89 Replies to “David Suzuki: International Man Of Irony”
Let’s play a game. I posted the following at the site and it’s being held for approval by the moderator. Shall we see if it gets approved?
“Actually, it was a very simple rhetorical device that he used, and anyone who can’t understand it, or finds it awkward like our esteemed CBC employee, needs to brush up on their reading skills.”
I like, too, the blurb about the magazine by Margaret Atwood in the top right corner:
“THIS MAGAZINE IS WHAT JOURNALISM IS SUPPOSED TO BE
SMART, BRAVE, RELEVANT”
Smart? Clearly not.
But what’s this about being brave? Does that refer to the risk of papercuts in the office? Crossing the street when they go out for coffee?
Oh my, my, my. They are slow, aren’t they.
“Sure, he was his usual stumbling self, but he didn’t say or infer that Nelson Mandela is actually dead.
I know this because I work for CBC news and had to listen to the whole speech.”
From the “comments” at “THIS” magazine.Even someone from the CBC knows this is a non story. He or she should be fired promptly.
It’s so rich – like chocolate topped with whipcream, smothered in high fructose corn syrup, sprinkled with pure cane sugar.
Being too ignorant to grasp the not so subtle point Bush was making, they assume Bush is the idiot.
There’s not much irony in any of them, but devotees of jaw dropping absurdities might get some amusement out of This Magazine‘s list of 40 Ideas We Need Now. Whew. Evidently they can’t make priorities, either.
That’s an old one…the yank bloggers have been over this one for a while now – Bush was asked where all the non-violent mandela-types were in Iraq these days and he stated that there were non because saddam had killed them all. The left, including the msm, were eager to seize on something that could be made into another Bush-ism, and so they framed it as Bush thinking Nelson Mandela was dead.
Canadian leftists, being always one step behind, are only discovering it now I see….
That Dubbya used an obvious metaphor to make a point that the oh-so literate and smart left was unable to catch is too sweet.
Talk a about a bush-derangement syndrome therapy set-back.
Didn’t this get dealt with in September? Why TF are you dragging out again, Kate? Slow day?
OMG: Suzuki and Atwood together. ‘Too much old, fusty, over-rated Canadiana to take in.
Click. Next thread, please.
“Didn’t this get dealt with in September? Why TF are you dragging out again, Kate? Slow day?”
Because no day is a bad day to mock David Suzuki.
But to your point – if you check the domain name, you’ll discover this is my personal blog site. It’s not an aggregator or news service, and I pretty much post whatever I damned well please. The day that ceases to be the case, is the day I pull the plug. I don’t blog to meet your or anyone else’s expectations. NEVER forget that.
Ha — I never saw it — thanks Kate…amuzing
“OMG: Suzuki and Atwood together. ‘Too much old, fusty, over-rated Canadiana to take in.
Posted by: ‘been around the block at December 2, 2007 1:48 PM”
And if you checked with GDW’s(1:26pm) list you would have encountered more, such as Judy Rebick, Maude Barlow, Murray Dobbin, Jim Stanford, and many others whose names (thankfully) I have not encoutered often enough to remember. Note to family: not a subscription I want to find in my Christmas stocking.
My guess is this also got rehashed because of the Suzuki ad at the top. The ad seems to change, no matter what the day of the archived story is. To ‘catch’ the article with Suzuki’s ironic statement is the reason to again flog those too ignorant to comprehend Bush’s message.
I had a look at the 40 hackneyed propaganda pieces—billed as “40 Ideas We Need Now”—at THIS magazine. I’m altogether unimpressed by the juvenile, bigoted opinions about Christianity and religion, in general—equivalency, of course—I see there. E.g., Here’s what Gerald Hannon, an open advocate of man-boy sex—he was fired by Ryerson for his outspokenness on this issue—has to say:
“Age of consent
“GERALD HANNON
“Our Tory government is intent on raising the age of consent for sexual activity from 14 to 16—with a close-in-age exemption (for those few teens not interested in doing it with older guys and gals), while still keeping anal sex illegal for anyone under 18. They’re on to something. But they’re not going far enough. Given the by now well-established dangers of religious fervour, an age of consent for church/mosque/synagogue/temple attendance seems merely sensible. I’d make it 18. Same as smoking.
“Gerald Hannon freelances body [I believe he’s also been, maybe still is, a male prostitute], mind and voice in Toronto.”
I wonder what Mr. Hannon would think of the fact that, among other things, the “project” boys I teach receive help with their homework and are beautifully dressed and have warm boots and upscale winter jackets because of the Christian mission in their housing project.
