41 Replies to “Published This Month In The Journal Of The Blatantly Obvious”

  1. The phenomenon is well known, but I don’t think that article did a good
    job of even beginning to explore the psychodynamics in any proper sort
    of fashion. Of course, the Journal: what would one expect?

  2. I notice the same behavior when people are driving. Some people act like bullies – tail gating, refusing to let others change lanes in front of them, doing everything they can to get a little ahead.
    Similar behavior in a bar would not be tolerated. Eventually these bullies would find their teeth on the floor. But in their vehicle they feel safe and anonymous.
    Perhaps the real test of a person is how they behave when there are no repercussions.

  3. I think the leading statement of the reason for this blog says it all. “Why this blog?
    Until this moment
    I have been forced
    to listen while media
    and politicians alike
    have told me…”
    That is what most of us are trying to do. Have discussions that would never have been entertained in the MSM a few years ago, and present new ideas and knowledge.
    Of course there are OTHERS; and that should be expected.

  5. rabbit
    I recognize that phenomenon as “driving fat”. The lack of serious perceived repercussions is directly proportionate the weight and physical inability of the “driver”.
    Syncro

  6. “Experts say the disinhibition effect is why people write rude, harsh or hateful things online that they would never say in person.”
    I don’t agree. I think it’s because they can get away with it they do it. That and they are jerks. I think the writer is making it sound like it’s a lack of empathy because they can’t see the person they are insulting. I think if they could see the person they would still do it if they thought they could get away with it.
    Like rabbit said. They would never try this in a bar.

  7. Syncro:
    And I thought it was “driving with a small pee-pee”. I was even thinking the police should carry a special gauge to ascertain guilt.

  9. rabbit
    [….I notice the same behavior when people are driving. Some people act like bullies – tail gating, refusing to let others change lanes in front of them, doing everything they can to get a little ahead.]
    Yeah they are really bold about bullying a bike (motorcycle)…..and then….when everytime they check their 6—the bike is still there…then panic sets in…speeding…running reds…..
    No need to break any laws or draw attention…just follow until they get busted or crash….it doesn’t usually take very long….

  12. It did for me for a while after Warren’s comment, Black Mamba;
    then it stopped working. It could be a client-side cache time-out.

  16. “Your brain online doesn’t see its victims cry. It can’t sense their disapproval. And it doesn’t fear authority.”
    “But we at The Journal have a plan to fix all that.”
    I think its difficult to overstate the hard-on certain people have for censoring the web. They LUST after it.

  18. Perhaps if we didnt use aliases we might not be inclined to say things online that we would not say face to face or toe to toe.Jamie MacMaster comes to mind right away,how about it guys take off the mask and see for yourself.

  20. At 08:31 above, Gord mentions a bar model. There was,
    if memory serves, an interesting discussion about a pub
    model here and following at SDA last January 29, 2008.

  21. …and, like bars, the worst offenders are the ones who are desperate to fit in (young people, wannabe’s) and addicts.
    I like the small degree of anonymity the internet provides. Your IP address allows you to be identified but you can still comment without having to completely reveal who you are.
    Anyway, I think Kate’s Place is comfortably pub-like – neither too uptight nor too wild.

  23. Let us see now,
    If one posts a comment rather than a tip in the “Reader Tips”, there is a good chance that Vitruvius will get upset and will more likely than not, delete the comment.
    So it is not necessarily anarchy that is going on. Those that run blogs make their own rules as to what they tolerate.
    Thankfully, up to now and looking forward to the future, SDA is a freewheeling sort of comment page.
    It is credit to Kate that she let’s the comments flow, even if there are commenters that at times seem to suffer from some kind of disorder.
    For example the commenter going by a single letter get’s positively orgasmic by his drive by comments.
    You may have noticed that Karen Kleiss relies on psychos in her article. You may have also noticed that so far as psychos opinions, there are as many and varied as you want.
    As for opinions, everybody has one. In the past one kept his opinion to oneself, today, its sort of another age as far as that goes.
    One must watch though, as Mark Twain noted “Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt”. Sure there is a wise guy somewhere that could modify that to apply to a comment.

