How do you say “Not worth living in unless they’ll make you Prime Minister”in Latin?
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I’ve heard PMSH say that hundreds of times.Never heard any other PM’s say that.
Why does that article give the idea that it’s Iggy’s idea?
Never mind….rhetorical question.
Finally, a wedge issue!
Question: Ignatieff is busy travelling for book signings this week. (hasn’t been in the HofC since Tuesday). He claims this new book is NOT a political manifesto just his own PERSONAL meanderings and thoughts and nothing to do with the Liberal party or policies.
So, now we must ask – WHO is paying for his personal book signing enterprise travel and expences?
A.The Liberal Party? B. The Canadian taxpayer. C. Ignatieff himnself or D. his book publisher?
For a personal commercial enterprise (taking place during the time he is being paid wages for taxpayer work BTW) the only right answers should be C or D – himself or his publisher.
If the Liberal party or taxpayer are paying for a private personal nothing to do with politics book tour do ya think that would be acceptable?
“Federal heritage officials who probed the potential cost of the change found it would be negligible.”
Well, now we know the Cons won’t ever get around to it. They won’t do anything unless it involves lots of your cash.
Thank goodness whoever came up with this wasn’t a student from the last thread, otherwise the new motto would read “From C to Sea to See”.
Other than a great way to blow millions of dollars on studies and meetings and design contests and focus groups and polling and a few trips abroad to see other mottoes, there’s no reason to change it.
Iam surprised he even knows that we border 3 oceans as he sure did’nt know how many time zones we have! (he said 4 in his book)
Lorraine Very Good Point, Who is paying for the tour?
amazing the amount of print & air time he is getting, Why is the MSM so fixated on him?
Seems like a natural opening to use that triangle with the big eyeball as our new national symbol too.
“We are not a party that is stuck in the past,” Graham said at the time. “Our party launched the debate on Canada’s flag to find a symbol that better represented all Canadians, and we are open to having a debate to see if our motto needs to be adapted so that all Canadians, and especially northerners, see their own reality reflected in our national motto.”
Firstly, Canada’s flag doesn’t better represent all Canadians.
It reflects the colors of the Liberal Party of Canada and maple trees don’t grow on the prairies or in the Yukon, N.W.T., and Nunavut.
Secondly, it was recognized decades ago that Canada needed nuclear powered submarines to patrol the Arctic Ocean but the Liberals nixed that idea. If you can’t patrol it year round, you can’t claim sovereignty over it.
It’s that simple.
When will the Liberals start to respect historic Canadian culture and tradition? No, the flag didn’t need changing, no, Mount Logan doesn’t need to be renamed Mount Trudeau, Queen Victoria’s birthday is on May 24th, no, portraits of French Kings shouldn’t be hanging in Parliament, no, we shouldn’t get rid of the monarchy in this here Dominion of Canada where July 1st is Dominion Day.
Other than that, Liberals, carry on as if you were normal./rant off
I am so glad that with all the troubles facing our Government this occupies so nuch of the Liberal Party Leader’s time.
You know the politicians (lead by liberals and passed as concessions) have been tearing down the traditional symbols of Canada for over 2 decades now, I for one am tired of it. PC is one thing but I cannot stand the degradation or adjustment of this Nation’s traditional symbols to accomidate the “inclusive” mindset and disrespect of history shown at the hands of political retards in Ottawa.
Ah, yes. The grand Liberal thinker. All empty rhetorical flourish, motherhood statements and empty posturing.
In other words, all style and no substance. And even his style is pitiful.
Iggybert Dumbledork making all the tough decisions so we don’t have to.
How about, “We’re all over the map, anywhere for a vote” ?
I didn’t know that bit about us being a Dominion was from the Bible, that explains a bunch regarding P.E.T. , the Canada Day business, the flag, ect…
“In other words, all style and no substance”
It was such a smashing success south of the border – why not here?
He is a typical Liberal. Say anything do nothing & deny everything as long as one thing is achieved,
Power at all costs.
Just a few examples, his comments over the past few weeks one day he talks of raising your tax’s! Then next day he denies saying it. Back in December he advocated & signed a Coalition pact to overthrow the govt, Now he says it would have broke the country apart.
IMO he is giving lots of ammo to his opponents for up coming elections.
If we’re paying for Ignatieff’s book tour we have to assume it’s a political book and good for Canada.
Rather sad the Liberals have shooed in a leader who is so unknown around the country he has to write a book about himself, then go across the country flogging it.
