The Misogynisphere

Right Wing News has a piece up on the abuse that is regularly levelled at female bloggers in the US.
For an insight into the phenomenon, check out the comments at Right Girl. (Language warning).
“Witch”, “bitch”, “c*nt”. “You need to get laid.”
The explanation is pretty simple, really – scratch a progressive, and you’ll find a misogynist. For all their faux support for a woman’s right to self-determination , they have zero tolerance for those “bitches” who refuse to think and behave precisely as they’re expected to.

155 Replies to “The Misogynisphere”

  1. Greg: re your comments on brown sugar.
    I think I mentioned to you I live in PA. I do not know if I mentioned I have lived in Houston and also LA (er, that’s Lower Alabama).
    However, your comments are probably as helpful to some here as were the comments I received from locals during my time in both TX and the South. 🙂

  2. Richard why do you bother spending good money on an irrelevance like cc. Do some good and give the money to Ezra to defend himself against the enemies of freedom.
    Besides it is cc’s job to drive hits to my blog.

  3. Err, well … I figure that anyone that suggests that someone else “needs to be laid” needs to be laid.
    Kate needs to be laid.

  4. Richard why do you bother spending good money on an irrelevance like cc. Do some good and give the money to Ezra to defend himself against the enemies of freedom.
    Ezra’s distracted and hasn’t yet earned the donation I have for him…

  5. well, Kelly
    If you think racism and homophobia are in fact rational and logical beliefs, why not tell us why and how you think they are?
    Please, go ahead. I’m sure if you get stuck many of the other posters here will lend you assistance.

  6. WOW – generalize much? You may as well ask Do you agree with Pedophilia? or Do you agree with killing cops?
    Do you think people who are racists or homophobes are smart?
    That is a very simple question for an unbelievably complex subject, but i will do my best…
    Simple answer – No
    Now for my Not So Simple Answer – Please Define Racist and Homophobe.
    I’ll provide a few scenarios off the top of my head…
    Is one who posts on a “White Power” hate site promoting the extermination of an entire race, a racist? Yes
    Is one who believes that (to paraphrase) – White Western based society should go forth and multiply to sustain our culture, economy and general quality of life and freedoms – is a racist? No
    Is an Aboriginal Chief who bluntly tells my relative in the RCMP that the reason he “does not discourage” teen pregnancy is due to increased band income and someday a majority vote to rid Saskatchewan of “Whitey”, a racist? Yes
    Do i support a Muslim Cleric who encourages procreation within his faithful, but for the admittedly sole purpose of global domination in the name of their religion? No
    Does that make me a “racist” in your mind?
    Do i think that one who wishes for the death, torture and/or destruction of all those who hold different political beliefs than themselves any more morally superior to a Racist or Homophobe? NO
    Do i think those that stereotype people who visit a website that holds different beliefs than themselves, as “knuckledraggers” or refer to their perceived enemies as “c**ts” or “stupid” or “c**ksuckers” or “crazy muffburgers” or “self-fellating” are just as bad as any racist? Big Fat Yes
    Does that answer make me a fatophobe to you, volik?
    Now to your next offensive term dujour – Homophobia… sigh
    Do i want homosexuals parading down my street naked or in leather buttless chaps on a Sunny Afternoon (as is well documented)? No
    Do i want HETEROsexuals (or “breeders” as heterophobes call them) parading down my street naked or in leather buttless chaps on a Sunny Afternoon (as is NOT well documented)? No
    Do i fear homosexuals or have i discriminated against them? No
    Do i believe Homosexuals have existed in our society for ages with little to no detrimental impact on the majority of our lives? Yes
    Would i honestly be disappointed if either of my children turned out Homosexual? Yes
    Would i get over it and realise a happy, successful, fulfilling life for them is far FAR more important to me than their sexual orientation? Yes
    Define what a “Homophobe” is in your world, volik.
    Am I a Homophobe in your eyes?
    Hate is Hate, volik. This thread was about how some folks promote themselves as the “progressive, tolerant and logical” community, yet time after time are vulgar and disrespectful of those they claim to represent. They hurl derogatory terms usually applied to the very people they pretend to defend, at anyone who holds a different political perspective from themselves.
    I note that this website is very successful, and not so coincidentally of note, there is very little vulgar language used by the author. A quick perusal of many less successful sites (and in my opinion – more left leaning than right) will show that the subjective posts stirring discussion are of far less civilized language than here. Perhaps that is what turns civilized moderates away from those sites.
    It is unfortunate that on occasion i see some pretty extreme comments here as well, but you don’t have to read the “clientele”‘s commentary if you don’t want to. If you find it offensive, walk away. I disagree with much of it and often choose not to read any further. Why would i do that to myself? Why do you do it, volik? Are you not happy with your personal situation? Do you feel you must attempt to belittle others to make yourself feel better? What gives? When you see a bad movie do you return again and again to tell people in line how bad it was? Over and over and over again you guys come here to expunge hatred towards your “enemies”. Does that make your thoughts any superior or more intelligent than the hate you claim to see on this site that offends you so much? I do find it very telling that disagreeable and offensive comments directed at Kate (or KKKate as some like to insinuate) or her readership are left intact for all to see. Far more tolerant than the less frequented sites are with dissension and debate i must say.
    I come here mostly as a lurker for a sample of information i may not find at many News sites. I also visit many others that would be considered politically neutral by many and perhaps left leaning by others. I am willing to bet that the vast majority of the readership here are mostly silent and somewhat moderate, and yet you utter misgivings simply due to guilt by association. In your mind, the association is to one who you think is guilty of the horrible terms you ascribe to her. I disagree with your personal assessment of Kate and the majority of her readers. You are certainly free to your opinions, just realize that they are only that – opinions and not FACT
    Keep your pending “religious right” diatribe to yourself – i am more of a FSM fan to be honest.
    ALL: my apologies for the length and horrible formatting – another reason i don’t post often 😛

