35 Replies to “America’s Newest Terrorist Suspect”

  1. It is written into the Constitution, that senators and congressmen cannot be arrested on their way to their respective house to do business (only under extenuating circumstances, like in the commission of a felony). For obvious reasons.

  2. This one is hard to call. Rand Paul is a well known Islamist and his ties to Al-Qaeda,Hamas,Hezbollah,The Muslim Brotherhood,and the Republican Party are enough to make any good TSA employee suspicious.
    I see they’re still adhering to the old Tom Ridge motto,”we’ll check the 80 year old Grandmother from Iowa as much as the 19 year old Saudi devout Muslim”.
    Al-Qaeda won this war.They’ve turned America into a police State.
    Maybe Obama should bow a little deeper next time.

  3. This should be a deal breaker for the TSA methods.
    “The Senators and Representatives…shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same….” according to Article I, Section 6.”
    The intent was to prevent legistlators from being detained to manipulate voting on legistlation. The framer envisioned/anticipated the possibility of an unscrupulous government from effecting the outcome of Congress by detaining members or Senators.
    Much like many, many aspects of the US Constitution this was deliberated framed to limit government power.
    The TSA is a division of Homeland Security, an agency of the executive not Congress….also involved in the GUN WALKER SCANDAL.
    Paul should have called the US MARSHALLs…maybe he did…

  4. Down with political correctness! Down with overpaid simpleton government TSA employees! Down with big-government nanny statism protecting every aspect of our lives! Lower my taxes and fire these TSA agents!
    I’m looking for investors for my new airline: Porkrind-Vodka Airways. Who’s with me?
    Ron Paul 2012 !

  5. Black guy in Video #1 – “If I gotsta go through it, he’s gotta go through it”.
    Yup, you’re just as important and well known as a sitting US Senator.
    The fact is Mr. “where’s my respect” that this senator is actually protesting on your behalf, because your obviously too stupid to do so yourself.

  6. This one is hard to call. Rand Paul is a well known Islamist and his ties to Al-Qaeda,Hamas,Hezbollah,The Muslim Brotherhood
    dmorris at January 24, 2012 1:13 PM
    I’m no Paul family fan, but is this really true? All-problems-are-the-fault-of-US-foreign-policy appeasement for sure. But ties?
    I’m actually 100% onside of the Paul family on the encroaching Police State. One need only look at the recently-passed Military Autorization Act to put paid to any contrary view. First they came for us with The Patriot Act and we did not …
    And notice the passenger’s view: WE HAVE TO, so so should the senator. There’s police-state conditioning in caps.
    This is extremely unfair but am I the only one to find a disturbing likeness between Paul (pere and fils) and Lee Harvey Oswald.
    I know with absolute certainty that there’s a random element in these searches. I own a “trusted traveller” card here in BC. I ride my motorcycle in WA a LOT. On one crossing I was pulled in for secondary inspection — which lasted for about 2 hours. I believe the random selection was based on the licence plate #.

  7. I freakiest thing is the total acceptance of physical violations at the airport by regular citizens. I mean, even hyper vigilant and suspicious moms are allowing their small children to be groped.
    Look how sheep-like the whole population is. To me, that is the most frightening thing of all.

  8. As a frequent flyer I’ve been asked many times in other countries (not the US) to step again through a scanner a second time and then passed due to a faulty first reading.
    I carry absolutely nothing to make a scanner go off and at times have passed through two in transits though different airports then failed on a third in another. Failed for no other reason than increased scanner sensitivity, or faulty beep. The second pass if allowed usually clears it up.

  9. kelly, you don’t know how close to the truth you are.
    “Look how sheep-like the whole population is. To me, that is the most frightening thing of all.”

