Even with the Constitution on his side, Jones was in effect stripped of equal standing in the eyes of his fellow citizens. Little wonder, then, that his bank actually called in his church’s mortgage; his insurance company actually canceled his church’s policy; and his Internet server actually pulled the plug on his website — all repercussions of his planned 9/11 demonstration. Inside of a week, Jones achieved a state on nonpersonhood that exceeds that of most convicted criminals, despite the fact that the only law he contemplated breaking was Islam’s.
Sobering and well written article
Remind your American friends of this when they tell you how proud they are of their free speech rights.
the banks are afraid of islam.
the insurance companies are afraid of islam.
the internet hosting companies are afraid of islam.
Diana West is highly underrated. Another amazing piece.
Fear is Islam’s “Ace in the Hole”, and they play that card often.
They continue to play it BECAUSE IT WORKS.
Imagine, as a non-muslim, threatening anyone with “if you do this, I’ll kill you.” What are the consequences? Now, what happens when a muslim makes the same threat?
We already live under Sharia law.
We should remember these lefties,elitists who support Islam. After the revolution, they will need to go to re-education camps.
Never so disgusted with my “civlization” in my entire life as to the MSM and elitist bastards’ response to Jones. Never. Meanwile the hoi-polloi are kept stupefied by vile circus acts like this: http://www.halfpintbrawlers.com/.
Remember the Roman Empire and how it ended.
This is only the beginning.
aha Kathy, another gal with some interesting things to say… I had read and bookmarked her stuff regarding Molly Norris only yesterday after reading The Mayor of Mitchieville had fallen out of line.
I’m still a bit saddened by “Right Girl” finding more meaningful employment.
http://www.dianawest.net/
Shouldn’t the response be obvious?
Remove any deposits from said bank. (If it’s a Florida bank, this alone should spark a bigger run, and bank failure.)
Cancel any policies with said insurance company.
Cancel all services from the ISP.
Hey, they want to exercise their judgment on who they can provide service to? Then we should exercise our judgment on who we get our services from.
And now we know why Obama’s middle name is “Hussein” and why people like Sarah Palin and Christine O’Donnell bring down the entire wrath of the media and elitists. Their attempts to shut us all up tells the tale they wish to obscure for all those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
So they can stone women to death,behead infidels,and hang gays,and burn my bible,all ordered by their “bible”,but I can’t???
The bearded goat lovers have all ready won.And our effiminate leftards don’t even realize it.
Ken is right…..it’s going to get very nasty in a bit.
Keep your ammo dry,and your daughters off the streets.
Off topic, but for some reason can no longer comment on the Ezra Levant thread.
The LIBERAL Media helped Political Islam crucify the Paster, and our politicians looked on with a smug smirk. We the people can undo the damage the Liberal media is doing to the West but we must boycotte the rabid left’s news mediums.
Yeah Jones got a raw deal but he may indeed have a cause of action with which to sue. Fenton IMHO with the aid of an ambulance chaising lawyer has likely won cash for life….wrong-ful dismissal pays well in the US.
In the long run, our society will be OK…regardless….in the ebb and flow of history baring a natural disaster these matters tend to fade away like the Berlin Wall.
In the long run the warmongers likely have the right idea for all the wrong reasons. It is the effects of natural, cyclical, climate change which are our biggest threat…..and ally.
References to the Fall of the Roman Empire are frivilous….decadence, christianity, lead pipes…. Climate (end of the Roman Warming)likely was the main reason for Rome’s collapse. The end of the Roman Warming not just caused crop failures but brought about a vast migration from the steppes/plains of Asia by those fleeing a similar cooling climate disaster there. The warming fostered the Roman expansion and it’s end ended them…..the eastern (more southerly) Roman Empire lasted another millenium.
The Minoans were simply whacked by the explosion of Santorini….devastation on a scale of Global Thermo-nuclear War.
The bronze age Mycenians most likely succumbed to the disasterous end of the Bronze age warming.
Much like the Greenland Vikings and the Chin dynasty(Mongol), our greatest challenge will not be the assault of a primitive alien culture but rather the end of the current warming.
Much like the end of the Medieval Warming Period ended the Viking threat…the end of the current warming will probably interdict the current Islamist threat. A rigid, orthodox ideology simply lacks the flexibility/adaptibility of our society…..which survived/adapted/expanded during/despite the Little Ice Age, with it’s severe weather and crop failures and the plagues…….
and particularly when the name-calling could be heard as sympathetic vibrations to the violent explosions of outrage over Jones that brought death and destruction to Islamic lands including (so far) Indonesia, Afghanistan and India.
At least some good from his efforts. Even if he is a bit wacky, he doesn’t deserve what his own are doing to him.
I cannot add anything more the original piece. It has covered the lunacy very well.
The revolution will be televised.
