I don’t happen to think it is that trivial, from the Article:
Heinz has long been committed to reducing added salt in recipes in line with Government health targets,’ he added.
I will no longer donate to the Heart and stroke foundation, nor will any of my children collect for the annual Jump rope for heart at school anymore.
This foundation has gone from a educational, research group to pressing government agencies to force modify the WHOLE populace for the sake of the single digit % who “may” have an issue.
I have stopped contributing to almost all charities for the same reason. I refuse to allow my money to be spent on lobbyists when it could be used for research.
Wonder how long before all the history books will be changed to remove the fact that people were once paid in salt. Whatever happened to letting people chose what they eat themselves?
I’m just waiting for them to cut the salt content of seasoning salt.
Geez.. better stock up while I still can!
Kind of like Lean Cuisine’s line of “healthy pizzas”. Awful! Lean Cuisine’s “healthy pizzas” taste like tenderized roof shingles.
I’m an adult. If I occasionally choose to treat myself to pizza, I already know it’s high in fat, cholesteral, yadda, yadda. I don’t need some government twerps who majored in Gaian New Age Biology in college to tell me what to eat or not eat.
But didn’t this very same Small Dead Amimals report say “This week a meta-analysis of seven studies involving a total of 6,250 subjects in the American Journal of Hypertension found no strong evidence that cutting salt intake reduces the risk for heart attacks, strokes or death in people with normal or high blood pressure. In May European researchers publishing in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that the less sodium that study subjects excreted in their urine—an excellent measure of prior consumption—the greater their risk was of dying from heart disease. These findings call into question the common wisdom that excess salt is bad for you, but the evidence linking salt to heart disease has always been tenuous.” http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt
Well worth a juxtapositional analysis!!!
Nannies: Lay down your weapons salt and trans fats!
The Fed Up: Come and get them!
Its what I choose to drink when I eat salty food that gets me in trouble.
And your point is, Red Jeff?
When Kate posts a “juxtapose this”, it usually highlights self-contradictory positions taken by the leftist mob, or highlights two news items that cannot both be true.
There’s no such juxtaposition here. Heinz has (stupidly) reduced the salt content in a product that practically nobody consumes in sufficient quantity for it to make much difference in their total salt intake. And the prior story indicates that the “official” concern about salt intake is very possibly misplaced anyway, as a factor in heart disease.
The two stories complement one another. If you thought you had Kate in a “gotcha” moment, think again. Or maybe you weren’t trying to go there, but just worded your post awkwardly.
Time to take up cigarette smoking as a public protest against PC
Dave in Pa – don’t forget to put salt on your pizza. I do. Helps me to get thirsty enough to choke down another beer.
I’m so unimpressed with this turn of events. I don’t know what other sauce I can change to, guess its time to start making my own. DAMN! Well, its made by Heinz, I wont worry to much about changing brands since I love the idea of stopping the financial support of John Kerry anyway.
HAHAHA
sure is gonna ruin bangers now though 🙁
Why don’t we cut a few politicans out of our lives that do these things?
Than maybe we can have a sane World again, when the control freaks are gone.
Usually when companies make changes like this to products, especially on the health theme, it means there’s a smoking lawyer there somewhere, or the product’s not selling and they’re looking for a marketing uptick, or need to clean up the profit picture a bit.
I await the salt-free soya sauce.
What would that even taste like?
I think it was the “prophet-poet” Ecclesiastes who wrote about 4,000 years go: “Nothing new is under the sun…all is vanity”.
Ancient people already figured out that history repeats itself, and I can’t help but being reminded that the contemporary campaign against salt also occurred about 40 years ago. But the new generation of Lefty secular-atheist nutrition fanatics of today would be surprised know that the people who campaigned against salt 40 years ago were certain members of Christian fundamentalist sects!
That’s right you Lefty nitwits, there has been a complete role reversal: the culty fanatics of today are on the liberal Left; and the libertarians are on the Right.
My argument against the anti-salt campaign is the same one that I gave 40 years ago: most of the natural liquids in our body are salinated and the water in our body is salt water. IF YOU GO WITHOUT SALT YOU WILL DIE, and there have been cases of long distance runners and athletes who sweat profusely who have died not because of dehydration, but because of de-salination — it is not enough to drink lots of water, the sodium in your body must also be replaced. That’s why foundry workers and people who work in intense heat and sweat alot are often issued sodium tablets on the job.
Iodized salt also contains an essential mineral, sea salt can be healthy for you, etc etc, and “there’s nothing new under the sun”.