  7. Who cares, Bryan?
    This thread, as you say, was about Kate’s idiotic post which stated “scratch a progressive and you’ll find a misogynist”.
    It follows the theme of her earlier post: “scratch a progressive and you’ll find an anti-semite”.
    She makes two postings which have no other purpose than to declare that all progressives are anti-semitic and misogynists and you clowns have the gall to lecture me about civility and “generalizing”. Talk about “painting with a wide brush!”
    It is laughable that you assume this holier than thou attitude when these are comments on a post intended to smear an entire group of people. You talk to me about people being abusive to their perceived “enemies” being as bad aas any racist. By your own logic, Kate fits this bill.
    Bryan, I couldn’t care less about your various hypotheses and justifications for your dismally outmoded way of thought. They’re all tired and lame and I’ve heard them a million times before. A racist is a racist. A homophobe is a homophobe. We all know what they are. There’s really no need for discussion.
    But while you’re attributing my objection to the racism and homophobia here to my “unhappy personal situation” you might want to give some thought to the obviously beleaguered one who’s posted that all progressives are anti-semitic, all progressives are misogynists, and Bill Clinton is responsible for 9/11 in the past few days.

  8. “You need to get laid”
    Doesn’t that describe… umm… pretty much everybody? Not continuously, mind you. However, if it didn’t happen at all then there wouldn’t be future generations, would there?
    Volik. Volik, volik, volik. How is it a smear to state a plain fact? Have you ever heard the phrase “not anti-war, just on the other side”? Because if you look on the “progressive” position on just about any substantive topic, you’ll find that the progressives are in fact on the other side.
    Radical Islam (which I am sure you’ll agree is misogyistic) vs. America: progressives are on the side of radical Islam.
    Abortion: progressives are in favour of killing innocent babies.
    Capital Punishment: progressives are against killing murderers.
    The Economy: progressives are against allowing the productive members of society to keep what they earn, and instead insist that the productive must be enslaved to the non-productive.
    Israel vs. Palestine: progressives are on the side of the suicide bombers and those who lob rockets into civilian populations.
    Freedom of speech: just try exercising it on a college campus. One guess as to who are running the colleges today (hint: conservatives have real jobs).
    Name a substantive issue, and I will guarantee you that so-called progressives are demonstrably on the wrong side of the issue.

