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June 30, 2008

A Friendly Reminder For Stephane Dion

In all your garble about "alternative" energy technology coming to Saskatchewan on the gentle green wings of Liberal faeries, it appears you've fallen victim to an embarrassing oversight.

So if you would, Mr. Dion - copy this down and post it to your caucus Energy Star fridge door;

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1. Saskatchewan floats upon lakes of oil.
2. The beaches of those lakes are comprised of endless glistening dunes of coal.
3. Wafting over the scene are massive cumulous clouds of natural gas.
4. We have a population density of well under 2 persons per square km.

You see, Saskatchewan doesn't need no stinking giant fans. We don't need no stinking giant mirrors. We don't need no stinking puny hybrids. (We don't need no stinking nuclear power, for that matter, though we're positively glowing with that, too.)

In short, Saskatchewan is not in danger of "running out" of conventional energy. Not many Liberals seem to know this. I believe they may have us mistaken for Ontario.

We have enough conventional energy in Saskatchewan to power every electrical grid, fill every SUV, and idle in every drive through in the province until long after the remainder of the world has ground to a halt. (In fact, we should probably make drive-through's mandatory just to burn off the stuff that bubbles up from the ground on its own.)

So you won't be taking our money to build over-priced, underperforming "alternative energy" crap we don't need. You can use your money to build over-priced, underperforming crap we don't need.

I hope this has helped clarify matters.

Thank you.

One more thing - if we're the ones doing all the polluting...

...then how come Toronto has all of the smog?

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Posted by Kate at June 30, 2008 5:47 PM
Comments

AMEN and AMEN to that Kate! That sounds like a perfect letter to the G&M.

Posted by: Sammy at June 30, 2008 7:20 PM

Dear Steffi,

Kiss my natural gas surplused, oil soaked, uranium enriched ass.

We don't need no stink'n Lieberal, pointy headed professor, city boy who eat hot dogs with a Knife & fork to tell us what to do with our energy reserves.

Comprenez-vous ??

Posted by: Fred at June 30, 2008 7:29 PM

right on!!!!!!!!! ann

Posted by: ann at June 30, 2008 7:40 PM

right on!!!!!!!!! ann

Posted by: ann at June 30, 2008 7:40 PM

Kate

Would that image of the big smoke be the same one CBC doctored in an AGW article?


Turn about is fair play.

Syncro

Posted by: syncrodox at June 30, 2008 7:43 PM

Keep up the good work Kate...
That l'il house on the praire reminds of the Clampetts.
You got Texas gold out there!
And we know the blue sky wasn't photoshopped.
Heh...no wonder Squinty Mcguinty approved of Dion's shaft.

Posted by: bluetech at June 30, 2008 7:47 PM

Excellent post. It must go without saying that we wouldn't reject practical and cost-effective alternative energy systems if some whiz-kid were to come up with one. But by the same token it would be just insane to reject existing systems until said whiz-kid does his thing and proves that the alternative is actually an improvement.

A minor question, Kate. That pic of Toronto looks familiar. Wasn't that the one that the CBC (or someone) p-shopped to appear murkier in order to demonstrate the effects of climate change and CO2 emissions (even though the smoke plume in the foreground is primarily water vapour and the smog in the background is made of particulates)?

Just wondering. Because if so, then be ready for some wanker out there to ignore the point of the photo (the smog) just to accuse you of some sort of dishonesty.

Posted by: Doug at June 30, 2008 7:52 PM

Syncro: You beat me to it .... ;)

Posted by: Doug at June 30, 2008 7:54 PM

Dion's Green Shaft Plan
(carbon tax on every breath you take)


Every breath you take
Every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
Ill be taxing you

Every single day
Every word you say
Every game you play
Every night you stay
Ill be taxing you

Oh, cant you see
You belong to me
How my poor heart aches
With every step you take

Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
Ill be taxing you

Since youve gone I been lost without a trace
I dream at night I can only see your face
I look around but its you I cant replace
I feel so cold and I long for your embrace
I keep crying baby, baby, please...