These leftists are such dogs in the manger. What utter hypocrites! They disgust me.
Where is Soozooki*s to-do list?
Oh, of course, artsy-fartsy fruitflies never stoop to the clear cut practical level. = TG
GDW,
I followed the link in your comment above and read it though. Read my mind for what I think of most of those touchy feely loons and their view of life on Earth.
The one bit that had me twitching more than Clouseau’s nemesis Chief Inspector Dreyfus was this excerpt from Moira Farr …
——————————————- “Well, you may say I’m a dreamer, but apparently I’m not the only one. Our prime minister may be an evangelical Christian, but he is in a decided Canadian minority. What does Statscan identify as the fastest-growing religious affiliation in Canada? No religion. You heard it here first. And over to my favourite social soothsayer, the Google Search Indicator:
Christianity: 60 million “results”
Judaism: 22 million
Islam: 123 million
No Religion (Too): 194 million
Imagine … the triumph of reason in the 21st century … it’s easy if you try. Now that she is aware that “running dogs of capitalism” is not on the This Forbidden Words list, Moira Farr hopes to slip it into an article soon.”
——————————————–
I seems that poor Moira thinks Canada has a population of 399 million. But why let facts get in the way of a good feeling?
Loved the John Lennon references in there as well.
And Moira, after you have managed to slip this stupidity into an article … you go slip back into a coma where you will be more comfortable and more useful.
Bush is a focussed leader with his eye on the ball. Whether Mandella is dead or alive simply has no relevance to current business.
Details..details.. Spare me.= TG
Its sad when old environmentalists go senile.
The science is settled and I will no longer debate it Suzuki is embarrassing himself.
He should quit before he completely undoes everything he ever accomplished.
*[This Magazine receives financial support from the Canada Council for the Arts and the Ontario Arts Council. We acknowledge the financial support of the Government of Canada through the Publication Assistance Program and the Canada Magazine Fund.} *At the bottom of it’s home page
We are all paying for Suzuki’s and others’ propaganda. When will it stop !!??
they arent stupid kate.they are mean nasty and malicious with an all consuming hatred of all things american and bush.Its ok though because we understand where they come from and the fact that this kind of thinking is counter productive .
I guess they killed the Fruit fly and his ironic commentary because when I went to view the page I was assailed by that mug of that Gorgon from the handmaiden’s wail…what gives? You copped a screen shot I take it.
“E.g., Here’s what Gerald Hannon, an open advocate of man-boy sex—he was fired by Ryerson for his outspokenness on this issue—has to say:”
You mean there are actually some moonbats so loony that they are not welcome at Ryerson? Will wonders never cease!
Moira’s stats are nothing to gloat over. ‘Might explain the state of the international mess Planet Earth is mired in at the moment.
I’m with lookout. Check out who’s feeding the hungry, who’s providing Christmas baskets and presents to the needy. And, BTW, you don’t have to be a Christian to be the recipients of Christmas cheer.
I don’t see Muslims handing out goodies to non-Muslims on their days of celebration, or coming to the rescue of non-Muslims caught in a natural disaster.
I don’t see atheists handing out hampers of food, clothing, and presents at the projects, or anywhere, for that matter. Show me their setup. Show me their warehouses and their hard-working “elves” whose only intention is to clothe, feed, and otherwise assist the needy.
Show me, Moira. Help me, Moira. I don’t understand your mindless, groundless, gloating.
And, thanks for the headsup, felis corpulentis, on Judy Rebick, Maude Barlow, Murray Dobbin, Jim Stanford.
Quick, pass me my smelling salts. It’s just too much dusty, scratchy irrelevance up my nose.
Couldn’t someone put these guys in mothballs? Pleeze?
David Suzuki is an oid of another kind.
Eliminate the tax exemption for the Suzuki Foundation.
Yo, djb – you been “KATED”!!! Your a$$ must be some sore!
Suzuki is a classic case history of how fast a person of note can slide down hill, go into decline.
He had some credibility when he was doing Nature of Things and fruit fly doc. Then he moved on down to posing nude except for a fig leaf covering his willy, then the sex lives of monkeys or some such excitement. Now he’s acting like a total jackass, insulting people on his way down.
If he has a scientific bent he should realize he has one opinion, there are others,certainly more shades of gray as opposed to black and white.
I think that Adrian has it almost right “they arent stupid kate.they are mean nasty and malicious with an all consuming hatred of all things american and bush.”
