“… writes a powerful defence of the Canadian military mission in Afghanistan and nobody reports it, is that the same as if he never wrote it at all?
It’s not an accidental oversight.
Full text here.
(Reminder: For informed analysis and coverage of Afghanistan that the self-admitted Liberal waterboys in Canadian media can’t be bothered to provide, bookmark the Torch.)
Heavens No!! You mean the open transparent and balanced CBC (ask John Cruikshank) wouldn’t report such a thing. But the way John if you or one of your stooges is watching what other Lib MP did Krista send the questions to?
This will get you the full text:
http://www.david-kilgour.com/2008/Jan_26_2008_03.htm
Thanks BB – updated.
It’s not that the liberal waterboys can’t be “bothered” to report it. Rather, this information does not agree with “The Script” and therefore must not be disemminated.
“The Script” being that the mission in Afghanistan will become a “Vietnam-like-quagmire” contributing to the defeat of the Harper governement and renewed power for Canada’s natural governing party (and the resultant renewed career opportunities for particularly compliant MSM scribes).
Let me take a stab at what goes on in the mind of a Kool-Aid drinking Liberal Fascist:
“Ban Ki-moon? What does he know, he’s just some (truly racist expletive)”
This is actually how they think. The cognitive dissonance is truly astounding. They want the state to control the impulses of our hearts through mandatory racial quotas, yet they harbor feelings just like stated above, only because they have no balance in their mental life. I know, I used to be one of them.
Off Topic Tip:
Very interesting story in the IHt about the relationship among mining financier Frank Giustra, Bill Clinton and the President of Kazakstan (really). Wonder if this guy was mentorred by Maurice Strong?
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/31/asia/donor.php
It is not within CBCpravda’s hidden agenda, therefore they would be foolish to report this.
right now the CBC horse twitch has come off global warming and on to frozen children.we should get a week of why the government failed them and how much money it will cost the taxpayer.
Criminals and opportunists? No mention of terrorists? So, are we fighting the mafia and rouge wall street traders in the sandbox now?
Thanks to Moon for the support but until the UN can stand up and call a spade a spade why do we need more weasel words thrown into the mix? Joe and Jill Double Double are already confused enough about who exactly it is that we are fighting over there.
So does Steffi still believe in the UN or does he now think he is so smart he can just cherry pick if & when to be a multilateralist ?
Same question for Taliban Jacko the Whacko
Only braindead socialists and heartless slimy liberals wouldn’t agree with Ban Ki-moon’s assessment. If the West doesn’t continue to smash the Islamic extremist cult that used Afghanistan as a home base we will have to return later to finish the job at a far greater cost.
My main concern with the mission is what’s filling the power vacuum left behind. How can we claim victory if Afghanistan’s dreaded hardcore Taliban are replaced with another group with pretty much the same basic idealogy?
Combine this . . .
** If the Secretary General of the United Nations
*… writes a powerful defence of the Canadian military mission in Afghanistan and nobody reports it, is that the same as if he never wrote it at all?**
======== with this . . .
RAND Corporation made similar recommendations last summer.
(Via CSP) Think tank: Surge now needed in Afghanistan. **
======== and this . . .
Ex-UN ambassador Bolton calls for more Nato support in Afghanistan.
What does the MSM need . . .a Nuke event?
= TG
Even more reason to distrust the impartiality of the media on the Afghanistan file.
Rand Corp link on Afghanistan. .
rand.org/pubs/corporate_pubs/2007/RAND_CP22-2007-08.pdf
= TG
[quote]Let me take a stab at what goes on in the mind of a Kool-Aid drinking Liberal Fascist:
“Ban Ki-moon? What does he know, he’s just some (truly racist expletive)”
This is actually how they think. The cognitive dissonance is truly astounding. They want the state to control the impulses of our hearts through mandatory racial quotas, yet they harbor feelings just like stated above, only because they have no balance in their mental life. I know, I used to be one of them [/quote]
Doug,
Yes, but I also want to know when they gave up on Canada… What is it they hope to achieve?