This is a man who is not ready for the job he has let alone the one the Liberals are foisting him to.
In Piggy Latin or just Latin?
This momentous idea of Iggy (aka George Monro Grant’s great grandson…geeze I hate name dropping)should be fused with Dion’s (Celine Dion’s cousin) idea of the puffin being the nations national bird. Is this the best these Liberal “academics” can come up with? Ay!
What language is it where Igantieff means “monobrow”?
Serbian?
The Dominion bit isn’t just from the Bible, marc in calgary, it also relates to Canada being a constitutional monarchy*, and I’m pretty sure that after the GG prorogued parliament recently that the Liberals and the other socialist fellow travellers they signed on with are planning to jettison that particular roadblock as soon as possible.
*Divine Right of Kings etc. IMO he is giving lots of ammo to his opponents for up coming elections.
~bryanr | May 11, 2009 5:00 PM
I’m sure Iggy’s books, written while living in the States, are chock-a-block full of phrases like, “We Americans” that will go over like a lead balloon when they are quoted to America-loving** Ontarians and Quebecers during the next election.
**the LPC having built a hefty part of their recent brand by slagging the U.S.
seems fair enough to me….if Obama can have 57 states why can’t we have 5 or 6 oceans or seas…….or as many as we darn well want….
Just a question…has anybody asked Iggy (thus has he answered) if Iggy ever applied for citizenship and/or receive citizenship in the UK or US while living there?
When is Ignatieff going to propose an idea all Canadians can rally behind – a national holiday in February called John A. Macdonald – Wilfrid Laurier Day (none of this Family Day, Flag Day, Trudeau Day nonsense). Preferably on the same day as Presidents Day in the States which would make economic sense. This has never happened because the Liberals don’t want to honour John A. Macdonald.
I would also like to have Dominion Day back, but of course here in Quebec it is called Tabarnac Moving Day.
Oz – well put. And I’d add an Army, Navy, and Air Force…
“All three territorial premiers in 2006 pushed for the change, arguing that a three-seas motto would more fully acknowledge Nunavut, Northwest Territories and Yukon as equal partners in Confederation.”
Excuse this ignorant American – but isn’t the reason they’re territories and not provinces because they’re _not_ “equal partners”?
(I won’t go into equality among provinces here…)
Small quibble Oz – Red and White are the national colours of Canada and the Maple Leaf was used by regular Canadians as a symbol decades before the Flag was changed in the 60’s. They’re not Liberal symbols.
I’d also add bring back the RCN and RCAF. There’s a change I could get behind.
Other than that, you’re bang on, respect our heritage.
An other bllody typical exmaple of Polticians changing something there was no need to just for the amusing momentary pleasure of screwing around with a minor tradition.
How so very typical of socialists (and historical illiterates) of all kinds.
Ghods forbid that we leave the names of towns, of streets and even cities the same and give us a sense rootedness in a historical continuum. Build your own flipping streets and name THEM.
I’m still ticked that New Amsterdam became New York, btw. Like there was reason for that.
On the other hand that Petrograd/Leningrad has finally returned to St. Petersburg pleased me greatly.
Now all we have to do is get Dorchester Boulevard back from Boulevard René-Lévesque.
Seems like a good idea to me. The Post asked Iggy if he was OK about the change, and he said yes. It was a trick question. Say no and have the Northerners on your case. Say yes and have Kate the Classical Scholar doing another two-line drive-by. He made the right choice.
What’s the Latin for:
“Expatriate Carpet Bagging Intellectual Dork”
Wow – a world wide recession, a war, oodles and oodles or really important issues for our MPs to tackle and Ignatieff’s questionable intellect is being used up selling his own books and musing about changing a slogan???? Trite but, ah well, it gets headlines and does not reequire decisions or policies or anything hard like that.
Does anyone else think Ignatieff has already reached his Peter Principle pinnacle – been promoted well beyond his pay grade it would appear.
He has to leave the hard stuff to Stephen Harper and his team.
Iggy once again proved that he’s a Man About Nothing.
He’s a Leader About Nothing.
He’d be a Prime Minister About Nothing.
When will he give us some actual policies to chew on? How about just one little nugget of policy kibble?
Excuse this ignorant American – but isn’t the reason they’re territories and not provinces because they’re _not_ “equal partners”?
(I won’t go into equality among provinces here…)
~PabloNH at May 11, 2009 5:15 PM
Just so, PabloNH.