Oh, cant you see
You belong to me
How my poor heart aches
With every breath you take

Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
Ill be taxing you

Every move you make
Every step you take
Ill be taxing you

Ill be taxing you
Ill be taxing you
Ill be taxing you
Ill be taxing you...

Posted by: Karol Karolak at June 30, 2008 8:04 PM

This is exactly the image that was going through my head when I was listening to that fool Stephan Dion talk about how Saskatchewan and Alberta are polluting the world with carbon dioxide, a colorless odorless gas that is vital to plant life. This "Green Shift" is like a Seinfeld episode. This is a crisis about nothing. The amazing thing is that so many people actually buy into the insanity. Canadians better wake up because if the that silly little man ever becomes Prime Minister we are in big trouble.

Posted by: Bigsister at June 30, 2008 8:07 PM

Doug

Timing is every thing! Further to that theme, I was given an opportunity to post a satirical story here:

http://peacemoonbeam.typepad.com/

Mocking Dion is fun.

Syncro

p.s. Sorry again Kate but my nuts are on the line here and I will do whatever it takes.

Posted by: syncrodox at June 30, 2008 8:09 PM

OIL. One price for the West another for the rest.

This time around we can throw the east crumbs.

Posted by: Western Canadian at June 30, 2008 8:19 PM

There's a decent market for grain too.

But hey, don't get too excited. The Liberals would unleash that military they've been building up all these years to keep bit in the west's mouth.

How far would they go?

"Just watch me".

Posted by: Shaken at June 30, 2008 8:23 PM

Dont you know a polar bear dies every time you start your truck.

Posted by: doug at June 30, 2008 8:25 PM

A fiver for the first moonbat to throw out the it's not smog , it's just water vapor blast .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at June 30, 2008 8:35 PM

Hybrid's and electric cars are overated. There is a shelf life for the battery and when an owner takes it in to trade it in on a new car, the owner will find that his expensive hybrid has no value. The value of the car is dependent on the battery and since there is no way of ensuring the health of the battery, any savvy purchaser is not going to buy a potential dud, unless his name is Dion. A new battery is about $7,000. would you want to buy a used car and immediately have to pay another $7,000 on top to ensure it is useable?

Posted by: Norman at June 30, 2008 8:56 PM

Mary T: "To the voters in TO and southern Ont."
(Angry's blog)

Mary T knows that Ontario has 41 Conservative MPs.

IMO, telling easterners to freeze in the dark is playing into socialist Citoyen Dion-Liberals' hands.
Beware.

Posted by: maz2 at June 30, 2008 9:02 PM

GTA vs Sask, vis-a-vis pollution....GTA loses hands down.

Once you get past the litter, the wannabe gang bangers and the winos who have pi$$ed themselves, don't even bother trying to go for a run outdoors.

Last time I made that mistake, I could not breathe after a few miles(I normally run 5)and my chest hurt for 2 days.

You can actually start smelling the cesspool at about Oshawa when coming in from the east. And after a rain, the shoreline of lake Ontario is as toxic as any lake in NA.

Idiot moonbats and their throwing of rocks whilst living in glass houses.

LEFTARD MORONS!
VOTE REFORM!
GO ARMY!

Posted by: kingstonlad at June 30, 2008 9:12 PM

Excellent..... I had a thought the other day,one of a few,and I wonder if it is possible to shift the eco-elite into thinking that we can save the planet by purging it of oil.Nothing lives in oil,nothing grows in oil,oil is dirty. Oil in the planet is akin to a pus-filled boil that must be lanced for the patient to survive...Whenever I fly anywhere I am amazed by the vast area of the planet that has no one around.No pollution,flowing rivers,majestic mountains,etc. I believe the atmosphere is earth's lungs and they are extremely healthy,except for a few blemishes,particularily around the Kyoto area. So,don't worry about killing a polar bear when you crank over the truck,think that you are lancing the boil.

Posted by: wallyj at June 30, 2008 9:19 PM

"Canada's economy rebounds"

http://tinyurl.com/4c8gz2

No worry. This can be corrected. Elect Dion.

