“Doesn’t it make you proud to be Scottish?”
“Some hate the English. I don’t. They’re just wankers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by wankers. Can’t even find a decent culture to be colonized BY. We’re ruled by effete assholes. It’s a SHITE state of affairs to be in, Tommy, and ALL the fresh air in the world won’t make any fucking difference! “ *
Don’t let this die with all the other news! I wasn’t kidding about the boycott- esp. BP Petroleum!
SEt you free: you know, I didn’t even pay attention to your post; just got done reading some of the British and Scottish papers, and got an eyeful — but nothing really outstandingly different from a lot of the other stuff I’ve read for the past decade or so. So I wasn’t even basing my response on what you’d written.
From what I’ve read, there is apparently some major oil deal in the works for BP — but vile as that is, that has nothing to do with the tenor of some of the comments.
I remember when Lockerbie happened — I felt horrid for the people on that plane, not even knowing the majority were Americans — it was a short snippet that a plane had crashed, and most of my friends and I speculated it was the IRA that did it, and we felt awful for “the poor Brits on that flight”. When it came out later in the day that the majority were Americans didn’t change the sadness I felt for the victims, just brought it closer to home.
But now I’m beginning to realize that where a victim is from is more important than the fact that they are victims, and even whether or not they should be considered “victims”.
It’s an isolated incident. They have hospitals in prisons–if the guy was duying–that’s where he should have died. If the Scots screwed up, the Scots are the ones who should who should a suffer the consequences for their actions. I’m sure the CIA has plans by now!!
It’s an isolated incident. They have hospitals in prisons–if the guy was dying–that’s where he should have died. If the Scots screwed up, the Scots are the ones who should who should a suffer the consequences for their actions. I’m sure the CIA has plans by now!!
Ain’t it wonderful that the Scot’s have compassion for this dying man. Kinda like throwing pearls before swine, as far as hoping that “they’ll like us” though.
I’m kind of torn by this. I like the idea of compassion but I also like punishment for a crime done. Does that mean that every hideous monster gets out when they get terminally ill?
“Does that mean that every hideous monster gets out when they get terminally ill?
Posted by: Pat at August 20, 2009 7:02 PM ”
Pat…..preferably they would…..after the disease is no longer terminal!
unknown jane said “But now I’m beginning to realize that where a victim is from is more important than the fact that they are victims,”
I wouldn’t really say that. The victims are important but when your people are targeted then it’s more important to you because you could also be a target or you could know the victims. I remember hearing about it and time stopped. I have family living in the area plus I thought the plane might be full of Scots. The sense of relief never tempered the level of anger at the perpetrators.
Of course the daily news seems to decide what level of outrage the general public should have depending who the victims are. The normal reaction would be to feel sorry for the victims and their families. Normal people have empathy for people facing tragedy. It’s only psycho’s who wouldn’t feel sorry for these victims. Unfortunately the world seems to be run by psycho’s. Well the newspapers anyway.
I think it’s time to dust off the Declaration of Arbroath and make the idiots who pulled this stunt off read it.
Then the remaining sane Scots need to take steps to put its intent into place to ensure that this BS never happens again.
“He got the prostate cancer from eating bacon for breakfast.” Pass it on.
Hey don’t be so hard on him, Obama’s looking out for us!
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bb5dac38-8d94-11de-93df-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1
Please, most men diagnosed with prostate cancer die of another old age system failure first. It’s a very encapsulated and slow growing cancer taking decades to kill you. I’m not buying a word of his imminent death scenario.
Bottomline is that the British lefty slimes in power cut a slimeball terrorist for oil deal.
Hating our socialist overlords is a matter of morality and human decency. They are amoral pigs, we are not. It matters.
It’s the British disease………….
Real Scotts Like Michael Kerr and Glasgow cabbie Alex McIlveen don’t have bleeding heart problems.
McIlveen booted one of the knobs in the nuts in that fracas.
Folks, this and much like it, is what happens when we let effete limp-wrists and their Marxist fellow-travellers run things. While we were sleeping 50 years ago, they entered the educational system and taught their philosophy. Now we see the results in the media, justice system, educational system and elsewhere. Hopefully, the western world wakes up and sees that the death of western civilization or large areas of it will disappear in the coming decades.
Correction – We weren’t colonized by “Those wankers”.
Our ancestors ran away from them.
