When Fatah shows up to protest Hamas, you’re supposed to pray for an air strike, not pick a favourite;
The Hamas official said that his security forces had launched a massive “preemptive” campaign aimed at thwarting Fatah’s attempts to “spread anarchy and chaos.” He confirmed that many Fatah operatives had been shot in the legs over the past few days by Hamas “to make sure that they don’t help Israel.”
Oh yes, and the IDF is again being made out to be the big bad meanyheads in this latest PR war for the hearts and minds of western TV journalists.
Someone at SDA (I think it was me) posted a link to a document that studied the MSM and it’s obsession with underdogs and why it happens. Wish I could find it again.
I say go Israel. As others have stated here and elsewhere, no other country would put up with what the Israelis have had to deal with. They’ve proven to be extremely patient, but at some point action HAS to be taken.
One would have to be a complete moron to suggest that their hand was not forced.
Apparently no shortage of morons.
Bomb, bomb, bomb,
Bomb Hamasistan.
Are you hinting that there’s a market we can exploit there, Wayne? Actually, Holy Crap! you’re right!
They “spread anarchy and chaos”
That’s rich.
Shoot, shoot, shoot, kill, kill, kill everybody!
Islam. The absolute lowest rung of humankind.
Go Israel go!
No doubt hamas will start killing gaza civilians to get the numbers up.
islam has not an ounce of integrity
Hamas, fatah, hezbollah, al qaida………..geez, one needs a scorecard just to keep up.
Yet, it all seems to point right back at the mad mullahs of Iran.
Maybe this was the big test Byden was talking about……..show us the way obamamessiah……..the world needs your leadership.
Go Sabras!
Actually, Kingstonlad, Obama might be able to focus US black anger towards the REAL bad guys instead of busting caps (holding the gun sideways, of course) in the asses of all us honky, cracker white folk.
Uh-oh, I’m going to hell for that one.
BTW, I must admit that Obama has made some good decisions………so far.
…Hamas militiamen had been assaulting many Fatah activists since the beginning of the operation last Saturday. They said at least 75 activists were shot in the legs while others had their hands broken.
They are animals.
Don’t expect to see this typical inter-Palestinian thugggery in the western press which for decades has tried to sanitize these animals.
Israel has lost far too much time in the past worrying about world opinion and not pounding these morally deformed creatures into the dirt. I’m sure that Israel understands all too well that we have a spineless wimp of the liberal mold entering the WH and are maximizing their efforts this time around.
Weasel Boy Sarkozy, of course, has condemned Israel whereas the new Czech EU president has supported their ground offensive. I’m sure it’s to keep the sympathetic carbeques to a minimum in France.
LOL, kingstonlad!
It’s “us” conservatives that’ll be advising him. The left is too flakey and better suited to “go away and pretend to look busy” jobs.
Was I supposed to laugh out loud at that?
These guys should write for the onion
“…the new Czech EU president…”
Is it Vaclav yet?
Penny
In Gaza those type of exchanges are considered to be political discourse. It’s a cultural thing.
Syncro
This is a silly perspective from someone who claims support for Isreal. In all likelihood Fatah is helping Israel clandestinely to destroy Hamas. Fatah is also the “more reasonable” party with which Israel will eventually have to make a peace deal with.
“Fatah is also the “more reasonable” party with which Israel will eventually have to make a peace deal with.”
Yes the scorpion is more reasonable the the rattle snake.
obambam could do very well in easing the tensions in the middle east
when his is finished teaching the hamass’ how to politicaly sit on their hands it will be much more difficult to hold their AK-47’s to fight
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thank god for this type of arab solidarity…
it’s the only reason israel can survive in
the middle of all these crazies.
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Yes, thank goodness the religion of pieces barbarians like killing each other, as much as they enjoy killing Jews and Christians, and infidels.
What is left of hamas will spend the rest of their days trying to bite off their own tail.
When Iran and Iraq were fighting each other (may war be between them!) either Kissinger or some other comedian doing a Kissinger impression said: “I wish them both the very best of luck”. Jihadis knee-capping jihadis are the schmuckiest people…”
Kingstonlad, I’m sure President Obama, once he’s in office, will make overtures for peace in that region. There will be lots of hope and, “now we have a real leader taking care of things.” Obama will make an earnest effort, but the result will be the same.