Posted by: Sounder at June 30, 2008 9:32 PM

Toronto has all the smog and all the "smug", according to Dion.

Posted by: Soccermom at June 30, 2008 9:52 PM

I haven't heard of anyone else doing this, but I looked at the numbers and this is what I found:

Alberta accounts for 31% of CO2 emissions and 10% of the population, Saskatchewan accounts for 9.6% of CO2 emissions and 3.1% of the population, Ontario accounts for 27.2% of CO2 emissions and 38.9% of the population, and Qubec accounts for 12.1% of CO2 emissions and 23.6% of the population. If you tax people based on the CO2 emissions and then give tax breaks in proportion to the population this represents a massive monetary transfer from Alberta and Saskatchewan towards Ontario and Qubec; if you assume a tax of $15 Billion this transfer would be (roughly) $1,000 for every man woman and child in Alberta and Saskatchewan.

Now, why this is (in my opinion) amazingly unfair is that the main reasons Alberta and Saskatchewan have such high CO2 emissions is because we provide the energy resources and food for the rest of Canada. In my opinion it is insane to tax Alberta and Saskatchewan for the beef, wheat and oil that is eaten in Ontario and Qubec.

Posted by: NoOne at June 30, 2008 10:06 PM

jus because you ave clean air in halberta hand sass cadj chewon does not mean da wistern pipples shoud not pay for tron toe. and we clean hup da drugs der too. dis is equalize the county. equal what we take from you we give to ka beck.-Borat Dion.

can you not see , hif ontario industy and ka bec industry is go down , da west muss go down too.dis is a izzy promise

Posted by: cal2 at June 30, 2008 10:07 PM

Kate,

You left Potash off the list and I can tell you that potash is the new oil. Most of the world needs it even more than they need oil.

Potash makes crops grow.

People like oil second best to food.

Saskatchewan is also floating on lakes of potash.

The Gap has filled.

Look good on you.

Posted by: John V at June 30, 2008 10:07 PM

a direct to Garth Turner, now I feel like I need a shower.

it was interesting though reading some of his comments. northern alberta moonscape?
again I think CBCpravda is sending folks pictures of Sudbury.

Posted by: cal2 at June 30, 2008 10:12 PM

Here's a basic truth I've never heard a political or media pundit point out......

Stephen Harper understands the people of Quebec about thirty times better than Stephane Dion understands westerners.

Posted by: Canadian Observer at June 30, 2008 10:13 PM

The green shaft will be bought into not because it will supposedly do anything for the environment. It will be bought into because it is the way to "stick it to the (so called)rich". Which will be everyone belonging to the middle class, meaning 'us'.

Unfortunately, this has become the socialist creed: Begrudge your neighbour because he or she has more money, a better job, nicer things, a better spouse, more toys, etc. He or she must have cheated to get these things and it is not fair that you cannot sit on your a** and have the same. If you cannot have it, no one should have it. It is a sin against humanity if you don't knock your neighbour down to your level.

Thus, "Socialism" is properly defined as the system of contolling and enslaving the masses by fooling them into thinking they are sticking it to the rich.

Posted by: Mike T at June 30, 2008 10:19 PM

Lots of business at Garth's Global Warming Kool-Aid stand. Deep draughts being swallowed. Could it be that liberals dumbed down our education system purposefully?

Posted by: Shaken at June 30, 2008 10:22 PM

Obviously,the residents of Alberta and Saskatchewan,are providing the residents of Toronto,and the rest of Canada, with the dangerous substance that is slowly killing them.We are the 'pusher man'. We are the enablers. Dion knows that,and is punishing us as he should,he is so wise. But,I don't think the gradual withdrawal method will be effective.It is time for tough love. The only way that the citizens of Toronto,and the rest of Canada,will beat their addiction to the sweet,sweet energy of the west,is to go cold turkey.We must CUT.THEM.OFF. It is the responsible thing to do.

