If there were a referendum in Canada, asking whether all citizens should be treated equally or whether one group should have extraordinary powers and hold a veto over everyone else’s wishes, how might that vote turn out?
One thus has to wonder why Thomas Mulcair and the NDP are toying around with the idea of a future Canada divided along ethnic lines?
John Ivison examines the strange happenings in the NDP “braintrust” in Ottawa. He also discusses the issue with Charles Adler. David Akin and Brian Lilley also discuss it here.
It’s all very well and good to give people ownership of the land they live on but I’ll be damned if I’m going to let the likes of the UN dictate anything to me. Furthermore, we already have a multi-tiered legal system (re: sentencing circles) and political multiculturalism which has already divided citizens along cultural or racial lines. Can it get worse or should I even ask?
I put this up in the reader’s tips earlier. The smaller map on the right of the page shows the ‘traditional’ land that the natives have claimed, highlighted in green.
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/ca.htm
Also at the Sun site,John Robson talks about the UN indigenous rights resolution,the native veto,and the progressive “braintrust” that embraces both.
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/first-nations-veto/2127465078001
“NDP Braintrust”? I’d say, they are a few trillion neurons short of a braintrust.
Her Majesties Loyal Opposition, one hopes they don’t try to write a cheque on that account.
If it wasn’t for the West’s resource based economy and hard work to get it to market, there wouldn’t be enough in the treasury to cover their Quebecois wages.
Treason through stupidity or malice remains treason.
Time we held some trials, defund the UN, declare it a terrorist organization and then donate our treacherous NPD members to permanent exile there.
It is plain to me these internationalists as they style themselves prefer the rule of un elected bureaucrats, it is only fair to let them have it.
How civilized are you?
How many days from the collapse of services will it take for you to take the law into your own hands?
And start taking what you need to survive?
This is not directly relevant, but the logical flaw of the liberals and the dippers thinking is ,that they can keep stealing with immunity.
That deliberately destroying canadian culture will have no consequences.
We are at a point where the weight of useless government is too much to bear, there are fewer and fewer productive people every year, expectation of equal treatment by the police and courts is gone, we are bankrupt.
Do not steal, your government hates competition.
There is a very thin line between brilliance and insanity. Mulcair proves you can straddle that line and still be a potential leader of a nation. The brilliance has already been proven false and what remains is as close to the destruction of a free economy as only a socialist could approve or envision. God help us all if this man ever held the reigns of power. He would be Obama on steroids and the UN would celebrate for weeks.
It’s painfully obvious, ladies and gentlemen, why this declaration was made by the UN at all. It was another slap in the face to Israel, the last civilized nation left on earth who continue to insist that God’s law be respected by all who dwell in their land. For “indigenous” read “Palestinian,” even though the Palestinians are not natives of the Holy Land but mere squatters, like the Amalekites before them. God’s command for how to deal with the last pack of squatters could not have been clearer, and the hour is late for carrying it out for this one.
Apartheid failed because it didn’t go nearly far enough. South Africa remained dependent on cheap African labour. Israel has learned from South Africa’s example that her only chance for survival was to drive the savages out and replace them with civilized settlers. All it would have taken the South Africans was a little courage—and humility enough to not be too vain to clean their own privies and pick their own apples and grapes.
Never mind.
Thomas Mulcair, another mongrel of a Frog and a Taig of the sort that has plagued Lower Canada since the Famine, isn’t actually interested in sharing power with loyal English Canadians or dividing the country between them. His promise to the rabble he leads is the very same as Pierre Trudeau’s before him—to get revenge on the English for showing up the Irish Catholics and the French for the complete rubbish they are.
He plans to do that by robbing loyal English Canadians of their liberty and wealth, driving them into exile or extinction, and replacing them with a French-speaking rabble more easily controlled by an absolute monarch or caudillo, with no more memory or desire for God’s law or British liberty than they do of visiting the moon.