Yeah, and all Canadian provinces aren’t “nations” either like Quebec.(which is more equal than the rest)
Why is Puerto Rico an American Territory but Hawaii gets Statehood?(not to get OT)
SDH,
Red and white are the LPC colors, the original Canadian flag contained blue, and no, the Maple Leaf doesn’t better represent all Canadians as Graham claimed if maple trees don’t grow in Alberta, Saskatechew, Yukon, Nunavut, or the N.W.T.
That was my point.
Original Canadian Flag: http://pic.srv6.wapedia.mobi/thumb/6fdf14375/en/max/384/276/John_A_Macdonald_election_poster_1891.jpg?format=jpg,png,gif,wbmp
Pearson Pennant (blue represents Sea to Sea): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Canada_Pearson_Pennant_1964.svg
and Canada’s then-ambassador for the Arctic, Jack Anawak, embraced the idea.
What does an ambassador for the Arctic do exactly?
I’m disappointed in Prince Michael. They should have caned him harder at UCC, for neglecting his Latin or his Bible.
The last phrase of Psalm 72, verse 8, gives the complete sense, and was probably in the minds of those who adopted the first part as motto:
“… a mari usque ad mare, et a flumine usque ad terminos terrae.”
The St. Laurence seaway is the River, in a reasonable interpretation, and the Canadian Arctic is “the
ends of the earth” if anywhere is. Those who understood the motto would know its last phrase, and would also apply it. No need to spell it out.
What does an ambassador for the Arctic do exactly?
He greets British kayakers and tells the Danes they’ve gone too far…
Thank You…
Next rhetorical question.
Why are Liberals always willing to have a national debate over something trivial like this, but not something important like, say, immigration, or gay marriage?
> Why is Puerto Rico an American Territory but Hawaii gets Statehood?
Because Hawaii wanted to be a state, and Puerto Rico doesn’t. (Can’t blame them – they’re exempt from the federal income tax. If my state (NH) could get the same deal, I’d be for it…)
CS
The problem for the Liberals is: they agree with everything the Conservatives are doing; therefore, there is no policy to mention. The Liberals have been squeezed out of the political spectrum, they’re bookended! This is why the Liberals sat on their hands last Parliamentary session. The Conservatives occupy the center-center left as Kate pointed out on the radio last week, and the Dippers/Greens are the left left. There is nowhere for the Liberals to go except into loony land; or Obama forbid, right of the Conservatives aligning themselves with the west.
So, what is a Liberal to do?
This is why I support some sort of western separation. The Liberals have nothing to offer that isn’t already on the table yet still hold the balance of power regardless of their track record.
Shannow
The problem for the Liberals is: they agree with everything the Conservatives are doing; therefore, there is no debate to be had. That’s why my opening comment was “Finally, a wedge issue”.
That explains why I tend to think the conservatives are either doing the wrong things or not enough of the right things. They are acting like liberals.
Oz,
Perhaps “… not exclusively Liberal symbols” would have been more to your liking.
The original “Canadian Flag” was the Union Flag, not the Red Ensign, regardless of the ubiquity of the latter.
Again, as red and white are Canada’s national colours, they deserve a prominence on our flag which blue does not.
Canada deserved a flag of it’s own, and, with the exception of the Union Flag and the Stars and Stripes, I think we have the best looking Flag in the world. Pearson was wrong about a lot of things, but he got this one right.
WhoDunit?
“[….] just the victim.”
Q: Who dat “victim”?
Hint: Not Buttcrack Karl.
More hint: “”floating around . . . and we don’t know if it’s going to sink or swim.””
Nother hint: OntarioLib pol says, “”This is too serious an issue to be playing politics with,”. said Fonseca.”
A: “Dhalla asks to appear at committee hearing”
(TORedStar)
Steve Haper made sure Quebec would always be more equal than the other provinces.
I have often wondered why our national emblem, the maple leaf, is a tree that only grows naturally in Eastern Canada.
The only maples from Manitoba west and in the north are ones planted for ornamental landscaping. Even at that they don’t thrive well out west.
Strange that.
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Lorraine,
Actually, we in Manitoba and Saskatchewan get our own variety of maple, variously called “Box Elder” or “Manitoba Maple” among other appelations. Neither as long-lived nor as large as the familiar red maples of Ontario and Quebec, it nevertheless thrives in our less temperate western climate. Of course, there are those who disdain it as not being a proper maple, so maybe your comment is correct after all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acer_negundo
Here’s a question that might be of similar relevance to the one asked of Prince Michael by the Post. Having a lesser version of our flag symbol; does that make us eastern prairie types less Canadian than Ontario, but more Canadian than BC and Alberta?
