Even TorStar Says “Doomed”

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Both sides of the gun-control debate believe the Conservatives now have enough Commons votes to give parliamentary approval in principle to a private member’s bill to kill the registry for rifles and shotguns.
The vote late Wednesday is on the second reading of the bill, which would send it to a committee for more study and possible amendment before it comes back to the Commons, and later the Senate, for a final decision.

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Update, via email – “House of Commons just passed the private members bill to scrap the long gun registry 164 to 137.One down, several steps to go.”
Related: A reader emails to point out the photo the Calgary Herald chose to illustrate the story;

Because weapons owned by drug traffickers make up such a large part of the registry, I presume.
In the comments – “Dear Senators, This Jan I refill the chamber. Bang. Stephen”
(Bang!)

90 Replies to “Even TorStar Says “Doomed””

  2. “The registry was established as part of an overhaul of gun laws after the 1989 Montreal massacre.”
    Better immigration rules would probably have prevented the Montreal Massacre. The real problem wasn’t the gun, it was the guy carrying the gun.

  4. “the annual cost saving could be $2.9 million a year, or less.”
    Apparently, the RCMP describe this saving as “minimal”. Minimal?? $2.9 million freed up by turfing this absolutely useless legislation hardly qualifies as minimal by anyone’s standards.
    I notice that Saskatchewan’s lone Liberal is not going to support the bill. What a surprise!

  5. It would be a shame if the lone liberals constituents fail to support him in the next election…

  6. Goodale has been an arrogant windbag during his entire political career yet he manages to get re-elected with ease. This says more about his constituents than it does about him.

  7. Doomed ?
    Demise?
    No mention of the Liberals’ $Billion dollar slush fund the gun registry spawned!
    And they wonder why we mock them.
    No wonder they are restructuring .
    [ “This will involve what is likely to be the biggest restructuring of the Star’s workforce in its history.”]
    [ He also said that Canada’s largest circulation daily paper is also exploring the possibility of contracting out some work in both copy editing and pagination work. The plans could expand to include editorial content and other production, he added.]
    Editorial?? May I suggest *Kate* !!
    [ Union leader Maureen Dawson criticized the Star’s decision and said the labour group plans to offer alternatives to the planned outsourcing move.
    “Journalism is a collaborative effort, the product of a team of reporters, photographers and editors working in concert to produce the kind of activist agenda that has served Star readers and our community so well for so long,” she said.]
    Activist Agenda !!?? I thought Journalism was about ‘reporting’.

  8. What I want to know is this…
    What happened to the almost TWO THOUSAND MILLION DOLLARS that it cost to set this boondoggle up?
    Where, who, etc?
    Why can’t we follow the money?

  9. This is great news for those who oppose the nanny state, and those who oppose wasteful government spending, and those who oppose the right to self-protection.

  10. oops, correction
    This is great news for those who oppose the nanny state, and those who oppose wasteful government spending, and those who support the right to self-protection.

  12. Now, Now!! Mustn’t talk about the retirement nest feathering that went on during the great gun registry rip off.
    While everyone was in panic mode about “Police State” stuff, there was a smooth removal of a few billion dollars of tax payer money which was accompanied by a refusal to account for it.

  13. I have been waiting for this registry to be killed since 2006, being a law abiding citizen who was made a criminal by the Liberals and their useless Long Gun Registry.
    I was glad to see Iffy touch on this issue today … yet another Liberal that is completely out of touch with Rural Canada.

  15. Hmmm. This could make for a very interesting situation in the senate. Probably will see it delayed until a majority of senators are appointed.

  16. Oh, great. This means that my evening news is going to be contaminated by the presence of Wendy Cukier again, doesn’t it?
    Barf!

  20. Well, sadly this probably will come back to bite the Tories in the nether region during the upcoming election.
    People in the big cities in general don’t have common sense or understand things – so it will look like “Tories Are Bad ‘Cause They’re Clinging to Their Guns”.

  21. But but but there are millions of criminals out there with unregestered rifles and shotguns. We can’t just forgive them. Wouldn’t that be soft on crime/sarcasm off.
    Be one less thing for me to worry about.

  22. Look, Toronto mayor David Miller shut down that shooting range in Union Station that no one knew about, so there’s no need for the long gun registry anymore – gun crime has been put to bed in the big smoke!
    ‘Cept for those two gun murders the last two nights . . .

  23. Eric, You bet I am CLINGING to my firearms … and not registering them so that the ‘gunz r bad’ Leftards can never take them away.
    5:30 today will be then end of the 2 Billion Dollar Long Gun registry that only registered half of the firearms in Canada.

  24. The Montreal massacre,wasn’t that orchestrated by Marc Lepine…oh wait,that wasn’t his name,what was it that he changed it to?

