Regrettably my computer is mute, so I couldn’t hear the commentary.
The sight of thousands of troops goose-stepping in strict synchronization, all wearing precisely the same uniforms, all looking like cloned twins, with not a hint of individualism or free will, must fulfill many collectivists’ wet dreams.
I finally understand Kim Jong-iL. He is the Borg Queen.
I watched this series some time ago. It’s great!
The Russians are far better goose steppers in Red Square.
You can’t have Apocalypse without Apollo Elliptical Frequency Wave Generator. Name copy rights here.
So HAARP ing on about the N. Koreans who do have a large number of people carrying rifles is good in a ground fight but no match in the air. So just send them a little wave of some relaxing ocean sounds and all will be calm.
So if N. Korea is invaded by “only an inch” they will “smite us” eh…what is our great leader to do?
I call shenanigans on this North Korea BS.
Personally, I believe they are not near the threat they project. I would love for the US and S. Korea to call their bluff.
I’ve survived the Cold war. The Russians and the Chinese have nuclear weapons that number a hundredfold of what the Koreans have today. The Americans have enough firepower to destroy Korea 25 times over. The Koreans are like a mouse who tries to rape an Elephant, and at the right moment, he yells out, “Suffer baby, suffer.” We’ll survive this!
All imperialist propaganda perpetrated by the corrupt organization “CIA”. The invincible hero of Mt. Paektu will destroy all capitalist aggressors. He is a great leader and has been known to get four holes in one per 18 round of golf. He was also responsible for the global capitalist recession. And the enterprise “grandma” commercials(don’t well all hate those?).
I’ll watch the videos much later. No time now!
No Pointing. And definitely no smiling, it’s offensive. I would love for the US and S. Korea to call their bluff. ~ Atric
Would you feel the same if your house was within range of the madman’s missle.
Could someone please enlighten me as to what “Vice Guide” means in this context?
Has anyone commented on the fact that the last time one of these ‘glorious leaders’ felt his age creeping up on him, that particular individual committed his nation to an incredibly stupid war on two fronts, prematurely initiating Operation Barbarossa?
When these guys get old, amazing things can and do happen. Oh well, it will be the Democrats problem – certainly not Canada’s or my problem, at least until the fallout drifts over. War is strictly political now – used solely for electioneering purposes – thanks, Dems. Kim Jong-il can nuke the whole bloody world for all I care. Serve the simpletons right, and I’m not talking about Koreans.
And I wonder if Al Gore’s ‘scientists’ factored in a few nuclear exchanges and a little “nuclear winter” into their complex equations ‘proving’ global warming, er, global climate change or whatever?
Absolutely fascinating. The first few episodes were like watching a cartoon. Or, maybe like watching Pink Floyd’s, “The Wall”.
glasnost:
I’m with you, baby! I watched the series, and didn’t see any vice at all!
Maybe it’s being used in an ironic context?
It was a part of the video “The Vice Guide to Travel” or something like that. The bearded guy travels to really dangerous places in the world. Amoung them, he goes to Chernobyl and an arms bazaar in northern Pakistan. Very cool flick.
I have always wondered what life might be like on another planet. I think I just got a glimpse. Those folks have absolutely nothing in common with this world other than they are carbon units like us. That is it.
I can Obama in Kim’s role. He is beginning to act a lot like him.
I am starting to think that this world desperately needs a great big nuclear war to shake out all this insanity and then start over with what’s left.
Can’t be any worse. The last light on this planet, the USA is being snuffed out.
Best we can all hope for is to be lucky enough to be a vice tour guide in that brave new world.
To those who want the Nork’s bluff called or if you believe these madmen are paper tigers, think again. Be careful what you wish for!
Seoul has a population of 10 million, is 40 miles from the Nork border and currently has the largest concentration of artillery in history aimed at it from the North. The German artillery at Stalingrad was a drop in the bucket compared to what Seoul would suffer ……. in a matter of a few hours the capital of South Korea would be rubble. There has to be a better way to get rid of these dangerous crackpots
BCer
“Seoul has a population of 10 million, is 40 miles from the Nork border and currently has the largest concentration of artillery in history aimed at it from the North.”
Indeed the nork “Harts” (Hardened artillery sites) are perhaps the most hardened/fortified gun batteries in history. Well concealed, burrowed into mountains with just the muzzles exposed (only when deployed) they defy easy destruction. These represent difficult, nearly impregnable targets even to smart weapons or tactical nukes. They are so numerous, powerful and long ranged that they not only could devastate Seoul in short order but also successfully support a Nork invasion of the south for about 50 miles.