  10. My frequent travelling companion on my last job had a Nexus pass. I would line up for 30-45 minutes to be screened by customs; she lined up for 2 minutes for a retina scan, and that was it. We still both had to go through security, but her total transit time was usually less than 10 minutes, while mine was almost always an hour.
    You’d think there’d be an object lesson here. But the entire DHS/TSA apparatus seems to be based on a massively ignorant dirigiste attitude, as personified by Joanne “I’m think I’m Napoleon”-ito’s comment about the 9/11 terrorists coming from Canada. Americans everywhere are getting fed up with this assumption that they are terrorists until some bureaucrat clears them – see, e.g. Tim Thomas.
    Ron Paul 2012

  11. I was offended by the security theatre long prior to 911.
    I always ensured my drawers had metal rivets, zipper, held up by a metal belt buckle or suspenders with metal clasps…enhanced by metal dome fasteners on my shirt.
    Because the hand wands gave inconclusive results…the theatre went even further. I relished the embarassment of the security drones, when after a strip search the wand continued to bleep. I have some scars which explain this but these fools usually tried to over-compensate by earnestly advising me to NEVER have an MRI.
    For a time I flew out of Vancouver regularly…the clowns actually recognized me and when the arch beeped, they casually just waved me on…..discretly….I noted the wand waver hit the off button to save time.
    Everybody has to have a hobby.

  12. MND,that was sarcasm.
    I like Rand Paul and was attempting to point out the absurdity of the TSA’s actions. I’m sure they knew damned well who they were dealing with,and merely wanted to assert their authority on someone they hate.
    I used to take my bike down to the U.S. years ago,too,but was always subjected to the third degree by U.S border agents,and went by auto after that.

  13. KevinB>
    “…9/11 terrorists coming from Canada”
    Canada has always been a safe haven for terrorists and war criminals. An inconvenient truth that our Liberal left ignores and by proxy offers a safe haven for these criminals.
    Canada is primarily known as a fund raising sanctuary for foreign terrorism. Although we’ve had our share of close calls domestically.
    Here is a 2004 report by the ADL (Anti Defamation League)
    “There is a growing body of evidence indicating that terrorist groups have been operating effectively in Canada by taking advantage of Canada’s liberal immigration and political asylum policies and the porous Canadian-American border.
    Terrorist-related activities in Canada include fundraising, lobbying through front organizations, providing support for terrorist operations in Canada or abroad, procuring weapons and materiel, coercing and manipulating immigrant communities in Canada, facilitating transit to and from the U.S. and other countries, and other illegal activities.”…………
    …………..” Islamic extremists and their supporters from Al Qaeda, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, Armed Islamic Group (GIA), and Egyptian Islamic Jihad are among those suspected of operating in Canada.”
    http://www.adl.org/terror/tu/tu_0401_canada.asp

  14. There is a growing body of evidence indicating that terrorist groups have been operating effectively in Canada by taking advantage of Canada’s liberal immigration and political asylum policies and the porous Canadian-American border.
    Mustn’t forget those large batches of blank Canadian passports available on the black market until recently…

  15. Consider the outrage if:
    Keith Ellison or
    Barney Frank or
    Bernie Sanders
    Were detained the same way. Obama’s only for enforcing the constitution when he wants to.

  16. Peter >
    “Obama’s only for enforcing the constitution when he wants to.”
    Meaning never.
    Obamba scrapped any semblance of the Constitution with the National Defence Authorization Act (NDAA) on New Years Eve Dec 31 2011.
    A day of shadowed infamy, as the population partied Obamba declared the former United States of America a battlefield with all peoples, citizens or foreign as potential enemy combatants subject to military action as required.

  17. It is a police state with the population submitting to daily indignities. It like living in an occupied Country where they ask to see your ID every day. Only now its gropers pretending to do it for your safety. The Idiots who have been conditioned even agree.
    Most Muslims get a pass in Obamas America. Have you see one ever complain about abuse like this. NO. Because they don’t get targeted as citizens do. This intimidation is designed to break peoples will, to tame them for even bigger outrages in the future.When peoples natural urge to protect their children is suppressed in the name of National security. It game over for your Republic.

  18. we could learn from Sri Lanka’s security…cue car-bombs in the marketplace from the ‘religion of peace’…
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16675086
    Sri Lanka has reportedly ordered 161 foreign Muslim preachers to leave the country for flouting visa regulations.
    A senior immigration official was quoted as saying that the clerics had no right to preach in mosques because they had arrived on tourist visas. He also said that some local Muslims had complained that the visitors were not teaching a moderate form of Islam.

  19. This whole airport “security” theater is going to be exposed for the fraud it is the first time someone ignites a bomb while in line for the scanner, with a full lineup of people both ahead and behind them.

