Where the foxes caper unmolested, the government packs your school lunch and even John Cleese is throwing in the towel.
h/t PiperPaul – “1559 comments and counting…”
Where the foxes caper unmolested, the government packs your school lunch and even John Cleese is throwing in the towel.
h/t PiperPaul – “1559 comments and counting…”
How about author Michael Amis?
He positivley HATES England!
(love and agree with every sentence of it!)
Ah, it is now biting you in the ass!
We told you it would. What are you going to do now? Ask us for firepower, as you ALWAYS do?
Personally, I’ll flip a finger at Britain if push comes to shove – I owe British nothing. They haven’t done much for Russia in 1917 and soon after recognized the Bolshevikhs. I will never forgive recognition of the Soviet Union.
About ten years ago, John Cleese also noted that satire is pretty well dead: satire can only work when set against reason and sanity. Modern society has pretty well abandoned both of those standards—the result of moral relativism. It’s not for nothing that Pope Benedict talks about “the dictatorship of relativism”: once we turn our backs on truth, anything goes.
And, as far as satire’s concerned, the truth of the matter these days is stranger than anything one can make up. (Obama is to President as Clouseau is to Detective—and that’s a FACT!) No wonder Cleese has moved to Bath—probably to retire, as his old job is pretty well obsolete now.
Doug, I was wondering who this “Michael” Amis is: a new writer in this old family? It’s actually Martin Amis.
Thanks for the link to the article.
I completely agree with Cleese and Amis, re the precipitous decline of England. (We’re not far behind.) From the article Doug linked:
“The novel Amis is currently working on, State of England . . . The story of a violent criminal, Lionel Asbo, who wins the lottery, it’s ‘a metaphor which translates well, I think, our state of moral decrepitude: a huge reward for no effort’.
“‘You can have no talent, no ambition, and you win all the same. [Minus the ambition part, that’s Obama writ large, IMO.] All young people dream of that. Young girls dream of becoming models. Celebrity is the new religion,’ said Amis.
“‘So it’s a book about the decline of my country, about the rage, the dissatisfaction, the bitterness, all unconscious, caused by this decline … One can have the impression that life in London is pretty pleasant. But all is rotten inside.’”
Britain: except for its military forces, it’s become a stupid little country.
I don’t know but هو على الأرجح لا شيء!
Well Britain still has lush scenery, beautiful cathedrals, and exquisite choral music: sort of like cosmetics on a corpse, though. Pity . . .
(slow clap…)
Thanks for coming out, Martin Amis. You and your friends have had all their s*x and drug fun, your sister died of it, and now you’re too old to party and nobody you fancy fancies you anymore.
Never heard THAT one before.
Perhaps as John Cleese gets older, he is getting wiser? Loved the Holy Grail, btw. Had to see it a few times to figure out what a kniggett was.
Maybe I’m missing the point of the article but here goes. Isn’t immigration a bit like inviting guests into your home? Everyone is welcome but you follow house rules?
It seems the Redgrave family was quite famous as actors go. Faulty Towers was funny too, but Cleese’s real life, and the Redgraves wealth is spent supporting causes I’d rather see pushed off the edge.
So how is it different from a dog that poops his bed, and then wants to sleep on the couch? Bath is certainly nice, perhaps he’ll be neighbors to Peter Gabriel and talk of how England should be for englishmen again?
Well if John Cleese is throwing in the towel, one should hope it is a BATH towel…
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
How Cleese of him.
England has devolved. Remember- this little island once owned huge chunks of the world. Its poetry and literature were astounding. Now, as Mr. Cleese might say, it’s populated with total yobs.
Nice empire while it lasted.
@aaron, 9.00 am. The UK financed every counter-revolutionary loon they could find against the Bolsheviks from 1917 to 1920. They lost from sheer solid dedicated incompetence.
I expect then Enoch Powell will be doubly condemned by the left — first for telling people what they didn’t want to hear, and second for being right.
I m reading Martin Amis’s “Koba the Dread”. A good read if you are interested in seeing where we are headed if the “social justice” crowd gets their way.
oldfart, @ 1:28 and Labour’s and the unions’s threats did not help.
From the article, down at the bottom: “…many of the people who seem to care most about immigration are hateful, weird and/or slightly mad, while those at the other end of the debate are all nice, easy-going and intelligent.”