I think they hate Canada too and now that I look at them more closely and talk to them on occasion, I find them quite hate filled, unhappy and uncomfortable in their own skins.
And no I don’t pity them, I regard them as my enemy.
John West: I seems that poor Moira thinks Canada has a population of 399 million. But why let facts get in the way of a good feeling?
Um, no she doesn’t. Her figures refer to the number of results returned from Google searches of each religious “keyword,” not the number of Canadians practising those religions.
“Couldn’t someone put these guys in mothballs? Pleeze?
Posted by: ‘been around the block at December 2, 2007 3:16 PM”
A consummation devoutly to be wishd, batb. But it’s up to all of us. We have freedom of speech in this country, and we wouldn’t want it any other way. Also it helps us to identify the wackjobs. They can parrot their dusty, scratchy irrelevance or, worse, their deconstruction of Canadian values all they want, but we don’t have to listen. We should not subscribe to magazines like this, we should encourage young people to avoid the nutty professors, or the wholesale nutty institutions, we should blackball media outlets that are obviously encouraging this crap, and so on, until the lunatics are finally preaching only to the asylum.
Murray Dobbin: the dolt who, in the same sloppy op-ed piece in January, 2006, at once excoriated the Liberals for being just another right wing party and then claimed “Canada is a left wing country” because only 36% voted CPC in the last election. (Dammit, I just ignored my own advice!)
Well put Kate… djb. he be the grass, Kate she be the lawnmower.
selmer – I disagree. Moira’s figures were intended to substantiate her claim that the “fastest growing religious affiliation in Canada” is ‘no religion’.
She informed us of this conclusion and then, immediately provided us with a data base showing that, indeed, the largest population base was ‘no religion’.
She did not inform us that these numbers had no relevance to Canada. Why did she provide these numbers except to support her claim?
She didn’t, after all, have any other claim to make – other than ‘the fastest growing religious affiliation in Canada= no religion’.
Good to see the Anglosphere connecting – Canadian, US, Uk and Ozzie sites referencing each other. We must bring India into the fold to solidify the Anglosphere.
Anyone any good Indian blog sites?
‘been around the block: Check out who’s feeding the hungry, who’s providing Christmas baskets and presents to the needy…I don’t see Muslims handing out goodies to non-Muslims on their days of celebration, or coming to the rescue of non-Muslims caught in a natural disaster…I don’t see atheists handing out hampers of food, clothing, and presents at the projects, or anywhere, for that matter. Show me their setup. Show me their warehouses and their hard-working “elves” whose only intention is to clothe, feed, and otherwise assist the needy.
As a small and non-exhaustive sample of both religious and secular/non-affiliated groups ranging from the local to the global, how about Interval House, Casey House, the Canadian Association of Food Banks, Médecins Sans Frontières, CARE International, the Aga Khan Development Network, and the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies?
This is not to deny myriad ways in which Christians are very actively involved in helping the world’s less fortunate. But pitting one religious group against another, and implying that one is more generous and compassionate than the other, is arrogant and offensive, not to mention demonstrably false, as the above organizations attest.
Charity is indeed an inspiring element of the Christian faith, BATB. So is humility.
This magazine, courtesy of your tax dollars:
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Since when could charities be political?
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ET: selmer – I disagree…
To recap, ET: John West claimed that Moira thought that Canada’s population was 399 million, based on a misreading of statistics presented in her contribution to the This magazine article. I simply pointed out that Moira’s numbers weren’t referring to the Canadian population at all. I said nothing about the validity of her argument that “no religion” is the fastest growing religious affiliation in the country. So exactly what part of my comment to John are you disagreeing with?
If you go to stats canada, and compare the two census years of 1991 and 2001, the fastest growing religion is not ‘no religion’, but Muslim.
The Muslim percentage was 0.9% in 1991 and 2% in 2001. That’s an increase of 128%.
No religion, on the other hand, was 12.3% in 1991 and 16.2 in 2001. An increase of 43.9%.
The majority were Roman Catholic/Protestant, making up about 72% of the Canadian population.
So, if Moira wants to substantiate her claim that ‘no religion’ is the fastest growing ‘religion’ in Canada (rather than Muslim), it’s wise to use relevant data.
selmer, “implying that one is more generous and compassionate than the other, is arrogant and offensive, not to mention demonstrably false, as the above organizations attest.”
Please put a lid on it.
