After driving through southeastern Saskatchewan this afternoon, I decided it was a good time to place this post in some context…
For our readers who are unfamiliar with Saskatchewan, we are the trapezoidal province in the center of Canada. To provide a sense of scale, I’ve placed England (red) in the north central portion of the province.
The Bakken Play is represented in blue.

[sputtering, spitting faux outrage] But that’s DIRTY oil!!!
Good grief, we are sitting on a sea of oil, no foolin’!
You people deserve this windfall if anyone in Canada does, us Albertans have benifitted from our resources and with the help of you stubble-jumpers we have developed them through hard work. There is no izzy money when one is hanging off a monkey board in 30 below with a wind, I would love to see that Mr. Tidy hands professor try it. Thankfully you got rid of the stinking commies hopefully for good, now if we could only rid the federal scene of stinking liberals the country could realize it full potential.
Something is not right here…
Why is Alberta left off the gravy train? I demand a recount!
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I wish the best for Saskatchewan. While you can still dream. Particularly when people start coming back home to jobs with less socialism. This will be great until you are robbed by Ottawa. For as sure as the winter brining snow, Ontario will arrive with the hucksters of State Nationalism. In other words carpet baggers with official sanction to steal Provincial wealth to bleed East.
Not only do you not need no stinking giant fans, it turns out they’re pretty useless too…
Wind Power Fails to live up to hype
I know that they’re playing politics of division, the only game they know, but the Liberal braintrust (?) have made a serious miscalculation on this one. They’re fighting fire with sticks of dynamite.
Dion is in Stampede city tomorrow to blow his horn on the Green Shaft. I can hardly wait to see the responce. Should be very funny to see him stumble like he did in Sask. last week.
Ate willz bee izzy toz tock toz da gode pipples hov Albertsa. Wit dhare coowbyez hotts ond beefs bergars. Dayz willz onderstonds dats da greenz shiftz, vil bee ah godez ting forz da pipples hov Albertsa az dayz vill bee holpingz da pipplez of alz centralz Conada. Dayz vil hov toz onderstonds dat dayz hov toes mochz moneyz ond dayz nedez to shore itz. Dats on izzy ting forez dem tooz doz I tink.
Cheers
The jury’s out: should the people of the province of Saskatchewan control their own natural resources, or should the decisions be made by voters in Liberal ridings?
It’s a really tough call, nationally-speaking.
When does the Bakken windfall tax come into effect?
Same time as the Athabasca Oilsands windfall tax?
25 Billion barrels X $150 = Dats not Fare!
The Bakken field looks like a seal.
Does Heather Mills know about this?
Where’s me Hakapik too?
Wanna really make ’em howl? Saskatchewan should announce with great fanfare, the construction of a new oil pipeline direct to the US. Have G.W. cut the ribbon on the unveiling. Then you’d really see the left howl.
On a slightly tangential matter:
How many IPCC climate stations are in Britain? How many in Sask.?
What percentage of Britain is covered in roads or buildings? What percentage of Sask.? Does the IPCC correct for urban heat islands?
My suspected answers: Many. Few. Lots. Little. No.
Centre of Canada?
Me thinks our host needs a geography lesson!
Get a huge straw in the ground ASAP and start sucking that stuff up before North Dakota gets at it.
Well done, and thank you for ignoring the political posturing of our fearless leaders concerning the ‘cleanliness’ of your particular brands of crbon-based fuel.
We will need it eventually, all of us. You might as well get paid for it.
I think I’d take the lease money now, and not wait to see how Nationalization plays out.
Atlanticjim,
I believe the reference is about the NEW center of the country, with Ontario’s economy circling the bowl, the West is now IN.
IN CONTROL.
great news for Saskatchewan! Some of the best Canadians come from there.
Is that the correct latitude for England?
a friend who owns a small oil ex. co. is drilling in Manitoba as i type.
Centre of Canada?
Me thinks our host needs a geography lesson!
Posted by: AtlanticJim at July 4, 2008 6:49 AM
With the Eastern boundary of SK being some 330km west of the geographical centre of Canada, methinks it is one hell of a lot closer to the centre of Canada than the fine folks of so-called Cental Canada.
Does that help with your geography AtlanticJim?
tsk tsk, you dream about sticking that giant straw under the border to suck out all that oil from under the American’s feet?
GO FOR IT.
Harry Reid won’t notice.
Well sober how’s about we do a little math here, k?
Distance from St. John’s to Regina – 5400 km
Distance from Victoria to Regina – 1800 km
Gotta love that folks in Saskatchewan and Alberta are turning into exactly what they hate about the folks in Ontario.
It is a huge resourse but it is not as simple as sticking a straw in and sucking it out.
http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2008/05/23/f-langton-bakken.html?ref=rss
“The problem is that the oil available in the Bakken, however much there may be, is encased in sheets of non-porous shale. Traditional drilling methods yield little usable oil compared to the expense required to retrieve it.”
This:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/03/wind_power_needs_dirty_pricey_gas_backup_report/print.html
should be required reading for everyone who thinks wind generation is useful.
Hey, the first Newfie troll!
Wanna see the Newfie troll come out from under it’s “rock”?
Saskatchewan in indisputably the geographic of Canada. Over 2000 scientists agree.
Does the Bakken Play encompass Delisle?
Just wondering.
More:
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/008653.html
Well i have seen the geographical center of Canada and according to the hwy markers its east of winnipeg. The geographical center of North America is also not too far away, which I’ve also seen in Rugby, ND.
So, if Manitoba ends up finding as much oil as Sask and AB we will truly be the center of the universe! (unfortunatly we have Gary Doer and his socialist ndp crew running the show)
Hey Jim, Geographic centre is anouy 20km east of Winnipeg. Geographic centre of North America is Rugby ND about 150km south of Brandon MB.