For a hint of the futility of the whole thing, just check Eric Margolis’ tired “Israel is just encouraging attacks against them” argument.
Hey Eric, where have you been for the last 60 years. Just because MSM fails to report ongoing attacks (oh, sorry only 20 people dead, the rest in bomb shelters), to float the fiction that those eviiil Israelis just decided to attack Gaza, just for the fun of it.
An don’t forget, because Jordanians, sorry Palestinians, are angry at losing land, after attacking Israel ad infinitum, well, that’s obvious justification for daily rocket attacks from the unoccupied Gaza.
Not to take this off topic, but, I mentioned Weasel Boy Sarkozy condemning Israel most likely to spare the French bigger carbeques, well, I just spotted this article in the IHT that the carbeques were up 30% this New Years.
The Interior Ministry said 1,147 cars were burned overnight, compared with 878 last year. It said the police had arrested 288 people during the night, up from 259 last year.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/01/01/europe/france.php
And, Sarkozy’s response, he’s going to take away the little punk’s drivers licenses. I kid you not. Idiots.
what is going on there is very danger situation and sound scary
i am not up dated except what we see and hear from news to know what they are doing there and how much news out explain detail of what happend
there is two posibilty
1) hasmas abuse their power to take more power and not let other take in charge
or
2) hamas is discipline people in area by facing 3 crisise inside city peopel live with no water gas and electricity and they are frustrated and they do start to do act without direction from hama and such as fatah tried to do certina independent act against isreal and Hamas treid to diciplin to not do any move without hamas are involve to have one leadership in war here not too many inside polticial fight how to stop that inside criseis
second guess is hamas dicipline and punish isreali by said 6 month we are waiting and all embargo finsih and now we did stop all gun shot now give our land back and stop embargo and isreali tried to play the same illeagl abusive way and take advanate of leaving Bush out and say hay Mcacain candicy is caused bush not say a word and let isreali to get away of their dead line to finish without nobody pay attention to say to isreal saying hay you give land back while bush knew it is time out and not like to start new war in look bloody as we see it to let now Hasma diciplain isreali to follow law and what tehy say and wht they act or carry to full fill by
like shot in leg of Israli act saying time is finish are you give us back our land and stop embargo isreali said No and hamas attack
third is international crisis taht hamas must show who can be leadership of area now isreali or hamas or both politician to stop inside crisis and start polticail talk in table again and use international help to guid them to this is not kill over abuse this kill to stop all crimial within tehir country now
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now the isreali who know hamas take leadership stary old game to say hamas are bad to not let them to take this end to paly with hamas and let new guy come to talkw ith us again
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solution:
hamas is elected by palestinina and they are army in charge
and new group elected by Isreali to paly game again with hamas are not acting smart while they could
now first both group must stop inside crise end and start talk and used international forced if this land back and put LAW in get enforce
apprently as isreali comeing to gaza is not sign that isreali plan to stop this easy soon
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solution:
international forces need to help hamas to push back isreali this time while they have not right to coem to border of palteinin any more further any more
open ecomnic bullying who caused frustration inside city to stop all kiling among pelsting themselve and hard to stop peace get through
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third identify all isreali names behind them and change those leader immidetly to new people if not listen to order or land back and force isreal to go new election again for bring leader who follow law of international same method used for sadam husain this time if isreal is not listen need force to get those politican out and new election to find person who follow rules and regulation and not open fired to kill or get more crimianla occuption over any name again
even may isreali need leader from outisde or isreal to come back to isreal to help them this time
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isreal method of poltic is like a cycle
now if now we reach their killing cycle
method has abuse first then frustration of cut ecomnic gas water food as second third kiling with not rules and fourth hold on by time abuse of any progress to stay for ever to die and foruth is isloation time and fifht repeat this cyce again
the above mehtod seen over 40 years to take power and money and political illegal ways in isreal need to get stop soon
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this is best time since isreali is reached killing criminal cycle and international movement can come and help paletine this time and force polticial illgla party in isreal to retired and put new one it does nto matter that was new election the new elctor did not obey 6 month time frame isreal need new election again
if thso politicn now must go then they will stop keep forward adn do their killing cycle
like criminal cycle thos habit in isreal is habit of criminal repeating and
solution:
to stop that cycle
if internatioal force can interupt that enjoyment nad cycle
then crime in that region will stop