Seoul has been a hostage for >30 years. That’s why the Norks can get away with almost anything short of a nuclear attack on Japan. Until fairly recently, appeasing them was no big deal but, now that they have both missiles and nukes available for sale to almost anybody, the balance is shifting. It’s a thin reed to grasp but, I’m hoping that the Chinese may become sufficiently alarmed by that to kick their little buddie’s ass and take the place over. That wouldn’t give the Norks a pretext to turn Seoul into rubble, although they might do it anyway, in their national death throes. Cheery prospects, eh?
Nice to see someone keeping the tradition of goose stepping alive.
@glasnost
“Vice” is the name of a free, ad supported, magazine originally started as a counter culture media piece in Montreal, but is now operated out of New York. Since blowing up they have many off-shoots, like Vice TV, which is what this is from.
The target audience would be those around 20-35. The discourse is mainly libertarian, and they’d likely jive well the South Park producers who also made Team America. So while they certainly think North Korea sucks, they…and the guy making this piece, probably also thinks Bush is a fascist. I was surprised to see Kate posting something from Vice, because she is literally the kind of person they would crap all over if she registered on their radar. It’s kind of like Kate linking to a Warren Kinsella video.
Thanks fred.
mwaaat dwah-mon [Matt Damon]
Arex Bawd-win
All kidding aside, N.Korea’s artillery can hit Seoul from where they are on the boarder.
They have 2 million of them.
I would bet that they could each get off 20 or more shots per gun before the South and the Yanks could even start to think about a response and dozens more than that before they could be taken out in any number. In a surprise attack, that would be bad…
Just think about the damage that could do in seconds to a modern industrial city full of skyscrapers.
Seoul is one of the largest cities in the world. It has over 10mm in the city proper and 23mm in the greater area.
“The target audience would be those around 20-35. The discourse is mainly libertarian, and they’d likely jive well the South Park producers who also made Team America. So while they certainly think North Korea sucks, they…and the guy making this piece, probably also thinks Bush is a fascist. I was surprised to see Kate posting something from Vice, because she is literally the kind of person they would crap all over if she registered on their radar. It’s kind of like Kate linking to a Warren Kinsella video.”
I fear, “fred’, that you have entirely missed the point. This is not about Bush, or the US, or us. It’s about North Korea.
I think Shane’s presence in these videos is what makes them so effective: he is the ultimate outsider looking in. A dweeby, earnest, MSM journalist type would simply not give these videos the same touch.
I mean, c’mon, 150,000 North Koreans performing arirang in front of a guy who could pass for a Stones’ roadie…
I look forward to watching the rest of this video series, but in this first part, the commentator has said some things that are flatly untrue. You CAN visit North Korea. It’s not easy and I wouldn’t try it as an American, but you can travel through China and eventually get an official tour of the DPRK. There are many blogs on the internet with pictures and info on tours people have taken. The other problem I have is inference that North Korea would kick the South’s butt. Bull Shit. It would be a seriously nasty mess, but the South Korean military along with the U.S. forces are better armed, better equipped and better trained and would make short work of the very old (50s-60s) raggedy Soviet era equipment. The North’s only strength is in numbers and fanaticism and we’d have to mow them down in waves. The video and some of the comments makes it sound like South Korea just sits around and pulls it’s pud when it comes to defense. Because of my time in the Army on the Korean peninsula, I know this is simply not true.
andy,
Firstly, you could level all of N.Korea and they lose nothing of value.
10 minutes of the north shelling Seoul and the south loses. Superior power only punishes the North for the damage done. It isn’t a fair trade-off.
Secondly, the only way to get a tour of the North is to prove political bona fides, be watched at all times (with “minders”,) only be allowed to photograph that which they want you to show (and nothing else) and other useful idiot activities.
If your goal is to show reality on film (like journalists are supposed to do but don’t,) you ain’t gonna go there. If you would like to be the next Walter Duranty, send your resume to the NYT before Obama has to bail them out, too.
just think, people are offended if you believe in Jesus.
Amazing!
I visited the DMZ in the early 90’s. I read a few comments about the north as well. Ever since, I have wanted a peek into the North. Eerie and surreal sums it up pretty nicely.
Imagine, a dozen rooms of splendor and displays of magnificence for two scruffy Americans in a country that can’t feed itself.