Why not “From sea, to sea, to sea, to the U.S.A.”?
Iffy is an imitator,
without original ideas.
He imitates PMSH and copies other scholars ideas:
Sept 4, 2008
2 Arctic scholars support Harper’s northern policy
”…“Canada has avoided acting like a northern nation for generations,”
Poelzer and Coates say “we should applaud any government that treats the Canadian Arctic seriously and aims to
build a country from sea-to-sea-to-sea.
With the moves sparked by the current controversies over global warming, oil and gas reserves and uncertain Arctic boundaries,
the current government appears to be moving quickly and purposefully to draw the North into Confederation….” http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=448fc6e1-ace1-4f60-868d-c4f4e1775727
Iffy hears applause for someone else
and steps in to take a bow.
SDH,
Thank you. I stand corrected.
I still don’t think that a Maple Leaf is representative of me as an Albertan. I’ve never seen one here. Shelterbelt maple bushes, yes, trees, no, and the leaves don’t look at all like “maple leafs”.
a merde usque ad merde usque ad merde?
perhaps while they are doing that they can find a deep abyss and call it Mount Trudeau.
Actually, those Manitoba Maples are a big pain in the butt. The one at my Winterpeg home liked to grow baby trees all over my lawn while the rest of the roots kept the Roto-Rooter guy wealthy as those roots can find water, including your sewer line faster than a politician can find your wallet.
They do look lovely and when dried properly, make good firewood.
after looking that up , Im thinking the tree I have been calling a manitoba maple for 40years isnt one at all. brilliant yellow leaves in the fall against dark almost black bark. looks electric , seeds rarely and is very maple looking in shape. and it doesnt have composite leaves. they are very much like a maple leaf but yellow.
then I have a reddish leaf bush that looks like maple leave too. extremely brittle , it sheds branches as easy as leaves. I thought maybe a NDP type maple. all show and not too successful.
I’ve heard PMSH say that hundreds of times.Never heard any other PM’s say that.
Why does that article give the idea that it’s Iggy’s idea?
Never mind….rhetorical question.
Finally, a wedge issue!
Question: Ignatieff is busy travelling for book signings this week. (hasn’t been in the HofC since Tuesday). He claims this new book is NOT a political manifesto just his own PERSONAL meanderings and thoughts and nothing to do with the Liberal party or policies.
So, now we must ask – WHO is paying for his personal book signing enterprise travel and expences?
A.The Liberal Party? B. The Canadian taxpayer. C. Ignatieff himnself or D. his book publisher?
For a personal commercial enterprise (taking place during the time he is being paid wages for taxpayer work BTW) the only right answers should be C or D – himself or his publisher.
If the Liberal party or taxpayer are paying for a private personal nothing to do with politics book tour do ya think that would be acceptable?
“Federal heritage officials who probed the potential cost of the change found it would be negligible.”
Well, now we know the Cons won’t ever get around to it. They won’t do anything unless it involves lots of your cash.
Thank goodness whoever came up with this wasn’t a student from the last thread, otherwise the new motto would read “From C to Sea to See”.
Other than a great way to blow millions of dollars on studies and meetings and design contests and focus groups and polling and a few trips abroad to see other mottoes, there’s no reason to change it.
Iam surprised he even knows that we border 3 oceans as he sure did’nt know how many time zones we have! (he said 4 in his book)
Lorraine Very Good Point, Who is paying for the tour?
amazing the amount of print & air time he is getting, Why is the MSM so fixated on him?
Seems like a natural opening to use that triangle with the big eyeball as our new national symbol too.
“We are not a party that is stuck in the past,” Graham said at the time. “Our party launched the debate on Canada’s flag to find a symbol that better represented all Canadians, and we are open to having a debate to see if our motto needs to be adapted so that all Canadians, and especially northerners, see their own reality reflected in our national motto.”
Firstly, Canada’s flag doesn’t better represent all Canadians.
It reflects the colors of the Liberal Party of Canada and maple trees don’t grow on the prairies or in the Yukon, N.W.T., and Nunavut.
Secondly, it was recognized decades ago that Canada needed nuclear powered submarines to patrol the Arctic Ocean but the Liberals nixed that idea. If you can’t patrol it year round, you can’t claim sovereignty over it.
