55 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: Hopenhagen[1] H’orderves”

  2. Damn! I tried to sign their petition with the name “F*** You”, but it seems that name has already been taken.

  3. Yeah, me too! I am replacing my ‘to do list’ with ‘hope to do list’. On the second thought, wasn’t hope in the domain of desperation, depressed into the bottom of Pandora box?

  6. How much money will I be saved, should Canada be suspended? (In my no-B.S.-world, the glass is suddenly half full….)

  8. Just as the Islamic nutcases go off like a roman candle for reasons that the majority of the world consider insane, the GW Crowd are right in the same boat. They’ll start doing nutso things any day now. Copenhagen is coming and if you don’t bow down, then you must be altered, the bears depend on it. Same mind set.
    THIS IS HOW THE WORLD MUST BE!!!

  9. The NutSoes calimed today the ice in the Beaufort Sea has dissapeared. Only dirty ice left.
    Maybe the Nutsoes should go to the northern ice fields and feed the polar bears, no, wouldn’t work the bears would think they taste too much like artificial As—les.

  10. Cristina F. in Funchal, Portugal says that the silent dignity of trees gives her hope.
    The thought that Cristina may have slipped one past the censors at this barking mad creepy website is pleasant.
    Or else she means it.
    Why waste the insomnia? I’m gonna try one for Halifax.

  11. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_science
    Link from Wikipedia, so beware (this is supposedly a Feynman quote – bolding of text done by me):
    “He recommended that researchers adopt an unusually high level of honesty which is rarely encountered in everyday life, and gives examples from advertising, politics, and behavioral psychology to illustrate the everyday dishonesty which should be unacceptable in science. Feynman cautions that “We’ve learned from experience that the truth will come out. Other experimenters will repeat your experiment and find out whether you were wrong or right. Nature’s phenomena will agree or they’ll disagree with your theory. And, although you may gain some temporary fame and excitement, you will not gain a good reputation as a scientist if you haven’t tried to be very careful in this kind of work. And it’s this type of integrity, this kind of care not to fool yourself, that is missing to a large extent in much of the research in cargo cult science.”
    BINGO!
    The truth that is, “Nature’s phenomena will agree or they’ll disagree with your theory” is now often nicely side-stepped by those who preach doom-and-gloom in 50-100 years if you don’t follow their mantra.
    But they *do* have a point – how will “we” (I’ll be pushing up daisies by then or my bits scattered near Hawaii) know in 50-100 years if their predictions came true when our current news media can’t even remember what happened three weeks ago?

  12. Polar bears eating their young, you say?
    Hey, just send in a rescue squad from the Toronto SPCA.

  13. I think Polar bears, like the rest of us, do try to get along and live an honest life. However, those bears that disobey the law should be punished with a fine and/or imprisonment.
    On the other hand Polar bears who commit major crimes such as murder and cannibalism should be prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law: Life Imprisonment with no chance of parole. Sorry, this seems harsh, but I feel we have been too lenient, and some bears have, in my opinion, been taking unfair advantage of this.

  15. Reading the lies of the climate guys “Hide the decline”!
    The stories become more mad by the day.

  16. Sterling?? Isn’t that the guy the warmists excluded from the last conference so they could listen with rapt attention to the guy from Colorado, who had never visited Canada or Alaska?
    Carnivores, especially adult males routinely kill and eat young bears….always have always will….
    Any farmer will tell you that a visiting tom will, swiftly abd thoroughly,eliminate the current crop of barn cat kittens. The screeching and yowling as this proceeds is memorable—the ma cats, especially…..the “aunties” are very hostile to this activity.
    This summer, the dog spent the summer on the chain and $***list for killing cats. Then I spotted a coyotte beside the barn eating something…his last meal was a kitten…….
    These bed-wetting, handwriggers should get out more…..

  17. Mass marketing of snake oil.
    Like the sleazy huckster on the soap box except the soap box is the entire media complex.
    They’ve managed to invent a disease that will kill us all and only they have the cure for what ails us – green socialism.