  20. kelly, that’s exactly right. I made a far less impactful observation just above your post.
    dmorris, LOL: Sorry for the misreading. /humility.
    There’s a great line from Randolf Bourne: War is the Health of the State. A lot of people go blank on this, so at the risk of seeming patronizing: war causes the state apparatus to ratchet up; after its conclusion it declines but never back to its previous level, like cyclical corrections in a bull market.
    I think it’s fair to substitue “security” for war above; the libertarian argument against the War on Drugs is also based on this phenomenon.

  21. Check out The Daily Caller with hilarious State of the Union drinking game! I’m sure if followed there will be many,many hangovers tomorrow!

  22. @ Ed Minchau
    Or the first time someone with a stinger missle stands on a highrise and takes down a landing or departing plane. What goes on inside the airports is all show and tell.The scanning is Ok but the gropping belongs in some third world country. These TSA power trips are out of control.

  23. That TSA woman in the background,at 2:20 is butt-ugly.Obama can have her, for free!
    Hell I’d leave rather than let that mutt touch me.. wtf.

  24. Of course knight99, the black guy in the video actually said:
    “If I have to go through it, he should have to go through it, ah, as well.”
    What the dude in the video missed, and what Ron and Rand Paul get, is that no citizen should have to go through it.

  25. It like living in an occupied Country where they ask to see your ID every day
    When I was a kid, and we used to play “Russian Spy”, the most evil, insidious question you got to ask as the Russian secret police was “Papers? May I see your papers?”.
    Depending on your sense of humour on any particular day, it’s either ironic or deeply saddening that, after “winning” the Cold War, all over Canada and the US, various government functionaries feel absolutely no compunction asking for your identification anytime, anywhere, no matter what you’re doing. And because most of us still believe – or perhaps more accurately, still want to believe – in our society, we comply.
    Orwell was right. War is peace. Just ask the Iratians (if not now, wait a couple of months). Ignorance is strength. Just ask Newt. And Freedom is slavery. Ask anyone from DHS/TSA/DOJ/NSA, or whatever alphabet you believe in.

  26. SDH >
    I’m sorry I should have paraphrased.
    “What the dude in the video missed, and what Ron and Rand Paul get, is that no citizen should have to go through it.” – SDH
    The “dude” never made clear why he felt that a sitting Senator deserved equal travel scrutiny as he did, nor do we know that he is even a US citizen as we know Rand Paul is.
    It would be presumptuous possibly even bigoted to assume that he’s an American.
    Is he a criminal with terrorist associations? Are there any requirements to provide proof of citizenship at airports? A driver’s licence or passports are not proof.
    Indeed no citizen should have to go through it that is why they need to stop immigration from Third World countries and profile the demographic that does cause harm to the sovereign soil of any western country.

  27. Are there any requirements to provide proof of citizenship at airports? A driver’s licence or passports are not proof.
    Then, what, pray tell, is? Please, O mighty one, share with us your fool-proof, non-forgeable, non-invasive, fast, and convenient method of establishing citizenship. All of us wait to receive your wisdom.

  28. there is none, as I said.
    Where, precisely, did you say that? You asked:
    Is he a criminal with terrorist associations? If he is, in the US, he’s probably already on the “No Fly” list. Otherwise, I wasn’t aware that either the shoe or underwear bomber had “I’m a terrorist” tattooed on them.
    Are there any requirements to provide proof of citizenship at airports? For foreign travel, yes, and it’s been that way for years. Clearly, you don’t get out much.
    Next, you complained that passports, etc. WERE NOT proof of citizenship. So, what exactly is? My parents are both dead, and I can’t think of a single person who’s still alive who knew me when I was a child in Montreal. As far as anyone in Toronto knows, I could have been born in Kenya and moved to Toronto when I was four. Again, I ask you how does one prove their citizenship without pieces of paper and/or plastic.

  29. KevinB >
    Again you need to go back an read things before you comment *a hint……. “that is why they need to stop immigration….
    I’m still trying to get my head around what kind of loser jumps all over someone with comments like “All of us wait to receive your wisdom.”
    Is that a personality disorder thing? Like a split multiple personality or something else?
    Common man, stand on your own two feet and fight like a free man, not some dependant welfare dreg looking to have a few friends to back you up. It’s a sorry way to disagree with someone.
    I feel for your parents, that is really sad, but definitely not a good defence in an argument, all I can say is sorry for your loss. Your childhood trauma of no friends is also touching defence but not anywhere near relevant to the discussion.
    Your exaggeration that I somehow “complained” about passports makes just about anything you say ridiculous and not worthy of further comment.
    Like what’s up with people like you? Strange, strange strange, enjoy the conversation with “us”.

