The Canadian Forces is preparing an official apology for listing the Mohawk Warrior Society as a potentially violent insurgent group in a draft manual in 2006.
And in related news, the RCMP draft a statement of regret to the Hells Angels, the Canadian Cancer Society pays restitution to leukemia, and Raid® removes flies from its insect list.
That’s becasue they got it wrong,wrong, wrong.
The Mohawk Warrior Society as not a potentially violent insurgent group.
The Mohawk Warrior Society IS a violent insurgent group.
It should be the Whining Mohawk Warriors
or perhaps the Wining Mohawk Warriors?
How much productive energy do we waste out of concern for the ‘losers’ of our past conflicts, matches and triumphs. I mean seriously, what’s the point of winning if we must constantly apologize for it?
“You’re a loser for winning!”-school counselor (on King of the Hill)
You say violent insurgent group like its a bad thing. Maybe I’m just being sensitive but some masked dude with an AK47 staring at me from behind a barricade seems a tad violent to me.
There are times when this government does stupid things and this is one of them.
What could possibly be violent about a group that is named Warrior Society, wears combat fatigues, has assault rifles and .50 cal machine guns, and wears masks in a standoff with the CF initiated by murdering a police officer?
in·sur·gent [ in súrjənt ]
noun (plural in·sur·gents)
Definition:
1. rebel: somebody who rebels against authority or leadership, especially somebody who belongs to a group involved in an uprising.
This sort of thing degrades the concept and purpose of apologies.
The CPC is supposed to be strong on law and order.
I wonder which MP is responsible for ordering this apology?
Seems to me the Mohawks are a bunch of poseur puss1es for even wanting an apology in the first place.
Now they have an apology, and police protection while they threaten people. I wonder what a real mohawk warrior would think of that?
These clowns were also involved in the Caledonia standoff. Yeah… nothing violent ever happened down there.
Please, please, will someone send Jason Kenny over to Military HQ and slap some sense into the management staff! Jeeesh!
“I wonder what a real mohawk warrior would think of that?”
~hudson duster
They’d think they were entitled.
Mohawks used to eat people who weren’t of their tribe.
Viewing other people as food is the epitome of entitlement.
lOOks like the natives are learning faster than ever to use the same tactics that the white man uses.
IRA engages in terrorism in the name of religion; peace f-i-n-a-l-l-y comes to norhtern ireland and voila !! now the IRA boys morph into organized crime gangs using their connections and experience.
google it.
didn’t this whole thing start when a golf resort decided to expand the course onto sacred native burial grounds? google that too.
pooch
“””didn’t this whole thing start when a golf resort decided to expand the course onto sacred native burial grounds”””
yah these “gypsy” people had sacred burial grounds were ever someone (read tax payer)wants to build something
beaglianov, the IRA have been “organized crime” for many decades. BTW, are you denying that the Mohawk Warriors are a violent criminal gang? You’re not, are you. You just don’t have a problem with the fact.
Why not apologise to ALL violent offenders? Make this equal-opportunity Swede-ing (not the re-taping, the caving in kind).
Canada the Nation that became Dhimmis for all & sundry.
Where the apology for the Mafia?
JMO
Beagle, the IRA might identify themselves as Irish Catholic. They are anything but. They are Marxist terrorists. This comparison isn’t just dishonest; it’s stupid.
This is about as stupid a thing as the government has ever done. Next thing you know we’ll be apologizing to Clifford Olsen or Picton for the fact that they are serial killers.
STUPID!STUPID!STUPID!STUPID!STUPID!
From the CBC link:
“If I hear what I want to hear in there, then that’s probably when I’ll be excited enough,” Jacobs said. “I may even give them a good clap that it didn’t take 200 years to get an apology.”
Oh, I can guarantee that she will hear exactly what she WANTS to hear: When filtered through “victim” ears, everything sounds like an incitement to conflict, no matter what the words actually are.