Posted by: wallyj at June 30, 2008 10:31 PM

Except that we export the vast majority, if not all, the resources produced here. So, it won't last that long. I am not in favour of this green shift, but you need to be more honest in your summary of these facts.

Posted by: Quimby at June 30, 2008 10:31 PM

Shaken,

Of course it's deliberate. It doesn't take much brain power to figure out that it is much harder to control a well-educated population than a population of superstitious fearful, weak, indecisive, low self-esteem turds that our educational system puts out now. There is also very little offered in trades. God forbid people should aspire to a blue collar job. That would also reduce the need to import more workers, many of whom do have some skills.

Most teachers are terribly ignorant and self-centered themselves. I have met many and worked with many in the course of my work. I know what I am saying.

If you meet a Canadian who is smart, savvy, confident and skilled. You have met someone who got that way in spite of our educational system.

Perhaps good parents, private school, personal intelligence, good role models etc.

If our government wanted a smart, educated and skilled population they certainly have the power to put that into effect.

So why don't they?

People of the the left "believe" what they are told.

People on the right are more skeptical, will research and draw conclusion based on the evidence. They will then "know" what to believe because it's the fact of the matter.

Which kind of person would a control freak want as a constituent?

Posted by: John V at June 30, 2008 10:35 PM

John V.

In the back rooms of all the political parties is the slogan not "You can fool some of the people all of the time. Those are the ones we must concentrate on!"?

Posted by: JET at June 30, 2008 10:43 PM

I was reading comments in the Gazette today. Comments seemed to be split with respect to support or not the Green Shaft. What struck me is that a certain number of people who are supporters qualified their remarks by saying -- well if it really is to be revenue neutral. I think people are VERY confused on this point. It is NOT revenue neutral for you or me -- quite the reverse. I think it was Steve Janke who pointed out about a week ago that all taxes cost something to implement. Add to this the significant increase in costs for things like food (which are hauled by trucks, trains, etc.) and you are looking at significant increase in the cost of living for everyone. The "tax cuts" by Liberals seem paltry when these other issues are looked at.
Then -- because of increased municipal and provincial costs (someone has to pay for increased cost of heating, running busses, etc.) I am concerned about the numbers of people that have no clue about how they will be affected by this. Dion's claim of "revenue neutral" is essentially meaningless to the extent that it does not address the actual cost to individuals. His "Auditor General" will "oversee" is nothing but political posturing. The tax is deceptive and many Canadians are being duped.

Posted by: LindaL at June 30, 2008 10:43 PM

What is Harper waiting for... His media folk need to use the British Circus-Circus Parody were the Guy is facing the Black Knight. Cast Dion as the guy willing to see Canada hacked to bits to prove the Carbon policy is good for the US...

This would play well in the US:
See America, The Canadians give up then GM Union jobs for Carbon Tax & Big AL. We Canadians don't make trucks..Canadian love not making trucks! Hey! where did all those trucks come from..Made in China! I important person in America now, some Union folk from Detroit just called and want Big Al & I to go fishing with them. Duh

Posted by: Slap Shot at June 30, 2008 11:04 PM

LindaL - a very valid point. I almost drove off the road yesterday when I heard on the radio that according to some poll the Liberals are gaining on the Conservatives, suggesting it has to do with Dion's idiot tax. If there is any truth to this, then I guess I might as well give up on Canada which was once a great and free country. How stupid can one get?

Posted by: Alain at June 30, 2008 11:31 PM

Quimby,at 10:31,we do export much of the production. But Canada is not exporting all of it's oil and then importing oil from other producers. If I am wrong,please provide a reputable link. If you were referring to someone else's post,my apologies.

Posted by: wallyj at June 30, 2008 11:32 PM

Linda L ,

I can't recall where I saw this or who said it ( sorry to the author ) , but regarding revenue neutral taxes he/she wrote .... the only revenue neutral tax is NO TAX ... sums it up pretty well , for me , anyways .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at June 30, 2008 11:46 PM

Alain,you did hear right.It was a harris-decima poll that had a tiny flaw. The question that was asked was,and I am paraphrasing." The liberal party's green shift plan will be revenue neutral,boost the incomes of Canada's poorest,and save the planet. Do you think this is good policy?". Hell yes,we can reach nirvana tonight. The tiny flaw is that it is total BS,but it does sound really,really good.