  25. An interesting article that explains why certain groups and bureaucrats support things like the gun registry.
    http://www.jpfo.org/kirby/kirby-know-enemy.htm
    ”
    SECURITY MONOPOLISTS
    Security monopolists are those members and representatives of public and private security providing concerns who want the means of self protection out of private hands so that they can command high fees for protecting the citizenry against the rising tide of crime. These profiteers stand to loose a great deal of capital if citizens can efficiently defend themselves. To the security monopolist, each criminal who enters and exits the revolving door of justice is a renewable source of revenue providing jobs for police, social workers, victim counsellors, judges, prison employees, security guards, burglar alarm installers, locksmiths, and others employed by the security monopolies or their satellite organizations. No wonder it is so common for an honest citizen to be more ruthlessly hounded by the authorities when he shoots a criminal in self defense than a criminal who shoots honest citizens.”

  26. h.ryan.
    Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharbi was Marc Lepines real name. The womens movement tried to paint this killing spree as if it was just typical Canadian male violence towards women. Not the work of an insane Algerian Muslim who was brought up to hate women.
    In typical Liberal fashion they went after the duck hunters in the sticks and people firing target pistols at ranges. Plus they stole a couple billion dollars in the process.

  28. “Can’t you just sense the Liberal bitterness? :D”
    Michael, FYI, Bitterness is the trait of conservatives; Liberals couldn’t care less. The gun registry is yesterday’s news…get over it!
    Western Grit is just a stupid blogger and certainly not representative of liberalism. It’s no wonder you rightoids get so bent out of shape.

  29. Has anyone else noticed how nice it has been since the gov’t has stopped funding all the mouthpieces on a mission like Wendy the Kook? I think it should be enshrined in our constitution that no mouthpiece on a mission shall have access to taxpayer’s money.
    Ya wanna change the world? Good for you. Now do it on your own dime.

  30. “Michael, FYI, Bitterness is the trait of conservatives; Liberals couldn’t care less. The gun registry is yesterday’s news…get over it!”
    “Bitterness?” “Couldn’t care less?” Heh. One look at the Liblogs aggregator tells an ENTIRELY different narrative. The Tories aggregator, on the other hand, is nothing if not ecstatic. And for good reason; we’ll be “getting over it” when the vote to repeal this sinkhole farce of a law is DONE.
    “Western Grit is just a stupid blogger and certainly not representative of liberalism.”
    When you lay with pigs………well, you know the saying. 😀
    “It’s no wonder you rightoids get so bent out of shape.”
    Us “rightoids” are absolutley content with the way things are playing out. One look at the Liblogs aggregator, as the blogger in question is a member of, tells us all here who the ones are that have swallowed their bitter pills today. 😀

  31. “Western Grit is just a stupid blogger and certainly not representative of liberalism. It’s no wonder you rightoids get so bent out of shape.”
    Completely false. You see that attitude FAR more often than any sort of reasonable and balanced view on ANY liberal forum.

  32. Stirred
    Are you suggesting that the aforementioned registry was and is a waste of money and needs to be scrapped?
    If your answer is yes then I commend you and the Liberals for a well played, although expensive political ploy. If you answer no then I wonder how you can so easily absolve yourself of caring; after all, what about the children?

  33. Hey Kate, thanks for the linky! This is my favorite hobby horse, its nice to see more than my usual reader looking at it.
    Hey stirred, come troll at my place, see what happens to ya!

  34. Hate to be a downer but it has to make it through the Senate and those folks don’t have to face voters.

  36. “Dear Senators, This Jan I refill the chamber. Bang. Stephen”
    Senate can only block for a few more months.

  38. SECURITY MONOPOLISTS.via gunny99
    me thinks you forgot the biggest trough suckers in your scenario….the f’ing lawyers.

  39. does this mean we get our two billion dollars back?
    As soon as we get back the $100 Billion
    rural conservative welfare bums have mooched
    from taxpayers during the same time frame.

  41. Let’s not forget that dear leader steve,
    in one year, borrowed $3 Billion to fund rec room renovations
    as part of his biggest deficit in Canadian history.
    Conservatives concerned about wasteful spending?
    SDA, proving yet again, a conservative scratched is a hypocrite revealed.

  42. I noticed that clammy hands Ralph from Regina voted nay. The voters in his riding are almost all government union workers.

  44. My question would be this: If the registry is voted down because it was simply another liberal kick-back scheme (which it absolutely was), what happens to the people who have been convicted of failing to register their guns?

  46. One more Harper promise kept. Fellow Conservatives can now jump back on the bandwagon and stop your grumbling for a while. Harper’s long range plan is slowly being accomplished.

  50. *
    oh… my… gawd…
    stand by for a flood of fully-choked goose guns
    to hit the mean streets of northwest Toronto.
    *

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