And “unsettling” climate model results;
Steve, here’s my conjecture about what this means. The references to Senior and Mitchell in the TAR were written by person A who had read them a while back and thought they fit into the big picture in such-and-such a way. The portion of TAR text you quoted was written by Person A late one tiring day, rushing to meet a deadline before he had to finish grading some term papers then pick up his son from track and field. He never figured what he was writing was the last word on anything in particular. Whether or not the text was commented on by busy reviewers, they ended up in the final text more or less in the form they were first jotted down.
The portion quoted from the AR4 was written by Person B late one tiring day, rushing to meet a deadline before he had to finish grading some term papers then pick up his daughter from volleyball. He never figured what he was writing was the last word on anything in particular. Whether or not they were commented on by busy reviewers, they ended up in the final text more or less in the form they were first jotted down.
The problem in each case is that text originating as the current opinions of Persons A and B, and therefore subject not only to revision but simple error, gets promoted by the IPCC as if it were the Last Word, the Authoritative, the Most-Stringently-Peer-Reviewed-In-History Dictation of the Angels. The fact that parts contradict each other within the same report, let alone across different reports, is only a problem for those naive enough to believe the hype from the IPCC leaders about the nature of the assessment reports.
Like Voldemort being killed by his own rebounding killing curse, proponents of the case for AGW have effectively destroyed their purported hypothesis by their own selfish altruistic actions.
“selfish altruism” …a new dialectic synthesis?
Caution: Whatever you learn from scientists and *experts* you must hold in reserve until you can verify/check for a year or two.
Mistaken FearMonger Press From BSE to Global Warming
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spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/books/427731/too-much-zeal.thtml
The most expensive scare, which became a scam, was the campaign against asbestos. In this case, a genuine source of harm from amphiboles (which had been tackled long ago) was confused with the harmless ‘white’ asbestos which formed 90 per cent of all asbestos-containing materials.
Neither the media nor the law-makers armed themselves with the facts to resist the combined pressures from interest groups, lawyers seeking personal injury fees and contractors earning inflated sums to remove the innocent fire-resistant material.
In Britain and America, bankrupting litigation was brought against companies dealing with the innocuous substance. Juries began awarding $25 million each to plaintiffs who showed no symptoms of ill health. A collective madness took hold. Lloyds of London was brought to the brink of ruin, a fate passed on to many of its names.
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Sadly, such frequent infelicities are minor matters compared to the jaw-dropping outrages and abuses of authority revealed by the dogged research of Christopher Booker and Richard North. Scared to Death is a masterful and salutary account of the most costly misjudgments of the last 25 years. Written with painful clarity, here is an important study of the process by which sloppy science becomes a difficult to shift orthodoxy.
In the process, Booker and North have produced a shocking but not remotely hysterical indictment of how government error is re-enforced — rather than held to account — by the media and special interest groups.
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WLMR: “…a new dialectic synthesis?”
Yes, that’s the whole point, LOL. If you like William, I should have said, “selfish behaviour that puports to be altruistic” . But my oxymoronic “selfish altruism” statement also stands well describing the egomaniacal and narcissistic “Greens'” belief that they have all the right answers to their perceived problems of the world. We should accept their “unselfish” or “altruistic” maschinations and guidance without question as they know solely what is for “the greater good”. (uh oh, another veiled HP book 7 reference.)
And now, the waterworks.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Clinton_fights_tears_Its_not_easy.html
And now, the waterworks.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Clinton_fights_tears_Its_not_easy.html
And now, the waterworks.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Clinton_fights_tears_Its_not_easy.html
A letter writer in the Star, commenting on an article by Frank Furedi, ‘the case against pessimism,” opines at the end – “Furedi should get his facts straight before telling us the sky won’t fall.”
We’ve gone from a world where ‘chicken little’ was a derogatory epithet, to one where it is the ideal.
Contradictions in a UN report? But, this cannot BE!
Schwarze Tulpe said:
“But my oxymoronic “selfish altruism” statement also stands well describing the egomaniacal and narcissistic “Greens'” belief that they have all the right answers to their perceived problems of the world.”
>>> then it stands as a new relativist dialectic outcome..quasi-oxymoronic…but more true than sarcastic. LOL 😉
Here’s a tell-all Freudian slip from the green pubah:
“Americans are burned out on individualism and nationalism…you will wish you had the rights of trees after we’re finished” – Maurice Strong – (responding to a reporter asking why the delegates at the UN Rio earth summit were more concerned with the rights of trees rather than the rights of people.)
This is little more than the way politics has always worked. If there is no imminent threat it become incumbent upon the ruling class to create a perceived threat so that the rulers can be seen to be doing something important. Witness the “protesters” at all the world leader conferences, far from detracting from the meetings they make the meetings seem that much more important. The leaders may be debating the merits of tuna on rye versus tuna on brown but the protests make it seem so earth shattering important who wouldn’t follow their country’s leader.
WL, I always thought that was spelled “poobah”. Other than that, with Mo Stlong talking like that should we be surprised we don’t have the right to own property?