He intends this to mean conservatives are mean and liberals are nice, but really in my experience the reverse is true. Liberals are all peace-love-dove until you express an opinion contrary to Lefty cannon. Then they turn like frickin’ werewolves under the full moon.
John Cleese d@mn well got what he said he wanted, as did every d1ckweed leftist in Europe. Out with the old, in with the new they said. Imperialism is evil they said. Peace at any cost they said. Free love they said.
“London is no longer an English city.” Poor baby! Maybe you should donate to some historical societies and start kicking some of your media buddies into aiming their media projects more towards proper social goals instead of s.x dr.gs and Rock’nRoll Johnny. You putz!
BTW, but not off topic, has anyone else noticed the concerted movement in small children’s toys towards princess stuff? Disney is making a KILLING selling Princess This and Princess That, Mattel likewise has Barbie Princess stuff.
Fluffy dresses are much more entertaining for girls than the slutware on display in teens and tweens stores this year. I was dragged into a Guess store down here, the girls shorts were like five inches from waistband to bottom of leg. As a man I don’t mind seeing them on women (woo!) but seeing them on -kids-, “that ain’t right” as they say.
Nothing from the culture wars for boys of course, just more cars and football. But the girls will drag them along in due time I’m sure. No self respecting Princess is going out with some dork in shorts, t-shirt and greasy baseball cap worn sideways.
From 1917 to 1920, oldfart, is a very short attention span, do you agree?
In the inestimable words of a great Canadian band, Trooper, ‘Raise A Little Hell’ this election.
Are we second-rate, wannabe Americans or better?
You decide.
Ken(Kulak)# 1.47 pm. Churchill, a landed aristocrat by descent, then a Liberal, was the sole enthusiastic supporter of the Whites, everyone else (Conservative, Liberal, Labour) thought they were a dead loss. Nevertheless vast sums of money were wasted suporting the Whites, who failed from their own gross incompetence.
I don’t get you, oldfart. What message are you trying to deliver?
From the article, Salman Rushdie, claiming he’s not equating British Imperialism with Nazism and then doing exactly that: “But British thought, British society, has never been cleansed of the filth of imperialism. It’s still there, breeding lice and vermin, waiting for unscrupulous people to exploit it for their own ends.”
I can see why he turned down that knighthood on principle. Oh, wait…
Britain is a very left-wing country, lefties hate Western culture and therefore Britain has done everything to destroy itself, and apparently succeeded (not just through immigration, of course). At least it exists as a cautionary example.
The UK did everything they could financially to assist the Whites to attempt to crush the Bolsheviks. By 1921 the Whites had failed, and the allies, France, Japan, UK, USA gave up supporting them. The point is despite snide remarks the UK supported the Whites until they disappeared, and evacuated the remnants from the USSR.
…and recognized the monsters. Thank you kindly, for nothing.
Right. Because it was Britain’s fault, after all, for trying to do the job you should have been doing yourselves. Because “recognition” matters so very much when you idiots have already lost your war, despite the help provided.
Go back Siberia then, Aaron, and take your arrogant attitude with you. You and Rushdie sure know how to win over your hosts; I guess we’ve been given an additional insight as to why your respective countries are, perpetually, such a goddamned mess.
“Koba the Dread” exposes in some part British leftist attitudes toward communism (especially a rather telling incident involving Christopher Hitchens). It is somewhat humorous in a dark way how John Cleese supports the Establishment rather than bashing it now.
Oh well…
Mmmm yeeees indubitability, tough lot that.
From London to Bath and next to Bermuda.
Champagne socialists couldn’t care less other than all the bloody bother and mess of someone moving the contents of their estate houses while they spend either spring in their Paris apartment or a few days at the chalet in Innsbruck.
What brave souls they are to muster through the hard times for their ultimate utopian dream world that’s just around the corner if Labour Democratic governments could just increase the size of their socialist state a li-uhl muh.
” Prince Charles, though, is “charming”, with a “pretty extraordinary laugh, like the snore of a pig”. Michael Amis
That is funny! I might just read some of his stuff
Uh, it’s Martin Amis!
I’m slightly bemused by most of these posts.
As a long serving British soldier who lives in Warwickshire not far from both Shakespeare’s birthplace and Birmingham, I spend lots of time in London with extended family and friends.
I find it most amusing that from the evidence of newspaper articles you summise that the UK is dead and is a rotting corpse.
Britain does have immigration problems I grant you that but that is no different than in Roman times, Saxon times, Viking times or indeed in Norman times. In fact Great Britain was built on a policy of immigration. No doubt complaints about foreign people have been about for over 2000 years on these shores.