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both act like not human being
area is very danger as well too
need pschcolgoy of criminal study
to stop frustration insie both country
stop killing soon
put land
put law in border
put or change any polticial figure who do not obey the law soon
isreali must stop gaming any more and hama must stop killing as well as much as they can to not show tehy are act like isreal they must act moe defense than offence here
really if there was power
to importn new president for isreal and paletin i recomanded to do so since
there is no make sense in that region
since no smart left to rule each other
they need president on sale now to bring one for isreal and one for paletin to help them this time
bring one jewish smart in isreal and one smart palstin back to pelestine to rule law there
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in summary what i think
abuse- ecomnice abuse=make peopel frustration- bush knwo they must force isreal to pay their land back while election of republiction and docmorat cuase he did ont do it while this is wrong US to take charge of isreal any more
delay with time
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how to break the cycle not obey any delay in time
not to delay in time
obey the law and break it
stop isreali force go any forthur
stop killing from both sides
these two is main to must international force enter to break crimial cycle there
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isreali knows also if Bush was in power and Bush told them to move out they must listen
now Obama is in power tehy can paly around
while all world say stop it they are not stop it
they will go to kill hamasi group now
as reach second criminal cycle for them
like sadam husain when he heard anybody agains with him even family member as he idetntify them he go and kill them
now if some one not stop isreali now they will plan to now get rid of other polticail party now we goa nd take take care of second hamas one
as they
as now isreali sai all the blame is Hsama
while all the blame is Isreal that under 6 moht fire arm di not give or obey the law too
when two parties are sign law and polticail agrement
must obey with is if they are not strong to not obey it
then all politican in new election of isreal must be get changed now
1) hamas must stop inside group who plan to do indepent act like fatah
2) open international ecominc embargo out of system
3) internationl force of army force isreal back to wher they come from
4) ask them to land back
5) IF NOT CHANGE POLITCAAL NAME WHO ARE NOT OBEY THIS LAW ANY MORE BY DEPORTING THEM OUT OF ISREAL FROM NOW ON
6) new group seat in table sign
7) land back
8) put inside border strong by stanidng of outise army to help them
9) open more law inside by harsh time to not go and kill other without any reason any more
this is difficult to dicipline bad people
while it is easy now to break the cycle of abuse in region and not let them to take charg to do it again
it is stabilty in law importatn to stick with law not break it again easy for any reason soon
Kate.I hope when new was talking to you,she was requesting your address to send a check for all the bandwidth she wastes.And yeah.Like GYM,me can talk pretty goodly when wants to.
No Euro-bribes for Hamas thugs and Fatah thugs this month? Hope this intra and inter gang killfest doesn’t “derail the peace process”.
justthinkin
are you telling me all those picture
all world protest
are done with group of dumb as
and you are the only one think right today
and your solution to let them die is
not tried already
i am doing encourage research plot of time day and behaviour name of polticina of isreali
in graph and then break this abuse ways
to beging way while i am not supporting everything is going on in paletine is legally right too as conscesquence of that first wrong
i am seeing some view taht lead to some solution
this is like film that you keep press the replay bottom again and again and again and again over 40 years
palstine and isreali come and say let talk
peace
then while they plan to talk
isreali must deliver goods and land
and paletine must deliver no more terroris activity and stop inside peopel over anger to not drop anythng to kill isreali
when they reach this point in several time over several years
what isreali does only waste the time
while justhinin you think i wast internet band
sorry because all is repeating
nothing “new’
why in 6 month isreal did not deliver and let them paletin with new election of hamas goes under more embargo to let
plan of isreali was this
to let inside paletin come and kill hamas now and see them as not good leader and they do not give l and back and make people more frustration
if you blind to see all obvious abuse
sorry nothing i can see
when you can do the peace to let environment feed properly and not angry enought to do
by time
while time with abuse made them worse enemy back to you
by frustration of peletinian isreali made more killer back to them
this plan done by big law makers and criminal army who know how to NEveR stop this war
this plan never made by hand of criminal police who plan to stop it this war
if you smart enough you know i am not saying new i am anlysis only break this cycle by identify their bad habit over this ways
if america like to end this war they did long time ago can you get it
how come you cut your water and expect to peace with you
come on
be human they are not animal to let them to die
they know tehy left alone to die and now tehy see death daily since eitehr die over years or die today and will take peace sooner
faster is better than delay it
this is theory of survival in that area
force of gun unfortunally they designed that corruption way not because they supposed to be this ways
both identify each otehr to kill each other not to care anything about peace really!!