I plugged the appropriate parameters into my computer model of Chuck Yaeger’s P-51 and was able to shoot down half the Luftwaffe — before lunch!
“WL, I always thought that was spelled “poobah”.”
Poo = fecal matter (bovine)
Bah = an exclamation of disbelief
Poobah he lives poobah he be…Chairman Moe leader of the shallow end of the gene pool.
What a great quote on Mo Strong, WL.
That’s a keeper for my vault.
What’s next – ‘trees have feelings too’?
Wait till the CHRC gets a hold of this.
WLM, excellent quote you found of Maurice Strong’s. However, you are being much too kind to Strong by giving him the benefit of the doubt and calling that contemptuous quote of his a Freudian slip.
He makes no effort to conceal that he is the epitome of the egomaniacal socialist anti-human with a wealth of infamous quotes available here: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/mauricestr185660.html
There’s nothing Freudian about this man’s sharing of his true intentions. He let’s it all hang out.
Not that I wish to appear uninformed, but could anyone tell me what “AR4” and “TAR” are? Lord, I hate people who use TLA’s without spelling them out at least once.
may a thousand rickshaws roll over moe,
Schwarze Tulpe at January 7, 2008 6:11 PM,
Thanks a tonne for the quotations from Chairman Mo. You`ve given me my daily barf for the next month or so.
KevinB
TAR = third assesment report
AR4 = fourth assessment report
(IPCC reports)
Why the fourth assessment report couldn’t be called FAR or the third AR3 is beyond me. I suspect it’s the usual bureaucratese trick of inventing acronyms so that outsiders don’t know what you’re talking about.
Schwarze Tulpe said:
“There’s nothing Freudian about this man’s sharing of his true intentions. He let’s it all hang out.”
I did not intend to diminish the threat to our freedom, sovereignty and standard of living that pompous, malignant (and I’m sure psychotic/sociopathic) transnational ruling class narcissists like Strong present.
As it stands, since the UN charter was signed by the free western nations in 1945, the individual sovereignty (popular will) of the people in free democratic constitutional nations, has been sold out to subjugation by NGOs and transnational think tanks working through UN “treaties/accords” to undermine the absolution of the ratified public mandates free representative democracies.
After 1945 unaccountable exclusive policy making institutions like the RIIA (and their commonwealth clones) and the CFR , Club of Rome, UN committees etc. dictated the policy agendas to the leaders of democratic party systems. This essentially put an unelected transnational ruling class back in charge to drive forward their own agendas (the hell with vox populi). This was the dawning of the era of “global governance” and it was headed by international “committees” of unelected monied elites and their NGOs…..the very people the hippies of the sixties despised ( a transnational power elite) are firmly in control of global policy propagation today by the funding of the NGOs who drive the agendas which advance transnational feudalism (a synthesis of corporatism and soviet population control systems)….additionally, the offspring leftoid movements of the “freedom” revolution of the 60s has been totally indoctrinated into being the “useful idiots” of these globalist councils…or as Strong’s contemporaries would say; “some of these useless eaters can at least make useful idiots.” – (Committee of 300)
This is why I laugh sardonically at the leftbots that surf Gore’s green butt…Gore is a product of a huge oil oligarchy ( Hammer/Occidental) and in his political career he’s been striking out on his own as a “progressive capitalist” with his environmental hysteria and corporate solutions..he may be manipulative and treacherous but he’s focused on selling us out to global corporatism as part of a business plan…Moe Strong OTOH is a rank loon… He sat on the UN committee for “global governance” and lives and breaths for the day when the UN can implement soviet governing systems on a global scale…Moe is the “synthesis man” an amalgam of corporate Marxism…anyone who would take policy direction from him is as barking mad as he is:
“Licences to have babies incidentally is something that I got in trouble for some years ago for suggesting even in Canada that this might be necessary at some point, at least some restriction on the right to have a child.” – Maurice Strong
“I am a socialist in ideology, a capitalist in methodology.” – Maurice Strong
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring about? .” – Maurice Strong
“We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrial civilization to collapse.” – Maurice Strong
” It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class — involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work-place air-conditioning, and suburban housing — are not sustainable. A legislated shift is necessary toward lifestyles”
– Maurice Strong
DUMB INSIGNIFICANT GREENS IM COMMING TO TAKE A DUMP ON YOU PLANET OF GREEN WUSSIE TARDS BEWARE BEWARE SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK
[quote]additionally, the offspring leftoid movements of the “freedom” revolution of the 60s has been totally indoctrinated into being the “useful idiots” of these globalist councils…or as Strong’s contemporaries would say; “some of these useless eaters can at least make useful idiots.” [/quote]
I could tell some very humorous stories of how the Republicans countered those useful Idiots, but that would give the Socialists a heads-up on what may be in their future.
WL Mackenzie,
I could tell some very humorous stories of how the Republicans countered those “useful Idiots”, but that would give the Socialists a heads-up on what may be in their future.
It would help if we re-defined Communism & Treason so that the “Useful Idiots” & their handlers had a clear boundary