But you need to understand what attracts these immigrants to Britain. Yes some come for the perceived easy welfare payments. But most come due to the perceived fairness of Britain.
This was demonstrated to me when getting a taxi home and the driver was an immigrant. To cut a long story short he came to my country as he believed it was fair and had opportunity. He wanted to do the best for his family and his story is one of many. He believed he owed Britain more than the indigenous population because it took him in during his hour of need. A great country is built on these stories not the negative mass hysterical stories of immigrants that is used to sell newspapers. (That’s all these stories are).
Britain has always moved with the times and has had many great thinkers. It still does!
As for a yob culture. Yes it’s here. It always has been.
How do you think we had such a successful military machine.
Not technology. Sure determination of will which comes from the so called gob culture.
It was alluded to when Wellington defeated Napolean.
Also by The German high command when it was commented that with British Soldiers and German Officers they could rule the World.
It has always been thus.
If you as Canadians think we are a corpse I think you should release that the rotting smell is coming from your southern border not from us.
Any 21st Century Country that is still as religously and racially bigoted as I have seen during my many visits is lost.
Religion is a device that gives you moral guidelines, not a pulpit to preach hatred and misunderstanding. I believe that is the lesson Jesus taught when in the Jewish temple. You don’t need to worship in a house.
We may appear to be religiously destitute but we are not. Well some may be. Lol.
I am not an atheist neither a practicing Christian just a man living by my moral compass.
We are a normal evolving country currently tied to Europe when our interests still lie in India and Pakistan.
Beware the sleeping giant.
Oh
I almost forgot, to the man who blemishes my name “Aaron”
Please can you evolve from your childish repartee about my Country into someone with a reasoned intellectual debate.
We don’t need your support or ask for it. I believe politically you rely on our diplomacy and military intervention in Korea, Iraq and Afghanistan to justify your actions.
The irony of the situation is you ask us to support you in fighting a terrorist organization that has attacked your home soil, which we do without condition.
This is in stark contrast to your active support of the PIRA who bombed London and Birmingham (again a terrorist organization who bombed our home soil)
To understand any situation I suggest you read up on the political complexities of the situation from three unique sources. Always both sides of the coin and a neutral and then draw your own conclusions
Yours to debate upon
‘Ken(Kulak)# 1.47 pm. Churchill, a landed aristocrat by descent, then a Liberal, was the sole enthusiastic supporter of the Whites, everyone else (Conservative, Liberal, Labour) thought they were a dead loss. Nevertheless vast sums of money were wasted suporting the Whites, who failed from their own gross incompetence’
Oldfart – what is your point? Was Churchill wrong because he was a Liberal (meaning libertarian in the early 1900s) or was Russia wrong to allow a coup d’etat by Terrorists (Bolsheviks) to steal the first democracy they ever experienced (The Provincial Government under Kerensky)? Russia was bled blue by WWI, at the time, the Russian people were so weak that they were willing not to fight for their new won freedom.
Churchill was against the Bolsheviks because he was a traditional Liberal (not the brand that is being trotted out in Canada) and he knew the Terrorists (Bolsheviks) would destroy freedom all over the world. Was Churchill right or wrong to support the only crowd capable of fighting the terrorists?
Just curious.
BTW, Ken Kulak knows of what he speaks when he speaks of the Red Terror and all things Bolshevik. You should listen to him, you could learn something.
On Martin Amis not Michael as was pointed out previously.
He is an ingrained socialist ( no doubt from his welsh upbringing) and dedicated republican.
His disparaging remarks about the royalty upon meeting them are probably due to his notoriety.
I can think of another man of this fold who was deputy prime minister. Yes John Prescott.
A dedicated socialist republican who resented the monarchy and it’s awards.
Oops yes that’s right. I should say Lord Prescott after he accepted a peerage off the queen. It’s amazing what a Barony does for a socialists republican beliefs and morals isn’t it. Lol
“They haven’t done much for Russia in 1917 and soon after recognized the Bolshevikhs.”
1917?
That was 94 years ago.
Get over it.
Armyair, one can put your experience in context of the failing Roman Empire, Saxons, ect. but I’m afraid one would still come to the conclusion that it’s not just the London Bridge falling down.
Sorry.