Posted by: wallyj at June 30, 2008 11:50 PM

wallyj- You do the math.

Oil - production:
3.092 million bbl/day (2005)
Oil - consumption:
2.29 million bbl/day (2005)
Oil - exports:
2.274 million bbl/day (2004)
Oil - imports:
1.185 million bbl/day (2004)

Source:https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/ca.html

We import 70% of our oil consumed and export 74% of our production, as a nation.

Posted by: Quimby at June 30, 2008 11:53 PM

If this was an actual carbon tax, then consumption, not production would be taxed. That would make the most sense because it would be closer to revenue neutral (look at BC Plan.


It isn't- it gives very little to fund the externality (oil bad, must find alternative fuel), instead we get a regionally skewed, distortionary tax and spend policy, introduced when powerful inflationary forces are reawakening, compounded further by some cost of implementation.

Does this sound like a good policy? IMO the theory is somewhat suspect because of inevitable compromise by government, but this is just plain bad implementation.

This dog can't hunt.

Posted by: Shamrock at July 1, 2008 12:00 AM

They say that you can judge a person by the company they keep. If that is true then Garth Turner has been hanging around the loony bin again.

Posted by: Free Thinker at July 1, 2008 12:10 AM

Doan forgedt da wit, da pipples of Sas cat chew on hab more wit dan all da pipples of Keebec an Ont hair ee o.

Posted by: Bernie at July 1, 2008 12:56 AM

Aha,chinese math,I don't quite understand it. Using your figures we export twice as much as we import,2.3 -1.2. So we are a exporting country. We use 2.3 and import 1,2,so we import more than half our oil,so we are an importing country.We produce 3.1,consume 2.3,yet still export 2.3,so we are a pretty slick country.Yet,we produce 3.1,import 1.2,for a total of 4.3,and then we consume 2.3,export 2.3 for a total of 4.6,so at the end of the day we can put 300,000 barrels back into the ground ! I need another drink.

Posted by: wallyj at July 1, 2008 1:24 AM

Yes,it all makes sense now. My above calculations prove that Saskatchewan's rapidly improving economy is due to the surplus oil from Alberta being pumped into the ground and leeching over the border. Take a look at the map,the reserves are all next to the border. Aha,you can't argue those facts.

Posted by: wallyj at July 1, 2008 1:42 AM

I looked at the comments at Garth's blog. Wow. I guess sometimes I forget most people believe that CO2 is pollution. The left seems to love this plan.

Posted by: soup at July 1, 2008 2:35 AM

I took a peek at Garth's blog also. The feeling I get is that most of his supporters are arguing that a carbon tax is a great thing,clean the enviroment,tax the polluters,Harper is Bush,etc. No one seems to comprehend the fact that Dion's shift takes money from the producers and consumers of energy and puts it into places that will do nothing for the enviroment,except that we will all be poorer and stay home in our colder houses a lot more.It is to be expected. Look for Dion and garth to be judging a cbc version of "Dancing with the Stars" in about 5 years.

Posted by: wallyj at July 1, 2008 2:55 AM

Kate, you're an idiot. Most of those commodities you listed are prohibited from dual pricing by our free trade agreements. Even if we have more coal, more oil, more natural gas than most, we can't sell it to ourselves below market rates.

To you and the dolt that called for one price for the west and another for the rest, are you saying you're not a proponent of free trade?!? Gee I guess not. Venezuela shares your logic too I believe. Please go back to school.

Also, while vehicles are obviously a contributor, Toronto is full of smog in part to geography, climate, and pollution from places like Detroit and other major centers in the region. Again, please go back to school. The internet is not a substitute for higher education.