The Green Gerbils are a full-scale attack on the sustainable economic policy of “any” government. It’s a complex paradox.
I’ll wager that half of the journos in the country saw the name and thought “leader of North Korea”…
Great comment Kate, sadly it is too close to the truth.
Why is Afghanistan so important?
Well, among other things. . .
* *
Pakistan has received more aid from Saudi Arabia than any country outside the Arab world since the 1960s. For example, in May 1998 when Pakistan was deciding whether to respond to India’s test of five nuclear weapons, the Saudis promised 50,000 barrels per day of free oil to help the Pakistanis cope with the economic sanctions that might be triggered by a counter test.
The Saudi oil commitment was a key to then Prime Minster Nawaz Sharif’s decision to proceed with testing. It cushioned the subsequent U.S. and EU sanctions on Pakistan considerably.
Official aid is matched by large investments from Saudi princes and from religious institutions. Much of the Pakistani madrassa educational system, for instance, is Saudi funded by private donors.
brookings.edu/opinions/2008/0128_saudi_arabia_riedel.aspx
============= Brookings Institution
Think, if India is our loyal friend / ally, then Saudi backed Pakistan is our ene.. problem?
Pakistan needs schools to offset the madrassah system, so balance is a long term effort.
No one said it would be easy. = TG
If anyone still had any doubts about the true colours of our agenda-driven MSM, this makes it impossible to doubt. Remember that our MSM belong to those who worship at the alter of the UN, the world body which can do no wrong.
So long as they stick to the Fascist play book. Thus, when making statements in support of common sense, Ban Ki-moon suddenly becomes a G**k. And I fully understand that otherwise he is a useful idiot of the Fascist Left, as they say, even a broken clock…..
Phillip, you ask “what is it they hope to achieve?” well for the most part Libtards and useful idiots really have no idea what they want to achieve other than to hand their hearts and minds over to the Nanny state which will be ruled by those with far more evil intentions who, by the way, know EXACTLY what it is they want: Total control of the state ruling the population in every aspect of life. What does that mean? State Religion = FASCISM.
If UN SecGen Ban Ki-moon had written an essay questioning the Afghanistan mission, how big do you think the front page headlines would have been?
I wonder if our being upset that the MSM doesn’t carry information about events that show that our Conservative government is right – is valid.
That is, we are assuming that the MSM (newspapers and television) are, and ought to be, the dominant source of news in the world. And, in particular, in Canada. I wonder if that is valid.
Statistics show that newspaper subscriptions are plummeting; the daily newspaper is no longer a source of information. If it is even subscribed to, it is primarily a source of gossip, or advertisements – (and gossip is fictional).
It’s the same with television.
Mike Duffy’s show, Don Newman’s show on politics; they are gossip shows. Watercooler shows. There’s little factual content in them. Both will insert an item about the government, and then, will have a roundtable of leftist news writers/TV journalists filled with malicious speculation and misinformed gossip about it.
More and more people are connected by the internet and they are receiving their information via that source. Not from the MSM.
So, are our assumptions that the MSM are the chief source of information in Canada entirely accurate?
ET, you have a point. CTV Newsnet in the morning has been reduced to a variety show, complete with Sarah McLaughlin songs and other non-news items.
They are what they are and I think most people understand this, in spite of railing against it, aren’t concerned that they’re going to change election results and/or control the message as they have in the past.
In short, most of the Puffy and Giggles set are full of themselves, too arrogant to admit their obvious bias (Galloway and her Liberal lover).
To all of it I say “so what, who cares what they think.” Harper has treated them the same way, and it drives them nuts. In particular, Oliver’s political judgement is abysmal. They talk about this or that poll, seemingly unaware that they are notoriously inaccurate at the best of times and seemed designed to formulate, rather than reflect political opinion.