  9. Volik asks: “Do you think people who are racists or homophobes are smart?”
    Bryan, you rightly point out how loaded such epithets are. “Homophobe”, in particular, is a word which has lost any useful meaning. It is properly a phychiatric term describing a man suffering from a very rare and twisted pathology involving a profound insecurity about his own sexuality which manifests in violent compulsions towards men who are gay or percieved to be gay. It really shouldn’t stand for “anyone who favours civil union legislation over gay marriage” or “someone who is uncomfortable with first-graders being read to from books called ‘Janey’s two mommies'” or whatever the latest thing is.
    Kidnapping language to shut down debate is bad. Worse, and profoundly connected, is the use of bullying to disable honest thought(political correctness is name-calling and it rots the brain). Racists and “homophobes” may well be bad people, that may be a fair blanket statement, but smart? Some of them are smart. Evelyn Waugh was a reactionary Catholic and kind of a racist (it fit in with his general misanthropy). Was he dumb? Was Maimonides stupid (look up what he had to say about Africans)? T.S. Eliot was a bigot, and Thomas Jefferson was a racist slave-owner. Arthur Koestler was probably a serial rapist. Were these men idiots?
    The question is, is language important, and is clarity in language necessary for coherent thought?
    And to keep a little more resolutely on topic, well, calling women c***s is bad form, to say the least. Would a hero like Canadian Cynic use the word n****r to describe a black blogger with whom he disagreed? Of course not. He knows where the real taboo lines are drawn. Poor old Warren Kinsella has a problem with women, an obsession with Kate, and wierd ideas about pet owning. I’m sure the man believes that he’s a feminist of the highest order.

  10. Bryan: Do i want HETEROsexuals (or “breeders” as heterophobes call them) parading down my street naked or in leather buttless chaps on a Sunny Afternoon (as is NOT well documented)? No
    Actually, the heteronormative nature of our society CAN be readily documented. You need only to open your eyes: images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=%22sex+in+advertising%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi.

  11. Ed Minchau: Name a substantive issue, and I will guarantee you that so-called progressives are demonstrably on the wrong side of the issue.
    Cheap and boring. It’s a circular argument to randomly define “the wrong side of the issue” as “the other side,” and then “discover”–surprise, surprise–that those with opinions different from your own are on the wrong side after all.

  12. Kate: “Scratch a progressive and you’ll find a misogynist.”
    I find it rather ironic that the above turn of phrase gets a general pass on a thread about the callous and hypocritical use of intolerant language to buttress one’s own weak argument.
    I see no significant difference, either in intent or effect, between claiming the above and hurling petty profanities, ad hominems, insults, etc. — all are desperate attempts to distract from the substantive debate.
    Do ‘lefties’ do it? Sure, some of them, some of the time. And they are poorer for it.
    Do ‘righties’ do it? Well, now, you tell me. Who here is willing to break ranks and criticize ‘right-wing’ bloggers by the same standard that they criticize those on the ‘left’?

  13. Catching a high profile “progressive” hurling misogynist or homophobic insults is equivalent to catching a TV evangelist getting caught with a hooker.

  14. I. Sanderson, nice straw man. Who presents themselves as the champions of women and gays? The Left. Who defaults to c*nt and F*g in almost any discussion about anything? The Left.
    Furthermore, whose “peaceful demonstrations” almost invariably erupt in violence? The Left.
    Scratch a progressive and you’ll find a hate-filled stink bomb looking for a place to go off.
    And lets talk issues for a second.
    Self defence? Lefties are against it.
    Private property? Lefties are against it. Freedom of speech? Lefties are against it.
    There’s three for you. I can make a longer list if you want.

