22 Replies to “M-M-M-Melamine”

  1. this is a good sign IMO. Seeing Chinese execs holding press conferences indicates that the ROC is moving ever further towards democracy and first world business ethics. It is startling how far they have come from the near stone age conditions of the great leap forward.
    To shut down trade completely would punish the ethical quality business operations as well as the bad.

  2. I fully agree, Gord Tulk. What we are seeeing now, is ‘third world practices of industrialism, which are ‘do whatever it takes to get money’..a form of elitism.. being confronted with the capitalist CONSUMER’s needs and choices.
    And the Capitalist Consumer needs goods that are quality, reliable, acceptable, affordable. That means that it isn’t the old socialist ‘whatever the Govt elite says’..it’s whatever the capitalist consumer will purchase. And we’ll only purchase quality goods.
    Third world countries aren’t used to this and China is undergoing a huge ‘wake-up call’ and realizing this. The fact that we’ve kept trade open means that this situation is being confronted. They can’t get away with selling poiseded or damaged goods. In a socialist state – they can; the consumer has no choice. In a capitalist state, the consumer is The Boss.

  3. Give them Jack Leyton, he will demand inspectors in every dairy and blame Harper for the mess.

  4. …Global warming causes milk to curdle more quickly than anticipated or best before date.
    It has now been proven by the UN and the scientific community that minute amounts of Melamine in baby milk helps reduce curdling time.
    Whitewash News at 6.

  5. “To shut down trade completely would punish the ethical quality business operations as well as the bad. ”
    Gord, I for one don’t agree. The Thugs who run China and the unethical capitalists here don’t give a rats a** about consumer safety. How could you market this quantity of produce without some lowly inspector somewhere finding it out? Are there any inspectors? Most of our corporations self regulate 100 times better than this. Our airline workers are catching problems all the time and reporting to government regulators when necessary; just as an example.
    Bang on Tomax7; “Whitewash news at 6”.

  6. The problems Canda is again as i said
    too much coffe break
    canada has so many source for made beef and chikcne bu they prefer to birn it from Brazil or china or out of canda
    less work for mid clas executive and more salray for thema nd more money for Candian to pay bills for buying food stuffs
    next is close the door is not good idea is
    if we leave conservativ put placare for any new comer ” go home”
    as you can see Air canada get bankrup for bad servide and high end and nobodylike to become tour to Canda and if hey come once they are not back agin
    we must put sign
    do not close the borde
    “come back again with more money for us”
    if Toronto change the city to welcome more people and they need to fly to Canda and made Canda get more busy air line
    and if more people come as tourist need more food to eat and more employee to work
    and more building to built if we proof Toront is not Chicago and Newyork nd safe city while we are shame to say that with all the time
    blame to teenger and no more gun control from Mr. Miller may need beter mayoer and better director ro help him at least
    close the door sound catholic woman talk and war and fight is more republican and conservativ love doing it
    if you stay in peace we can do trade together
    Canda is too big landa nd too big resource
    unfortunaly is lack of good leader and good management to coutrny today ecomonic health and food and tranportation and distribution
    we call it SUPLLY chain
    from A to Z
    if you made so many supermaket not body come and we close the border and we humuliate and call naming as conservativ love it and Liberal may be agree in heir heart wtih them at leat are talk nice to made Canda welcom land for tourism still
    lack of correct political way is this
    I remember again memory of me with Catholic woman who always thinkg if she has competitor mus be fight them to get bankrupt
    i said once to her she is from cicilian countries
    i said I am not going to blame men in this countires I am blaming woman in this countires
    so much hate and discrimnation transfer from women to men to politic to competion to war to trade to cut and to embargo Sarah Palin is talk about
    when womn get power here may get angry and cut all peopel out and as we saw Mr. Chretena only mistake was he was lisen to his wife and too many women in year 2001 to 2003 to enter war and stock us there still
    teh problems was not liberla the problmes was women in Canada who got money and power to fight all with no mercy with full hate by bulling
    becuase when they do liek to do anything they want today and noboey listne to them they are not use brain they use heart instead andemotion
    I thik we must open the border with cautis
    and tell Mr. Miller cut the gun and made city safe and made heart in peace as we hear so many F nad B word in this city in stret talker people that words is like bullet goes to heart by hate of peopel to each other and made food healthy too
    change woman befoe change men views who grow children here

  7. As I and ET said, this is evidence of China moving from the third world to the first. They are not there yet by any menas but they have made huge progress.
    And might I point out that our systems are hardly error and corruption-free. Both here and in China it is public scrutiny and consumer power that will hold producers to account if they produce substandard or unsafe products.