And if I may be so bold to ask... What is psychologically wrong with people like yourself that need to continuously belch and be receive praise day in and day out? Why are you so angry? What kind of void is missing in your life? I heard you on the radio awhile back with some conservative dudes..forget their names..two guys..anyway it sounded like you were positively popping a vein in your forehead when these guys happened to say something you disagreed with. You try and present this non challant laid back attitude, as if nothing gets to you, but I can tell that it does. I can tell that you're flipping out in angry fits when you write half the stuff you do. You have issues, Kate. Seek help. This blog isn't healthy for you.

Posted by: Roger at July 1, 2008 2:55 AM

Holy shite

It appears that we have a long distance psychologist online tonight! The assumptions are awesome, the audacity is breathtaking and the crapulence is beyond reproach.

Good stuff.

Syncro

p.s. you just can't make this shite up.

Posted by: Syncrodox at July 1, 2008 3:23 AM

My word. Talking about issues Roger, haven't you gone a little off you're rocker here?

Posted by: kelly at July 1, 2008 3:51 AM

"...then how come Toronto has all of the smog?"

In today's Brave New World smog is not pollution, neither is radioactive waste, tailing ponds, or littering. The only pollution that exists in the world today is carbon dioxide, at least according to NewThink.

Canadian newspapers are reporting that Alberta and Saskatchewan are the highest "polluting" provinces; while they may be the highest CO2 emitting provinces there is no way Saskatchewan can possibly be as big a polluter as Ontario or Quebec or BC - unless you completely re-invent the meaning of the word pollution to mean CO2 and only CO2.

I'm hardly a treehugger but I don't like the fact that every single other environmental issue has taken a back seat to AGW. The thing is curious. As others have noted, they have taken an issue upon which everyone can agree - a healthy environment - and managed to manufacture a perfectly divisive issue. I've seen this movie before and it is called gay marriage; the plot revolves around a populace obsessed with a single minor issue while much bigger issues, such as free speech, are neglected until it is too late.

Posted by: env at July 1, 2008 5:14 AM

So, Roger, you write an angry, illiterate, factually inaccurate piece, attacking someone with demeaning and condescending language and ask "what kind of void is missing in your life?" ROTFLMAO!

Dude, you've heard us talk about Liberalism as a mental illness... You're apparently an archetypal case (ask your shrink what that means. He probably won't know either, but you two will have fun grinning and giggling about the retarded right together. Then at recess you can go sit on the swing for a bit).

Note the diagnostic trend: a)direct attack b)statement of false dogma c)oblique attack on associate d)condescending command statement d)victimization of the target. This pattern is repeated throughout your comment. (You write like John Daly. Paranoid schizophrenia is also a symptom).

When you get your personality disorder under control, come back and visit us. We'll introduce you to some real nice folk, imbibe a few polysyllabic words and have a great conversation.

Lesson #1: there is no such thing as "free trade". Doesn't matter what the treaty says.

Lesson number #2: We don't get nearly as much smog from the US as you'd like to believe. We get it mostly because of our size. But that's irrelevant in any case, because the fact that we have so much of it here is a case for shutting down Toronto, not the west...

Lesson #3: Unrestrained faux psychoanalytic projection is a warning sign for liberalosis (see diagnostic trend above), a treatable, but not necessarily curable, disease requiring significant intervention.

Lesson #4: The internet is, in fact, a substitute for higher learning. It can be and often is, an excellent source for "continuing education" for those who paid attention the first time (critical requirement). No CV credits though for the terminally anal.

Lesson#5: The squiggly red line under a word means you spelled it wrong. "Non challant" is spelled "nonchalant" Jig's up, bud. You're a dufus.

...

Now, what I was going to comment on, Kate, is the one major weakness for Saskabush: #4

Posted by: Skip at July 1, 2008 9:13 AM

In Ontario we have this scam called Ontario Drive Clean Program that is testing car emissions for everything but sulphur dioxide. This brownish haze over Toronto is a cloud made mostly of sulphuric acid.

Posted by: Karol Karolak at July 1, 2008 9:18 AM

"I've seen this movie before and it is called gay marriage; the plot revolves around a populace obsessed with a single minor issue while much bigger issues, such as free speech, are neglected until it is too late."