I guess you’re saying, like a good little Canadian whose been brainwashed by the equivalency myth, that it just won’t do to say that one group is actually better than another, despite evidence to the contrary.
Well, selmer, some groups are, in fact, more generous and compassionate than others and that’s a fact. I’m not “pitting” any religion “against” any other. I’m stating a fact about Christianity: Christian organizations far and away provide more help to people in need than any other religious group–especially when taking into account the non-Christians they help. Other religion groups help others, it’s true, but it tends to be their co-religionists that they help, not those of other faiths.
BTW, none of the groups you’ve mentioned above are “atheist” and, I would wager, a goodly number of the people who volunteer their time, treasure, and talent to these secular charities are people of faith. In fact, statistics about who, exactly, give most generously to charity are people of faith.
If you can, show me Muslim groups or any other religious/faith groups that give financial, food, medical, and other help to those in need who are not part of their religion/faith.
selmer, john west’s criticism wasn’t simply a comment on Moira’s answer to the question: What is the size of the Canadian population.
It was a comment that IF you accepted her data base of numbers, to substantiate her claim that the fastest growing ‘religion’ in Canada is ‘no religion’, THEN, you also derive an incorrect response to the size of the Canadian population.
Moira was providing us with a conclusion (fastest growing religion in Canada) and giving us the data base as proof. Problem – if you add up those numbers, they exceed the population of Canada, so, there must be a problem with the numbers.
Why, why, would she offer us a google result of totally irrelevant statistics?
And, selmer, another thing: What I said isn’t about arrogance vs humility. It’s about facts.
Sorry if you can’t either accept or handle demonstrable truths; ‘seems to be an occupational hazard of being a product of Canada’s multi-culti, equivalency, brainwashing, conveyer-belt form of “education.”
‘Sucks to live in Alice’s Wonderland. ‘Sucks to have taken a get small pill to get down that hole.
100% of 1 is 1, 1% of a million is ten thousand. Percentage growth is not an accurate measurement when looking at growth of religions and non-religions it is a way for losers to feel good about their belief system.
Suzuki is a fool, and there is nothing like an old fool.
I’ve read that Muslims only donate to Muslims in need…..just what I have read – don’t shoot the messenger.
ET: selmer, john west’s criticism wasn’t simply a comment on Moira’s answer to the question: What is the size of the Canadian population.
[Sigh] But my comment to John West was specific to his (erroneous) point about the size of the Canadian population. I wasn’t taking issue with anything else that he stated in his comment.
You can critique Moira’s larger argument all you like. I truly could not care less about trying to defending it (indeed, not once did I try to). But your beef is directly with her. I still don’t understand why you addressed your 3:55PM comment to me.
selmer (sigh) – because there was absolutely no point to your critique of john west’s comment about the size of the Canadian population UNLESS you also considered the relevance of Moira’s statistics (sigh). Which you didn’t (sigh).
“But pitting one religious group against another, and implying that one is more generous and compassionate than the other, is arrogant and offensive, not to mention demonstrably false, as the above organizations attest.”
Another moonbat who expresses an opinion without a shred of evidence.
Muslim charity is called zakat. Islam gives monetary confiscation a politically correct veneer by calling it charity, the giving of alms. It’s one of their five pillars which they always harp about, as if it proves good deeds. However, their charity can only be given to Muslims. Kaffir are subhuman and are therefore not worthy.
In fact, most Muslims in need aren’t helped either. Who helped Indonesia after the Tsunami? Not Muslims. How about Sudan? Once again, not Muslims.
They deceptively use charity to finance terrorism. That’s what the Holy Land Foundation (a charity front for Hamas) court case in Texas was about. Which included the unindited Hamas co-conspirators, CAIR. That’s why the US is constantly tracking Muslim ‘charities.’ Because they have mostly proven to be nothing more than terrorist financing fronts.
You’re new, Selmer. Hopefully you’re learning that unsubstantiated leftard opinion based on nothing more than feelings gets shredded around here.
‘been around the block: Well, selmer, some groups are, in fact, more generous and compassionate than others and that’s a fact.
Are you really sure you want to go down that road, BATB? Do you really want to get into a pissing match about which group is more compassionate based on the size of their…donations? Do you really want to use those sorts of statistics as the basis to make sweeping morally-tinged conclusions about the relative capacities of different groups to care about others?
I mean, we can go there if you want. But I just want to be absolutely sure. Because if those are indeed the parameters that you want to work from, and I were then able to dig up some evidence showing that, say, Hispanics and African-Americans are more charitable than whites, what sort of conclusions might we draw from that? Personally, I’d be very reluctant to make any generalizations at all, but according to your rules, maybe we could.