Hope they refueled the plane with water.
Okay, haggis is officially off my menu.
my only hope is that he has the H1N1 along with the cancer to tack back home.
No, they kinna tek away our haggis!
Ken pretty well sums it up. Although we weren’t all sleeping. The people who saw it all coming couldn’t convince our sleeping friends what was around the corner. Then again that’s because our sleeping friends don’t read about history which means they don’t really understand what’s going on or where this leads. Which reaffirms what Ken said. They bad guys entered the education system.
Penny said. “Hating our socialist overlords is a matter of morality and human decency.”
I just wanted to repeat that.
The Highland Clearances were mentioned earlier and well… it was ALL about the sheep… so it should come as no surprise that the Highland spirit of Scotland is now that of the animal that replaced the people of the land.
Somewhere, John Knox is complaining to the Management and is being counseled patience.
By releasing this mongrel, they are compounding the suffering of the victims and giving confidence to monsters who think blowing up people is a perfectly reasonable response to things.
What the hell is wrong with people?
And he get’s a hero’s welcome upon landing in Libya:
Hot Air
What the hell in deed?
This is how a people who invented soccor by using war fallen foes heads for a ball, & human toso’s for posts. Ends.
Appeasers hoping to stave off their inevatable extinction by new barbarians.
Maybe we can get the US to send a ‘special delivery’ via an unmanned Predator to the ‘overjoyed house that is full to bursting’, and while we’re at it, now with improved technology, Khaddafi’s tent might also be in for a long awaited make-over.
My husband is very white and plus every body see him think he look like English some said Scottish or say is he Irish while he is not
Face of English and some German and original Aryan are similar face
While color never matter to me I noticed he gain alot by his look in Canadian society
Which I sometimes noticed how much people go by color and look of person to deal with him or her
People who are very white skin are similar behavior some times no matter where they come from
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I know live here long English and Irish and Scotish and Welsh and etc are not the same and not like each otehr well indeed pull thier culture stil
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There’s no one as Irish as Barack OBama- Corrigan Brothers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xkw8ip43Vk
This is funny film and made me laugh when I watched that
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In fact I meet so many people in Canada and see in relationship to doing business with Muslim as follows:
In my experience I saw Irish are more kind and more funny to me make you laugh people but if money come take your business easier than others
Keep them in business decision made sure have good lawyer if they bother you in between
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_English
In my experience I find them very polite, smart and never like to do business contact with Muslim or ever politely and penny less and good to used them for
Accounting not in business decision are tough serious people some I saw selfish to think about themselves more than others
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9uMJovuA_Y
Welsh are good people just order and ask with big cost and profit and lower with you but are honest people must respect them alot
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqfIjMJb88Y
http://www.eng.umu.se/city/Fredrik/city/scottish.htm
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English are good doctors and business and judge not to force them in time limit they do not do so many jobs in compare with us
Their women hard working but bossy and men are polite and not show up what is in their heart
This is my expertise with people I deal with them
Still with one glance I can not understand their look can be mix but their accent and their behavior show who they are and where they come from
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If the English women who most of them do not like Muslim women if their behavior get little bit changed we can expect their men changed easier because they are proud sometimes for nothing and I can not pretend to lie to some one when they deal with me, problmes wil get resolved sooner.
Boycott all products made in Scotland.
Posted by: Mortimer
expand that boycott to all British products with Blair and BP involved.
Posted by: Mortimer
Gee, mort, why not just limit yourself to only buying products advertised on Glenn Beck’s show. But I guess there isn’t much nutritional value in Shamwows.
But let’s juxtapose, shall we.
On July 3, 1988, the Vincennes (Captain William C. Rogers III) shot down Iran Air Flight 655 Iran Air 655, carrying 290 passengers.
In 1990, President George H. W. Bush awarded Capt. Rogers the Legion of Merit decoration “for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer … from April 1987 to May 1989.”
On Wednesday 21 December 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was destroyed by a bomb, killing all 243 passengers and 16 crew members.[1] Eleven people in Lockerbie, southern Scotland, were killed as large sections of the plane fell in and around the town, bringing total fatalities to 270. As a result, the event has been named by the media as the Lockerbie Bombing.
In 2001, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, a Libyan, was convicted of involvement in the bombing and sentenced to life imprisonment.
What, no tears for the murdered victims of Iran Air 665? Oh right, they were brown, and poor and didn’t speak ‘Merican.