  15. At the risk of generalizing, I am reminded of one of the most telling observations I have read, and can’t recall who wrote.
    The difference in discourse between the Right and the Left:
    “Those on the right think the left are wrong; those on the Left HATE the right”
    The vile and emotional personal attacks on female conservative bloggers seems to be merely a manifestation of this unfortunate truism.

  16. You’d think that everyone would know enough to ignore halfwits like Volik.
    There is zero utility trying to debate with the incapable. It’s like trying to teach multi-variable calculus to a newborn.
    As for McClellend the jew hater, this is the same guy who admitted to spray painting “fck the Jews” on someone else’s property. Anything to say about that Volik? Fricken morons the both of you.

  17. Wow! What a stimulating debate!
    It all boils down to Kate, queen of the apes, stating: “all progressives are anti-semitic misogynists!”
    And her chorus of apes all leaping up and down, swinging their over-long arms, bellowing as spittle flies from their lips: “Yes! All progressives bad! baby-killers, anti-free speech, suicide bombers!”
    Come to think of it, that’s all that goes on at this site. Scroll down and you’ll find Kate’s penetrating criticisms of scientists, environmentalists progressives, and her chorus of apes bellowing “Yes Kate! They’re all bad! Bad!”
    What a service Kate provides for you all!
    Tell me: was it really so bad for you guys when you were kids? Were you really all picked on that much?

  18. Who cares, Bryan?
    Well that was a fine discussion. I afforded you the respect of at least trying to answer your questions, volik. Why do you not feel it necessary to extend the same courtesy? You are the one who brought it up.
    It is laughable that you assume this holier than thou attitude…
    There it is!!! Religious connotations, what a surprise! Where did I suggest I am “holier than thou”? Believe it or not, it is possible to hold relatively conservative values without being a Christian. I already told you i am more of a Flying Spaghetti Monster man, myself.
    …and you clowns have the gall to lecture me… – Who is the one behaving “holier than thou”?!
    I couldn’t care less about your various hypotheses and justifications for your dismally outmoded way of thought. They’re all tired and lame and I’ve heard them a million times before. A racist is a racist. A homophobe is a homophobe. We all know what they are. There’s really no need for discussion.
    So then why ask me?!?! Why did you not even attempt to answer a single one of my queries? Are your ideas and beliefs the righteous and true ones? Funny, i don’t remember even suggesting that mine were. They are simply my beliefs. If you have heard them a million times before then perhaps it is YOU that is wrong while everyone else is actually right…perhaps…
    you might want to give some thought to the obviously beleaguered one who’s posted that all progressives are anti-semitic, all progressives are misogynists, and Bill Clinton is responsible for 9/11 in the past few days.
    I already told you i don’t agree with some of the things i read here. I don’t even know what the whole Bill Clinton thing is you are talking about! If i don’t agree, i move on. I don’t lash out and behave “holier than thou”. I have never posted a single thought on someone else’s website that I disagree with, I simply read to try to understand their perspective. Once again i suggest you do the same.
    Not once did i suggest that ALL left-leaning are vile and hateful. Many of my closest friends are staunch NDP supporters (my father included) and yet we manage to have civilized discussion, sometimes even agree on things political. What is so hard to understand about this? Because some on the right side of the spectrum behave in a certain manner, YOU have chosen to paint us all with one stroke.
    I am really beginning to wonder whether you even read my post, volik.
    You never addressed a single issue that I raised.
    I am going to assume you are an adult, volik. When you want to lash out, lash out at those responsible for their comments. Pointing out that your opponents are as guilty as the accused is not a moral victory. You are simply confusing equivelancy with superior intelligence.
    I assure you that this is not the case. Rise above that. You seem intelligent enough, just perhaps a little zealous in your political emotions.
    Anyways, all these painting fumes are making me dizzy…
    Good Day

  19. Actually, the heteronormative nature of our society CAN be readily documented. You need only to open your eyes: images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=%22sex+in+advertising%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi.
    So are you saying that I, or all conservatives, are responsible for sex in advertising? Who do you think is responsible for that trend, Liberal minds or Conservative minds?
    If it offends you so much, stand up against it with many of the conservative groups that regard it as unacceptable. Take a stand, man!
    I am on your side apparently – who’d of thunk it?!

