Time to pass the torch. Your hostess will be (briefly) on John Gormley Live in a half hour as this week’s Quizmaster. You can listen live at the link.
And no, SDA readers do not get advance clues.
Upate: looks like we’re going on a few minutes early.
The Question: What Saskatchewan “First” was “absolutely condemned” at the 1975 annual meeting of the Saskatchewan Conference of the United Church?
So far, all the callers remain stumped. I am certfiably evil.
Finally! Daren from Handel had the answer. At the time, John Clark, editor of United Grain Growers’ Grainews wrote;
“things must be different in United Church Sunday Schools today from when I was a kid. In those days, the Kamsack Sunday School teacher (an RCMP constable and hockey coatch) used to threaten benching us the next five hockey games if we didn’t ‘pay attention’ … But I’ll bet kids pay attention nowadays. The threat isn’t Hell. It’s inland terminals.”
It’s “Delyle”? I thought it was “Deleel”.
I can certify that question is pretty tough, and Gormley loves it!
@Black Mamba–and I thought it was “DELL-isle”. Many odd pronunciations abound. Try pronouncing the name of “Beaubier”. It’s not what you think. đ
It’s “Boobier”, isn’t it? Real mature, Johann đ
Actually, close! It’s bee-ber. I kid you not!
To keep it on topic, FINALLY someone won! Good question, Kate! đ
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/005219.html
I didn’t know it, but as kate has said before, google is your friend
It could be done, but it was a hard one to google.
lol, when I copied “1975 annual meeting of the Saskatchewan Conference of the United Church?” into google and SDA was number 4 on the search I took a chance.
Very good question as the two entities would never be associated with each other normally.
Just goes to show that reading SDA does pay off.
Keep up the good work, Kate
It comes up now because I just linked to it again. But when I wrote the question a few days ago, it was tough to find unless you used quotes.
Johann, Black Mamba, stop! You’re both wrong. It’s spelled Delisle and pronounced Duh!-lyle or Dee-lyle or something in between, as with the case of Trawna.
Why is the NDP at prayer (United Church) for social justice so important?
Delisle is the home of the Bentley brothers,who I think played for Trawna.For our American friends its how we pronounce Toronto,on a good day.
spike 1, that’s goin “back in the day”.
max and ____ bentley.
another stumper?
Humph…flagrant ripoff of De Nile
Alright, I have to ask… what possibly could have been the reason for the United Church’s objection to a grain terminal?
There’s a reason they’re called “The NDP At Prayer”.
“What Saskatchewan “First” was “absolutely condemned” at the 1975 annual meeting of the Saskatchewan Conference of the United Church?
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Oh, I don’t know, but since it was condemned by the Suzuki Shriners, I’ll take a few stabs at it:
Christian Prayers in schools?
Provincial refusal to administer abortions on demand?
Saskatchewan wouldn’t support the cannonization of Tommy Douglas?
Woodporter at 3:06 PM:”Alright, I have to ask… what possibly could have been the reason for the United Church’s objection to a grain terminal?”
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I suppose the same reason everyone else objected. The big terminals meant the death of the small town and village elevators (the ones you see on post cards and calendars), which meant farmers had to haul their grain much further, thus increasing their costs, and perhaps going broke. Put a lot of elevator managers out of work, too, I guess.
But, time moves on. Adapt or get out of the way.
DaninVan at 2:51 PM: “Humph…flagrant ripoff of De Nile”
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LOL!! For some reason, when I read that, coming from a Vancouverite, it occurred to me that Kate does for Canada what CBC was supposed to do, but never has. Reflecting Canada to Canadians. And we could add, reflecting the real Canada to the USA.
Go Kate!!!
“The big terminals meant the death of the small town and village elevators (the ones you see on post cards and calendars), which meant farmers had to haul their grain much further”
Got to wonder what they were thinking then, Louise. Weyburn Inland was the first farmer-owned and operated inland grain terminal in Canada. For some reason they wanted to haul their grain further.
http://caes.usask.ca/cafri/search/archive/2004-lang5-1.pdf
“In 1970 the Palliser Triangle Wheat Growerâs Association (PTWGA) was formed and
it âquickly became a major irritation for Pool leadersâ (Fairbairn, 1984, 215). The
members of the PTWGA questioned the power held by the Pool within the grain handling
industry and wondered whether the Pool had altered its focus from addressing membersâ
problems to furthering its corporate stance. Specifically, PTWGA members wanted to
have (1) farmers rewarded financially for higher protein levels; (2) grain cleaned at the
point of production in order to avoid paying freight on dockage screenings; and (3) elevators
focused on moving grain rather than storing grain. The construction of a farmer owned
inland terminal at Weyburn, Saskatchewan became one of the ways the PTWGA believed the system could be changed to address these concerns. Although SWP opposed the idea of an inland terminal, construction of the Weyburn Inland Terminal (WIT) went ahead, with 1,600 farmers in the Weyburn area purchasing $1000 shares. WIT became operational in November 1976; it was the first of 11 inland terminals that currently
operate in the province of Saskatchewan (Herman, 2003; Driver, 2001). The effort of farmers to build an inland terminal in the face of strong opposition is an indication that members perceived that the Pool was not satisfying their needs and suggests that member
commitment was weakening.”
At one point, the Blakeney government even tried to impose load limits on 5 axle trucks hauling grain that were lower than for any other product, just to try to kill it.
“The big terminals meant the death of the small town and village elevators”
There were a number of factors involved in the closure of grain elevators and the deaths of villages.
Many elevators were well past the end of their projected lives. Grain companies, notably the Sask Wheat Pool, were not interested in refurbishing or rebuilding aging facilities. Many elevators, although in good condition, were not set up to handle larger and heavier grain trucks. Once again, the elevator companies were not inclined to upgrade the scales, driveways, etc. to accomodate larger trucks. Add to this mix, an aging and rundown railway branch line network which the rail companies refused to properly maintain.
The fate of wooden grain elevators and the accompanying villages and hamlets was sealed long before inland terminals came along.