Apartheid? No indeed. That’s what we have now—if you aren’t a Plateau ponce or a Toronto banker (or imam!) nobody in Ottawa’s bureaucracy cares what you think. The plan is grander than this. Trudeau wanted it all, Mulcair wants it all, and he won’t rest till he gets it.
Doesn’t Kate have a headline along the lines of:
“I’m digging a bunker and home schooling my kids”
This will not end well if WE let them get control
Get activated.
dwright
Link related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q54Oeun4o3I
lyrics on the vid, listen and read…the Offspring
who says Libertarians have no art?
teat sucking Liberals do to keep their grants
clean thrash warning, no cursing involved
dwright
Not only are Mulcair and his scurvy crew hypocrites, they’re sidewinders: OTOH, they decry discrimination and racism while OTO, they promote both so they can get the votes of visible minorities.
They happily and cagily go in both directions at the same time in order to confuse people and, ultimately, strike at their vulnerabilities for votes. You’ll never find the NDP minions on a straight course: Let’s confuse the electorate, obfuscate the issues, and demonize anyone who disagrees with us. That’s their MO.
Robert said “… the idea of a future Canada divided along ethnic lines”
Hmmm….Robert, I think you just gave a perfect definition of leftism. Certainly, one definition in the top 10.
“The debate within the NDP has long been about whether it should seek to govern or remain the moral conscience of the nation.” — John Ivison.
John’s normally not so wrong, and hardly ever in the first line of a column: we can safely predict that the NDP crowd will carry on gazing at each other’s navels ad nauseum (that much is true), but attempting, even as a segue to the column, to characterize them as either a governing or moral alternative is a laugh and a half.
And so is John’s reference to the opinion of the “expert” mentioned — who you gonna believe: a law professor from an Ottawa University or your lyin’ eyes?
Those items notwithstanding, John seems to redeem himself at the end in the column, however: “It is a measure of where the NDP believes itself to be that it is even considering pushing for implementation of the Declaration.” Which I take to mean one or more of the following:
1. The NDP feels that it has been outmaneuvered by the Conservatives for support among FN folks with aspirations for a better life.
2. The NDP feels that it has been outmaneuvered by the Liberals for support among radical left-wing (or reactionary, according to taste) elements among the FN.
3. The NDP realizes that it cannot compete with the Conservatives for majority-population public opinion on the FN or any other issue substantive issue, and therefore feels it must now re-engage in its age-old habit of pandering to enough special interest groups within the entitlement community to remain electorally viable (the old back-to-the-future strategy).
Oh, sorry, that’s not right — recognition of any of these developments would require something akin to rational observation and analysis skills, plus a working knowledge of the real world — items in seriously short supply among those of the NDP persuasion. I guess I can’t really say where the NDP believes itself to be — maybe John could be more specific.
Bolshevik truth is whatever advances their agenda.
And while we’re on the subject of symmetrical absurdity and/or credulous oxymoronics, have a look at:
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/01/26/conrad-black-thomas-mulcair-promotes-an-odious-species-of-federalism/
if you haven’t already seen it.
You’re right, babt, about the forked-tongue approach of the NDP. However, they haven’t quite mastered the fine art to which the Liberals have managed to raise it — sending two people out there at precisely the same time to deliver two diametrically-opposed positions. I still remember John Manley out there bashing the Monarchy, while Sheila Copps was out there extolling its virtues. Oh, well, “Conscription if necessary…”
For what it is worth, Washington state had a similar vote in 1997 and Initiative 200 passed easily.
=Our news organizations almost all opposed that civil rights measure, but we did learn some things before the vote. Here are two that may have parallels elsewhere:
The principal beneficiaries of the privileges in contracting were wealthy white women — almost all of them married to wealthy white men. (Washington is a community property state.)
Japanese Americans did get special treatment in contracting, but not in admissions to our colleges and universities. So they were simultaneously treated as white and non-white.