  20. Hey, the gigs up! Volik found me out, that clever cat.
    Now’s time for the truth: there is only one commenter on SDA (other than volik) and it is me. I am the Sockpuppet King!
    I must admit:
    I am racist (I hate all races, except Formula F1).
    I am a homophobe (I cower under my bed every night just in case a homosexual walks by me house…they’re so scary!).
    I am anti-Muslim (I hate them because they have such a greater sense of fashion than me).
    I am a knuckle-dragger (look at the bandages on my hands, man!).
    I am a redneck (do you know how many hours in the tanning booth that took?).
    I am stupid (I forged the document stating I hold a BASc).
    Amazing detective work, volik. This country owes you a debt of gratitude. Now, off to another blog to “out” all of them…may I suggest Canadian Cynic? Bye!

  21. Bryan>
    SLAM DUNK!
    Really there is no point to react to volik he does this on every thread. His real purpose is to shut SDA down (Megalomania at it’s worst) but understand there is no point you will make that he will grasp or rationalize. It’s proved over and over in every thread. Simply a leftist troll with an agenda.
    His childish comments have proved age, sexual orientation, rationality and even his masochistic fetishes. Example “some day you might get laid by a real human being” are telling far beyond the words and I believe he feels that he is the loan member of a purple planet called Leftopia where real “human beings” are a scarce commodity………anyway what a hearty chuckle for the weekend.

  22. volik, dude, vitamin D is your friend! You’re getting cabin fever from being in Mum’s basement all the time. Get some sun, go shovel the sidewalk for crap sakes.

  23. Leftists aren’t racist. Unless your name is Condoleeza Rice, Amy Holmes, Michelle Malkin, or Hirsi Ali.
    Leftists aren’t misogynists. Unless you’re name is Kate, Right Girl, Kathy Shaidle, Pamela Geller and everybody mentioned above.
    Leftists aren’t anti-Semetic. Unless you’re a Jew living in Israel, a Conservative Jew, or can be labeled a Zionist.
    Leftists aren’t religiously bigoted. Unless you’re a Christian, a Conservative Jew, or a Muslim apostate.
    Leftists are against murder. Unless you’re a former Conservative Prime Minister named Brian Mulroney. As recently demonstrated by the Liberal MP from PEI. Or your name is Castro, Mao, Stalin or Che.
    Leftists are for justice and rule of law. Unless you disagree with David Suzuki. Or any part of the leftist totalitarian ideology.
    Leftists are for freedom of Speech. As long as it only applies to what they say.
    Leftists are reasonable, rational people. Until you disagree with their feelings and ask them to provide factual evidence.
    Leftists are marked by prejudice over principle. Feelings over fact. And vitriol over everything. Based on the above, it is also reasonable to state that they are indeed misogynist, racist, bigoted, murderous, totalitarian, intellectually handicapped midgets.

  24. I. Sanderson lefties do it far more than the right.
    I see no significant difference, either in intent or effect, between claiming the above and hurling petty profanities, ad hominems, insults, etc. — all are desperate attempts to distract from the substantive debate.
    Lefties do that 18 times as often.
    Liberalism is a mental disorder or something.