In fact Great Britain was built on a policy of immigration. No it wasn’t. A series of invasions is not a policy of immigration. Britain has been an Anglo-Saxon nation with celtic fringes for 1,500 years. Of course there has always been immigration, although in nothing like the volume since WWII; and immigrants used to assimilate. Official “multi-culturalism” deliberately encourages the opposite.
I suggest you google “Andrew Neather”.
(Well, of course, I used the word “nation” sloppily there. Let’s go with “island”.)
With regards to immigration and our country falling apart. I have a few questions.
1. Am I to understand that your countries weren’t built on mass immigration.
2. After years of social excess and a burgeoning welfare system under a socialist government, is it not reasonable to expect a few groans as the nation is weaned off handouts. You can’t make an omlette without breaking eggs.
3. Is our struggling economy any different from the US for instance who have no burden of a comprehensive NHS or welfare system and also have a shrinking industrial prowess and enormous debt. Their main expenditure is military of which the defense industry profits and is 33% British owned and paying tax in Britain.
I believe yea. Our futures industry is moving away from an oil based economy as is Europe hence the debts whilst North America clings to this bygone era with no sign of movement
4. Finally what are you suggesting is actually falling apart in the UK. Given that the world is in a recession due to the excesses of the North American banking system. Other than weapons what does the US have to export to the world in order to regain on it’s debt. It’s motor industry is viewed as poor quality in Europe. And don’t suggest electronics which are made in the far east.
Bath is a beautiful English city; surrounded by “pleasant pastures,” it’s a picture of “England’s green and pleasant land.”
You’re right, lookout, about the applicability to the yob culture of Pope Benedict’s observations about “the dictatorship of relativism.” The yob culture is also indicative of what Pope John Paul II called “the culture of death.”
Having forsaken the faith of our fathers and mothers, we’re running a deficit in our ability to discern between right and wrong, good and bad, best and worst. Decreeing that all cultures are “equal” has robbed us of the ability to notice differences between them and, having done so, to decide which is of most benefit — or of very little benefit or even harmful — to society. Noticing differences, actually, can get you hauled up before a “human rights” (sic) tribunal, here and in Britain.
And modernists say Christianity is outmoded and has nothing to teach us? The dictatorship of relativism and the culture of death pretty well sums what’s going on in John Cleese’s England — and in every Western country. Could the Christian Church’s discernment that our Western civilization is in very big trouble be accurate?
Your UK bashing amuses me.
Much as your holding up of other people’s papers to win an argument. Quoting other people’s work to win your argument when evidently showing only one side of the argument shows a lack of respect. Lol
Could one person here explain why they have such glee at the incorrect thought that my island lol not a nation I am told which colonised your nations and gave you the legal and political systems you may hold dear is apparently failing. Such vitriol is shameful. A invasion and mixing of races must include immigration on a large scale otherwise how would they subjugate a people I wonder. Stern letters from France no doubt. The Saxons weren’t indigenous. The Britons were. Saxons and Angles were German. Normans were French and all brought mass immigration and changes to language and culture. Feel free to read up on the history of MY island anytime. lol
Armyair – I’m not going to fisk your stuff sentence-by-sentence if only because it would annoy Kate. “Great Britain” did not come into existance as a nation until the Act of Union in 1706 – that’s why I should have gone with “island”.
(Can’t resist this: The “Britons”, i.e. Celts, showed up about 500 years before the Romans did, so they weren’t “indiginous” either.)
It’s interesting that posters here bring up Pope Benedict. He was threatened with arrest before and during his visit to the UK and called any number of vile and ridiculous things by Britons whose German cousin monarchy are the heads (or rather head) of the official religion, Anglicanism, started by a man who tired easily of his wives and dispatched them at will. Just saying.
I think it is a rather specious argument and conclusion to say that one of the cornerstones of the UK was immigration due to the Normans, ect. or that the New World is in contractions with itself for opposing immigration. Unless one is counting the various kings and queens of Europe who married each other to avoid commoner blood, the mingling of the Normans, Angles and Saxons doesn’t really count. After the Second World War, the British Empire was on its way out. Its lax welfare policies made it easier not only for the people who once laboured under the Empire but for native citizens to take advantage of the state. There are people on the dole who have better accommodations and accoutrements than working people have. What is also noticeably lost in the UK is the kind of intelligence and sophistication that was usual in its citizens. When everyone knows who Posh and Becks are and have no clue that Blackadder was a comedy series not a real person, there is something wrong.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1373505/One-Brits-think-Sherlock-Holmes-Miss-Marple-Blackadder-historical-figures.html?ITO=1490
Evidently we are all lost and stupid in the UK.