HP sauce? Who cares.
But screw with my Worchestershire sauce and somebody’s gonna to get hurt!
Atric, … I hear you … Wochestershire beats HP.
The HP people re label …..
“HP Sauce just add salt”.
I add salt to everything, lot’s of pepper too …. somethings are worth the risk.
Big gubmint hurts John Kerry.
Poetic.
I find it hilarious that stodgy old HP has some PC warrior making corporate decisions for them that in all likelihood, will crash company profits when the PC salt paranoia meets with the demand curve. HP will lose lots of sales on this stupid deference to junk science.
Of course the logical way to handle the PC salt scare was to offer a reduced salt version as well as a regular version and let demand determine what volumes of what were produced.
But your typical culture warrior (even in the boardrooms of commerce) is basically a fascist and an elitist who allow for no options other than their own ideals. Heh PC capitalism. Deadly combo in the demand curve of free markets
.
Oh get a grip on reality. The company can do whatever it wants to. If it thinks reducing salt will give it a grater share of the market, then that’s their prerogative. If you don’t think any food isn’t salty enough you can add as much as you want.
By reducing the salt they are reducing manufacturing costs by a goodly amount. To make it into a health issue is just a pr bonus. I spent 6 years in product development. Salt is sometimes the most expensive item in a product.
We know from Grade Four health class that people should exercise and eat fruits and vegetables. Sadly, some people don’t follow that advice. Let their doctors admonish them. For those who DO follow that advice but occasionally tuck into some sort of treat, there is no need to raise a red flag. Let adults eat what they want. THEY will pay for it (or not).
It’s pure politics dominating this issue. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has been insisting for nearly 40 years that salt intake should be restricted, and they’ve been so insisting without any evidence supporting their claim.
They’re not about to admit that they’ve been wrong for 40 years. And they can round up at least a few sycophantic wh*res in science to support their claims.
It’s all about grant money. There’s utterly no personal or institutional benefit in finding no harm.
Revnant, don’t be stupid. Politicians are helpless when they’re getting log-rolled by some so-called scientific institution. Do you seriously think the public or media will spring to their defence when they speak out against something that supposedly constitutes a health threat? Politicians tried to speak up in defence of the MMR vaccine and got smoked by an army of Jenny McCarthys backed by a fake science report. Grow up.
HP sauce? What are you supposed to do with that?
If you buy garbage cuts of meat, I’m sure you’d need lots of it to cover the awful taste.
Just add salt.
Free: try A1 sauce, tastes better and has all natural ingredients, no chemistry experiments.
Ricardo: our bodies require numerous electrolytes, not just salt. Check these links for more info: http://www.emedicinehealth.com/electrolytes/article_em.htm http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002350.htm
The essential mineral in iodized salt is iodine, which is added to most table salt. Exceptions are sea salt and Himalayan salt (which used to be sea salt). For some reason, very few brands of either add iodine.
Atric: I like Worchestershire sauce, too, but I prefer A1.
This is HP in the UK. I trust that our HP made in Ontario is not changing.
Occam: But your typical culture warrior (even in the boardrooms of commerce) is basically a fascist
.. and the meme slowly begins to take route..
root, dammit, not “route”.. pushed the button too quickly
If ya really want a scare read the lable on a can of tomato juice or soup…salt/sodium content….
I thought about that after hauling a 49,000 lb. load of “blending salt” into a soup factory….
Join our Facebook group to object to this outrageous invasion by the Nanny State. I am old enough to vote, to go to war, to smoke, to drink and to choose whether I want salt or not!
“I think it was the “prophet-poet” Ecclesiastes who wrote”
Hate to be didactic here, but ecclesiastes means preacher or place of worship. The book was traditionally attributed to King Solomon who was alledged to have written the book in his old age. Over the years the book has been used by Freemasonry, the Birds (60’s group) and on and on.
A1 is yuck.
HP isn’t made in the UK anymore. It is made by the Dutch now. Still great sauce, or was before this.
Allan:
HP with eggs is one of mankind’s greatest collaborations. Whether they are fried, scrambled, or in omelette form, HP adds the perfect sharpness and tanginess in contrapuntal harmony to the eggs’ creamy goodness.
Take some ordinary bread. Toast it. Grate some non-descript cheddar, place it on the toast, and pop under the broiler until the cheese melts. Now, add a dollop of HP. Once again, the sum is greater than the whole of its parts.
Do this in memory of me.