  25. Warick and Knight 99 nailed it – volik is a troll, a potty-mouthed vulgar troll, who continually demonstrates that he is incapable of rational discourse. It really is best to ignore him/her/it, unless you really like poking a stick at a caged animal – you know it will snarl, spit, scream, and claw at the cage, and that its rage is utterly in vain.
    voilik’s ‘holier than thou attitude’ gets wearisome, but his silly non sequiturs, risible ‘definitions’, and childish sweeping generalities can be funny.
    However, I will not be reading any more of the childish crap he dumps here; he is another waste of pixels and time (just like John Daly, Robert McClellend, JohnnyRingo, and a few others). It really is best to not encourage any of these losers; they don’t have real, meaningful lives, and are quite happy to make fools out of themselves. But, I do not have any more time for any of them.

  26. Posting on discussion forums opened my eyes to how disgusting some liberal males are, I’ve never had a Conservative Male attack me verbally just debate the topic. However Liberals go from debating to personal attacks, their treatment of females on the net is a matter of public record. Read a few of Canada’s leftard forums and come back and tell me with a straight face that Liberal Males aren’t potty mouths with female issue.
    I decided that most of them are living at home, unemployed young males. They’ve never had a girl friend, nor shall they if they don’t start learning to respect females. Perhaps it’s part of their upbring, religion teaches men that women are something to be cherished. Perhaps non-believers don’t teach their male children to respect women, and that we are equal. I have this image of Liberal Males living in momsey’s basement, they only come upstairs to get snacks and apply pimple cream.
    Some female liberals are pityful really, if they’d just get off their backs close their legs and stand up the glass ceiling would be easy for them to reach. Instead of expecting society to bend to the feminazi perhaps they should practice positive work ethics such as morals and values instead of preaching their “Anything goes if it feels good baby” mantra.

  27. My bad, folks.
    I fed him with some sort of false hope that there would indeed be some kind or reasonable discussion about the issue at hand.
    I was wrong.
    Feeding time is over.

  28. Rose>
    Exactly Rose! Liberals are nothing but leftover hippies and the offspring of hippies that have infiltrated our lacks societies with the benefits of social programs and nanny institutions.
    Again it’s my belief that they were very far and few between in any early societies, until they had built their strength on conservative minds and backs allowing them to lay around their respective communities in lazy comfort. Once these earlier societies were over run with them they collapsed. Rome the poster child of this philosophy. First an Empire built its strength through common sense and purpose then expanded its frontiers. Eventually once it becomes fat and comfortable the weak-minded left steps in to control with their feelings. The results – decadence, soap opera governments and civil discourse followed with eventual collapse………..Just saying.

  29. Yeah Rose, they’re still going nuts in Right Girl’s comment section. The latest meme is trying to justify being mean to Michele Malkin because she linked to some retard’s press release where they posted their own addresses and phone numbers.
    Can’t coun’t can’t read, can’t reason, what’s a Lefty to do but fling poo?

  30. After having their feelings continually crushed by reason and facts, this bunch will eventually fly back to the cave never to reappear again.
    Remember albatros, jose, bigcitylib, jeremiah, etc?

  31. The Phantom: Who defaults to c*nt and F*g in almost any discussion about anything? The Left.
    Hyperbole much? If you can thoroughly document that in “almost any discussion about anything,” the interlocutor representing the ‘Left’ resorts to profanity, then I’ll concede victory. If you can’t, then I look forward to you manning up and admitting your ignorance on the matter. Or more likely, shifting the goalposts.
    Furthermore, whose “peaceful demonstrations” almost invariably erupt in violence? The Left.
    Ditto. Please document the “almost invariable” link between ‘left-wing’ demonstrations and violence. If you require a numerical threshold, let’s assume that “almost invariable” means, say, 98 percent of the time.
    Self defence? Lefties are against it. Private property? Lefties are against it. Freedom of speech? Lefties are against it.
    For someone who kick-started his comment by chiding me about my “nice straw man,” you do a pretty good job yourself.
    Keep in mind that, for starters:
    – the Patriot Act, section 213 of which allows the state to execute searches of private property without first notifying subjects of the search, was drafted by a Republican administration and enacted by a Republican president;
    – insisting that any criticism of Israeli state policy is equivalent to anti-Semitism is its own form of censorship;
    – insisting that any criticism of the “War on Terror” is tantamount to treason is its own form of censorship;
    – insisting that “if you support the troops, then you must support the mission” is its own form of censorship.
    Unlike you, I won’t go so far as to conclude that, therefore, “Righties are against private property, freedom of speech, etc.” But in my view, any rational, honest person can agree that bad apples are to be found on both sides of the aisle. Can you agree to that much?

