Where the foxes caper unmolested, the government packs your school lunch, and all without firing a shot;
The Archbishop of Canterbury has today said that the adoption of Islamic Sharia law in the UK is “unavoidable” and that it would help maintain social cohesion.
Rowan Williams told BBC Radio 4’s World At One that the UK has to “face up to the fact” that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system.
Update – the backlash begins. Thank heavens. (link fixed)
Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?
Someone had to say it 🙂
Actually, the ArchBishop is just preparing the way for the new king:
In a 1997 Middle East Quarterly article titled “Prince Charles of Arabia,” Ronni L. Gordon and David M. Stillman looked at evidence that Britain’s Prince Charles might be a secret convert to Islam. They shifted through his public statements (defending Islamic law, praising the status of Muslim women, seeing in Islam a solution for Britain’s ailments) and actions (setting up a panel of twelve “wise men” to advise him on Islamic religion and culture), then concluded that, “should Charles persist in his admiration of Islam and defamation of his own culture,” his accession to the throne will indeed usher in a “different kind of monarchy.”
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/119
Hey Sharia Law is Great ….if you’re a man…
Not so great if you’re a woman.
Where are all the Womens rights groups on this..
Funny they are so blinded about protecting minorities that they don’t realize that they are supporting their own annhilation.
Women of the free world … let’s hear you shout from the roof tops, ” I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore”…
“thoughtless and cruel” styles of speaking.”‘
Presumably Terrence, this means saying “I don’t want them to blow me up”
Behead those who insult Islam will be allowed to prove the good loony’s tolerance.
My letter to the Archdoofus:
Dear Mr. Williams,
I wonder if you have any idea how much distress you bring to lovers of Western civilization with your bizarre pronouncements on Islam and Sharia. A man in your position can’t possibly be ignorant of the implications of Islam supplanting the religious organization you supposedly guide, and the devastating effects of your abnegation of the role and duty entrusted to you. Your country appears to be swamped by a crisis of cultural confidence, but every time I hear of you, it is because of some unbelievably witless pronouncement coming from your lips. If you are so disinclined to bring some common English decency and wisdom to your task, perhaps you should resign and seek employment with the forces that threaten your society. It appears to be your purpose, in any case.
I am no one, living far from you and England, but sickened to see you blithely pulling the pillars of enlightened civilization down around the heads of everyone who foolishly are trusting in you. I write to express my sense of betrayal, not as an Anglican, but as someone who believes the Western world needs clear and courageous leadership in these darkening times.
Sincerely,
(DL)
Hey Sharia Law is Great ….if you’re a man…
And a over-sexed, black criminal/ex-con!
From the following article
http://timescolumns.typepad.com/gledhill/2008/02/has-the-archbis.html
This woman, who for obvious reasons begged not to be identified, told me: ‘The men get tired of their wives. Or bored. Or maybe the wife objects to her daughter being forced into a marriage she doesn’t want. Or maybe she starts wearing western clothes.There can be many reasons. The women are sent for asssessment to a hospital. The GP referring them is Muslim. The psychiatrist assessing them is Muslim and male. I have sat in these assessments where the psychiatrist will not look the woman patient in the eye because she is a woman. Can you imagine! A psychiatrist refusing to look his patient in the eye? The woman speaks little or no English. She is sectioned. She is divorced. There are lots of these women in there, locked up in these hospitals. Why don’t you people write about this?’
My interlocuter went very red and almost started to cry. Instead, she began shouting at me. I was a member of the press. ‘You must write about this,’ she begged.
‘I can’t,’ I said. ‘Not unless you become a whistle-blower. Or give me some evidence. Or something.’
She shook her head. ‘I can’t be identified,’ she said. ‘I would be killed. And so would the women.’
This is dangerous, disheartening, and disappointing.
I’ve often risen to defend religion, but cannot do so in this case.
Because of the enormous consequences of the pedophile scandals in the Catholic Church, many sincere, devout, and morally conscious Catholics left the Roman church to become Episcopalians.
Well, sir, in the US the Episcopalian Church then had terrible problems of its own. Openly gay men were appointed as bishops. Feminist theology began to have a central position to the extent of seeing the crucifixion as being God as Mother giving birth to New Possibilites.
The conservative Episcopal population rebelled against this by some throwing off their Episcopal shackles and becoming a full part of the Anglican Communion. (By this time, of course, our Catholic converts are staggering about the streets with a stunned expression, perhaps looking into Wicca…)
And now the Archbishop of Canterbury is corrupting the Anglican Communion by this capricious and dangerous pronouncement.