It’s that simple.
When will the Liberals start to respect historic Canadian culture and tradition? No, the flag didn’t need changing, no, Mount Logan doesn’t need to be renamed Mount Trudeau, Queen Victoria’s birthday is on May 24th, no, portraits of French Kings shouldn’t be hanging in Parliament, no, we shouldn’t get rid of the monarchy in this here Dominion of Canada where July 1st is Dominion Day.
Other than that, Liberals, carry on as if you were normal./rant off
I am so glad that with all the troubles facing our Government this occupies so nuch of the Liberal Party Leader’s time.
You know the politicians (lead by liberals and passed as concessions) have been tearing down the traditional symbols of Canada for over 2 decades now, I for one am tired of it. PC is one thing but I cannot stand the degradation or adjustment of this Nation’s traditional symbols to accomidate the “inclusive” mindset and disrespect of history shown at the hands of political retards in Ottawa.
Ah, yes. The grand Liberal thinker. All empty rhetorical flourish, motherhood statements and empty posturing.
In other words, all style and no substance. And even his style is pitiful.
Iggybert Dumbledork making all the tough decisions so we don’t have to.
How about, “We’re all over the map, anywhere for a vote” ?
I didn’t know that bit about us being a Dominion was from the Bible, that explains a bunch regarding P.E.T. , the Canada Day business, the flag, ect…
“In other words, all style and no substance”
It was such a smashing success south of the border – why not here?
He is a typical Liberal. Say anything do nothing & deny everything as long as one thing is achieved,
Power at all costs.
Just a few examples, his comments over the past few weeks one day he talks of raising your tax’s! Then next day he denies saying it. Back in December he advocated & signed a Coalition pact to overthrow the govt, Now he says it would have broke the country apart.
IMO he is giving lots of ammo to his opponents for up coming elections.
If we’re paying for Ignatieff’s book tour we have to assume it’s a political book and good for Canada.
Rather sad the Liberals have shooed in a leader who is so unknown around the country he has to write a book about himself, then go across the country flogging it.
This is a man who is not ready for the job he has let alone the one the Liberals are foisting him to.
In Piggy Latin or just Latin?
This momentous idea of Iggy (aka George Monro Grant’s great grandson…geeze I hate name dropping)should be fused with Dion’s (Celine Dion’s cousin) idea of the puffin being the nations national bird. Is this the best these Liberal “academics” can come up with? Ay!
What language is it where Igantieff means “monobrow”?
Serbian?
The Dominion bit isn’t just from the Bible, marc in calgary, it also relates to Canada being a constitutional monarchy*, and I’m pretty sure that after the GG prorogued parliament recently that the Liberals and the other socialist fellow travellers they signed on with are planning to jettison that particular roadblock as soon as possible.
*Divine Right of Kings etc.
IMO he is giving lots of ammo to his opponents for up coming elections.
~bryanr | May 11, 2009 5:00 PM
I’m sure Iggy’s books, written while living in the States, are chock-a-block full of phrases like, “We Americans” that will go over like a lead balloon when they are quoted to America-loving** Ontarians and Quebecers during the next election.
**the LPC having built a hefty part of their recent brand by slagging the U.S.
seems fair enough to me….if Obama can have 57 states why can’t we have 5 or 6 oceans or seas…….or as many as we darn well want….
Just a question…has anybody asked Iggy (thus has he answered) if Iggy ever applied for citizenship and/or receive citizenship in the UK or US while living there?
When is Ignatieff going to propose an idea all Canadians can rally behind – a national holiday in February called John A. Macdonald – Wilfrid Laurier Day (none of this Family Day, Flag Day, Trudeau Day nonsense). Preferably on the same day as Presidents Day in the States which would make economic sense. This has never happened because the Liberals don’t want to honour John A. Macdonald.
I would also like to have Dominion Day back, but of course here in Quebec it is called Tabarnac Moving Day.
Oz – well put. And I’d add an Army, Navy, and Air Force…
“All three territorial premiers in 2006 pushed for the change, arguing that a three-seas motto would more fully acknowledge Nunavut, Northwest Territories and Yukon as equal partners in Confederation.”
Excuse this ignorant American – but isn’t the reason they’re territories and not provinces because they’re _not_ “equal partners”?