I know this might be considered illiberal, but I sometimes wish for a gibberish filter so that I don’t wear out my mouse wheel scrolling past lengthy posts by “new”
sorry glasnost
i feel very sad seeing all disturbing picture today that’s all
i do not how to stop that war i am not expert
i wish i know and i could but i cann’t
plus
i hope you glas !are not Mr.Rae with jewish wife too
this is not jewish muslim fight i do not bleive it
C’mon ‘new’ don’t get all weepy on us. You don’t have to solve this all by yourself; we’re here to help. 🙂
New
Let’s consider a much effective solution/scenario.
Reincarnate Curtis LeMay and Arthur Harris.
Loan and rebadge the B52’s, B1’s, etc with the Star of David. a la Clintard loaning the USAF to “NATO” for the Serbian ground attack missions
LeMay and Harris have a scotch.
The lads get steak and eggs.
Hamas gets a live re-inactment of WW2 Germany.
Achma-monkeytapper gets a “hint”.
We watch the fallen faces of the MSM realizing the MSM lost the war.
Wash, rinse, repeat as necessary.
I think I’ll start eating more oatmeal.
new,
If the Arab squatters would lay down their arms, stop inculcating racist hate into the next generation and reject the Jew and infidel hatred in their Islamic texts and sermons, then they’d have a solution.
A very happy, healthy and industrious solution.
As it is, they’re kicking against the goads.
oh that is reason
sadam wish to keep land of kewit too
to let he stay as long as he want
live in kewit and use their oil
and kewit stay and do not put any gun to defend
insteas isreai and sadam dreaming
kewi went and bring all world to stop him
and now paltine has support of all world
to kick isreal back to thier
call it state of isreal
in fact isreal does not like state of isreal
isreal today poltiian want all paletin state too
that is reason tehy stay there for all execuse
only they buy it nobody else are stupid to listen to them any more
we did cry for 40 years for holyost
we do not like to continue any mor cryin for
pelstinain dead too
give their part of thier land and respect border and in fact own their buesines after land border get finish
if isreal need more money form bankrupt USA and they give it to them welcom noboby care
and if Paltinina ask after go their statt border of Paltina to travel to middle east and egypt and iraqi government to help themfor rebuilt their econmy agin welcome
unfortunaly Candian are bnakrupt to help Paletinian any more finacianlly
while we can motive otehr to help them not let them get killed or take thier land on hold
i repeat all is simple solution
isreal keep the war longer to conitinue got receive free aid from bankrupt USA because they can not live alone with no help from them
and Paltinain are made all noise since they are dying of hunger and all wars and they even cut water to them
man wake up
evil and crime has not sides or excuse to take it any more
Remember when Israel fought against Hezbolla in Lebanon we learned that over 60,000 “Canadians”-Lebaneses were LIVING PERMANENTLY in Lebanon and only used their Canadian citizenship to either get free heatlh care as needed or to get help to run away from “trouble” areas ?
Don’t you think out of 60,000 there must have been a few who were Hezbollah “members?
Well I’d bet money that some of those Hamas “members” have Canadian citizenship.
That is one of the reasons why they wear masks and hoods.
So they can not be indentified as Hamas terrorists when they come back here in Canada, and they can keep on using our tax dollars to fix their little “health problems” and to hide away safe from big bad mean Israel.
Want more of this nonsense?
Want to keep paying for more of this nonsense?
Vote liberal!