  32. Oh Bryan
    You were hoping there’d be ‘some reasonable discussion of the issue at hand’ were you? How touching.
    And what is issue is that? The subject of this thread – Kate’s assertion that all progressives are misogynists?
    Or maybe it was her earlier post about all progressives being anti-Semitic.
    The point is that you’re all a bunch of hatebots -you feed on hate like a pit bull feeds on pain – and that’s the only reason this site exists:
    So that Kate can make outrageous unfounded statements of hate and all you guys can feed on them in a moaning, slavering frenzy.
    The question is: why do you all have these irrational, all-consuming feelings of hatred?
    The extremity of it is such that there can only be one answer: you all feel hard-done by, victimized somehow, cheated out of worthwhile lives by someone or something.
    Judging by this thread and its insane, wild-eyed characterizations of liberals as Jew haters, baby-killers, woman-haters, etc., you guys must think of yourselves as big-time failures.

  33. I. Sanderson
    I wouldn’t use facts to counter any of these guy’s ‘arguments’. Facts mean nothing to them.
    Look at Phantom’s assertions. They’re not worthy of being rebutted. They’re just eruptions of insane hatred by a guy who can’t help himself – like a version of Tourette’s. He’s to be pitied, really.
    Certainly it’s just cruel to humour the guy by pretending what he’s saying is grown-up talk.
    No, what needs to be done is to identify exactly what’s going on here: a bunch of hateful talk by haters. There’s no reason or logic involved.
    And to the degree that it’s destructive – i.e., the many specific examples of racism and homophobia I’ve cited in the past – it’s time to work to get this stuff out of the public arena.

  34. I.Sanderson, you are on the wrong side of the border. This is a Canadian blog site. Over here, it was the left who ensured the current Cdn Constitution and Charter of Rights specifically avoids protection of the right to property. If you dig deep enough, you’ll find there was an ideological reason for that.
    It is the left who rallies against the tenuous grip on self-defense barely expressed in our Criminal Code, and regularly ensures you will be charged if you avail yourself of that tenuous right.
    And it is the left, through the extra-judicial “human rights commissions” who will bankrupt you and your charter right to free speech without the benefit of due court process and the scrutiny of your peers.
    No first and second amendments here.

  35. There you go again, volik, jumping to conclusions based on your limited understanding of language. That by the way was an “ad hominem attack”. What you don’t get, is that neither you, nor the Liberals, nor the rest of the left, own the lexicon of life. You don’t get to be the only dictionary, nor the only arbiter of ethical morality.

  36. I thought the reference to kids on computers in mom’s basement was a metaphor.
    Then I saw the movie “The Score”, which takes place in Montreal. In fact there was such a kid, wild-eyed as if on benzedrine, frantically engaged in flame wars and playing video games while spewing vitriol up the stairs at his mother.
    So I now realize that this is a sort of stereotypical character up in the Frozen North.
    All of these silly trolls use as their justification the quest, like Diogenes, for a blog intelligent enough for them to discuss “issues”.
    Maybe they should blog with the Nobel committee. Or perhaps PhD candidates at Oxford, so that they could finally quench their tragic thirst for people who have “been laid” and therefore can think about “the issues” rationally.
    A group whose perception, acumen, lucidity, and scholarship permits them to use words like “cunt”, “pussy”, and getting “laid” with the respectable and erudite intelligence that such terms require.
    On this site much attention is given to the idea that Kate is not “getting laid”. You know, Kate is an attractive woman, and she has many admirers in several different worlds of accomplishment, and doubtlessly she could “get laid” on a regular basis if she wished. In fact, how do you know that she doesn’t?
    This puts me in mind that apparently these trolls in their mom’s basements are a little out of touch with precisely the amount of sexual congress that actually does happen on a regular basis — yes, even in Canada.
    So should any of you trolls manage to get a girlfriend, one of the things you will notice is that she will insist that you not spend every waking moment on the computer indulging in the lascivious passtime of concerning yourself as to whether other people are “getting laid”.