(I won’t go into equality among provinces here…)
Small quibble Oz – Red and White are the national colours of Canada and the Maple Leaf was used by regular Canadians as a symbol decades before the Flag was changed in the 60’s. They’re not Liberal symbols.
I’d also add bring back the RCN and RCAF. There’s a change I could get behind.
Other than that, you’re bang on, respect our heritage.
An other bllody typical exmaple of Polticians changing something there was no need to just for the amusing momentary pleasure of screwing around with a minor tradition.
How so very typical of socialists (and historical illiterates) of all kinds.
Ghods forbid that we leave the names of towns, of streets and even cities the same and give us a sense rootedness in a historical continuum. Build your own flipping streets and name THEM.
I’m still ticked that New Amsterdam became New York, btw. Like there was reason for that.
On the other hand that Petrograd/Leningrad has finally returned to St. Petersburg pleased me greatly.
Now all we have to do is get Dorchester Boulevard back from Boulevard René-Lévesque.
Seems like a good idea to me. The Post asked Iggy if he was OK about the change, and he said yes. It was a trick question. Say no and have the Northerners on your case. Say yes and have Kate the Classical Scholar doing another two-line drive-by. He made the right choice.
What’s the Latin for:
“Expatriate Carpet Bagging Intellectual Dork”
Wow – a world wide recession, a war, oodles and oodles or really important issues for our MPs to tackle and Ignatieff’s questionable intellect is being used up selling his own books and musing about changing a slogan???? Trite but, ah well, it gets headlines and does not reequire decisions or policies or anything hard like that.
Does anyone else think Ignatieff has already reached his Peter Principle pinnacle – been promoted well beyond his pay grade it would appear.
He has to leave the hard stuff to Stephen Harper and his team.
Iggy once again proved that he’s a Man About Nothing.
He’s a Leader About Nothing.
He’d be a Prime Minister About Nothing.
When will he give us some actual policies to chew on? How about just one little nugget of policy kibble?
Excuse this ignorant American – but isn’t the reason they’re territories and not provinces because they’re _not_ “equal partners”?
(I won’t go into equality among provinces here…)
~PabloNH at May 11, 2009 5:15 PM
Just so, PabloNH.
Yeah, and all Canadian provinces aren’t “nations” either like Quebec.(which is more equal than the rest)
Why is Puerto Rico an American Territory but Hawaii gets Statehood?(not to get OT)
SDH,
Red and white are the LPC colors, the original Canadian flag contained blue, and no, the Maple Leaf doesn’t better represent all Canadians as Graham claimed if maple trees don’t grow in Alberta, Saskatechew, Yukon, Nunavut, or the N.W.T.
That was my point.
Original Canadian Flag:
http://pic.srv6.wapedia.mobi/thumb/6fdf14375/en/max/384/276/John_A_Macdonald_election_poster_1891.jpg?format=jpg,png,gif,wbmp
Pearson Pennant (blue represents Sea to Sea):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Canada_Pearson_Pennant_1964.svg
and Canada’s then-ambassador for the Arctic, Jack Anawak, embraced the idea.
What does an ambassador for the Arctic do exactly?
I’m disappointed in Prince Michael. They should have caned him harder at UCC, for neglecting his Latin or his Bible.
The last phrase of Psalm 72, verse 8, gives the complete sense, and was probably in the minds of those who adopted the first part as motto:
“… a mari usque ad mare, et a flumine usque ad terminos terrae.”
The St. Laurence seaway is the River, in a reasonable interpretation, and the Canadian Arctic is “the
ends of the earth” if anywhere is. Those who understood the motto would know its last phrase, and would also apply it. No need to spell it out.
What does an ambassador for the Arctic do exactly?
He greets British kayakers and tells the Danes they’ve gone too far…
Thank You…
Next rhetorical question.
Why are Liberals always willing to have a national debate over something trivial like this, but not something important like, say, immigration, or gay marriage?
> Why is Puerto Rico an American Territory but Hawaii gets Statehood?
Because Hawaii wanted to be a state, and Puerto Rico doesn’t. (Can’t blame them – they’re exempt from the federal income tax. If my state (NH) could get the same deal, I’d be for it…)
CS
The problem for the Liberals is: they agree with everything the Conservatives are doing; therefore, there is no policy to mention. The Liberals have been squeezed out of the political spectrum, they’re bookended! This is why the Liberals sat on their hands last Parliamentary session. The Conservatives occupy the center-center left as Kate pointed out on the radio last week, and the Dippers/Greens are the left left. There is nowhere for the Liberals to go except into loony land; or Obama forbid, right of the Conservatives aligning themselves with the west.