I seem to recall that the Mohawk Nation signed a treaty with the British Crown that predates confederation. This treaty gave the Mohawks rights outside of the much later 1867 BNA or the 1980 Constitution.
That means they are not a terrorist organization, but a sovereign nation defending its rights as recognized by the British Crown (at least when the treaty was signed).
Whatever unilateral action may have been taken by Canada or Britain in the years since that treaty was signed may have legal force off the reserve, but the Mohawks have the natural rights of all people to defend their own land from usurpers.
Just my opinion, for which I reserve the right to to be wrong (or right).
First Nations have some virtues beyond considering me a GOD.
Item: First Nations were never tree-hugging pacifists…..
Item: The 6 Nations original claim to Upper Canada was by right of conquest. After destroying the Neutral/Tobaccos and Huron/Wyandote.
Item: The Mohawks—part of the 6 nations Iroquois Confederacy are in reality United Empire Loyalists.
Item: The 6 nations Iroquois Confederacy are not a conquered people but valued allies in the Revolutionary War and War of 1812.
There is merit to GYMs concern about the burial grounds…..Indian groupings were in a constant flux.
When Cartier erected his cross on Gaspe…the resident Iroquois made formal complaint….next voyage the Iroquois were long gone and Algonquians resident.
The Tuskarora nation…fraction the othe 6 Nations migrated north from Virginia/West Virginia/Kentucky post contact.
“sacred native burial grounds”
I’ll wager you can dig in a lot of places in the province or country, and find more than a few random indian bones hither and yon. Does that make them “sacred”, too, and do we all need to pay off their lackluster descendants accordingly?
I, for one, am getting rather weary of our “native peoples” rejecting all aspects of the maple leaf, unless it’s embossed on a piece of paper with a “$1” and ten zeroes behind it.
These clowns continue to foment armed insurrection and flout this country’s laws. Call them exactly what they are, without apology, and grow a pair, CF. What are they going to do? Not cash the cheque?
mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm
Oh isn’t that cute now we are apologizing to US immigrants called the Chicken Hawks awe that’s so cute and progressive. They can go back to the US now right?
Oh, yeah… “warriors”
Yes, these are REAL warriors: worthless tw@ts who hide behind bandannas, balaclavas, women and children.
A real warrior-like collection, they are. Just like 300 of their brothers who held off the persian legions at Thermopylae.
mhb
I think Exile in Seattle and sasquatch’s comments have merit. Check out the history of these Mohawks. These people fought with Johnson in the American Revolutionary War and with the Butler’s Rangers in War of 1812. And, yes, I do believe they are a sovereign nation by treaty with the British crown.
Just saying.
She may even “give them a good clap”. Yeah, that’s quite a likely possibility. Make sure you’ve had your shots boys….
Would it be too much to dream that a “military apology” would involve cluster munitions?
The military should not only apologize,they should back the apology up with LOADS AND LOADS OF MONEY!
‘Cause money makes the terrible HURT go away,like nothing else!
Let’s start the bidding at 2 billion…….do I hear 3….?
Sounds like a good start.
Ken said “..I do believe they are a sovereign nation by treaty with the British crown.”
You are right there. But they are a tribe from south of the border and the government at the time gave them land in Canada. Unfortunately the land in question actually belong to other Indian tribes, most notably the Mississaugas.
I think there is a very apt comparison to the IRA here. The IRA managed two organizations. The IRA (the muscle) and Sein Fein (the brains) This model is a perfect fit for the Mohawks. You have thugs running around blowing shit up and laying beatings down and you have the lawyers running around applying for grants and suing for reparations.
England managed to do a divide and conquer mission in Ireland by giving Irish land to Scottish settlers.(who were actually Irish descendants) Then sat back and watched the fireworks. Much the same as having the Mohawks fighting with the local tribes so they could sit back and let things play out.
Celt fighting Celt and Indian fighting Indian and the powers that be sat back and commented “What a bunch of savages”.
A good start at what? You want to give them Brantford, just so they know you’re -really- sorry?