My understanding is that the bank in question is The Royal Bank of Canada
I’ve said it before- people really don’t know who they are dealing with. Pick an atrocity. If Islamofascists don’t care about their own lives or the lives of their fellow Muslims, NOTHING we do or say will make them respect life the way most do in the West. Dhimmis ostracized and even ruined others at the virtual behest of these violent fanatics and yet they don’t realise how self-destructive that is. Hating the West and its culture so much so that embracing the destructive nature of Islam will ruin them first.
Dennis Prager is right on when he says, “Those who are compassionate when they should be tough will be tough when they should be compassionate.”
Solid piece of insightful journalism. These official cease and desist orders over these victimless, nonviolent displays of contempt for Islam are actually implementation of sharia blasphemy laws.
It keeps a knowing smirk on my puss seeing these secular progressives peeing all over themselves in aiding the return of 7th centuty blasphemy laws. How progressive – snork!
Well now that bambam has removed the Creator from the Constitution he only has the protection of the Democrat Party. List the other names besides RBC and ride the whirlwind. I hate the RBC already so can’t help you out there.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/09/president_obama_removes_creato.html
Hey! but if your a washed up celebraty hack like Gifford yelling “Jesus sucks” after accepting an award on tv,CNN will let you host the next New Years celebration. Figure eh?
Here is a youtube link to Giffoed yelling out “Suck it Jesus”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re-8MeEBUJ8
Would like confirmation that it’s the RBC. Because that wold mean we Canadians could have an impact on the outcome here.
There is a thread that runs through all these events from the Empire State Building muslim light up to Harvard’s cartoon cowardice to the Jersey Transit firing to the Florida non-event. Craven insurance companies and their rat threats to jump ship at the slightest intimation that their policy holders have disturbed muslims in any way. Is it beyond reason that this unmentioned dead weight is felt in all areas of our society and the leftists and their jihad buddies have made it plain to those bonus hungry executives to keep things quiet or else?.
Fear is Islam’s “Ace in the Hole”, and they play that card often.
They continue to play it BECAUSE IT WORKS.
BECAUSE IT WORKS with progressives… I have long maintained that liberals are cowards who live in fear. When your life’s course lacks any moral fundamentals or ethics, when your moral compass spins due it its inherent relativism, you have no firm ground on which to take a stand, and so you are alweays in a state of flight. From the gun registry (can’t let others have guns, they’ll use them on US), can’t drive with a cellphone, you might get hurt, can’t say something nasty or speak your mind about something, (because someone might be offended and come and hurt you), can’t allow people to use chemicals on their lawn because somebody might, might get hurt, somewhere. Liberalism is a mental disorder. Its all about fear. Its all about paranoia. A massive clusterfark of a Generalized Anxiety Disorder in a population of people who are being exploited by their morally relativistic own because nothing controls like fear.
Jones was M-marked: “Double-Plus Ungood”.
(H/T GO).
There is also the Ant Colony wherein only Ant language is allowed (pc).
“T. H. White, in The Once and Future King, discusses the same concept in terms of the boy Arthur’s frustration while in the kingdom of the ants:
‘Wart watched the arrangements with a surprise which turned into vexation and then into dislike. He felt like asking why it did not think things out in advance-the annoyed feeling which people have on seeing a job being badly done. Later he began to wish that he could put several other questions, such as “Do you like being a sexton?” or “Are you a slave?” or even “Are you happy?”
The extraordinary thing was that he could not ask these questions. In order to ask them, he would have had to put them into ant language through his antennae-and he now discovered, with a helpless feeling, that there were no words for the things he wanted to say. There were no words for happiness, for freedom, for liking, nor were there any words for their opposites. He felt like a dumb man trying to shout “Fire!” The nearest he could get to Right or Wrong, even, was to say Done or Not Done.’
The entire homily runs, “Speech is silver, silence is golden.””
http://www.goines.net/Writing/double-plus_ungood.html
Progressives aren’t cowards. If Afghanistan was full of southern baptists, the recruiting centers would collapse from the weight of latte drinking progressive pseudo-pacifists hoping for their chance shoot a redneck.
This stuff just provides a very useful pretext for the progressives to stick it to people they don’t like.
Jones it seems is joining a long line of people persecuted because they crossed Obama. Remember Joe the Plummer? Palin is fighting back.
I agree with most posters here. The nauseating begging! Even by so called conservatives in a fit of self righteousness, that would have done Layton proud. These acts done in our name, by our leaders, was debasing to us all.
JMO
Would like confirmation that it’s the RBC.
Try this
one can only hope the MSM attacks the next Iman who suggests a radical solution , say building a mosque at ground zero or stoning a women, or cancelling an election with such vigor and conviction.