  30. For others that wish to have an answer to KevinB’s pathetic rant that a passport is proof of citizenship and no other, here is a link to Canada’s application for a Citizen Card. In the US it is a Certificate of Citizenship and in the UK it’s called a CitizenCard. Please note the section “Which documents are accepted as proof of citizenship”, and ask yourself what is missing from the list.
    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/proof.asp
    Yes a passport is used in most cases as proof of citizenship but it is not universally accepted. A citizen card is.
    Passports are travel documents, normally held by citizens but sometimes by dual citizens, or at times by non citizens. Years ago as a Canadian you could obtain a second passport from the UK usually used for more ease of travel in the ME. At one time it was a common practice for Canadian oilfield workers to obtain a UK passport and carry both. I’m not sure if today you can still readily get one, but there has always been a favoured status and sharing between most Commonwealth countries. I have personally met and physically held a legal Canadian passport issued to an Indian national in India. He bragged that he was just like me, but had never stepped a day in his life on Canadian soil, I don’t know the circumstances of how he got one, but he claimed that several of his relatives in India also had one.
    Of course some form of identification is required for proof of citizenship, but all forms of identification can be forged or obtained illegally by people with the means and money. There are plenty of examples of illegally obtained Canadian passports being used for criminal activity. There are plenty of well documented cases over the last 60 years or so available to read on the internet.
    Here is a recent story:
    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20111016/russian-spies-using-canadian-passports-111016/
    The original point I made before being sidelined with lunatic “out of the blue” ad hominem attacks is that there is no 100% secure way to insure that a person at an airport is a citizen, a terrorist, or a spy. The best approach beyond paper credentials is the racial, religious etcetera profiling of whatever demographic is threatening your security. During the troubles in Ireland it was people with an Irish accent or mannerisms that were scrutinized by UK customs, not Muslims. Today in the west its Muslims or people with a Middle Eastern background that need to be scrutinized further.

  31. For others that wish to have an answer to KevinB’s pathetic rant that a passport is proof of citizenship and no other
    Not once, you illiterate fool, did I ever say that a passport is “proof of citizenship and no other”; I ASKED YOU what was, a question you have to yet provide a satisfactory answer to. In fact, you admit that we need passports/identify cards yourself: “Of course some form of identification is required for proof of citizenship”.
    The only other relevant sentence in your original post was the following bit of nonsense: “Indeed no citizen should have to go through it that is why they need to stop immigration from Third World countries and profile the demographic that does cause harm to the sovereign soil of any western country.
    So, by your enlightened standard, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE SAUDI 9/11 PILOTS would have passed into the US without incident, since there had been no Muslim attacks on North American soil at the time. Richard Reid, the shoe bomber, had already passed through EL AL’s profiling and security system before he came to the US. Your proposed solution wouldn’t have worked, and would not work.
    I offer only one comment to your insipid attack on me: what a disjointed, rambling, unsupported piece of nonsense. Try laying off the sauce before posting.

  32. KevinB >
    As I said there is obviously something very wrong with you. You came out of nowhere for no other reason than to personally attack a meaningless comment like a vile little boy. Then you seem to have expected some sort of reasoned debate. For no other apparent reason than you seem to think that you are some sort of “O mighty one” yourself. Me thinks that is called projection and the base reason of your first unusual and uncalled for comment.
    You spin your ludicrous arguments in circles, honestly I have no idea what it was about my post that made you froth, and I have no idea what you are even trying to debate. It’s a disjointed collection of questions.
    Example “So, by your enlightened standard, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE SAUDI 9/11 PILOTS would have passed into the US without incident, since there had been no Muslim attacks on North American soil at the time”
    Again I have no idea what the relevance to my statement has with this ignorant history of Muslim attacks on US interests including the previous attempted bombing of the world trade center in 1993. So as I said trying to debate or reason with you is obviously moot undertaking.
    Since you seemed to have randomly picked me out of the crowd to flame I can go that way as well.

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