In ethological circles, this is called a displacement activity, a ritualistic physical response when no other action is attainable. No doubt has an analogue in the miasma known as human psychology.

Mayor Miller (Toronto) demonstrates this behavior on a consistent basis (the anger is a clue); hence his pathological focus on handguns and legitimate handgun owners. It is a pathological syndrome, and for someone in Miller's position, may have socio-pathological consequences. Stephane doesn't show it. He appears to be simply dumb.

Posted by: Skip at July 1, 2008 9:23 AM

"Now, what I was going to comment on, Kate, is the one major weakness for Saskabush: #4..."

Somehow the end of this got chopped off....

..Your population density of

Posted by: Skip at July 1, 2008 9:27 AM

ARRRGGH! the response generator doesn't like the left arrow symbol when used for "less than"...

Last time... Your population density of less than 2 per km isn't sufficient cannon fodder to prevent the eastern infidels when they come for your resources and your rights.

Posted by: Skip at July 1, 2008 9:33 AM

EXCELLENT post! I laughed so hard! In this day of pandering and political correctness, what a refreshing breath of carbon emissions. I wonder if Dion will think of taxing overweight people because they breathe heavier?

Posted by: Phil at July 1, 2008 10:41 AM

Yeah but Skip the eastern infidels would have to find the resources once they got here and most lefties couldn't find their butt sitting on both hands.

Posted by: Joe at July 1, 2008 11:13 AM


It isn't my smog in Toronto, it's theirs.

well they paid for that smog, they own it. But that can't be the only reason the Leafs suck.

I'm not worried that Mr.Dion and his ilk will seize leadership someday and bring this "plan" to fruition... I believe there's sufficient anger in the west (still) that if such a plan was implemented, the ball would really be set in motion for a western separatist party. So on the day formerly known as Dominion Day, I advocate in my own demented way, (and seriously, only for today!) the ascension of S.Dion as P.M. du Canada.

maybe after this all blows over, as the west rises again, perhaps as an enlarged "Cascadia" ... with anywhere but Calgary as its capital... with a small republican government, low taxes, property rights, an effective free speech law, no special interest groups with dedicated special interest laws only for them, a couple of really big f*ckin' prisons for those that deserve it, and a judicial system not afraid to fill it, maybe then we'll have "Dominion of Cascadia Day" or days... June 30 - July 1

only S.Dion, can save the west, from Canada. Did you read it here first?

Posted by: marc in calgary at July 1, 2008 12:22 PM

"Yeah but Skip the eastern infidels would have to find the resources once they got here and most lefties couldn't find their butt sitting on both hands."

Nah, they'll just require you to register them...:)"

Posted by: Skip at July 1, 2008 12:31 PM

I do believe the liberals negotiated a clause with the U.S. in our free trade agreement, that the U.S. had full access to our oil and gas AT THE SAME PRICE AS cANADA PAYS. At the time I felt it was the same thing as saying any oil and gas in Canada were actualy as good as being on U.S. soil.
Please tell me that I was mistaken and that we can give or withhold our production and that we can charge what we want.

Posted by: neil thompson at July 1, 2008 12:48 PM

Roger-- Its all about getting dialogue and conversation going about topics the MSM wont touch. It's the new way and its a free country, no need to be a jerk.

Posted by: bob at July 1, 2008 1:34 PM

I wonder when I'll be called a blue eyed sheik again by the msm to vilafi me in Toronto?

Posted by: royalist at July 1, 2008 2:29 PM

"Floats on lakes of oil..."

Such poetry! Such beautiful imagery! As soon as I stop sniffling from the emotional toll those words took on me, I'll...remember what the hell it was I was trying to say.

Posted by: tree hugging sister at July 1, 2008 2:44 PM

Priceless Kate! Saskatchewan, Priceless!

Posted by: Gunney99 at July 1, 2008 3:14 PM

Saskatchewan -- We have a population density of well under 2 persons per square km.

Your smog must be coming from moose flatulence!