I don’t happen to think it is that trivial, from the Article:
Heinz has long been committed to reducing added salt in recipes in line with Government health targets,’ he added.
I will no longer donate to the Heart and stroke foundation, nor will any of my children collect for the annual Jump rope for heart at school anymore.
This foundation has gone from a educational, research group to pressing government agencies to force modify the WHOLE populace for the sake of the single digit % who “may” have an issue.
I have stopped contributing to almost all charities for the same reason. I refuse to allow my money to be spent on lobbyists when it could be used for research.
Wonder how long before all the history books will be changed to remove the fact that people were once paid in salt. Whatever happened to letting people chose what they eat themselves?
I’m just waiting for them to cut the salt content of seasoning salt.
Geez.. better stock up while I still can!
Kind of like Lean Cuisine’s line of “healthy pizzas”. Awful! Lean Cuisine’s “healthy pizzas” taste like tenderized roof shingles.
I’m an adult. If I occasionally choose to treat myself to pizza, I already know it’s high in fat, cholesteral, yadda, yadda. I don’t need some government twerps who majored in Gaian New Age Biology in college to tell me what to eat or not eat.
But didn’t this very same Small Dead Amimals report say “This week a meta-analysis of seven studies involving a total of 6,250 subjects in the American Journal of Hypertension found no strong evidence that cutting salt intake reduces the risk for heart attacks, strokes or death in people with normal or high blood pressure. In May European researchers publishing in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that the less sodium that study subjects excreted in their urine—an excellent measure of prior consumption—the greater their risk was of dying from heart disease. These findings call into question the common wisdom that excess salt is bad for you, but the evidence linking salt to heart disease has always been tenuous.” http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt
Well worth a juxtapositional analysis!!!
Nannies: Lay down your weapons salt and trans fats!
The Fed Up: Come and get them!
Its what I choose to drink when I eat salty food that gets me in trouble.
And your point is, Red Jeff?
When Kate posts a “juxtapose this”, it usually highlights self-contradictory positions taken by the leftist mob, or highlights two news items that cannot both be true.
There’s no such juxtaposition here. Heinz has (stupidly) reduced the salt content in a product that practically nobody consumes in sufficient quantity for it to make much difference in their total salt intake. And the prior story indicates that the “official” concern about salt intake is very possibly misplaced anyway, as a factor in heart disease.
The two stories complement one another. If you thought you had Kate in a “gotcha” moment, think again. Or maybe you weren’t trying to go there, but just worded your post awkwardly.
Time to take up cigarette smoking as a public protest against PC
Dave in Pa – don’t forget to put salt on your pizza. I do. Helps me to get thirsty enough to choke down another beer.
I’m so unimpressed with this turn of events. I don’t know what other sauce I can change to, guess its time to start making my own. DAMN! Well, its made by Heinz, I wont worry to much about changing brands since I love the idea of stopping the financial support of John Kerry anyway.
HAHAHA
sure is gonna ruin bangers now though 🙁
Why don’t we cut a few politicans out of our lives that do these things?
Than maybe we can have a sane World again, when the control freaks are gone.
Usually when companies make changes like this to products, especially on the health theme, it means there’s a smoking lawyer there somewhere, or the product’s not selling and they’re looking for a marketing uptick, or need to clean up the profit picture a bit.
I await the salt-free soya sauce.
What would that even taste like?
I think it was the “prophet-poet” Ecclesiastes who wrote about 4,000 years go: “Nothing new is under the sun…all is vanity”.
Ancient people already figured out that history repeats itself, and I can’t help but being reminded that the contemporary campaign against salt also occurred about 40 years ago. But the new generation of Lefty secular-atheist nutrition fanatics of today would be surprised know that the people who campaigned against salt 40 years ago were certain members of Christian fundamentalist sects!
That’s right you Lefty nitwits, there has been a complete role reversal: the culty fanatics of today are on the liberal Left; and the libertarians are on the Right.
My argument against the anti-salt campaign is the same one that I gave 40 years ago: most of the natural liquids in our body are salinated and the water in our body is salt water. IF YOU GO WITHOUT SALT YOU WILL DIE, and there have been cases of long distance runners and athletes who sweat profusely who have died not because of dehydration, but because of de-salination — it is not enough to drink lots of water, the sodium in your body must also be replaced. That’s why foundry workers and people who work in intense heat and sweat alot are often issued sodium tablets on the job.
Iodized salt also contains an essential mineral, sea salt can be healthy for you, etc etc, and “there’s nothing new under the sun”.