  18. You can’t enforce state socialism with the barrel of a gun, after all. Tried that, didn’t work.
    Plan B is enforcing it with a metaphorical gun: embrace socialism or you will all die, not by our hand but your own. Don’t believe us? Just ask our “scientists”.
    The hand picked “correct” scientists that is. All others are banished, not to be mentioned in polite discourse.

  21. Soviet Canuckistan isn’t on their list! I feel cheated! You gotta laugh when the Huffington Post comes up under “organization”.

  23. Goreacle Report: Ozland pricks AGWFraud.
    …-
    “Pitchfork revolt punctures the carbon bubble
    THE Rudd-Turnbull greenhouse gas emissions deal is supposed to give business the certainty it needs to pour billions of dollars into transforming Australia into a low-carbon economy. But, like the conservative political revolt it has triggered, the course of Australia’s biggest policy upheaval in a generation is anything but certain.
    As Penny Wong yesterday told the Senate, the politically constructed emissions trading market needs broad community support to provide business with confidence that it will last beyond the multi-decade horizon for expensive low-carbon investments. But this confidence will be undermined by the pitchfork revolt against the threat to Australia’s carbon-intensive resource and regional economies, the upstream source of the nation’s wealth.
    Next month’s Copenhagen summit is considered unlikely to nail down a credible deal to substantially reduce global emissions, given Barack Obama does not have congressional authority to deliver much of substance. That could leave Australia in front of comparable countries such as the US, Canada and New Zealand.
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    As well, no one is sure what will happen when Australia pushes the button on full permit trading from mid-2012. The price of permits could swing sharply, as in Europe, potentially eroding low-carbon investment confidence. Amid rising electricity prices, any disruption to coal-fired baseload power supplies would politically shake the system.
    Finally, the stain left by Rudd-Turnbull deal includes a precedent of concessions extracted by industries seeking protection from the new carbon impost. If the scheme stumbles, business lobbies will figure the government is receptive to demands for more favours.
    Economist and Reserve Bank of Australia board member Warwick McKibbin warns the Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme is “fundamentally unstable”, the price of permits will be “inherently volatile” and the Copenhagen agenda is in “total disarray”. “The political fallout from this is going to lead to changes,” he says.
    For geographical and political reasons, Australia does not have the hydro or nuclear alternatives to replace coal-fired baseload electricity. That makes it more costly for us to cut emissions compared with the US, Europe and Japan. That increases the risk of “leakage” of our carbon-intensive industries offshore to developing economies, such as China, where emissions restrictions are less stringent.”
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/pitchfork-revolt-punctures-the-carbon-bubble/story-e6frg6zo-1225804740435

  25. I signed the petition with “prosecuting lying scientists, now that really” gives me hope.

  26. I’ve seen mother black bears chase their cubs up a tree when there is a male of the species anywhere abouts. In the Arctic Bay, there aren’t too many trees around (as the crows will attest) so it is possible, one supposes that there is some cannibalization among polar bears also.

  27. What is it with the MSM and it’s fetish on strange animal eating behaviour?
    Yesterday CBC (spit) carried the ‘amazing’ wordy story of the pregnant male pipe fish…eating the babies.Only it wasn’t blamed on Bush or AGW.

  30. The most demonstrable crisis caused by global warming is the mass insanity which has struck the progressive left – obviously inhaling too much CO2 causes irreparable brain damage in humans of leftist genetic make up.

  33. I signed the petition and wrote- Copenhagen climate liar’s. They added ” gives me hope”.

  34. This am on the news some econut was asserting that the ice in the artic is almost gone, when confronted with a sat picture where the artic is covered in ice the wingnut asserted it’s not real ice. Apparently he thinks it’s not ice because it’s crust ice ergo to thin for the polar bears to walk on. LOL the warm-mongers are getting absolutely retarded with their assertions and lies.

