25 Replies to “Tommy Douglas…”

  2. “It is a really tragic situation. We’re quite shocked that this could happen,” said Dr. Brock Wright, chief medical officer for the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority. “We’ve never had a situation like this before.”
    If it took you thirty-four hours to get to the patient, how would you know whether you haven’t had a situation like this before? Perhaps there’s somebody lying there dead who’s been there for, say, thirty-four days.

  3. Well I would be willing to pay more tax to avoid such things from happening. I would also be willing to pay even more tax if it will save the planet.
    But mostly I would be willing to pay more tax if it meant I wouldn’t have to work any more.
    Right.
    Actually I would really be willing to pay no ta and receive no government services at all in exchange for a Ruger Mini 14 and a tent. One might fare better with that exchange nowadays.

  4. I wonder how many americans die because of no healthcare? It’s sad but thank whoever it doesn’t happen very often. I’ll bet this happens all the time in the good old US of A……….eh??

  6. We have an NDP government in Manitoba that is going to stop Hallway medicine. At least in the old days you at least made it to the hallways!! NDP taking a step backwards for all Manitobans.

  7. A mini 14 and a tent? I guess my retirement plan isn’t as unusual as I thought.
    I might try for a cabin though. I’m a bit more optimistic than John V

  8. What about that patient in Alberta that died because he was refused treatment? He was from Saskatchewan. You phoney fools. You can run but you can’t hide.

  9. a close friend of mine a recent refugee from NL tells me that there is now really only one real hospital left in NL – and it’s in Halifax.

  10. This comes as no surprise,and I say that as a 30 plus yr.former employee of the healthcare field in Manitoba.The unions have destroyed..and I wish I could use a stronger word..healthcare in Man.How in hell,can a Union step in and protect an RN that both physically and verbally repeatedly abused residents in a rural Personal Care Home? There were pages of documented incidents kept,yet when mtg.with the ‘whistleblower’,the RN,the Administrator,and Union rep took place,the ‘whistleblower’ was advised to ‘kiss and make up’ with RN…that happened to be a drinking buddy of the Admin.There was NOTHING done,and same RN is still working…10 yrs later,in same facility.
    I have personally filed countless incident reports against abusive staff,as I was brought up to respect my elders,and to stand back and do nothing,I was as guilty as the abuser.Never,was anything done..the unions protect the useless,the lazy,the abusive.It is a horrible atmosphere,and I had to get out.
    I also,have just experienced a minor surgery at a ‘private’ clinic in Wpg (Maples) and I cannot tell you what superb care I rec’d.It was far and above any hosp I have ever been in.We need the right to choose.

  12. No doubt Gus. It supposed to never happen in our system. When it comes to the review there is always the old stand-by answer. “there a holes in our training, system and we will address them when we get time”.

  14. ok4ua:
    I wonder how many americans die because of no healthcare?
    No need to wonder…
    Back in 2004 (or maybe 2005) the WHO did a side-by-side comparison of all developed nations and their respective health care systems.
    In the US, your odds of dying from an otherwise treatable/curable illness was pegged at 11%. And yes, as you would guess, inability to pay was the #1 reason. However, in Canada, your odds of dying in the same situation was 23 or 24%. The reason is inefficient delivery (read wait-times).
    And money is not the issue. They identified 29 countries that had what we would call “Canadian-style” health care. Canada tied with Iceland for #1 when it came to cost of the system per person. Unfortunately, we rated 27th for delivery. That makes Canada officially the most inefficient country for health care delivery.
    But keep on believing those at the CBC when they tell you that our system is “the envy of the world.”

  15. The System, The System, The System, Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor’s US HealthCare System, So Saith The Lord Your Right Honorable Health Minister.
    Besides, a death in the ER just means a spot opened up for someone who’s really sick. What’s all the fuss? The stats just improved, didn’t they? The queue is dropping!

  16. I was actually working in that area at the time, not in the healthcare field but as a private construction contractor. I didn’t notice.
    Obviously must have been mistaken for a homeless person taking nap. The HSC’s emergency is often 75% full of people either just hanging out, snoozing, waiting for family & friends, and not seeking emergency care at all.
    But still, I’ve got to wonder how the security guards posted in the waiting area didn’t notice all that time through several shift changes.

