronto High Schools for teaching the hatred of Jews and infidels
    Public swimming pools closed for women only swimming, father refused permission to watch his own daughter swimming
    Calgary mosques teaching hatred for our freedoms, exactly as they do in Europe, don’t interact with the kaffir.
    And this is only beginning to happen. Muslims bring nothing we need to Canada and everything we don’t. Name a country that is better off with Islam.

  39. Just what you said, Occam. This is ‘the moment’ that the TSA come to your town. We don’t have a Bill of Rights or a Constitution, as do Americans, to protect us.

  40. So that tiny risk is outweighed by the overwhelming benefits Islam has to offer the West?
    More specifically, the benefits of immigration yes that is a correct summation.
    Most activities in Canada support actions elsewhere linked to homeland conflicts, and are relatively subtle in nature. These activities include: blah blah blah
    A government agency writes a report that hypes banal and ill-defined activities in an attempt to justify its own funding and mandate. News at 11.
    And this is only beginning to happen.
    Wash your pants they’re soaked. With urine. Just leave immigration alone.

  41. Hey Las you don’t happen to live in London Ont do you? I’m guessing no.
    They sure aren’t under my bed, but one was arrested two doors down from my friends house for building triggers for bombs, and was it one or two young men from London they found in Algeria having fun blowing people up just a little while ago? So I hate to chip away at your reason Las, but the infinite chance you’ve figured out on your “blackboard” needs a little more intellectual work on your part.
    And great here’s an internet hug, and a potential vote for Sharia Law just to be nice, and not offend anybody.
    Hows that enlightened and sophisticated enough for you LAS? Because really the more I see people worry about being “nice” the more it seems we run the danger of being screwed over as a country. You know as of six oclock this evening I never had to think of my daughter taking the train, and having a rabid Muslim blow it off the tracks, yeah it sure beats a dirty bomb in Toronto but there you go- who would have thought?
    I don’t worry about it LAS it’s the prevalence of progressive pussy mentality that gets my goat Which seems to make terrorism more possible not less; even after we have been warned about radical Islam by numerous wise people that can express issues of importance much better than me, but more importantly instead of being racist where right instead!
    Only the guilty should feel offended and any Muslim tipping off authorities so we can all be at peace in should understand that, without being patted on the head and handed a gold star.

  42. One false assumption is that Muslim community is like any other with some extremists. I would advise anybody formulating an opinion on that false assumption to check the depth of hate for everything Western within Muslim communities. Just make sure you are not taking answers at face value.

  43. Is Justin the Shiny Pony going to look for the root cause and give these young men a hug

  44. LAS you must be related to the shiny pony. Same silly arrogance. You like to tell others what we should think. Or how stupid we are. I’m much too old for that liberal bs. And you’re not near smart enough to preach to anybody. Don’t bother replying. I’m not interested in anything you have to say, and I’ve already used up my two posts for this thread.

  45. Las wrote:

    “…as are the chances of any particular Muslim being a terrorist.”

    Ok but what are the chances of any particular terrorist being Muslim? Fairly high I’d say. One could even say that Muslims are “over-represented in the terrorist community”.
    How many attacks have our security services stopped, that we know of, over the past 10 years? Jihadis are a growing problem and worthy of public attention.

  46. Oh Jupiter Crackers….
    Honest to God, the twits who vote for a “camp counsellor” are as intelligent as those who would vote in a “community organiser” twice.
    Why, exactly, does anyone have to give appropriate notice to Islamic groups? How about a ham at Christmas?

  47. Well said Phantom.
    Agreed. No sense stereotyping people. I know a lot of Muslims who left the Middle East specifically because of the fanatics who were ruining things and corrupt government officials. They want nothing to do with Sharia law, terrorism or whatever. Sadly a few people get involved, but that’s no way to treat an entire group.
    As a friend said, when I was hit by an IED, it was by Muslim fanatics, when I woke up Muslims were trying to save my life because I was their brother.

  48. Someone on another site summed it up like this:
    Radical Muslims want to kill you.
    Moderate Muslims want radical Muslims to kill you.
    Probably an overstatement, but close enough. After years of experience it should be obvious that permitting Muslim immigration has no upside and considerable downside. The biggest downside is not the importation of terrorists, terrorist sympathizers and budding terrorists, it is the corrosion of our institutions and social values. Islam is fundamentally hostile to the principles of Western society – free speech, democracy, religious freedom, rights of women, etc, etc. The more we accommodate this primitive 7th century death cult the more we surrender our own society.

  49. the infinite chance you’ve figured out on your “blackboard” needs a little more intellectual work on your part.
    Um nope. I used a little something called ‘basic math’ to arrive at my conclusions and your whingy response did nothing to debunk it. Again, check your pants for yellow.
    LAS you must be related to the shiny pony. Same silly arrogance. You like to tell others what we should think. Or how stupid we are.
    Oh God, the unself-awareness, the irony…
    Muslims are “over-represented in the terrorist community”.
    Given how small the terrorist community is it doesn’t really matter.

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