John West, if you’re out there and so inclined, please address ET directly about you thought you meant when you wrote, “[It] seems that poor Moira thinks Canada has a population of 399 million.” She is otherwise incorrigible.
For the record, I think yours was a simple and understandable error. Also, I’d agree with you that Moira’s broader argument is deeply flawed.
John West, if you’re out there and so inclined, please address ET directly about what you thought you meant when you wrote, “[It] seems that poor Moira thinks Canada has a population of 399 million.” She is otherwise incorrigible.
For the record, I think yours was a simple and understandable error. Also, I’d agree with you that Moira’s broader argument is deeply flawed.
This is how it works with commies: you are not a commie, thus they cannot like you. Thus, you are stupid and do not get it.’ Simple is like simpleton does.
Let’s play a game. I posted the following at the site and it’s being held for approval by the moderator. Shall we see if it gets approved?
“Actually, it was a very simple rhetorical device that he used, and anyone who can’t understand it, or finds it awkward like our esteemed CBC employee, needs to brush up on their reading skills.”
I like, too, the blurb about the magazine by Margaret Atwood in the top right corner:
“THIS MAGAZINE IS WHAT JOURNALISM IS SUPPOSED TO BE
SMART, BRAVE, RELEVANT”
Smart? Clearly not.
But what’s this about being brave? Does that refer to the risk of papercuts in the office? Crossing the street when they go out for coffee?
Oh my, my, my. They are slow, aren’t they.
“Sure, he was his usual stumbling self, but he didn’t say or infer that Nelson Mandela is actually dead.
I know this because I work for CBC news and had to listen to the whole speech.”
From the “comments” at “THIS” magazine.Even someone from the CBC knows this is a non story. He or she should be fired promptly.
It’s so rich – like chocolate topped with whipcream, smothered in high fructose corn syrup, sprinkled with pure cane sugar.
Being too ignorant to grasp the not so subtle point Bush was making, they assume Bush is the idiot.
There’s not much irony in any of them, but devotees of jaw dropping absurdities might get some amusement out of This Magazine‘s list of 40 Ideas We Need Now. Whew. Evidently they can’t make priorities, either.
That’s an old one…the yank bloggers have been over this one for a while now – Bush was asked where all the non-violent mandela-types were in Iraq these days and he stated that there were non because saddam had killed them all. The left, including the msm, were eager to seize on something that could be made into another Bush-ism, and so they framed it as Bush thinking Nelson Mandela was dead.
Canadian leftists, being always one step behind, are only discovering it now I see….
That Dubbya used an obvious metaphor to make a point that the oh-so literate and smart left was unable to catch is too sweet.
Talk a about a bush-derangement syndrome therapy set-back.
Didn’t this get dealt with in September? Why TF are you dragging out again, Kate? Slow day?
OMG: Suzuki and Atwood together. ‘Too much old, fusty, over-rated Canadiana to take in.
Click. Next thread, please.
“Didn’t this get dealt with in September? Why TF are you dragging out again, Kate? Slow day?”
Because no day is a bad day to mock David Suzuki.
But to your point – if you check the domain name, you’ll discover this is my personal blog site. It’s not an aggregator or news service, and I pretty much post whatever I damned well please. The day that ceases to be the case, is the day I pull the plug. I don’t blog to meet your or anyone else’s expectations.
NEVER forget that.
Ha — I never saw it — thanks Kate…amuzing
“OMG: Suzuki and Atwood together. ‘Too much old, fusty, over-rated Canadiana to take in.
Posted by: ‘been around the block at December 2, 2007 1:48 PM”
And if you checked with GDW’s(1:26pm) list you would have encountered more, such as Judy Rebick, Maude Barlow, Murray Dobbin, Jim Stanford, and many others whose names (thankfully) I have not encoutered often enough to remember. Note to family: not a subscription I want to find in my Christmas stocking.
My guess is this also got rehashed because of the Suzuki ad at the top. The ad seems to change, no matter what the day of the archived story is. To ‘catch’ the article with Suzuki’s ironic statement is the reason to again flog those too ignorant to comprehend Bush’s message.