I’m a big “C” Conservative but I’ll tell you one thing for sure. When, not if, but when there is war again in Lebanon, if Harper spends one thin dime providing transportation for people out of that shit hole country, not only will I never vote for him again, I will work to encourage others to not vote for him either. I won’t go so far as to vote for the Libs or the Dippers but I will go into the voting both and spoil my ballot with the words “They are NOT Canadians”. Hopefully others will do the same.
friend of USA
i am sorry your comments is funny
if some one take the gun and wish to live even one day in Palestine
not care about their health at all
since tehy know 7 out of 10 will die soon and badly injured
people who care about doctore and body and health car never even risk thier body to go to war in first place
you are mistaken here
msulim who live in canada are harmles since tehy like it for safty and not wish to live with majority but with that security at all to made it here middle east
people who are in war in middle east never come to canada
they like their land and fight for thier land and die for thier land
as you may like your land
if we say for sake of argument
we have big land in canada and but each piece is value for us even it is full of snow and not value for midle east wh o loved warm countreis as their preferences
not inch of this land in canada is free to anybody to occupied must be come legally and buy the land so as we msut respect
those peopel in palstin like their land and care about thier countrie occupied too
if you say canada is big let give one pie to some one evey body will think you loose yourmind and similar as you think some parents has 8 kids and if 4 died they must seat and cry for thier lost
now half of land of pelstine gone under occuption of isral and voto and force of USA nad now still new name called it state of pelstine give back to them as jewish isreali saying if we give your land you come and kill us sooner
that is only excuse of criminal who steal their land and want them to not cry for their past and plan to kill the ramin of 4 kids and not give their land back today
thier reaction of peltina is normal and their anger msut respond today by ask isreal to give hteir land back
if jewish are smallin population without usa amry nobody could save them as long as possilbe
and if pelstinan reamin because big number larg mslim will feed them too
jewish are small population should see this land as tehy have seriouslayand do not put themselve in security any more nto worst to die daily or kill daily any more
The linked article reports that “Meanwhile, sources close to Hamas revealed over the weekend that the movement had “executed” more than 35 Palestinians who were suspected of collaborating with Israel and were being held in various Hamas security installations.” Would these, along with the 75 Fatah maimings by Hamas, be included in the 530 plus Palestinian deaths and injuries that Hamas and the UN and other groups have been reporting? If so, would they be falling under the ‘civilian’ category? Just asking.
In that dangerous situation
everything now happend
control even hamas and ask to act by law and civilzed in those mass murder by isreali is also inevitable
by my study in past other crisis now each individual good and bad also mix can take the gun and do their own individual job and call it i was isreali or i was hamas without main army ordered them to do so
to begin with Isreal break the law
did not give their land back and their time was overed and now when time line is not respected in politicial view nothing or no law of any civilzed can be expected too
this is good time isreali are look for to do as much as they can to kill from hamas under their
excuse !!! AND GOOD time to fatah and hamas to do reveng against each otehr know
the fact
nobody know the truth any more or can not blame any mor in these days
while i said they must find out
who did cut the water and fuel to palestinan from isreali and take to criminal court and put them in jail that is enough eviendence to made them
war crime
other individual act also can be watch by satelit and find out too who did or kill others
while they may not liek to say
isreali love it since they saw hamas and fetah like dogs or black drug dealer in street and isral love they kill each other and put blame to each otehrs since isreali know they are angry and can be under fruestration of people even peopel of pesltine can kill both parties now and all arab big as country also seat doing nothing now
isreali do another fox and cat and mouth and find some and kill them and wait for some perod back and start all over again
peopel in those area are less likely know or act civilized any more just think of survival now
this is force so many other refugee out and that is thing isreal look for
my recommandation is people of paletin and jewish go to protest together now and ask isreal and US to stop this
if hamas is gone too it is hard for isreali to seat with anybody for long period of time to do any negotition too
while i think international forces must force isreal forcet stop isreal to do cease fire and put politial who order ban water to jail and
then look for group among pelstinan to help and group among public jewish to help out isreal for future political way to come out
ask jewish and pelstine to do protest now to join together agains poltical view in their countries