The media party may not like to admit it, but the NDP have always been an extremist group.
dwright, the theme song for the Right “showing up to riot” should be this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kazwE_4Vv84 – Steve Harris’s lyrics sum up the current political and judicial situation perfectly. Iron Maiden – Age of Innocence. I know the musical genre may not be to all of your tastes but the message is clear and bang on.. politicians and their hollow promises indeed!
Not sure if Israel is ‘God-based.’
In fact, much of the criticism from the surrounding people make a distinction between ‘God-based’ and Zionist, the latter being political rather than religious.
Where am I wrong?
New Delusional Party.
Actually Slater makes the best explaination for the inspiration behind the UN declaration.
The NDP is so unenlightened and thoughtless, that they never think more than 1 move at a time….or the “unforseen” consequences…
1 consequence that the NDP has overlooked is that their newfound base, Quebec, is not very sympathetic to FN aspirations….in fact from the top down are very hostile.
That’s a very good point. It’s what Thomas Sowell causes “Stage One Thinking”. It’s all driven by emotions and is endemic with the Left.
Well, that oughtta tie up the stupid/low information vote…
soccermom…exactly.Unfortunately,the stupid/low info crowd seem to be the majority right now. Just look at Queerbeker and set you free,etc.When are we small c conservatives going to learn that we are in a cultural war,and playing Mr.Nice Guy doesn’t work?
Yes, that’s how Obama got re-elected. Good news for Canada is the dumb knucklehead vote gets split a few ways…
Apartheid and oppressive race based pogroms is always the end product of identity group politics. Contrary to the street sloganeering and deceptively manufactured public image which the left brandish at their critics, they are more race obsessed than the nebulous bigotry they claim to be fighting. Their race based/identity based public policy is not only factionalizing, polarizing and civilly reprehensible which leads to social tribalism, but the amount of hypocritical propaganda it takes to camouflage the ugly reality of race-based politics takes virtually all the imagination, vision and intellect the left can muster and diverts it into a public disinformation project rather than solution crafting.
IMHO this has rendered the left entirely useless in not only running a cohesive nation, but as effective opposition to the government. Mulcair is just the latest face man for a political front that has become civilly and socially irrelevant due to the adoption of cripplingly bad policy based in errant dystopian ideologies.
Those who are familiar with my rants on this site may be surprised to learn that there was a time in my life when I was a unionist and NDP officer. Fortunately for me, I matured intellectually and got beyond the reactionary emotionalism which the left/NDP uses to attract the naively idealistic, and I became a staunch practitioner of reason and practical libertarianism. One of the things that turned me from the NDP was the influx of leftist radicals who supplanted the trade unionists at the policy levels. The NDP IMHO became irrelevant to the working class when radical left revisionist ideologies and methods gained prominent influence in the party. Today, because private sector unions have virtually abandoned the NDP, this radicalism has grown to a point where the NDP has adopted soft neo-Marxist agendas and tarted them up as “people programs”. Add to this the Bolshi street politik so prominent in public sector unions who own the NDP now and you can understand why so much of what the party says and does seems like rebranded Soviet deconstructionism of western institutions. Objective historic record states Marxism failed its greatest experiments (field tests) in environments in which proletariat collectivist statism could have been viable. So, today Marxist solutions have even less viability as any alternative governing system/policy in the free capitalist nations. In short the NDP are marketing a rotting corpse as a national solution with cosmetics and disinformation, this takes so much effort that there is no time to formulate practical applicable public policy solutions – making them irrelevant to positive social cohesion and the healthy evolution of this nation.
@1:42 – “…Palestinians are not natives of the Holy Land but mere squatters, like the Amalekites before them. God’s command for how to deal with the last pack of squatters could not have been clearer, and the hour is late for carrying it out for this one.”
Is it just me, or does anyone else find calls for genocide to be in somewhat questionable taste?
I’m not sure what prompted you to smear me.