Still waiting for MSM coverage of Michelle Obama’s remarks which appeared Sept. 16th:
Author stands behind Michelle Obama ‘hell’ quote
Comments
September 18, 2010
BY JENNY BARCHFIELD
PARIS — The co-author of a new book about French first lady Carla Bruni-Sarkozy defended his sources Friday amid a media buzz over a passage that cites Michelle Obama as calling life in the White House “hell.”
Mrs. Obama’s spokeswoman has denied the first lady said such a thing, and a spokesman at the French Embassy in Washington said Bruni-Sarkozy “distances herself completely” from the book, which appeared in French bookstores on Thursday.
The unauthorized book, called Carla et les ambitieux or Carla and the Ambitious Ones, describes the scene of a March dinner at the White House, during which the two first ladies were purported to have had a conversation in English in which they compared notes on their experiences as wives of presidents.
The book claims Mrs. Obama said, “Don’t even talk to me about it, it’s hell. I can’t stand it.”
Author Yves Derai stood by the explosive dialogue, insisting it was based on interviews with “reliable sources” — though he declined to name them, in accordance, he said, with his journalistic principles.
“In France, we have something called the ‘protection of sources,’ so I’m not repeating what Carla or others told me,” Derai said. “We’ve put in the book the narratives and the information that we verified and compiled and we totally assume responsibility for it as independent journalists.”
Derai said he had interviewed about 50 people for the book and that Bruni-Sarkozy herself accorded the co-authors several interviews totaling about 10 hours. But he stressed the book was by no means an “official biography.”
The French first lady “didn’t read it [before publication] nor did she have the right to correct or vet it,” said Derai, an investigative journalist. AP
Thanx Mississauga matt – looks like the more likely reason is the pastor’s “Islam is of the Devil” campaign…he says so himnself. Timing is wrong for the Koran-burning threat.
cheers,
Mike.
Another nonperson: Molly Norris.
Gagged/stowed/stashed by O’s FBI.
“on the insistence of top security specialists at the FBI, she is, as they put it, “going ghost”:”.
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“On the Advice of the FBI, Cartoonist Molly Norris Disappears From View
The gifted artist is alive and well, thankfully. But on the insistence of top security specialists at the FBI, she is, as they put it, “going ghost”: moving, changing her name, and essentially wiping away her identity. She will no longer be publishing cartoons in our paper or in City Arts magazine, where she has been a regular contributor. She is, in effect, being put into a witness-protection program—except, as she notes, without the government picking up the tab. It’s all because of the appalling fatwa issued against her this summer, following her infamous “Everybody Draw Mohammed Day” cartoon.
Norris views the situation with her customary sense of the world’s complexity, and absurdity. When FBI agents, on a recent visit, instructed her to always keep watch for anyone following her, she joked, “Well, at least it’ll keep me from being so self-involved!” It was, she says, the first time the agents managed a smile. She likens the situation to cancer—it might basically be nothing, it might be urgent and serious, it might go away and never return, or it might pop up again when she least expects it.
We’re hoping the religious bigots go into full and immediate remission, and we wish her the best.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2591903/posts
sasquatch @ 4:04 “Much like the end of the Medieval Warming Period ended the Viking threat..”. Exactly, furthermore the Medieval Warming Period, as well as succession issues also ended the advances of the Mongols into Western Europe. To that point they were going through Eastern European armies like a hot knife through butter.
Recently we met a Greenland Inuit native who was driving a tourist bus in Copenhagen and hoped the the current warming period was true so that they could grow crops there again and resume the invasion of North America. He did say though, that this time they would come with bicycles rather than long boats as there are too many in Copenhagen.
Another aspect of this issue is the increasing use of halal slaughter.
As usual, Britain leads the way in genuflection to Islam.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313303/Britain-goes-halal—tells-public.html
So when is THIS cowardly twerp going to see justice?
“Sir Ian Mckellen (Gandalf) rips out the part of the bible that criticizes homosexuals when he stays at hotels.”
http://www.atheistmedia.com/2010/05/close-up-sir-ian-mckellen.html
Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander, no?
Norris might not ever have something bad happen to her..but that’s the point. The threat of it caused her retreat into being a non- entity, a non-person.
One who will never again say anything bad about Islam.
Islam has won because the person that was Norris no longer exists; she has,in fact, been eliminated as efficiently and as permanently as having a bullet to the brain, without the resulting mess.
“hoping for their chance shoot a redneck.”
Nope. they’d be forming various types of committees to investigate the possibility of having someone else do it. But they’d be seething with rage while discussing it and there would be demonstrations in favour of it. With signs. Lots of signs.
This might be a good time to review any business
dealings you have with the offending bank,isp or insurance company involved.Loss of revenue tends to make investors and share holders take notice.A run on RBC ought to “getter done”.
Has it come to this*: “A Knock on the Door”.?
“Army officers came to our apartment to speak with Father privately,”.
Our Enemy, The State.