Regrettably my computer is mute, so I couldn’t hear the commentary.
The sight of thousands of troops goose-stepping in strict synchronization, all wearing precisely the same uniforms, all looking like cloned twins, with not a hint of individualism or free will, must fulfill many collectivists’ wet dreams.
I finally understand Kim Jong-iL. He is the Borg Queen.
I watched this series some time ago. It’s great!
The Russians are far better goose steppers in Red Square.
You can’t have Apocalypse without Apollo Elliptical Frequency Wave Generator. Name copy rights here.
So HAARP ing on about the N. Koreans who do have a large number of people carrying rifles is good in a ground fight but no match in the air. So just send them a little wave of some relaxing ocean sounds and all will be calm.
So if N. Korea is invaded by “only an inch” they will “smite us” eh…what is our great leader to do?
I call shenanigans on this North Korea BS.
Personally, I believe they are not near the threat they project. I would love for the US and S. Korea to call their bluff.
I’ve survived the Cold war. The Russians and the Chinese have nuclear weapons that number a hundredfold of what the Koreans have today. The Americans have enough firepower to destroy Korea 25 times over. The Koreans are like a mouse who tries to rape an Elephant, and at the right moment, he yells out, “Suffer baby, suffer.” We’ll survive this!
All imperialist propaganda perpetrated by the corrupt organization “CIA”. The invincible hero of Mt. Paektu will destroy all capitalist aggressors. He is a great leader and has been known to get four holes in one per 18 round of golf. He was also responsible for the global capitalist recession. And the enterprise “grandma” commercials(don’t well all hate those?).
I’ll watch the videos much later. No time now!
No Pointing. And definitely no smiling, it’s offensive.
I would love for the US and S. Korea to call their bluff. ~ Atric
Would you feel the same if your house was within range of the madman’s missle.
Could someone please enlighten me as to what “Vice Guide” means in this context?
Has anyone commented on the fact that the last time one of these ‘glorious leaders’ felt his age creeping up on him, that particular individual committed his nation to an incredibly stupid war on two fronts, prematurely initiating Operation Barbarossa?
When these guys get old, amazing things can and do happen. Oh well, it will be the Democrats problem – certainly not Canada’s or my problem, at least until the fallout drifts over. War is strictly political now – used solely for electioneering purposes – thanks, Dems. Kim Jong-il can nuke the whole bloody world for all I care. Serve the simpletons right, and I’m not talking about Koreans.
And I wonder if Al Gore’s ‘scientists’ factored in a few nuclear exchanges and a little “nuclear winter” into their complex equations ‘proving’ global warming, er, global climate change or whatever?
Absolutely fascinating. The first few episodes were like watching a cartoon. Or, maybe like watching Pink Floyd’s, “The Wall”.
glasnost:
I’m with you, baby! I watched the series, and didn’t see any vice at all!
Maybe it’s being used in an ironic context?
It was a part of the video “The Vice Guide to Travel” or something like that. The bearded guy travels to really dangerous places in the world. Amoung them, he goes to Chernobyl and an arms bazaar in northern Pakistan. Very cool flick.
I have always wondered what life might be like on another planet. I think I just got a glimpse. Those folks have absolutely nothing in common with this world other than they are carbon units like us. That is it.
I can Obama in Kim’s role. He is beginning to act a lot like him.
I am starting to think that this world desperately needs a great big nuclear war to shake out all this insanity and then start over with what’s left.
Can’t be any worse. The last light on this planet, the USA is being snuffed out.
Best we can all hope for is to be lucky enough to be a vice tour guide in that brave new world.
To those who want the Nork’s bluff called or if you believe these madmen are paper tigers, think again. Be careful what you wish for!
Seoul has a population of 10 million, is 40 miles from the Nork border and currently has the largest concentration of artillery in history aimed at it from the North. The German artillery at Stalingrad was a drop in the bucket compared to what Seoul would suffer ……. in a matter of a few hours the capital of South Korea would be rubble. There has to be a better way to get rid of these dangerous crackpots
BCer
“Seoul has a population of 10 million, is 40 miles from the Nork border and currently has the largest concentration of artillery in history aimed at it from the North.”
Indeed the nork “Harts” (Hardened artillery sites) are perhaps the most hardened/fortified gun batteries in history. Well concealed, burrowed into mountains with just the muzzles exposed (only when deployed) they defy easy destruction. These represent difficult, nearly impregnable targets even to smart weapons or tactical nukes. They are so numerous, powerful and long ranged that they not only could devastate Seoul in short order but also successfully support a Nork invasion of the south for about 50 miles.