Many obvious things seem beyond them. They don’t seem to understand that the vast majority of Canadians could care less about political issues until elections are called, and even then only about 60% actually turn out to vote.
Errr.
So the United Nations is only good when it says something you want to hear? I dont hear conservatives or conservative newspapers paying much attention to the UN when the latter says or does anything that conservatives cant attack.
I mean really most conservatives only like hearing the word UN when its in the same sentence as “anti-Israel” or “Corruption”.
And then something comes along praising the military and you re angry that the liberal media didnt pick it up?
The day a conservative newspaper/website/commentator gives the UN due credit for all the good things it does – you know – like run the world food program, or who or you know, those other parts of the UN that involve helping people, I will vote conservative.
bleh, when you see this story running HEADLINES on CBC/CTV/Global and read it in the G&M/NP/TS then come back here and make the same accusation.
We’ll be waiting…..until then, you’re just a useful idiot.
Another voice on Canada’s contribution:
(PDF warning) Nora Bensahel, RAND Corporation, International Perspectives on Interagency Reform
Testimony presented before the House Armed Services Committee, Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations on January 29, 2008
The problem (p. 4 of the PDF):
Her assessment of Canada’s effort to solve the problem (p.7 of the PDF):
bleh says….
– like run the world food program, or who or you know, those other parts of the UN that involve helping people, I will vote conservative.
yes they certainly did do a good job of lining the pockets of themselves and other despots. iraq oil for food programme jog your memory any.
Bleh ,
Funniest thing I’ve read in a long time , thanks .
This article reminded me of the speech given by Harper at the UN about a year or so ago. It too was ignored by the media in Canada.If an item does not praise the libs or denigrate the conservatives it is not newsworthy. I would bet that if lizzie may held a press conference spouting her views on the war,she would recieve more coverage than Ki-moon.
Lining peoples pockets or not, they re not nearly half as corrupt as most of the folk in government (liberal/conservative/republican/democrat) – if you dig you will find. Kind of like Haliburton and Iraq. No corruption there. They ve probably walked off with a couple of million quid. Peanuts if you compare it to the political party structures in most countries. Including Canada. Where third world countries are transparent in their corruption, first world countries are opaque. IN the third world, everyone is corrupt. In the first world, only the top layers – the real untouchables. Conspiracy theory? Look into it sometime.
The fact is that they do a lot more than any other organization in this world to help people who really have no one to turn to.
But I suppose you arent affected by the fact that you re living in your isolated winter wonderland.
Thank god for the facts of life. Clearly, you’ve lived. Though I would probably use the word existed instead of lived, if I was you.
There is only one side to every story apparently. And you seem to know it.
bleh – are you for real? If so, perhaps your medication has run out, since the corruption and ineffectiveness of the UN is well know and well documented.
No, there’s this little thing called the TRUTH, that’s what it’s all about. But that’s apparently beyond your Libtard Fascist comprehension skills.
Dennis Prager says, Libtards think conservatives are evil, but conservatives think Libatrds are merely wrong, i.e. don’t know the truth even if it blew up in their faces.
Actually the Globe and Mail would have published the letter had they only known that it was from the Secretary General of the United Nations.
It’s just that they saw Ban Ki-moon and thought it was a menu item from the local Chinese Restaurant.
ET I agree, and I know where you are going with this. Why should we prod or demand MSM step up to the plate and ‘report’ when all that “Jack and Jill Double Double”( from previous comment) care about is the price of gas for the SUV.And could we trust Lloyd or Peter with the message when as to parody Kate’s message, they(J&J) want MSM to tell them what to think.
Perhaps the Levant-HRC sory is too complicated for MSM to dumb it down and connect it with the Martin Motion re: HRC?The same for the UN A’stan report.
But dwell on Harper’s Greek comment ‘cuz that’s what gets their mojo goin.
And spin the Taliban detainee story ‘cuz it sounds anti-CPC enough to get those 10 second sound bites out, and then have Ollie and Fife tell us what PMSH is really doing.