  24. Yeah, well, it says Reader Tips, not Reader Comments, and as Kate has explained, SDA doesn’t do Open Threads. But actually, Lev, looking at the statistics, it is highly unlikely that Vitruvius will delete a comment. The problem is, a small subset of folks get tweaked when their comment gets moderated, and then they become pests. Look, five years ago, in my early days as a commenter here at SDA, there were three or four times when a few folks and I got carried away in some debate and Kate had to intercede and tell us to cut it out. Those are her rules. And what did I say, every time: “Oops, sorry, Kate”. When one is visiting a private property pub such as Small Dead Animals, only an idiot pisses off the bouncers.

  25. The comment was not meant to be a criticism, it was to illustrate a point. Sorry to have upset you.

  26. Um, I’m not upset, Lev, I didn’t think it was a criticism, and I think this is a great discussion and I’m enjoying it immensely: this is one of my favourite topics. Now all I’ve got to do is keep an eye on my own personal “no extended debates” meter 😉

  27. bullshit…
    i am as rude pig ignorant and vicious(but gloriously morally right and perfect in expression and sentiment ) in real life as i am when forum stalking…

  28. Heh heh I’ll vouch for Begley…luv ya John…give a Dawg a bone, this ole John went rolling home…

  29. ah, mahmood…my man!
    shalom….my….my …my arabic sounding good buddy and so on and so forth etc..etc…

  30. Pretty pathetic that anyone would make comments such as those.
    I mean, isn’t the fact that she attends Concordia the real low-hanging fruit here?

  32. Gen. Lee Wright wrote;
    “I mean, isn’t the fact that she attends Concordia the real low-hanging fruit here?”
    No. Concordia is one of the better small university colleges in the country. Unlike most small Canadian universities, Concordia is not a cesspool of breeding of liberal dogma and has quality staff and programs.
    http://www.concordia.ab.ca/about/

  33. If all it takes to destroy self-respect are some anonymous opinions, then I would say there wasn’t much self-respect to begin with.
    And some people take anonymous opinions so seriously they go to the trouble of actually composing a “pathology”. As though anonymous words on a computer screen comprise some great threat to society, or themselves.
    Thankfully the settlers who built this country were made of tougher material.

  34. Posted by: john begley>
    Not me, I have to work with a ton of Muslims all the time, so I’m cordial and polite. May as well work it back the other way. Love to tell them about what a s*hithole Canada is and that they are receiving lots of propaganda to the contrary about what a nice place it is. Of course overstate the over-taxation as much as possible and also explain why the US would be such a better place to immigrate to in their situation.
    The key is being polite and building trust first.

  35. Now he calls himself a bounce.
    Making a bigger joke of himself with ever utterance.
    HA

  36. This comment has been removed because it contains material which was deemed inappropriate
    (Self-censoring myself) 😉

  37. A story in the Regina paper with a tag line from Edmonton makes the title redundant.

  38. Internet trolls primed to ‘ignore social rules’: Criminals still don’t register their guns.
    Politicians their expense accounts.

  39. Hmmm. I’m wondering on what thread I had this posted … seeing as it wasn’t here. Vit will be sure to let me know …
    Gen. Lee Wright, we’re not talking Concordia in Montreal (yuck) but Concordia University College of Alberta.
    Probably, like you, I didn’t know there were two Concordias in Canada. If Ashley Callingbull was going to Concordia in Montreal , she’d probably be taking the Lysol-blogger to the HRCs.
    Coming from Alberta, however, she’s taking the common-sense approach, dismissing the troglodyte trolls as “immature and silly.”
    Way to go, Ms. Callingbull. You know when to call bull when you see it — and smell it.
    (Posted by: batb at May 4, 2010 6:24 PM)

  41. Thanks, batb. One of the other comments makes sense now.
    I was only aware of my university, the one in Lethbridge, and the one in Edmonton when I lived in AB.

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