  37. Volik
    “The point is that you’re all a bunch of hatebots …”
    All of us? And yet you felt I had a undiagnosed reading comprehension problem. Instead, it appears that I was able to read between the lines. You have just outed yourself.
    “So that Kate can make outrageous unfounded statements of hate …”
    This is called projection.

  38. Volik being leftist knows all about Kos and other typical cesspools in his side of the blogosphere so his criticisms of posters at this site as being “full of hate” are laughable. Leftist commenters cannot discuss something even as dry as the science of climate change without comparing their opponents to (holocaust) deniers.
    Apparently even Volik prefers to hang out on a conservative site for the relatively civilized atmosphere instead of with his demented peers. Lord knows he sticks his smug and boring diatribes in here with an unseemly frequency for someone so scandalized by the surroundings.

  39. Everyone>
    I think it’s time to stop hassling volick before he does serious harm to himself and quite possibly others. This is no idle concern as his increasingly deluded and frenzied comments are approaching a fevered pitch and the warning signs are clear.
    Support Volik even as a lower member of the animal kingdom
    http://www.pbase.com/ainy/tiffany
    People need to realize that his comments derive from more than one angle and issue. He truly needs pity and compassion not shun and distain……………….
    Volik you aren’t alone on this crazy planet of irrrational thought…………Don’t kill yourself over it sister…………..

  40. Well volik, congratulations, you made me eat my words!
    I take it back.
    You don’t seem really seem intelligent at all.

  41. I.Sanderson said: “But in my view, any rational, honest person can agree that bad apples are to be found on both sides of the aisle. Can you agree to that much?”
    No, not really. While I’m sure there is some creepy guy out there someplace who calls himself a conservative, you have to dig to find him. On the other hand we have the Left, who do nothing but character assassination and foul invective.
    I’m not going to do your homework for you, but here’s a place to start.
    self defense- gun registry
    private property – Caledonia Ontario
    Freedom of speech- Canadian Human Rights Commission.
    Violent demonstrations? Anti-globalization protesters in Quebec City, eco-protesters burning down houses, anti-Israel protesters at McGill…
    How much do you want?

  42. I. Sanderson
    “Ditto. Please document the “almost invariable” link between ‘left-wing’ demonstrations and violence. If you require a numerical threshold, let’s assume that “almost invariable” means, say, 98 percent of the time.”
    And right on cue, a bomb explodes at a military recruiting station in the heart of a crowded city.

  43. “I wouldn’t use facts to counter any of these guy’s ‘arguments’. Facts mean nothing to them.” – volik
    That’s the funniest statement on this entire thread.

  44. Now for some logic. My opinions are right. Contrary opinions are wrong. It would take someone more schizophrenic than a schizophrenic to think that his own opinion is wrong. To have an opinion is to hold it to be right.
    Now for some more logic.
    A disorder exists if the natural and healthy function of an organ is hindered. Homosexuality hinders the reproductive function of the genitals. Therefore it is a disorder.

  45. Hyoo
    In matters where the rightness or wrongness of an opinion is not confirmed by objective fact, the mature individual doesn’t insist that his/her opinion is objectively right – though certainly he/she has the right to consider it subjectively right for him/her.

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