Seoul has been a hostage for >30 years. That’s why the Norks can get away with almost anything short of a nuclear attack on Japan. Until fairly recently, appeasing them was no big deal but, now that they have both missiles and nukes available for sale to almost anybody, the balance is shifting. It’s a thin reed to grasp but, I’m hoping that the Chinese may become sufficiently alarmed by that to kick their little buddie’s ass and take the place over. That wouldn’t give the Norks a pretext to turn Seoul into rubble, although they might do it anyway, in their national death throes. Cheery prospects, eh?
Nice to see someone keeping the tradition of goose stepping alive.
@glasnost
“Vice” is the name of a free, ad supported, magazine originally started as a counter culture media piece in Montreal, but is now operated out of New York. Since blowing up they have many off-shoots, like Vice TV, which is what this is from.
The target audience would be those around 20-35. The discourse is mainly libertarian, and they’d likely jive well the South Park producers who also made Team America. So while they certainly think North Korea sucks, they…and the guy making this piece, probably also thinks Bush is a fascist. I was surprised to see Kate posting something from Vice, because she is literally the kind of person they would crap all over if she registered on their radar. It’s kind of like Kate linking to a Warren Kinsella video.
Thanks fred.
mwaaat dwah-mon [Matt Damon]
Arex Bawd-win
All kidding aside, N.Korea’s artillery can hit Seoul from where they are on the boarder.
They have 2 million of them.
I would bet that they could each get off 20 or more shots per gun before the South and the Yanks could even start to think about a response and dozens more than that before they could be taken out in any number. In a surprise attack, that would be bad…
Just think about the damage that could do in seconds to a modern industrial city full of skyscrapers.
Seoul is one of the largest cities in the world. It has over 10mm in the city proper and 23mm in the greater area.
“The target audience would be those around 20-35. The discourse is mainly libertarian, and they’d likely jive well the South Park producers who also made Team America. So while they certainly think North Korea sucks, they…and the guy making this piece, probably also thinks Bush is a fascist. I was surprised to see Kate posting something from Vice, because she is literally the kind of person they would crap all over if she registered on their radar. It’s kind of like Kate linking to a Warren Kinsella video.”
I fear, “fred’, that you have entirely missed the point. This is not about Bush, or the US, or us. It’s about North Korea.
I think Shane’s presence in these videos is what makes them so effective: he is the ultimate outsider looking in. A dweeby, earnest, MSM journalist type would simply not give these videos the same touch.
I mean, c’mon, 150,000 North Koreans performing arirang in front of a guy who could pass for a Stones’ roadie…
I look forward to watching the rest of this video series, but in this first part, the commentator has said some things that are flatly untrue. You CAN visit North Korea. It’s not easy and I wouldn’t try it as an American, but you can travel through China and eventually get an official tour of the DPRK. There are many blogs on the internet with pictures and info on tours people have taken. The other problem I have is inference that North Korea would kick the South’s butt. Bull Shit. It would be a seriously nasty mess, but the South Korean military along with the U.S. forces are better armed, better equipped and better trained and would make short work of the very old (50s-60s) raggedy Soviet era equipment. The North’s only strength is in numbers and fanaticism and we’d have to mow them down in waves. The video and some of the comments makes it sound like South Korea just sits around and pulls it’s pud when it comes to defense. Because of my time in the Army on the Korean peninsula, I know this is simply not true.
andy,
Firstly, you could level all of N.Korea and they lose nothing of value.
10 minutes of the north shelling Seoul and the south loses. Superior power only punishes the North for the damage done. It isn’t a fair trade-off.
Secondly, the only way to get a tour of the North is to prove political bona fides, be watched at all times (with “minders”,) only be allowed to photograph that which they want you to show (and nothing else) and other useful idiot activities.
If your goal is to show reality on film (like journalists are supposed to do but don’t,) you ain’t gonna go there. If you would like to be the next Walter Duranty, send your resume to the NYT before Obama has to bail them out, too.
just think, people are offended if you believe in Jesus.
Amazing!
I visited the DMZ in the early 90’s. I read a few comments about the north as well. Ever since, I have wanted a peek into the North. Eerie and surreal sums it up pretty nicely.
Imagine, a dozen rooms of splendor and displays of magnificence for two scruffy Americans in a country that can’t feed itself.