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“Itse: Fed crackdown on state sovereignty folk would be tipping point”
Youtube ^ | RidleyReport
“Fed operatives “crackdown” people all the time, but NH state rep Dan Itse says he won’t be a secessionist until the Feds force it on him.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2591961/posts
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*”An excerpt from
When God Looked the Other Way
An Odyssey of War, Exile, and Redemption
Wesley Adamczyk
From Chapter 3
A Knock on the Door
…The atmosphere in and around our home began to change, becoming more gloomy and secretive. Army officers came to our apartment to speak with Father privately, and young people came to our door to collect empty cans and other metallic objects we no longer needed. My parents and nanny took to speaking in whispers when I was around and refused to explain why. Even Zosia began acting toward me the way Mother did, telling me not to be concerned and abruptly changing the subject.
Now and then I overheard my parents talking about imminent war with Germany. The uncertainty of what life would be like frightened me. Would the war last only one day, like the battles of old my father told me about? I wanted to know, but nobody would give me an answer.
On the first day of September 1939, the Germans attacked Poland across its western border. I did not understand what being at war meant, so I asked Mother.”
The timing isn’t “wrong”. He’s an early casualty in the war.
Phillipines, Corregidor, Bataan, Wake…
It ain’t over yet.
Midway happened eventually.
Want to make a quick $10,000 USD?
Turn in a Koran-burner:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/east-lansing-michigan-police-department-offers-10000-reward-in-quran-burning-case.html
Well we can rest assured the ACLU will be knocking on his door to offer their services defending his constitutional rights.
Waiting for the knock . . . still waiting.
Waiting.
W-a-i-t-i-n-g . .
The way to discard holy books is to burn them. This applies to Islam as well. The American soldiers burnt thousands of bibles in Afghanistan so as not offend anyone. They were discarding books. No one was offended.
Again, the “progressives” have shown how really regressive and uninformed. BUT, its in keeping with their religion called secularism. It too is based on false premises and ill-conceived concepts.
Link here: Includes socialists/communists burning the books.
“Our books and pictures had been piled high and were being engulfed by fire. All the books full of enchanting stories that my family used to read to me, all the history books that taught me the greatness of Poland—they were shriveling into ash. Why were the Soviets doing this to us?”
“Why did they hate us so much?”
Leftists/socialists/communists = O’hate.
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/004430.html
Well I rarely disagree with most of the posters here, but on this issue I do. Jones was being uneccessarily provocative…if he wishes to place himself at risk as a result of his own actions, fine…but he was placing US troops and other at risk through his completely unecessary planned action.
Unless he was a complete idiot, he had to know that what he planned would enrage the nutbar Islamicists.
If he wishes to do something positive, perhaps he should move his church to Saudi Arabia to establish a beachead there….Oh wait, the Saudis forbid churches and synagogues in their country…
So that would be a non-starter for our Saudi “allies”…most of whom would slit our throats if they could.
Unless he was a complete idiot, he had to know that what he planned would enrage the nutbar Islamicists.
Unless he was a complete idiot, he had to know that what he planned would enrage the nutbar Muslims.
There.Fixed for you.There are NO moderate Muslims.Never have been,never will be.A moderate Muzzie,by their OWN definiton,is an infidel,and must die.Cripes the lefties can be so stupid.
Oh drat.Forgot lefties don’t look at facts.
“Well I rarely disagree with most of the posters here, but on this issue I do. Jones was being uneccessarily provocative”
Are you kidding me?
No group or organization or religion/violent cult is more provocative toward us the Islamists.
Give your head a shake …. you think the victory mosk at ground zero was not a provocative idea? That’s what turned Jone’s crank in the first place.
It’s called pushing back … and it’s high time. Our oh-so politically correct leaders won’t do it … they will lead us all to slaughter.
Sorry, but the “it will endanger [insert]” argument just won’t fly. The exact same argument can be, and in fact has been, made about the Ground Zero mosque. And you can add practically any other supposed affront to Islam to the list too.
Remaining consistent to this argument, if we prevent them from building their monument to jihad at the site of mass murder, why that would inflame Muslim tensions around the world and endanger American national interests, especially its forces. Imam Rauf himself made that exact same argument after the Administration and Gen. Petraeus were kind enough to give it legs a few days earlier when they used it against the man who was simply a small time obscure pastor from Florida. Even conservative punditry, like Sean Hannity and others, were stupid enough to espouse the “he shouldn’t do it because it will endanger…” argument themselves. Now they just look like hypocrites for still opposing the GZM, since the hypothetical consequences (read: blackmail) of halting its construction are the same.
I think Ann Coulter summarized it best:
“If the general’s main objective is to hamper jihadist recruiting, may I respectfully suggest unconditional surrender? Because on his theory, you know what would really kill the terrorists’ recruiting ability? If we adopted Sharia law!”