What we all have to be very alarmed about is our politicians immigrating so many practitioners of Islam into our countries that they begin to have power in the ballot box. Many have written here about a variety of possibilities relative to Islam. However, if Islam begins to gain political power in our countries, all of those conjectures will fall to a relentless Islam pressing for sharia.
another Muslim cartoon furor in the making:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/books/05wiki.html?_r=2&ex=1360126800&en=ebab932c6d8d4bdb&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
“Islamic Sharia law in the UK is “unavoidable” and that it would help maintain social cohesion”
“maintain social cohesion”…..”social cohesion”…..What has this guy been drinking/smoking/inhaling/imbibing, what planet is he from, is he from an alternate universe….what “social cohesion”. He has already surrendered. If they are unable to relate to the British legal system, then they should go back from whence they came and do their sharia thing there.
Don’t be too hard on the Bish. He is a product of his education which serves only to destroy any faith with which the aspiring candidate may have started out.
Of course there is also the question as to whether he had any faith when he started. I can’t tell you how many ‘leaders’ of the mainline churches so lack Christian faith they literaly call Jesus a liar.
The biggest lesson I got out of reading the estimable Efraim Karsh about Islamic Imperialism is how essential was the collusion from the Christian Church elites. In other words, without that collusion Islamic expansionism would definitely not have advanced so far.
Same deal today with Williams as well as most of our secular elites, esp. the EU.
P-o-w-e-r.
Only a revolution by the awakened un-washed masses will reverse this incipient disaster.
the whole world has gone totally f*#%in’ nuts
I can hardly believe this. A quick scan on the Internet revealed that in 2004, the Muslim population in Great Britain was estimated at 1.8 million. The British population is about 60 million. That makes Muslims about 3% of the population. Yet this worm of a prelate is ready to cast aside centuries of British law to satisfy a sullen, corrosive fifth column.
This “intellectual” (or so he was identified by one, albeit unsympathetic observer) can complete his public self-portrait by getting down on his knees, bending over, and presenting his butt for anal penetration. That appears to be his natural position.
The Prime Minister believes British law should apply in this country, based on British values.
I never thought I’d see a Labour P.M. assert such, er, nationalism. Thanks for facilitating that small blessing, Archbishop.
That’s pretty shocking that the Archbishop of Canterbury thinks that Saria law is pretty well inevitable in the UK. I guess it’s true that we are in an age when the geeks shall inherit the earth. Brains have overtaken brawn in our information society. Unfortunately, a central characteristic of a geek is cowardice and fear of physical threat – ie cowering in the face of the schoolyard bully and negotiating in vain.
If I’m not mistaken, Churchill faced the same cowardice from a number of his cabinet members and advisors during the early stages of WWII when they pleaded with him to negotiate with the Germans because they saw defeat as inevitable and the Germans had promised that they would be decent in their victory. He didn’t, thank God for the British people because apparently after the war, when the Nazi’s war plan came to light, the actual plan the German’s had for England, if they had capitulated, was pretty horrendeous. Terror, mass murder and retribution, including Churchill, his gov’t and most of the intellectual crowd. The very same cowards who advised him to capitulate. Sound familiar?
I’m sure that the chattering lefty intellectual pandering crowd in the media, universities and society in gereral in Britain will see this as some kind of victory for their multicultural and tolerance idology. A confirmation of their progressiveness and their bravery in the face of the unknown. And, a stick in the eye to those nasty conservative-minded cavemen.
They think so highly of themselves and their irresistible virture that they can’t see that if things keep going as they are, they’ll be the first dumplings dropped into the cauldren of boiling olive oil and the only feminist, enviornmental and gay lobbying going on will be their heads being lobbied off on primetime TV.
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“the adoption of Islamic Sharia law in the UK is “unavoidable”.
a small point perhaps, but this sounds more like… “resistance
is futile” than “happy days are here again”.
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What was the point of all the sacrifices made in WWII. When 60 years on they just roll over for the Muslims
From his bio: “Dr Williams is a noted poet and translator of poetry. His collection The Poems of Rowan Williams, published by Perpetua Press, was longlisted for the Wales Book of the Year award in 2004.”
Figures. Show me a poet and I’ll write you an asshat.
Thank God that Brown has asserted Britain’s justice system over Sharia law. Can you imagine if the Brits had Taliban Jack as their PM? A useful idiot like the Archbishop would be all he’d need to make it happen in a heartbeat!
It’s hard to take any comfort from Brown’s words on this matter when his party and government has systematically destroyed England from within, and do not appear yet to have appreciated the disaster they have created.
It’s hard to get past the fact that 25% believed Churchill a myth, and 50% Lionheart. How is that possible? How can a nation lose its greatness, and its knowledge of its greatness, so quickly.
The Islamic Republik of Britain.
So, do we all finally understand the purpose of the British gun ban? Hmmmn?
ET rightly points out “Because someone doesn’t ‘relate’ to your legal system doesn’t mean that you change your system to accomodate their beliefs…”
In the sad case of the Archbishop of Canterbury, he has been acclimatized to this way of thinking by the Anglican Church’s changing its core Christian beliefs, radically so in the past 30 years, in order to accomodate secular, humanist society. A jump to changing Britain’s legal system to accomodate a troublesome group isn’t such a huge leap, in this context.