So, what is a Liberal to do?
This is why I support some sort of western separation. The Liberals have nothing to offer that isn’t already on the table yet still hold the balance of power regardless of their track record.
Shannow
The problem for the Liberals is: they agree with everything the Conservatives are doing; therefore, there is no debate to be had. That’s why my opening comment was “Finally, a wedge issue”.
That explains why I tend to think the conservatives are either doing the wrong things or not enough of the right things. They are acting like liberals.
Oz,
Perhaps “… not exclusively Liberal symbols” would have been more to your liking.
The original “Canadian Flag” was the Union Flag, not the Red Ensign, regardless of the ubiquity of the latter.
Again, as red and white are Canada’s national colours, they deserve a prominence on our flag which blue does not.
Canada deserved a flag of it’s own, and, with the exception of the Union Flag and the Stars and Stripes, I think we have the best looking Flag in the world. Pearson was wrong about a lot of things, but he got this one right.
WhoDunit?
“[….] just the victim.”
Q: Who dat “victim”?
Hint: Not Buttcrack Karl.
More hint: “”floating around . . . and we don’t know if it’s going to sink or swim.””
Nother hint: OntarioLib pol says, “”This is too serious an issue to be playing politics with,”. said Fonseca.”
A: “Dhalla asks to appear at committee hearing”
(TORedStar)
Steve Haper made sure Quebec would always be more equal than the other provinces.
I have often wondered why our national emblem, the maple leaf, is a tree that only grows naturally in Eastern Canada.
The only maples from Manitoba west and in the north are ones planted for ornamental landscaping. Even at that they don’t thrive well out west.
Strange that.
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“CBC faces further cuts of up to $56M in 2010
CBC could be facing a cut of up to five per cent, or $56 million, from its parliamentary appropriation in the 2010-2011 fiscal year.”
Lorraine,
Actually, we in Manitoba and Saskatchewan get our own variety of maple, variously called “Box Elder” or “Manitoba Maple” among other appelations. Neither as long-lived nor as large as the familiar red maples of Ontario and Quebec, it nevertheless thrives in our less temperate western climate. Of course, there are those who disdain it as not being a proper maple, so maybe your comment is correct after all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acer_negundo
Here’s a question that might be of similar relevance to the one asked of Prince Michael by the Post. Having a lesser version of our flag symbol; does that make us eastern prairie types less Canadian than Ontario, but more Canadian than BC and Alberta?
Why not “From sea, to sea, to sea, to the U.S.A.”?
Iffy is an imitator,
without original ideas.
He imitates PMSH and copies other scholars ideas:
Sept 4, 2008
2 Arctic scholars support Harper’s northern policy
”…“Canada has avoided acting like a northern nation for generations,”
Poelzer and Coates say “we should applaud any government that treats the Canadian Arctic seriously and aims to
build a country from sea-to-sea-to-sea.
With the moves sparked by the current controversies over global warming, oil and gas reserves and uncertain Arctic boundaries,
the current government appears to be moving quickly and purposefully to draw the North into Confederation….”
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=448fc6e1-ace1-4f60-868d-c4f4e1775727
Iffy hears applause for someone else
and steps in to take a bow.
SDH,
Thank you. I stand corrected.
I still don’t think that a Maple Leaf is representative of me as an Albertan. I’ve never seen one here. Shelterbelt maple bushes, yes, trees, no, and the leaves don’t look at all like “maple leafs”.
a merde usque ad merde usque ad merde?
perhaps while they are doing that they can find a deep abyss and call it Mount Trudeau.
Actually, those Manitoba Maples are a big pain in the butt. The one at my Winterpeg home liked to grow baby trees all over my lawn while the rest of the roots kept the Roto-Rooter guy wealthy as those roots can find water, including your sewer line faster than a politician can find your wallet.
They do look lovely and when dried properly, make good firewood.
after looking that up , Im thinking the tree I have been calling a manitoba maple for 40years isnt one at all. brilliant yellow leaves in the fall against dark almost black bark. looks electric , seeds rarely and is very maple looking in shape. and it doesnt have composite leaves. they are very much like a maple leaf but yellow.
then I have a reddish leaf bush that looks like maple leave too. extremely brittle , it sheds branches as easy as leaves. I thought maybe a NDP type maple. all show and not too successful.