How about Kitchener? Cambrige? They already have Caledonia, how sorry are you?
BTW, is your problem that the Mohawk Smuggling Society were named an armed insurgent group because you think they aren’t (armed), or is it that you think they should be allowed to do whatever they want because of the eeeeevile WhiteMan being mean to them and stuff?
I smell payoff. Think Arar. Except the government is saying sorry before they cut the cheque.
Now you know why I can’t vote in a Canadian general election. I think I’m a reasonable person, mostly “conservative” in my views. But this country is run by drooling cretins. There is no one to vote for, so I abstain.
I need to make more money so I can get out. You can keep my CPP, folks.
Military is kind of law unto themselves. When one says military, one means the management, the generals and such.
Those non soldiers are well versed in newspeak.
Those non soldiers sit in their offices, looked after by the privates, with nothing to do really.
They generally devise schemes how to get more money for the military, though not so much for their soldiers, more for their office. That way they can have meetings in the best places, with the best wine, the best food and the best looking women and men for entertainment.
The generals are the same in any military. In peace time the look well after themselves, in the war time though they do have to produce.
To apologize for no reason at all, really does not do any harm, civilians don’t care that much, so in the overall scheme of things this is mostly PR. It really does not mean anything, just cheap PR.
Osumashi Kinyobe at December 22, 2010 5:10 PM
put things in proper perspective for the dog.
The only apology that is appropriate would be to the Canadian people for the governments failure to put down the “warriors/terrorist” during the standoff.
Next time send in Blair and his head busters from
Toronto.
Make that violent criminal insurgent group ……
Hey! NDHQ! While you’re down on bended knee, you may as well apologize to the Taliban for Hillier’s “scumbag” quote.
Carefull you don’t tear your panty-hose while you’re doing it….
I could try, Lev, but would it work?
Thankfully Canadian governments, media hangers-on and the riff-raff that cling to their every word have left the Mafia out of this “criminal organization” branding thing. Bikers and ‘injuns’ aren’t bidding on government contracts, are they?
@beagle at 4:32 PM
IRA engages in terrorism in the name of religion
As a matter of fact – NO, you are wrong.. IRA did not engage in terrorism in the name of religion, IRA engaged in terrorism in the name of freedom from British rule for their compatriots who, in their majority, were catholics.
It is a large difference between the two, you know.
Although there was some cooperation between IRA and some nationalist Middle Eastern terrorist organisations, most notably – the PLO.
G M A F B!
So, who gets the next apology?
How about us stay-at-home moms in the ’80s, when the Liberal Government considered us lower than cockroaches for being “chattel” to our husbands and for not championing the new-world, new-age feminist vision of womyn? Our monthy “mother’s allowance,” or whatever it was called then, was a mere pittance compared to the CPC’s $100/month/child-6-and-under.
This apology stuff is getting out of hand.
How about the Mohawk Warriors apologize for their behaviour at Caledonia — or for scooping billion$ of taxpayer dollars over the years with only cowardly face coverings and illegal occupations to show for it?
As soon as world maps show a different nation with separate governance and taxation systems, I’m all for an apology.
This is just wrong. I wasted an entire summer defending good order and governance so that 15 years later the bad guys could get an apology from us because we had the gall to interfere with their flagrant disruption of that good order? This is fu****.
Osumashi Kinyobe,
highly unlikely, there is a problem with getting a full grasp of reality in some.
Have an Issue, here’s a tissue.
I got your apology, right here!
Do the Mowhawk Warrior Society have that many Liberal votes?
Another billboard-sized example of the cowardice in the Harper government. Scared Shxxless to stand on principle, a bitch to every smarmy PC meme that throws mud at them.
I always said Harper had the soul of a coward. Time for the CPC to look for a leader with principle.
Does this idiotic government actually believe it will shut them up for a while ?? All it will do is what it always does. Empower them and their white lawyers even more. What a bunch of f****** idiots.