I had a look at the 40 hackneyed propaganda pieces—billed as “40 Ideas We Need Now”—at THIS magazine. I’m altogether unimpressed by the juvenile, bigoted opinions about Christianity and religion, in general—equivalency, of course—I see there. E.g., Here’s what Gerald Hannon, an open advocate of man-boy sex—he was fired by Ryerson for his outspokenness on this issue—has to say:
“Age of consent
“GERALD HANNON
“Our Tory government is intent on raising the age of consent for sexual activity from 14 to 16—with a close-in-age exemption (for those few teens not interested in doing it with older guys and gals), while still keeping anal sex illegal for anyone under 18. They’re on to something. But they’re not going far enough. Given the by now well-established dangers of religious fervour, an age of consent for church/mosque/synagogue/temple attendance seems merely sensible. I’d make it 18. Same as smoking.
“Gerald Hannon freelances body [I believe he’s also been, maybe still is, a male prostitute], mind and voice in Toronto.”
I wonder what Mr. Hannon would think of the fact that, among other things, the “project” boys I teach receive help with their homework and are beautifully dressed and have warm boots and upscale winter jackets because of the Christian mission in their housing project.
These leftists are such dogs in the manger. What utter hypocrites! They disgust me.
Where is Soozooki*s to-do list?
Oh, of course, artsy-fartsy fruitflies never stoop to the clear cut practical level. = TG
GDW,
I followed the link in your comment above and read it though. Read my mind for what I think of most of those touchy feely loons and their view of life on Earth.
The one bit that had me twitching more than Clouseau’s nemesis Chief Inspector Dreyfus was this excerpt from Moira Farr …
——————————————-
“Well, you may say I’m a dreamer, but apparently I’m not the only one. Our prime minister may be an evangelical Christian, but he is in a decided Canadian minority. What does Statscan identify as the fastest-growing religious affiliation in Canada? No religion. You heard it here first. And over to my favourite social soothsayer, the Google Search Indicator:
Christianity: 60 million “results”
Judaism: 22 million
Islam: 123 million
No Religion (Too): 194 million
Imagine … the triumph of reason in the 21st century … it’s easy if you try.
Now that she is aware that “running dogs of capitalism” is not on the This Forbidden Words list, Moira Farr hopes to slip it into an article soon.”
——————————————–
I seems that poor Moira thinks Canada has a population of 399 million. But why let facts get in the way of a good feeling?
Loved the John Lennon references in there as well.
And Moira, after you have managed to slip this stupidity into an article … you go slip back into a coma where you will be more comfortable and more useful.
Bush is a focussed leader with his eye on the ball. Whether Mandella is dead or alive simply has no relevance to current business.
Details..details.. Spare me.= TG
Its sad when old environmentalists go senile.
The science is settled and I will no longer debate it Suzuki is embarrassing himself.
He should quit before he completely undoes everything he ever accomplished.
*[This Magazine receives financial support from the Canada Council for the Arts and the Ontario Arts Council. We acknowledge the financial support of the Government of Canada through the Publication Assistance Program and the Canada Magazine Fund.} *At the bottom of it’s home page
We are all paying for Suzuki’s and others’ propaganda. When will it stop !!??
they arent stupid kate.they are mean nasty and malicious with an all consuming hatred of all things american and bush.Its ok though because we understand where they come from and the fact that this kind of thinking is counter productive .
I guess they killed the Fruit fly and his ironic commentary because when I went to view the page I was assailed by that mug of that Gorgon from the handmaiden’s wail…what gives? You copped a screen shot I take it.
“E.g., Here’s what Gerald Hannon, an open advocate of man-boy sex—he was fired by Ryerson for his outspokenness on this issue—has to say:”
You mean there are actually some moonbats so loony that they are not welcome at Ryerson? Will wonders never cease!
Moira’s stats are nothing to gloat over. ‘Might explain the state of the international mess Planet Earth is mired in at the moment.
I’m with lookout. Check out who’s feeding the hungry, who’s providing Christmas baskets and presents to the needy. And, BTW, you don’t have to be a Christian to be the recipients of Christmas cheer.
I don’t see Muslims handing out goodies to non-Muslims on their days of celebration, or coming to the rescue of non-Muslims caught in a natural disaster.
I don’t see atheists handing out hampers of food, clothing, and presents at the projects, or anywhere, for that matter. Show me their setup. Show me their warehouses and their hard-working “elves” whose only intention is to clothe, feed, and otherwise assist the needy.
Show me, Moira. Help me, Moira. I don’t understand your mindless, groundless, gloating.
And, thanks for the headsup, felis corpulentis, on Judy Rebick, Maude Barlow, Murray Dobbin, Jim Stanford.