  35. Female dogs/cats sometimes eat their offspring … some kind of hormonal imbalance … Male dogs/cats will do the same. No doubt, the same with polar bears and other members of the animal kingdom.
    Heck, humans abort their babies. Is that better than eating them?
    I just wrote to Prime Minister Stephen Harper about not signing onto the bamboozling AGW fraud and get-rich crap in Copenhagen. E-mail him at:
    pm@pm.gc.ca

  37. batb: “Heck, humans abort their babies. Is that better than eating them?”
    Ha!
    Touché!
    100,000 abortions a year in Canada alone.

  38. Just a stupid question. Have you ever been on a transcontinental flight to europe?
    Ever look out the window about half way.
    Did you happen to notice that frozen waste land below you.
    Talk about flyover country.

  40. Hopen Hagen…jeez, now there’s a name from the past! I thought Hopen Hagen fell off the face of the earth after her album “Nunsexmonkrock” back in the early 80’s…
    Wait…HOPEN Hagen? I’m thinking of NINA Hagen.
    Nevermind.

  41. This is not news. Eating the young is very common in the animal world. It happens not only with predators like bears and lions, also with rodents, fish, reptiles, etc.

  43. Re the melting ice. Wasn’t there a ship of tourists that got caught in an ice jam recently. Took days before they could be rescued. And didn’t a couple of ladies get stranded a while ago, or run into trouble, for trying to get to the artic and see all the melting ice and those poor polar bears.

  44. In many, many species, members of either sex regular eat their young (or one another). Nature figured out a long time ago the evolutionary and survival significance of this event. NOTHING to do with global warming and EVERYTHING to do with remaining the alpha male or female. Humans used to do it too, but now, “highly evolved” as we are, we only do it metaphorically. What do think Copenhagen is all about?

  45. Sasquatch at 4:42
    Just to add further…
    What livestock farmer doesn’t know that a bovine (herbivore) will expell its afterbirth and happily devour it.
    But didn’t John Lennon’s woman Loco Oh-No do the same thing and it went bad in the fridge before she ate it?

  46. Cows eat afterbirth for self preservation. If left lying around, the smell would attract predators. It’s one of the last, real, animal instincts that cows still possess.
    When I was about 7 years old, I watched one of our cats eat her kittens. My dad shot her, and never explained the episode very well. I just assumed the cat wasn’t too bright, and that’s still the way I view this subject.
    While reading that hopenhagen petition, I made an odd observation. The deadline they use is the year 2020, which, by coincidence, is also the deadline for the Islamic takeover of Australia. An Australian acquaintance told me a story of muslim immigrants, in Australia, using the greeting “twenty twenty”. His sister had worked for a Christian charity, that helps immigrants adjust. When they handed gift packages to women with bags on their heads, the women all took them and said “twenty twenty”. She decided to do some research, and found out it’s their battle cry, so to speak. There’s just something about biting the hand that feeds you, that I really detest.

  47. Yes cows eat their afterbirth and on occasion kill their newborn offspring. An old vet friend explained that eating the afterbirth helps the cow with nursing her calf and that on occasion the old cow gets confused and thinks that her newborn is attacking her calf and so kills it. Course that was long before the AGW so maybe cow’s behaviour has changed….

  48. Joe- All herd animals eat their afterbirth. It’s just housekeeping, nothing else. The smell tips off predators that a newborn is on the buffet. The quicker they return to normal behaviour, the less likely a jackal, coyote, etc. will pick up on the moment of vulnerability. It has no connection with animals eating their young.
    I’d like to see some evidence that polar bears are really doing this. It’s easy to make these claims, when it’s supposedly happening away from public scrutiny. The easiest thing for skeptics to do, is just call B.S.

  50. I just turned on the radio here in Vancouver for a moment and heard CKNW’s Sean Leslie announce his program for the afternoon. I immediately sent him this e-mail, which should be fairly self-explanatory to you all:
    Sean,
    The biggest news story in the world right now is ClimateGate. You do understand this, right? If for some reason you do not, here are two primmers for you:
    * http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/012714.html
    * http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/peer-221438-reviewed-climate.html
    Yet with this happening you’re having a conversation with the Suzuki Foundation’s Climate Change “specialist” Ian Bruce?!?
    I’ve got to say that you appear to have some very strange priorities,
    Robert W.
    Vancouver, BC

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