HP sauce? Who cares.
But screw with my Worchestershire sauce and somebody’s gonna to get hurt!
Atric, … I hear you … Wochestershire beats HP.
The HP people re label …..
“HP Sauce just add salt”.
I add salt to everything, lot’s of pepper too …. somethings are worth the risk.
Big gubmint hurts John Kerry.
Poetic.
I find it hilarious that stodgy old HP has some PC warrior making corporate decisions for them that in all likelihood, will crash company profits when the PC salt paranoia meets with the demand curve. HP will lose lots of sales on this stupid deference to junk science.
Of course the logical way to handle the PC salt scare was to offer a reduced salt version as well as a regular version and let demand determine what volumes of what were produced.
But your typical culture warrior (even in the boardrooms of commerce) is basically a fascist and an elitist who allow for no options other than their own ideals. Heh PC capitalism. Deadly combo in the demand curve of free markets
.
Oh get a grip on reality. The company can do whatever it wants to. If it thinks reducing salt will give it a grater share of the market, then that’s their prerogative. If you don’t think any food isn’t salty enough you can add as much as you want.
By reducing the salt they are reducing manufacturing costs by a goodly amount. To make it into a health issue is just a pr bonus. I spent 6 years in product development. Salt is sometimes the most expensive item in a product.
We know from Grade Four health class that people should exercise and eat fruits and vegetables. Sadly, some people don’t follow that advice. Let their doctors admonish them. For those who DO follow that advice but occasionally tuck into some sort of treat, there is no need to raise a red flag. Let adults eat what they want. THEY will pay for it (or not).
It’s pure politics dominating this issue. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has been insisting for nearly 40 years that salt intake should be restricted, and they’ve been so insisting without any evidence supporting their claim.
They’re not about to admit that they’ve been wrong for 40 years. And they can round up at least a few sycophantic wh*res in science to support their claims.
It’s all about grant money. There’s utterly no personal or institutional benefit in finding no harm.
Revnant, don’t be stupid. Politicians are helpless when they’re getting log-rolled by some so-called scientific institution. Do you seriously think the public or media will spring to their defence when they speak out against something that supposedly constitutes a health threat? Politicians tried to speak up in defence of the MMR vaccine and got smoked by an army of Jenny McCarthys backed by a fake science report. Grow up.
HP sauce? What are you supposed to do with that?
If you buy garbage cuts of meat, I’m sure you’d need lots of it to cover the awful taste.
Just add salt.
Free: try A1 sauce, tastes better and has all natural ingredients, no chemistry experiments.
Ricardo: our bodies require numerous electrolytes, not just salt. Check these links for more info:
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/electrolytes/article_em.htm
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002350.htm
The essential mineral in iodized salt is iodine, which is added to most table salt. Exceptions are sea salt and Himalayan salt (which used to be sea salt). For some reason, very few brands of either add iodine.
Atric: I like Worchestershire sauce, too, but I prefer A1.
This is HP in the UK. I trust that our HP made in Ontario is not changing.
Occam:
But your typical culture warrior (even in the boardrooms of commerce) is basically a fascist
.. and the meme slowly begins to take route..
root, dammit, not “route”.. pushed the button too quickly
If ya really want a scare read the lable on a can of tomato juice or soup…salt/sodium content….
I thought about that after hauling a 49,000 lb. load of “blending salt” into a soup factory….
Join our Facebook group to object to this outrageous invasion by the Nanny State. I am old enough to vote, to go to war, to smoke, to drink and to choose whether I want salt or not!
“I think it was the “prophet-poet” Ecclesiastes who wrote”
Hate to be didactic here, but ecclesiastes means preacher or place of worship. The book was traditionally attributed to King Solomon who was alledged to have written the book in his old age. Over the years the book has been used by Freemasonry, the Birds (60’s group) and on and on.
A1 is yuck.
HP isn’t made in the UK anymore. It is made by the Dutch now. Still great sauce, or was before this.
Allan:
HP with eggs is one of mankind’s greatest collaborations. Whether they are fried, scrambled, or in omelette form, HP adds the perfect sharpness and tanginess in contrapuntal harmony to the eggs’ creamy goodness.
Take some ordinary bread. Toast it. Grate some non-descript cheddar, place it on the toast, and pop under the broiler until the cheese melts. Now, add a dollop of HP. Once again, the sum is greater than the whole of its parts.
Do this in memory of me.
Soon to be introduced: “HP Classic”