Posted by: Orlin at July 1, 2008 3:24 PM

Well, a few points:

Roger, there is such a thing as a domestic fuel price. It's called a gasoline tax and among the various levies it amounts to more than a third of the price. Governments have no control over the world oil price; they have enormous control over the retail price of gasoline and diesel fuel.

Second, about Garth's blog, he was a former director of Sierra Legal Defense Fund. Nothing more need be said about the relevance of any opinions he might have.

Three, Kate your remark about nuclear power was simply idiotic. Do you actually think it stinks?

Posted by: cgh at July 1, 2008 4:39 PM

Saskatchewan has the best uranium deposits in the world. If the greens want a cleaner environment then why do we not exploit what we have in Canada instead of try to come up with new wealth distribution socialist schemes. Nuclear produces no Co2.

Posted by: Kevin at July 1, 2008 5:05 PM

Kate, I am pretty sure on top of all that, you have most of the grain too.

Posted by: kingston at July 1, 2008 5:25 PM

One big blight on Saskatchewan is Ralphy Goodale.
by the look of his hair he must be dipping into the Lakes of oil.

Posted by: Liz J at July 1, 2008 6:12 PM

Remember, the green shit... err shift will be tough on Saskatchewan and Alberta but universities will flourish so those roughnecks can get an university education and... do what exactly???

When will those academic dipwads realize that you don't have to be a university grad to have a skill set or trade that is of use to the economy of Canada? Real tradespeople are in short supply across the country and it isn't going to get any better.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at July 1, 2008 6:40 PM

Zazkejwan haved da wit, hoal, podhatch hant gats bud nonebuddy wid brine. Da grinchiff gived brine ant free moneys ant taked dat stuff voar huntrio ant kaybec liprls.

Posted by: steffie at July 1, 2008 8:39 PM

Re Texas Canuck
...so those roughnecks can get an university education and... do what exactly???

That massive university education didn't do much for the French Leader of the LOYAL Opposition, did it!

Perhaps if he knew just a little bit more he might just realize how much he DID NOT KNOW.

Perhaps not.

CRB

Posted by: CRB at July 1, 2008 11:16 PM

Roger just isn't very smart.

I'd be hanging my head in shame if I was a stupid as he is.

First off, although some smog is from the US, your anti-US crap doesn't change the existence of those coal-fired generators that your buddy McShify promised to close down - three times now.

Your little fantasy also doesn't consider that central Canada (and that's where Ontario is in case you didn't know,) is the manufacturing heart of the country where most of the heavy industry is.

You ever been through Hamilton? Sudbury? Windsor?

Alberta and SK is where the bulk of the energy is generated but shouldn't it be the end-user which is blamed for the emissions? That would be California -Ontario gets it's oil from the ME because it's cheaper to use ships than build a pipeline. (A fact that should also be remembered by the western chauvinists who think they have the power to cut the east off.)

Roger, should go and slap your mother for not teaching you to shut up when you don't know jack - which is most of the time.

Posted by: Warwick at July 2, 2008 2:10 PM

Kevin, nuclear does produce trace amounts of CO2 on a life cycle basis. For the record, here they are:
Coal: 975 g/kWh
LNG Thermal: 608 g
LNG Combined Cycle: 519 g
Solar PV: 53 g
Wind: 29 g
Nuclear: 22 g
Hydro-electric: 19 g

This was done by the Central Research Institute for the Electric Power Industry in Japan. In Canada, the coal and nuclear numbers would be lower (shorter distance for coal, and no fuel enrichment for nuclear) and the LNG number would likely be higher, given longer transport distances. Life cycle here means all costs including construction, fuel production and transport, operation, and decommissioning. It's worth noting that in Japan, wind and solar result in more CO2 that does nuclear. This does not include the need for backup power for the renewables which would only add to their CO2 burden. In the case of hydro, it does not include methane emissions from reservoirs, only their raw construction costs.

Your central point however is entirely true, and these are the numbers to back you up.

Posted by: cgh at July 2, 2008 3:02 PM
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