Our Empire of which Canada was part is gone yes.
A sign of our decline must surely be reflected in our GDP
Mmmm. Let’s see. No our Economy is still strong. Must be all us morons thinking we are on the set of a Ben Elton comedy.
Invasions. i.e the Romans, Saxons and Normans were not carried out purely by a passing king, duke and a few of his knight buddies. They brought armies of occupation. These consisted of peasants, serfs as men at arms. Armies in the past had baggage trains with wives and families and merchants etc. This is the immigration I talk of. Maybe not millions but when the Uk population was small around 20 million a fighting army of 7000 – 10000 plus accompanying blacksmiths merchants families etc is large.
Please don’t quote the daily mail at me. It is well known among the educated it is a race hate filled comic.
Next stop is the BNP after reading that trash.
( Yes I’m University educated I have a Bachelors Degree in Engineering)
I’ve spent alot of time working in Alberta and British Columbia and your insinuation that the British are stupid and ignorant is laughable.
Our culture has given more to this world than is right for such a small nation. Yes there are some less fortunate.
But isn’t that the case in Canada. I’ve met a lot of retarded red neck cowboys. Medicine Hat is most interesting. Calgary as well.
Your economy suggests you are not better than us. Your creative industry suggests you are not smarter than us.
And your Universities don’t either.
And neither would I suggest we were more than you other than in Quebec.
Maybe you should just accept we are a different culture that has made liberal ideology work through compromise with both left and right wing attitudes. It is neither right nor wrong just different.
I believe rather than try to belittle my Island as you call it you should look at how the world perceives you and rectify your highlighted problems as you see fit.
Your irrational hatred of Briton is only fit for the Muslim Extremist.
I have enjoyed debating with you and until next time goodnight.
Armyair, one big difference between all your historical references and today’s situation.
Immigration is adapting to the host.
The current lot swamping your island is predominantly out to change it to their rule.
Try to read some Hamed Abdel-Samad, Ayaaan Hirsi Ali, etc.
Open your eyes.
Black Mamba
If you wish to Fisk my sentences. Fisk away. In the words of Robert Fisk himself it is a purille and hate filled occupation to Fisk on a blog.
Your difference in view point is just that, a difference. It makes neither you wrong and me right. Or you right and me wrong. It means that we disagree that is all.
EU refugee
I nor the majority of my country agree with the immigrants changing our rule. But until the silent majority act on this by voicing an objection then we are powerless to act.
Yes I understand what your saying but my answer is what has changed? In my life here in the UK.
Nothing. Nothing has changed for me.
As for saying this has no similarity in history.
Every successful invader imposed their culture on us.
From the Romans to the Normans. And look we survived. If our racial mix is all you have to worry about. Then don’t
Burn your crosses and stamp about in your bed sheets but don’t worry about us.
If the day comes I can always go live in Germany or France as an immigrant if I don’t like it here.
It’s the law in The EU. Open borders. I can claim benefit as well great.
But I wouldn’t. Why? because I have a drive to work and succeed.
The same as most British thank god.
If we all leave The UK, god help the rest!!!!
Who would pay taxes. Lol
Simple see
A sad end for a great people at one time.
I don’t fear you, Armyair, I fear Kate. In fact she terrifies me. But, dammit, let’s try this, I suppose it is on topic in a way: “Every successful invader imposed their culture on us.” Okay. And you equate invasion with “policy of immigration”; we’ve established that.
Do you want Pakistanis imposing their barbaric culture on you as they have imposed it on large swathes of England (including the northern City where my father was born and raised)?
Because you can’t have it all ways.
I’m not looking for a response, it’s rhetorical. And I’ll add that you’re wrong about the “glee” you detect; I think most people on this blog find the notion of Britain circling the toilet bowl terribly sad.
Mamba, you don’t have to stretch too far to shoot Armyair’s “argument” out of the water. Fact is, I am safer walking around at night in the cruddiest part of South Phoenix, AZ than he is doing the same in London. The proper parts, not the “no-go” areas. That’s what the statistics say about gun infested cowboy country vs. Jolly Olde London.
Whadda ya think of that, Amyair? Tell you something else old bean, I’ve got a -lot- more freedom and more legal rights as a Canadian visitor in Arizona than you do in England as a citizen.
Less government is better government. Wake up and smell the coffee, guy.