Quick, pass me my smelling salts. It’s just too much dusty, scratchy irrelevance up my nose.
Couldn’t someone put these guys in mothballs? Pleeze?
David Suzuki is an oid of another kind.
Eliminate the tax exemption for the Suzuki Foundation.
Yo, djb – you been “KATED”!!! Your a$$ must be some sore!
Suzuki is a classic case history of how fast a person of note can slide down hill, go into decline.
He had some credibility when he was doing Nature of Things and fruit fly doc. Then he moved on down to posing nude except for a fig leaf covering his willy, then the sex lives of monkeys or some such excitement. Now he’s acting like a total jackass, insulting people on his way down.
If he has a scientific bent he should realize he has one opinion, there are others,certainly more shades of gray as opposed to black and white.
I think that Adrian has it almost right “they arent stupid kate.they are mean nasty and malicious with an all consuming hatred of all things american and bush.”
I think they hate Canada too and now that I look at them more closely and talk to them on occasion, I find them quite hate filled, unhappy and uncomfortable in their own skins.
And no I don’t pity them, I regard them as my enemy.
John West: I seems that poor Moira thinks Canada has a population of 399 million. But why let facts get in the way of a good feeling?
Um, no she doesn’t. Her figures refer to the number of results returned from Google searches of each religious “keyword,” not the number of Canadians practising those religions.
“Couldn’t someone put these guys in mothballs? Pleeze?
Posted by: ‘been around the block at December 2, 2007 3:16 PM”
A consummation devoutly to be wishd, batb. But it’s up to all of us. We have freedom of speech in this country, and we wouldn’t want it any other way. Also it helps us to identify the wackjobs. They can parrot their dusty, scratchy irrelevance or, worse, their deconstruction of Canadian values all they want, but we don’t have to listen. We should not subscribe to magazines like this, we should encourage young people to avoid the nutty professors, or the wholesale nutty institutions, we should blackball media outlets that are obviously encouraging this crap, and so on, until the lunatics are finally preaching only to the asylum.
Murray Dobbin: the dolt who, in the same sloppy op-ed piece in January, 2006, at once excoriated the Liberals for being just another right wing party and then claimed “Canada is a left wing country” because only 36% voted CPC in the last election. (Dammit, I just ignored my own advice!)
Well put Kate… djb. he be the grass, Kate she be the lawnmower.
selmer – I disagree. Moira’s figures were intended to substantiate her claim that the “fastest growing religious affiliation in Canada” is ‘no religion’.
She informed us of this conclusion and then, immediately provided us with a data base showing that, indeed, the largest population base was ‘no religion’.
She did not inform us that these numbers had no relevance to Canada. Why did she provide these numbers except to support her claim?
She didn’t, after all, have any other claim to make – other than ‘the fastest growing religious affiliation in Canada= no religion’.
Good to see the Anglosphere connecting – Canadian, US, Uk and Ozzie sites referencing each other. We must bring India into the fold to solidify the Anglosphere.
Anyone any good Indian blog sites?
‘been around the block: Check out who’s feeding the hungry, who’s providing Christmas baskets and presents to the needy…I don’t see Muslims handing out goodies to non-Muslims on their days of celebration, or coming to the rescue of non-Muslims caught in a natural disaster…I don’t see atheists handing out hampers of food, clothing, and presents at the projects, or anywhere, for that matter. Show me their setup. Show me their warehouses and their hard-working “elves” whose only intention is to clothe, feed, and otherwise assist the needy.
As a small and non-exhaustive sample of both religious and secular/non-affiliated groups ranging from the local to the global, how about Interval House, Casey House, the Canadian Association of Food Banks, Médecins Sans Frontières, CARE International, the Aga Khan Development Network, and the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies?
This is not to deny myriad ways in which Christians are very actively involved in helping the world’s less fortunate. But pitting one religious group against another, and implying that one is more generous and compassionate than the other, is arrogant and offensive, not to mention demonstrably false, as the above organizations attest.
Charity is indeed an inspiring element of the Christian faith, BATB. So is humility.
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ET: selmer – I disagree…
To recap, ET: John West claimed that Moira thought that Canada’s population was 399 million, based on a misreading of statistics presented in her contribution to the This magazine article. I simply pointed out that Moira’s numbers weren’t referring to the Canadian population at all. I said nothing about the validity of her argument that “no religion” is the fastest growing religious affiliation in the country. So exactly what part of my comment to John are you disagreeing with?