  17. I was actually working in that area at the time, not in the healthcare field but as a private construction contractor. I didn’t notice.
    Obviously must have been mistaken for a homeless person taking nap. The HSC’s emergency is often 75% full of people either just hanging out, snoozing, waiting for family & friends, and not seeking emergency care at all.
    The new waiting area wasn’t designed very well and certainly contributed. A long and narrow space with the reception and security at one far end. But still, I’ve got to wonder how the security guards posted in the waiting area never noticed.

  18. Tommy Douglas as greatest Canadian?? What the hell about Terry Fox! Even the kids got this one right and the CBC peed all over their shoes again.

  19. In the last few years, I have spent many hours in hospitals ensuring that my aging parents received the quality health care services they deserved.
    It happened once that incompetent and indifferent nursing staff did not attend to my Dad’s needs and I kicked up a fuss, all the way to the top echelon, to make sure the incident was documented. But on balance, the health care that my parents received was top-notch professional, exemplary and compassionate.

  20. There are actually comments on the CBC web site of people trying to justify lying dead for 34!!!!! hours in an ER with nobody even noticing. Nurses are complaining that they should not get the blame, people claiming that the man should have triaged himself, and so on.
    34!!!!!
    34 hours!!!!
    dead!!!!
    It just goes to show that there will always be people to defend the indefensible.

  21. I am not surprised.
    What surprises me is that this doesn’t happen every friggin’ week.
    I’ll tell you where it does happen every week, is in the ER. Once you get behind that curtain you can be there all day and they forget you’re there. No food, no meds, no BLANKET.
    This is not incompetence. The staff are not idiots, that’s the true tragedy of it. The system itself is non-functional. It literally cannot work. No amount of money can make it work.

  22. While it remains utterly inexcusable, he was not sitting there dead for 34 hours. He was in the ER for 34 hours.

  23. Bryce,
    Do you always just make up random numbers when trying to prove your point?
    Fact:
    Canada spends 10.6% of its GDP on healthcare.
    U.S. spends 15.2% of its GDP on healthcare.
    Canada has an infant mortality rate 20% lower than the U.S. rate (5.3 for Canada, 6.3 for U.S.).
    Even though they don’t even have universal care, they still pay 50% more of their nations wealth on health care than we do. The U.S. is the ONLY industrialized wealthy nations that does not have universal coverage. The World Health Organization (WHO) in 2000 ranked the U.S. health care system first in both responsiveness and expenditure, but 37th in overall performance and 72nd by overall level of health (among 191 member nations included in the study).
    WHO actually ranked Canada 30th, while the U.S. got 37th place.
    I think you are a liar, friend.

  24. Bryce,
    Do you always just make up random numbers when trying to prove your point?
    Fact:
    Canada spends 10.6% of its GDP on healthcare.
    U.S. spends 15.2% of its GDP on healthcare.
    Canada has an infant mortality rate 20% lower than the U.S. rate (5.3 for Canada, 6.3 for U.S.).
    Even though they don’t even have universal care, they still pay 50% more of their nations wealth on health care than we do. The U.S. is the ONLY industrialized wealthy nations that does not have universal coverage. The World Health Organization (WHO) in 2000 ranked the U.S. health care system first in both responsiveness and expenditure, but 37th in overall performance and 72nd by overall level of health (among 191 member nations included in the study).
    WHO actually ranked Canada 30th, while the U.S. got 37th place.
    I think you are a liar, friend. A simple google search reveals this information for any who would like to see.

  25. bar-jebus, I just talked to my Mum today. Seems she’s got arthritis in her hip, needs an MRI to see how bad.
    She could get an MRI of the hip done tomorrow in Buffalo, NY. Wanna guess how many MONTHS she’s going to wait here in Southern Ontario, where we have more hospitals and more MRI machines per capita than anywhere else in Canada?
    Sure hope she doesn’t need surgery, she’ll be dead of old age before she gets to the head of that line.
    You are a damn fool sir, if you think people get less/worse health care in the USA than they do here.

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