Just sent MacAskill(hole) and the entire Scottish Parliament a note suggesting that the world might (today) be a better place if ole’ Kenny was among the victims (God rest their souls).
Not terribly subtle, but , hey, I’m like that sometimes….
Interpol – come get me.
But let’s juxtapose, shall we.
On July 3, 1988, the Vincennes (Captain William C. Rogers III) shot down Iran Air Flight 655 Iran Air 655, carrying 290 passengers.
In 1990, President George H. W. Bush awarded Capt. Rogers the Legion of Merit decoration “for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer … from April 1987 to May 1989.”
On Wednesday 21 December 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was destroyed by a bomb, killing all 243 passengers and 16 crew members.[1] Eleven people in Lockerbie, southern Scotland, were killed as large sections of the plane fell in and around the town, bringing total fatalities to 270. As a result, the event has been named by the media as the Lockerbie Bombing.
In 2001, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, a Libyan, was convicted of involvement in the bombing and sentenced to life imprisonment.
What, no tears for the murdered victims of Iran Air 665? Oh right, they were brown, and poor and didn’t speak ‘Merican.
Oh- gee whiz phil-boy- that couldn’t have been the airliner headed straight towards the American warship during the Gulf-war could it have been??? Oh me-oh my- I’ve never heard of anyone from that part of the world using human shields???
that couldn’t have been the airliner headed straight towards the American warship during the Gulf-war could it have been??
What Gulf War was the US militarily engaged in, in 1988, mort?
Speaking of Iran, thousands are still marching in the streets.
sandmonkey.org has the pictures to prove it.
But of course, the Iranian passenger jet. That seems to be the moral equivalence of the day today.
We were guarding the Straits of Hormuz at the time, and the jet was hailed — more than once, more than twice. It never returned the hails, and it was flying roughly the same trajectory as Iranian fighters used out of the same airport. It was very sad and there were definitely very awful mistakes made I won’t deny that, but the crux of the matter is there was no intent to shoot down a passenger jet involved; there was no command to go out and shoot down a passenger jet, no impetus to do it just to do it. I don’t believe that was the same situation as what happened in Lockerbie.
I do realize however that is the justification for many people, and the rationalization for their satisfaction. This is yet another example of what has led me to my present thoughts on the matter.
jane:
The moral equivalence of marxist agitators like philboy knows no shame.
Well, well. The British do have a price.
Saad Djebbar (linked article) is correct; Britain and Scotland will grow in the eyes of the Arab states, but only has a country whose people — some anyway — will trade their principles for a wad of cash.
This does not bode well at all.
“Some hate the English. I don’t.” it said in above title of this comment
the funny thing about peopel who say thier opionion about other people nobody like them and one of the reason peopel do not like English or American may because they interfer to some body else country busienss as they think they will help or direct them and has freedom to say their opinion freely as fact is sometimes painfull to hear
other funny thing I saw among English they like to go to , African country and Indian, Pakistan or among Arab countries or Iran while English are more welcome in Canada and Austrila or America
as much they go any where they like to go in differtn countries or race and colur
if so many Muslim planed to have neighborhood to English people you will see within two years all will go to farm and live far from Muslim to live with them they donot like to be in neighborhood with Muslim in Canada if Muslim find good price and become neighbor with rich high class English soon you will see their house FOR SALE which is make it fuuny
In conclsion what they do it to you they do not like to do it to them in thier own country but when they go to other counry they like to find way to link with them well outside of England USA and Canada not within country
they are not shame to even when you come close to thier table change their seat proof they do not like you to get close to them they act defensive
Ken and Penny expressed my thoughts on this egregious transgression of Justice. The Scottish people have always been more like cats than sheep – infighting is a tradition! – I am Scottish so I have 1st hand knowledge. Radical Union and uncomprimizing individualism are hallmarks of Scottish people.
Scotland the Brave is at a very LOW point in history, today – the nation of Sir William Wallace sold out to the English – again.
I am in support of his being released as he only has 3 months to live. No difference to letting out the great train robber.
pillboy asks: “What Gulf War was the US militarily engaged in, in 1988…”
The one where Regan had to bomb the hell out of Momar Qaddafi’s house in 1986? Which Pan Am flight 103 was -revenge- for?