All I was pointing out is that Zionism is not the same as Judaism. Also, the people who perpetrated violent acts before the UN granted statehood to Israel were not doing it for some greater religious purpose.
I’ll let other here decide who’s part of the ‘stupid/low info crowd.’ I’d rather deal with facts than with stupid, lowbrow smears.
Also, what the NDP may not realize is that apartheid was modelled on the Canadian reserve system, so I’m sure once that fact comes out, there would be many exploding heads.
I apologize, on behalf of all Canadians, for being named David.
On the other hand, genocide is abhorrent to the English-speaking peoples. I speak English.
And this has been PM Harper’s strength. Compared to Stage One Thinking, PM Harper is a master strategist. He’s outmanoeuvered these idiots, which makes them mad as hell. Sometimes, you just have to smile.
At its heart the NDP has always been a classed party with communist aspirations. If not inherently bigoted. It ends up depopulating Provinces, while whipping Industries bloody. As they pillage any economy for their own personnel enrichment.
While pretending its for the “little” people. Mean while they wither in a pseudo slavery to a party for crumbs, as the productive people are by tax theft robbed. While hope is by the real poor are robbed as well, from any hope of advancement threw work or invention.
After all we have the lottery for them.
Well ideally you should be apologizing on behalf of all Davids for your unfortunate (and no doubt entirely innocent) connection to a certain pudgy little amoral trust-fund social climbing eunuch, but I greatly appreciate the good thought, Mr. Southam.
On the other hand, as babt well knows, it’s not really advisable to apologize your way into a legally indefensible position.
As to the pudgy stuff, I’m more with Lazenby — “On Her Majesty’s Secret Service”, which I absolutely would do, for Queen and Country, to whom — both — I am absolutely loyal.
Questionable taste? I suppose you’d find a picture of a wolf after a farmer’s put it down in questionable taste. I’d find it in even worse taste to print a picture of the the wolf eating the farmer’s baby daughter for its supper.
I’ll spare you the details of the fun a gang of Amalekites would cheerfully have with Jewish women unable to escape or resist capture, if the land of Israel (God forbid) fell into their hands—except to propose that from the safety of Canada you can talk such bollocks because you’re reasonably certain nothing like that will ever happen to you.
If you don’t like the sight of blood, nobody will hold that against you. Merely stay out of the way of the men when they do what they need to do. A million Amalekite savages are not worth a hair on a Christian child’s head. You know that, I know that, everyone here knows that.
It can at least be said of wolves that they only kill for food, and never rebelled against God’s dominion. Nobody expects a wolf to know any better. That’s more than can be said for an Amalekite suicide-bomber.
I still can’t decide whether you’re a moby troll or just a straightforward maniac.
The NDP is not the “moral conscience of the nation”.
The fundamental moral principle of a civilized society is that no one has the right to initiate the use of force or fraud on any other person. The NDP do not follow this principle; they are looters who for the most part disrespect the producers of the nation.
Definitely maniac…
Occam, you are full of crap. Mulcair is the most right wing leader the NDP have ever had. Your characterization of the NDP as some kind of marxist monolith is nonsense. Regardless, most private sector unions support the NDP because they know that there is no real alternative…the Liberals are a right wing party that campaigns from the left and the Conservatives are so far to the right that they are blinded by their own ideology… Cons prefer to attack the NDP for being socialists even though they’re the ones selling Canada to China.
Yes, Harper is a master strategist… for selling out Canada to China.
Uh, then there’s former PM Chretien (check out the Sidewinder Report) and Maurice Strong — who’s still holed up in China, as far as I know. Two more sleazy scumbags I can’t imagine. ‘Talk about selling out Canada.
The facts are, no country can ignore China as a trading partner. PM Harper is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. I wonder where you are on the spectrum, Iberia, when you accuse the CPC of being “so far to the right …” blah, blah, blah? ‘Any justification for that garbage?
Well, you may well be right that Mulcair is the most right wing leader the NDP has had. But from where I sit, that’s damning with faint praise: I suppose it would also be true that Stalin was more right wing than Trotsky, or something.
