And back up at Liveleak;
On the 28th of March LiveLeak.com was left with no other choice but to remove the film “fitna” from our servers following serious threats to our staff and their families. Since that time we have worked constantly on upgrading all security measures thus offering better protection for our staff and families. With these measures in place we have decided to once more make this video live on our site. We will not be pressured into censoring material which is legal and within our rules. We apologise for the removal and the delay in getting it back, but when you run a website you don’t consider that some people would be insecure enough to threaten our lives simply because they do not like the content of a video we neither produced nor endorsed but merely hosted.
Nick Packwood says this is the way to do it. Agreed.
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Congratulations Kate for your courage,honour and responsibility to your craft, vocation, culture and country. Thank you.
Nicely done, LiveLeak. Correct response to these kinds of things is armor up first and -then- spit in their eye.
I’ve always been fond of hitting them when they’re still mouthing off with their hands in their pockets, too. “Blah blah I KEEL YOU! blah blah” [crunch!] [fall] “Ow. Dang!”
Be interesting to see who the British cops charge, the death threateners or LiveLeak. I know where my money’s betting.
They will be hiding behind women when they attack you can bet. As they move here in droves to destroy the evil empire but enjoy all the fruits of our labor, possibly they could remember why they left their rat infested raw sewer in the streets places and just live and work in peace like we mostly do. Most of us never notice the color or religion of anyone until they blow something up for their religion. But now we will have the usual pack of moronic jonnyringos and anons screaming like a girly in Prom Nite that it is a peacful religion.
Interesting interview with the film’s Geert Wilders, the Dutch politician who made the film, at
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d26_1206135902
Near the end, the interviewer suggests that freedom of expression should be limited if people are going to react violently to it. Wilders stands his ground.
Good on LiveLeak.
It’s truly unbelievable that this 15 minute film that does nothing more or less than expose some verses (certainly not the worst) in the Quran and the horrendous modern results of fanatics precisely following these commands. This, as well as exposing their religious ‘scholars and leaders’ using these very same verses to incite outright mass-murder, racism and bigotry against non-Muslims.
For this, Fitna is deemed ‘hate’ from every weak-kneed dhimmi leader in the west, as well as the UN and Russia.
All this, while the film’s topic – the true ideology of hate – is defended and its votaries fauned over.
What makes it even more unbelievable is these very same dhimmi leaders and their cowardly followers ignoring the death threats to anybody that had anything to do with the creation and distribution of this film. Which in fact, proves the films point.
Cowards, hypocrites and chalatans all. They should be ashamed of themselves.
Pat Condell’s latest re: Fitna.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3_qelW5qp4
The unmasked haters, and too small fraction of them, in Fitna are the Islamic fascists themselves by their own words and deeds. Since Fitna lacks the nuance and a chattering moral equivalence guide so lefty dhimmis can process it, Wilders has enraged them.
I’m still curious as to what part of the British MSM compromised the LiveLeak staff when they originally took it down.
If the Death Cult had to stand up to a “Fitna” a day, the west would be a safer place because bullies are very selective in the victims they pick.
Every time Muslims succeed in silencing our opinions, videos or the media we should hang our heads in shame. We are not governed by Sharia Law, it’s only a crime if we were governed by Sharia Law to insult the Prophet (pea soup reign down apon him). I suggest we in the West stay on our current path and if critizism of Islam offends the Moderates that’s not my fault it’s their problem. I will not allow Radical Islamist or political Islamist to silence me, nor will the HRC be allowed to silence those that speak out against Seven Century Islam.
Europe should be ashamed of self censoring themselves lest they offend Islam, to allow Islam to silence you with threats of VIOLENCE is to succumb to Sharia Law. They are winning every major challenge in the West and Eurabia because the left are happy to whimper and simper our rights away under the guise of “Diversity”. There is nothing diverse about Islam, it’s stuck in the middle ages and I have no desire to be governed or controled by barbarians.
Will Ban Ki-Moon and Louise Arbour condemn this film (linked below)? Will CAIR?, will CAIR-CAN?, Will Mohammad Elmasry? Will the Osgood Hall Muslims? Will Syed Soharwardy? Will any of them?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020516.php
LiveLeak. Corporate Citizen of the Year. Steer all the business you can to them. LiveLeak da, YouTube nyet.
One wonders: Is there more of an immediate, personal threat from a bombified, red, crescent moon and star, or from a desecrated, islamified, red, maple leaf?
IOW, a bomb or a sword is quick. CHRC thuggery is torture that slowly removes everything you’ve got before it tries to remove who you are.
And, live leak be upon him — and them!
Bankimoon already did condemn Wilders and the Film Fitna …. UN HRC is up in arms and wants wilders charged … movie banned!
It is shocking how cowed people get by the threat of violence from representatives of the Islamic religion. At some point civilization must stand up and be coumted and condemn this hatred and, if necessary(God willing), fight fire with fire, everywhere.
Hurrah!
LiveLeak will pay the price for their lack of vision.
MT:
Interesting sounding initials … were you looking at your head at the time?
I love you SYT. So let us conjure up the spirit of Gaia and turn off the lights for one sexy hour.