Or was it the one where the Iranian “students” held 53 Americans hostage until 1981 and Ronnie “Raygun” Regan got elected president, phoned them up and told them there was a new sheriff in town? We are still fighting that one, in case you hadn’t noticed.
Proving, once again, that pillboy is a mentally challenged kid living in his mum’s basement. Unlike you I lived through that time, pillboy. I remember it pretty well.
new, you live in the LEAST racist part of the LEAST racist country in the entire f-ing world. If people in Toronto are changing tables to get away from you, you’re definetly acting weird.
Maybe if you stopped making an effort to stand out as both different and HOSTILE, people would stop looking at you funny. We aren’t all Muslims here, so deal with it.
You wanna be a nun, join a convent. You wanna fit in with the rest of us, then fit in. Kids with green hair and 200 piercings get treated the same way you do, and for the same reason: they look funny.
Philboy writes:
“On Wednesday 21 December 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was destroyed by a bomb, killing all 243 passengers and 16 crew members.[1] Eleven people in Lockerbie, southern Scotland, were killed as large sections of the plane fell in and around the town, bringing total fatalities to 270. As a result, the event has been named by the media as the Lockerbie Bombing.
In 2001, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, a Libyan, was convicted of involvement in the bombing and sentenced to life imprisonment.
What, no tears for the murdered victims of Iran Air 665? Oh right, they were brown, and poor and didn’t speak ‘Merican.”
What an ass. You are comparing an accident committed by a man defending his ship to an intentional act of murder/terrorism ?
You can thank Jimmy Carter for those deaths, as well as over a million other dead Iranians and Iraqis. I bet Jimmy Carter is one of your’s though, so naturally he bears no responsibility for the deaths caused by his stupidity.
Somebody must be spiking the haggis. Maybe it’s time to rebuild Hadrian’s Wall to keep the Scottish lunacy contained.
Pillboy, asstard, new troll, big deal, NEXT!
We are ignoring another explanation. Perhaps El-Megrahi was framed to paint the Libyans as a scapegoat.
“The first suspects in the case were the Syrian-led Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), a terror group backed by Iranian cash. But the first Gulf War altered diplomatic relations with Middle East nations, and Libya became the pariah state.”
Police chief – Lockerbie evidence was faked.
http://news.scotsman.com/lockerbie/Police-chief-Lockerbie-evidence-was.2656485.jp
David Frum makes the allegation as well.
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/08/22/david-frum-why-so-little-outcry-from-washington-on-al-megrahi.aspx
It’s simple really, all the Scots, Irish and Brits with some moxie emigrated and made something of themselves in the colonies, what remained behind in England were the ones that became wankers, what remained behind in the rest of the UK were too poor or not adventurous enough. That’s my theory as a 2nd gen exodus Brit and I am sticking to it!
Maybe we’ll never know the truth. I was reading Frum this morning about El_Megrahi not being the right man, but they did link El-Megrahi to buying the bomb parts in Malta. Remember this was during the hey day of all those Libyan run terrorist training camps.So the evidence still indicates that they convicted the right man.
Phil-boy…. do you know CheekFlaps? You sound like buds.
The one where Regan had to bomb the hell out of Momar Qaddafi’s house in 1986? Which Pan Am flight 103 was -revenge- for?
Not to mention that 103 was more likely revenge for 655. And oh yes, Phantom, I had forgotten the war criminal/terrorist/child murderer Ronald Reagan wasted Qaddafi’s infant daughter in that attempted hit.
But again… what war? The Vincennes was in Iranian territory trying to provoke Iranian gunboats to engage, providing the US with a Gulf of Tonkin cover. It wasn’t an accident. It wasn’t self defense.
And why were US warships doing that, one might ask?? Why, to intervene on behalf of Reagan’s good friend, Saddam Hussein, in his war of aggression against Iran. Such good friends they were, Saddam assumed he had carte blanche to invade Kuwait two years later. And we all know how that turned out. Yeah, it’s all jimmy Carter’s fault. No doubt Tommy Douglas had his hand in there somewhere.
But let’s juxtapose again, yes?
Irvine Welsh has more writing talent in one of his stool samples than Ayn Rand in her whole miserable existence.
sarge here
down the memory hole…
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/082109a.html
ps ayn rand was a frickin’ amphetamine addict…just like old adolf hitler…as a example of a coouple addled believers in the theory of unter and uber mensch