And you may well be right that a number of private sector union leaders have been active in the NDP in the past, although it’s mostly public sector union leaders who have the big profiles now. I doubt it’s true at all that even most private sector union members vote for the NDP — in fact, the research shows that most vote for the governing party of the day, whether Conservative or Liberal nationally or in Ontario.
As for the Nexen deal, your over-reaching comment is not correct: Mr. Harper didn’t sell anything — we was asked by the shareholders, directors and officers of Nexen to approve an offer of purchase for some paper financial securities in the company, which happens to currently hold some occupancy privileges, given by one or more provincial governments, that allow it, for the time being, to develop and exploit certain resources in exchange for royalty payments to those provincial governments. Quite apart from which, you’d need to reconcile for me how the Conservatives are blinded by ideology, but still manage to approve a deal involving a state-owned enterprise from a nominally communist country.
How are the Cons blinded by their ideology? Aside from being typical right wing authoritarians, they are also all about the money. Just like a prostitute, they will do whatever it takes to get the money…for themselves and for their corporate enablers. Screw Canada and Canadians.
Please make our day and tell us who you see handling our economy in a more efficient manner than the Conservatives have, and why.
The Cons are doing a great job, taking nine consecutive years of Liberal budget surpluses and a national debt of $536 billion in 2006 to deficit budgets and increasing the debt to $641 billion in 2012. Keep telling yourself that they are great fiscal managers.
So, basically you are saying it’s lucky for them that they managed to bail before the world economy crashed ? The Liberals were riding the same bubble the USA was and what life was like prior to 2008 has little bearing on economic management since then. From a financial standpoint, the only ones mourning the demise of the Liberal party is the UN, the tree huggers and Kyoto hopefuls. If the Libs were in power now the whole country would look like the basket case called Ontario.
But, but…Harper said there would not be a recession. And after whittling away the surplus with tax cuts, he had to run a deficit. Some economist.
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/columnists/story.html?id=21506853-dac2-4c02-a6b5-9704fe47d9fc
You are still quoting 2008. Give me negatives since then. Everything we took for granted crashed in 2008. Still crashing in the USA. Compared to them we still look pretty good and it will buy us time when they collapse completely.
Negatives since 2008? They have all been negative since 2008.
http://viableopposition.blogspot.ca/2012/03/canadas-debt-and-deficit-history.html
In any case, if and when the US goes down the toilet, we have no margin to buy us time, thanks to useless tax cuts that stimulated nothing and lack of foresight to charge appropriate royalties for our natural resources.
As your link shows,all our trading partners are in the tank. At least Harper is trying to increase trade with the countries that are still solvent and expanding. The biggest obstacle we have are the foam at the mouth, granola crunching tree huggers that view anything relating to oil or income as something that must be stopped, as well as all the deadbeats called first nations that feel empowered to stop anything that looks like it might make the money to fund the 10 billion dollar black hole called Indian affairs. These are difficult times and Harper is still the best man to steer the ship. One look at the NDP or Liberal Candidates is enough to make me wonder where we would be under their leadership. More social program spending i.e. Obama, is all they are promising with nothing mentioned on the mess that the free word economies are in. You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but if you think the tax and spend alternatives will take us out of this mess I believe you would be in for a rude awakening.
peterj, you are a perfect example of cognitive dissonance. Dear Fat Leader blew a surplus to give trivial tax cuts that did not create growth; refused to accept a world economic crisis until threatened with a non confidence vote; spent stimulus money on stupid pork barrel projects in Conservative ridings rather than invest in deteriorating infrastructure; and, he has done nothing to solidify Canada’s economic position with inferior trade agreements that ignore Canadian sovereignty or the environment. Giving away our natural resources is not the road to prosperity.
Perhaps you should note how the Scandinavian countries, despite having high taxes and comprehensive social programs, are still the top performing economies in the world.