Hers a newsflash that I would have thought any sailor would know. Road miles don’t mean a thing when it comes to distance. So when we drive from A – B the road miles are likely longer than the distance between them. ESPECIALLY through the Maritimes, QC and ON. Then again in BC, but not nearly as bad.
So here’s an idea AtlanticJim: grow up.
crap, anouny = about
My apologies. Geograhic centre of Canada IS in MB, but will be well north of Winnipeg as well as about 230km east. However the central meridian cairn as placed by the Royal Geographical Society is approximately 20km east of Winnipeg. The “old” prime meridian cairn, placed before Nfld. joined Confederation is located about 5km west of the Headingly MB scale.
Think I’ll trust the Geographical Society’s measurements over your Google maps distance click Jim.
AtlanticJim, that’s not quite an apt comparison.
How ’bout we do some distances from the east-west geographic centre of Canada (it’s just east of Winnipeg, but I’ll use Winnipeg itself as a proxy, as it’s close enough in this case).
From http://www.geobytes.com/CityDistanceTool.htm?loadpage
Regina to Winnipeg: 534 km (as the crow flies)
St. John’s to Winnipeg: 3224 km
Toronto to Winnipeg: 1514 km
I think Regina has more of a right to be called “central Canada” than Toronto…
Jeez I hate fat finger disease. “230km east” posted, “20km east” intended to be posted.
The geographical center is appropriately named Landmark, Manitoba
Can anyone tell me who owns the mineral leases in the Bakken play? Since the oil must be extracted from shale, will the developers need regular oil leases or mineral leases? Are we talking open pit mining as in the oilsands?
You should remember that the oilsands projects took a very long time to get rolling. The startup will create a lot of jobs, but royalties will be a few years coming. I’d really like to see an international play, since the deposit straddles the border. That might keep India and China from buying up leases like they’ve done in the Alberta oilsands.
Jesu Christu!
SK has been sponging off Ontario (and Alberta) since the last ice age and 44 seconds after you become a “have province” you’re whining about non-existent conspiracy theories about Ontario stealing all of your money – money not yet even earned I might add.
Perhaps after TAKING so long you’re thinking every other place does the same.
Note to SK: You aren’t Alberta, you never were. SK is the home of socialism. That has been your biggest export since confederation – even bigger than your grain. In fact, if the rest of the country takes your oil (not that it’s going to happen) it would only compensate us for Tommy Douglas and the NDP.
Sober, AtlanticJim, Nicole, you’re all completely wrong. Wrong-o. Couldn’t be wrong-er.
Everybody knows the exact center of Canada, that point about which all else revolves, is Toronto. The actual pivot point is believed to be a manhole cover in the middle of the intersection at Yonge and Bloor. Sometimes you can see it turning if you look reeeeeal close.
Torontonians also know that the world ends somewhere a little past Oakville on the west and Scarborough on the east. If you’re not careful on the QEW past Trafalgar Road you’ll drive off the edge of the universe and be lost forever. Hell, you could end up in… Saskatoon even! Or worse, Hamilton!
This article is dated December 2007. Have there been any updates?
I’m glad you said it Warwick. The main reason SK still has reserves is the reluctance of oil companies to invest because of an “unstable” political scene.
Phantom:
“The actual pivot point is believed to be a manhole cover in the middle of the intersection at Yonge and Bloor.”
Oh how wrong you are! The centre of Canada is an ugly building on Front Street called “CBC headquarters.” At least in its own mind.
Their are secondary hubs in Rosedale and the Annex.
These are places to be avoided at all costs. They are polluted with stupid and you wouldn’t want to catch it.
Yes, Ellie there are – if you count new pumpjacks virtually stacked atop one another in the Stoughton-Forget area an “update”.
I’ll post a few phots after I get home Tuesday.
Bakken is thought to contain 4 billion barrels…not 400 billion.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2032866/posts
Warwick, you are right.
But the political climate has changed in Sk. I believe that the new government here will leave the socialists like the dinosaurs. Bones buried under layers of success and wealth.
“I’ve placed England (red) in the north central portion of the province.”
The Queen: “We are not amused!”
😉
Yes, as all conservatives are, I was more than happy that SK booting out the conniving comrades in the NDP and I sincerely wish the province all the best going forward.
I just wish supposedly fellow “conservatives” in SK would quit scapegoating Ontario as if it’s our fault you lot elected the NDP for all those decades while we paid you untold billions in equalization.
dp, the oil in the Bakken play is found in a thin bed of sandstone, or sometimes siltstone, sandwiched between two layers of shale.
It’s much too deep to be mined, nor is that necessary. The Bakken is typically exploited by drilling multi-leg horizontal wells along the zone, and then pumping from the point where the horizontal legs meet the main wellbore.
It’s the development of horizontal drilling technology that has made this play possible.
“It’s the development of horizontal drilling technology that has made this play possible.”
I also believe this was the technology Saddam was using in the ’80s to steal oil across the boarder from Kuwait… lol.
Finding the oil, and doing something with it are two different issues. Canadian refineries are operating at 90% of capacity and, as far as I know, no new refineries are being built.
ie. all we can do is export the stuff; great for revenue but that’s about it. No different than B.C. exporting raw logs rather than supporting Canadian industry, primary and secondary. Really really short sighted.
(I just know somebody’s going to say that B.C. doesn’t export raw lumber…
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/story.html?id=0fb97bf8-4bab-4b01-a6ce-c1abb0a8e76f&k=92715)
Theres also a good article in the calgary hearald today talking about this and the djion tax