Gaia this, you creep!
http://www.themoviefitna.com/
“Fitna movie’s (2nd) official Website Hacked by Cyber Terrorists
After being censored by Network Solutions, Geert Wilder’s film Fitna, trouncing Islamism using their own words, found a home with WordPress.com. Unfortunately as of 3/31/08 that new website http://www.themoviefitna.com/ is now being hacked by Saudi bona fide cyber terrorists.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1994725/posts
“LiveLeak will pay the price for their lack of vision.” Posted by: Muslim Troll
The CHRC on duty tonight?.
Rose I share your sentiment, but I think that women in our great country and the US collectively have dropped the ball. If you look at the electoral break down, people who vote left of center(appeasers) tend to be women, you can look at the breakdown of voters in Ontario to see this. Women also vote Democrat in much larger #’s than they do for the GOP.
I often hear a call for moderate Muslims to come out and publicly disavow actions of Islamic extremists (yet they do not). It is my opinion and call to women of the western world to do the same. Women must start calling these other women out and take them to task on these issues. Women count over 50% of the electorate and must start taking some responsibility for the results of their overwhelming amount of political clout.
Sounder,
EXACTLY. From this day forward, every time some hate-spewing creep shows up on a blog, it will be assumed that they work for the CHRC.
The CHRC’s actions have had a splendid unintended consequence. Legitimate (?) trolls are now lumped together with CHRC drones and dismissed, laughter echoing in their empty heads for the rest of their barren, ridiculous lives.
Good for them! The time for intolerance for the whackjobs depicted in that short film has surely come.
The pieces are falling into place. Is this Canada’s year for Al Qaeda sponsored infamy? What will our citizens think of Gert’s short film visual summary of the Religion of Peace if we find out it is?
What a crock.
The Qu’ran advocates violence? Islam is a violent religion?
And yet, these books were #1 best sellers: Left Behind: Jesus and Jihad . I thought that this was somewhat thought-provoking:
If a Muslim were to write an Islamic version of “Glorious Appearing” and publish it in Saudi Arabia, jubilantly describing a massacre of millions of non-Muslims by God, we would have a fit. We have quite properly linked the fundamentalist religious tracts of Islam with the intolerance they nurture, and it’s time to remove the motes from our own eyes.
In “Glorious Appearing,” Jesus merely speaks and the bodies of the enemy are ripped open. Christians have to drive carefully to avoid “hitting splayed and filleted bodies of men and women and horses.”
“The riders not thrown,” the novel continues, “leaped from their horses and tried to control them with the reins, but even as they struggled, their own flesh dissolved, their eyes melted and their tongues disintegrated. . . . Seconds later the same plague afflicted the horses, their flesh and eyes and tongues melting away, leaving grotesque skeletons standing, before they, too, rattled to the pavement.”
Oh yeah, we’re all sunshine and lollipops over here.
Hypocrites.
And please SPARE me the “OMFG WHY DO YOU WANT TO CUT PEOPLE’S HEADS OFF AND LET ISLAMOFACISTS TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY AND AREN’T YOU AFRAID EVERY DAY AND-AND-EUROPE OVERRUN WITH MUSLIMS AND SHARIA LAW AND AND AND AND ….”
I think Anon used to post at the Western Standard under another “handle”. Capitalised the postings, too.
My understanding is that the Qu’ran is believed to be the literal word of God, whereas Left Behind is a work of fiction.
This may explain why I have seen so many grievous acts carried out while citing the Qu’ran (such as videotaped beheadings, in which the Qu’ran is hoisted authoratatively), and so few carried out while citing Left Behind.
Most shocking of all, is that I was able to enter both of the above paragraphs without using the Casp Lock facility of my keyboard. Must be something to do with blood pressure. What, has rage become Islam’s shadow? If I didn’t know better, I would say a good measure of sexual frustration thrown in there too. Having that alpha male down the street scoop up four good women can do that, is what I hear.
whereas Left Behind is a work of fiction
Bullsh*t…it’s not fiction to an incredible proportion of the fan base. That story is as real as it comes to them. Weirdos.
and so few carried out while citing Left Behind
Because the majority religion in the most powerful, wealthy and individually empowered country in the world certainly has a need to resort to violence.
without using the Casp Lock facility of my keyboard
Good for you, because you weren’t trying to mimic foaming-at-the-mouth yelling, like I was. Given the persona you assumed in your post, had you used all caps, you might have appeared to be a wee bit off-kilter. But thanks for pointing it out and all.
I just want to be sure, anon. It is tolerance you are advocating? I mean, not your average garden-variety tolerance, but rather that best, and exceedingly rare foamy-at-the-mouth kind of tolerance?
Touche, Shaken. Touche.
The short answer is: I offer tolerant a ear – with as little pre-judgement as I can consciously muster – for reasonable points of view, with a recognition and respect for nuance, under circumstances where good faith is assumed.
Unfortunately, there is no assumption of good faith here, nuance went the way of the dodo, and reasonable followed shortly after it. So I mostly come here to do what everyone else does: rant and poke people in the eye. Most visitors here do it towards the left, I just go the other way. It’s for sh*ts and giggles only. This is only a bloody *blog* after all.