It’s getting very tired.
I have been asked to assist my local CPC candidate. The first thing I hope to do with him is make sure he has a team that is internet savvy and not depending on MSM.When I spoke with him in November, sad to say, he didn’t have a clue about many issues.
Bleh,
I think you have stated your *feelings* rather than your informed opinion.
Use the search right here on this blog and discover why **Oil for Food* is so poisonous.
You said: **IN the third world, everyone is corrupt. In the first world, only the top layers – the real untouchables. Conspiracy theory? Look into it sometime. **
You seem to be barking up the right trees.
All you have to do is hold off calling persons or groups names . . . Too emotional, and simply add a link or two that proves your point.
Careful though, you will discover new truths and could become somewhat more conservative.
The Liberal Party in Canada went very sour during it*s 13 year dictatorship.
Scamslist.blog.com
Choose your team carefully. = TG
wallyj – speaking of Elizabeth May, I saw five minutes of her on The Hour (CBC) today; I couldn’t watch more than that. She’s a bit like an overindulged teen-queen in her assumptions and self-definition. One priceless self-definition of herself was her claim that She speaks The Truth.
Ah. How incredible. Doesn’t she realize that such a self-definition of herself means that anyone who disagrees with her, is, by definition, speaking A Lie?
bleh- I think you should do some research on the UN. You seem to be saying that ALL systems are corrupt, and in the ‘scale of corruption’, the UN is among the least. I think, if you did some research, you’d find that the UN, unfortunately, is among the most corrupt world institutions.
Remember the tsunami? The UN, heh, didn’t arrive; it wanted to ‘do a study’ to check what was needed. The first to arrive, and do the most, were the USA and Australia.
Did the UN stop the genocide in Rwanda? In Darfur? In Bosnia? No.
Did the UN stop famine in Somalia, in Ethiopia? What’s it doing in Zimbabwe? Nothing.
Story after story (check out the facts) of UN aid show how much of that aid, paid for by other nations, gets siphoned off to various overlords, to friends of UN agents to be sold on the black market..and so on.
If you check, you’ll find that the US is the world’s largest aid-generator. Not the UN.
The thing about the UN is that it is totally, completely, unaccountable. It is completely undemocratic. It has transformed from its original idealist agenda to an enormous bureaucratic machine. Most of its money goes to fund its bureaucrats – with their well-paid, unaccountable jobs-for-life. So, with no accountability and undemocratic (representatives aren’t elected) – the UN has, in one generation, become totally corrupt. And it’s not just a few million. Try billions and billions.
Haven”t paid for a subscription for 2 years at LEAST!!
Seems like money well unspent!! LOL
George Clooney’s the head of the U.N. no? Seems to be getting more press. And now that he’s in the real world seems to be saying a lot of, “Well you know, it’s more complicated than you think.” or “There’s no easy answer.” or “What the F*** am I doing here in Africa!”
Lorrie Goldstein is one Journalist who spends his time reporting on the news — not ‘dumbing it down’ !
ET: “So, are our assumptions that the MSM are the chief source of information in Canada entirely accurate?”
Yes, by a long way. While Canada has a high rate of internet adoption, there is little evidence that it is used to supplant traditional media sources. TV time has dropped, but that was not media time in the first place, and it is not being replaced by internet media time. Media, for the bulk of Canadians, remains an entertainment source. What news people pick up, comes mostly collaterally from entertainment surfing, or a quick trip to the news for a sensational event. I would wager, if you did the survey across all Canadians, a higher proportion can tell you what happened to Britney this week than why we are in Afghanistan. Most Canadians don’t have an informed opinion about anything beyond the realities of their daily lives, and its getting worse, largely, in my opinion, due to a failed educational system. MSM still provides the bulk of the sound/word bite content that most Canadians believe is “real” news. All you have to do is read the letters to editors and listen to the “man in the street” interviews to gain a sense of the depth of ignorance, irrespective of whether or not the presentations are agendized.