  8. First, they put melamine in the dog and cat food and were caught when epidemic numbers of North American dogs and cats started dying mysteriously due to renal failure.
    Then, they put melamine in infant formula and Chinese babies started dying mysteriously, more than usual.
    I tend to be with Tomax7 and Gunney99: Why wasn’t being caught once enough? Melamine killing cats and dogs, you’d think, might alert Chinese manufacturers to the fact that it would be a very bad idea to lace baby formula with melamine. On the other hand, if life is cheap and seeing the little sparrow fall means nothing to you, then maybe you would try to bulk up your product with plastic masquerading as protein.
    I wonder how many North Americans are avoiding China Towns in their cities? At least avoiding the purchase of foodstuffs? I wonder how many North Americans have stopped going to Chinese restaurants and, instead, go to Sushi or Thai restaurants? I wonder how many North Americans avoid buying ANYTHING from China?

  9. If I know melamin from china is plastic less brakable products from China
    if you use melamin from China you can not use microwave for it those posien and deadly if you use animal food in melamin maiteial and use microwave or warm thing
    if I think You mean said the same Melamine I am talking about
    melamin use for dishes in china to be cheap
    chinnse are run the world they work hard adn tehy have so many people ther tehn theymsut work had first hey word as low income money for west and now they got indepnednt
    Canada can do it if you inter so many X kilo form outside not goivemrne can subsic farmet to made more and not inter to get independant too
    still is SUpply chain issue is mater
    unless you use chinees canadina to help you

  10. Ah, they don’t use pure melamine plastic to adulterate milk, baby formula, gluten, pet food filler, etc, that would be stupid and expensive. What they do use is a waste byproduct liquid from the urea fertilizer production process. You see it has to be cheaper and a bit less stinky than real urine which also works if the consumers aren’t too familiar with the taste of the 100% real product.

  11. batb; you can also add lead in paint and in childrens toys, imitations of designer goods, people smuggling where the Chinese Military are involved, Chinese spies in NA industry, elections involvement, and cheap handguns smuggled to the criminal element. And that’s only a partial list.

  12. Just a note from my trip to China – though my host was at the top of the pyramid in the dog show world, he had not heard a word of the tainted dog food scandal in North America. That’s how controlled the Chinese media is.
    And I recall how others scoffed when I suggested that scenes I was seeing on CCTV of the Chinese army “rescuing” earthquake survivors were staged.

  13. On the one hand, one must despise and revile anyone who is evil enough to adulterate baby food. Shooting is too good for them.
    On the other hand, are American bankers any better? They just hoisted their own country for a -trillion- bucks. Shooting is too good for them.
    Yes, stomp out evil in China, but let’s not forget our own back yard. Plenty stomping to do here at home, I figure.

  14. Kate: “And I recall how others scoffed when I suggested that scenes I was seeing on CCTV of the Chinese army “rescuing” earthquake survivors were staged.”
    …did the patriotic music playing in the background give it away?
    😉

  15. The Phantom: “Yes, stomp out evil in China, but let’s not forget our own back yard. Plenty stomping to do here at home, I figure”
    …i got an idea, feed the bankers baby food.
    Get two birds with one stone.

  16. tomax7: “…feed the bankers baby food.”
    Good one!
    Gunney99: “…you can also add lead in paint and in childrens toys…”
    I bought a toy at a yard sale, cute little “muffin maiden,” that I knew my then-5-year-old would love. Within a few hours of playing with it, she broke out in hives all over her body. (I took photos, it was so dramatic.) It took me a while, a day or so, to isolate the culprit.
    Sure enough, it was made in China. I wrote to the federal government department–‘can’t remember which one–with all details of the toy. Didn’t get an answer. This was in 1992.

  17. All things made in China is crap…I bought the below things and had problems.
    1. Razor – Have to smack it on the counter to work
    2. Jacket. Washed and the metal buttons rusted
    which screwed up the jacket
    3. Winter boots that slip on ice all the time
    4. Jacket – Zipper dosen’t work
    As for buying food…no chancie Mr. Whalen

  18. I also try to avoid buying anything made in China except guns and ammo. Chinese made SKS’s are so cheap that I stocked up on them about 10 years ago and also bought as much 7.62×39 as I could afford back them. They’ve shot just fine and the only Chinese ammo I’ve had problems with was 9 mm which my Glock didn’t like.

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