So far, you’ve been pretty enjoyable to speak to. I suspect that’s because the regulars are gone to bed.
Told you that limp dick anon would lose it.
bartinsky: Poor choice of ad hominem. Conservatives suck in the bedroom. Boring as all hell. Except, of course, when they’re banging a gay prostitute while high on meth, or congressional pages in their office, or hitting on guys in airport bathrooms. Those little gay side jobs seem to be where they really let themselves go.
“Oh yeah, we’re all sunshine and lollipops over here.”
It is my understanding that the massacre of unbelievers by God, as described in “Glorious Appearing”, is done by Jesus, and therefore by God, after people refuse to believe in him. His followers are asked merely to survive the tribulation and not get involved.
The Qu’ran appears to be asking the Islamic followers to commit these atrocities themselves, and right now. So the taint of murder is on these people themselves.
I think I prefer our version of Sunshine and Lollipops.
About the 54,000,000 Islamics in the Netherlands:
Could this swell of Islamic immigrants (54X in 4 years!!) be a wave of people escaping an inevitable war they don’t believe in? As a Christian, I am surprised at some of the passages in the Bible, such as the ones calling for the deaths of homosexuals, that don’t seem to fit the overall message of the Bible. So I ignore them, or interpret them away. And so does my Church (The ELCIC). So does any other main stream church that I know of. I have never been told at any church I have ever attended that certain people need to die by my hand. And I am certain I never will be told this.
So, using myself and my beliefs as an example,are the images presented in this video representative of the beliefs of a majority or a small minority of Islamic people? This is an important question to answer before most of the Islamic people are painted with the brush of Jihad.
Okay, I realize it was late when the last bunch of spittle was spewed by a troll but to even argue that “Glorious Appearing”, a book written by mere mortals only a few years back, is on the same footing as the Bible or Koran is pure koolaid.
‘anon’ had to look high and wide for a work of fiction to do what? Prove a point? What point?
“Bullsh*t…it’s not fiction to an incredible proportion of the fan base. That story is as real as it comes to them. Weirdos.”
Really? That’s quite an assertion. Now you have to prove it.
Wait a second, anon is a leftard, they don’t deal with facts. Facts are inconvenient.
The fact is that the Quran, to every Muslim is the uncreated and unmitigated word of Allah. They are to honour and act on every word. However, the Quran and supporting texts are foundationally violent. This is the problem that Fitna proves in content and murderous Muslim revenge for making and distributing the film.
Unlike Islam, Christianity based on the same measure – the texts and Christ’s life example – are not foundationally violent.
So, of course, small minded dweebs like ‘anon’ have to make things up. Proving nothing other than he/she/it is a small minded and extremely bigoted dweeb of no importance.
Jon wrote: . Women count over 50% of the electorate and must start taking some responsibility for the results of their overwhelming amount of political clout.
I concur with your entire post, and yes women vote liberal generally. Sadly female liberals are feminist and their priorities are skewed, they opine on the “Glass ceiling” whilst ignoring the REAL horrors that befell women today. These women don’t seem to care about honour killings, enforced marrages, sexual mutilation, domestic abuse mandated by the koran, the females on the liberal left are not in touch with reality. They are twenty years behind on societial issues, I’d rather they stayed in the past because their silence on the global abuse of females and children tells me all I need to know about their lack of morality and skewed ideology. Let them gaze upon the glass ceiling, whilst the women on the right actually make a difference in society. Our voice hasn’t been heard or ignored by the Feds, we need to change that.
I think it is important to identify the threat senders and expose them.
Rose, the feminists have had at hand a very simple, and highly effective way to skew the population, and thus bring to fruition their particular utopia: simply prefer to abort males rather than females.
In two generations, any male domination issues are flattened.
Not sure how many grants you can get out of that strategy today, but, it would provide women all the clout they need later.
anon: senior CHRC provocateur or troll? Who cares? What’s the diff?
I have said to my wife before “I am glad we only have daughters, It is a womans world now and I don’t envy any boys born at this time.” I concur with Shakens post, there will be no justification for men in the future; therefore they will simply cease to exist.
So someone releases a film, which equates the Muslim religion with extremism and Violence, Muslims everywhere are so offended by the comparison that they threaten the creator’s of the film and anyone associated with hosting the film with extremism and Violence …
Okay, I realize it was late when the last bunch of spittle was spewed by a troll but to even argue that “Glorious Appearing”, a book written by mere mortals only a few years back, is on the same footing as the Bible or Koran is pure koolaid.
Posted by: Texas Canuck
Nicely put. This is nonsense talk over a book of fiction.
Anon & his ilk must worry about the legitimacy of magic spells in Harry Potter books, if they go by fiction books.
This is one guys interpretation of the book of Revelation & other scriptures. As for his coming, even with the date given in Daniel we (humans) still got His first coming including His mission the first time around wrong. What hubris thinks we will get it right the Second times he does?
Besides which its doesn’t make a bit of difference in the end. Our last day could be any day. No one gets up thinking its their last day on the orb before one’s demise.