But, it is a remarkably stupid and dangerous one. Rowan Williams naively assumes that others–i.e. Muslims with their Sharia Law–are as “reasonable” and “peace loving” as he is, a far stretch given what we know about the rabid radical elements of fascist Islam operating in the UK. As a Christian cleric he certainly seems to have forgotten one of Christianity’s core doctrines, which is fallen human nature as a given.
One can only wonder what planet Rowan Williams is living on. Prediction: The Anglican Church is about to experience another mass exodus of its parishioners jumping ship, heading for higher and dryer ground. With a leader like Williams, this particular barque of the Christian Church is heading for a massive wreck.
BTW, it’s not difficult to understand why Tony Blair just became a Catholic.
I am an ex-Anglican. ‘Couldn’t take this kind of lunacy anymore.
As some many of posters have pointed out multiculturalism is the reason this is happening. If all cultures are equal then muslims should be allowed to practice sharia law as it is part and parcel of their culture. This soft lefty Rowan Williams can’t see that cultures are not equal and the one he is bending over for while mumbling his poetry will give him a painful reminder of that.
Perhaps if white anglo saxon males began promoting sharia law, based on the fact that it only benefits men, we might see a quick conclusion.
I’m sure that’s all it would take to trigger the otherwise lethargic feminist groups into a legal frenzy.
Then perhaps the government would enact laws to directly protect against the imposition of shariah in any form.
In other words, neuter it, for good.
Hey, it might only take a t-shirt and bumper stickers:
“I want four wives too. Bring on shariah law.”
I remember being taught in school that our system of “cultural mosaic” (aka multiculturalism) was far superior to the American “melting pot” approach.
Who’s laughing now?
Like ‘been around the block, I too have parted company with the Anglican Church. Rowan Williams is a disgrace and in a saner time would be excommunicated. I’d like to know why the Queen as head of the Church of England is silent on this issue? It goes beyond neutrality.
Count me in with batb and Liz J: I’m also an ex-Anglican. Thank goodness: my blood pressure used to soar when the Anglicans did these crazy, apostate things.
Now, I read about them, shake my head, say some prayers for the many faithful–and unfaithful: Lord, have mercy–Anglicans and get on with my life in a Church that takes its teachings seriously.
This is just another jagged tear in the side of the “good” Ship Anglican. Glub, glub, glub . . . It’s more than sad.
Kate, your update link supposed to go somewhere…?
Dr. Irene Lancaster FRSA
February 8th, 2008 6:57am
When ‘citizenship’ was introduced to the school curriculum, I was asked to teach aspects of the subject at a large state girls’ school in Greater Manchester. The subject of ‘crime and punishment’ came up, as it normally does in RE lessons. The teacher’s role was to encourage debate on this subject, without making ‘judgements’. Without exception, every Muslim child in the class opted for sharia law as the correct British response to burglary, for instance. When asked to elaborate further, they insisted that this should cover all British citizens, irrespective of religion or creed, as ‘sharia law knows no boundaries’. When asked what the punishment for burglary would be, they all stated ‘amputation of hands’. This disucssion took place in 1999, well before 9/11. When I reported my considerable misgivings to the school authorities, I was told that pupils were ‘entitled to their opinion, and by the way, Manchester LEA has asked that we do not use the word ‘Israel’ in class, so as not to offend Muslim pupils’. Unfortunately for Manchester LEA the RE subject to be taught in another class was ‘the Exodus from Egypt’. And their own syllabus mentioned ‘the Children of Israel’. Teachers were now expected to use the phrase ‘Children of Palestine’. I reported all this to the local Manchester Representative Jewish Council who basically accused me of fabricating the whole thing. ‘We know the advisor for RE and she would never do such a thing’. Any wonder that the Arcbbishop of Canterbury is now advocating sharia law and using Jewish norms incorrectly to implement it.
Another teacher like Lookout runs into her lefty administration.
When I click on “the backlash begins,” I get a blank page. ‘Anyone else having trouble opening it?
I sure it has been said already, but I think that one of the main reasons for moving to a country like Britain, or another English Common Law Code location, is to get he benefit of English Common Law. Outside of the English speaking countries where can you stand up with the skin, race, religion, and sex you are provided with state your case and be dealt with fairly?
Reading the response, not even the mainstream Muslims want to have Shaia law intrude on the rights they enjoy under British Common Law, go figure eh…
Juuuust, to be on the safe side ..
Does anything RYME with ” the-adoption-of-Islamic-Sharia-law-in-the-UK-is -unavoidable-and-that-it- would-help-maintain-social-cohesion” ?
Four wives….hmmmm. That could be more manageable than just one. The one I got doesn’t much like it when I spend too much time with my buddies in the bar. Now four of them could keep each other company – you know -playing cards or something.