If you go to stats canada, and compare the two census years of 1991 and 2001, the fastest growing religion is not ‘no religion’, but Muslim.
The Muslim percentage was 0.9% in 1991 and 2% in 2001. That’s an increase of 128%.
No religion, on the other hand, was 12.3% in 1991 and 16.2 in 2001. An increase of 43.9%.
The majority were Roman Catholic/Protestant, making up about 72% of the Canadian population.
So, if Moira wants to substantiate her claim that ‘no religion’ is the fastest growing ‘religion’ in Canada (rather than Muslim), it’s wise to use relevant data.
selmer, “implying that one is more generous and compassionate than the other, is arrogant and offensive, not to mention demonstrably false, as the above organizations attest.”
Please put a lid on it.
I guess you’re saying, like a good little Canadian whose been brainwashed by the equivalency myth, that it just won’t do to say that one group is actually better than another, despite evidence to the contrary.
Well, selmer, some groups are, in fact, more generous and compassionate than others and that’s a fact. I’m not “pitting” any religion “against” any other. I’m stating a fact about Christianity: Christian organizations far and away provide more help to people in need than any other religious group–especially when taking into account the non-Christians they help. Other religion groups help others, it’s true, but it tends to be their co-religionists that they help, not those of other faiths.
BTW, none of the groups you’ve mentioned above are “atheist” and, I would wager, a goodly number of the people who volunteer their time, treasure, and talent to these secular charities are people of faith. In fact, statistics about who, exactly, give most generously to charity are people of faith.
If you can, show me Muslim groups or any other religious/faith groups that give financial, food, medical, and other help to those in need who are not part of their religion/faith.
selmer, john west’s criticism wasn’t simply a comment on Moira’s answer to the question: What is the size of the Canadian population.
It was a comment that IF you accepted her data base of numbers, to substantiate her claim that the fastest growing ‘religion’ in Canada is ‘no religion’, THEN, you also derive an incorrect response to the size of the Canadian population.
Moira was providing us with a conclusion (fastest growing religion in Canada) and giving us the data base as proof. Problem – if you add up those numbers, they exceed the population of Canada, so, there must be a problem with the numbers.
Why, why, would she offer us a google result of totally irrelevant statistics?
And, selmer, another thing: What I said isn’t about arrogance vs humility. It’s about facts.
Sorry if you can’t either accept or handle demonstrable truths; ‘seems to be an occupational hazard of being a product of Canada’s multi-culti, equivalency, brainwashing, conveyer-belt form of “education.”
‘Sucks to live in Alice’s Wonderland. ‘Sucks to have taken a get small pill to get down that hole.
100% of 1 is 1, 1% of a million is ten thousand. Percentage growth is not an accurate measurement when looking at growth of religions and non-religions it is a way for losers to feel good about their belief system.
Suzuki is a fool, and there is nothing like an old fool.
I’ve read that Muslims only donate to Muslims in need…..just what I have read – don’t shoot the messenger.
ET: selmer, john west’s criticism wasn’t simply a comment on Moira’s answer to the question: What is the size of the Canadian population.
[Sigh] But my comment to John West was specific to his (erroneous) point about the size of the Canadian population. I wasn’t taking issue with anything else that he stated in his comment.
You can critique Moira’s larger argument all you like. I truly could not care less about trying to defending it (indeed, not once did I try to). But your beef is directly with her. I still don’t understand why you addressed your 3:55PM comment to me.
selmer (sigh) – because there was absolutely no point to your critique of john west’s comment about the size of the Canadian population UNLESS you also considered the relevance of Moira’s statistics (sigh). Which you didn’t (sigh).
“But pitting one religious group against another, and implying that one is more generous and compassionate than the other, is arrogant and offensive, not to mention demonstrably false, as the above organizations attest.”
Another moonbat who expresses an opinion without a shred of evidence.
Muslim charity is called zakat. Islam gives monetary confiscation a politically correct veneer by calling it charity, the giving of alms. It’s one of their five pillars which they always harp about, as if it proves good deeds. However, their charity can only be given to Muslims. Kaffir are subhuman and are therefore not worthy.
In fact, most Muslims in need aren’t helped either. Who helped Indonesia after the Tsunami? Not Muslims. How about Sudan? Once again, not Muslims.
They deceptively use charity to finance terrorism. That’s what the Holy Land Foundation (a charity front for Hamas) court case in Texas was about. Which included the unindited Hamas co-conspirators, CAIR. That’s why the US is constantly tracking Muslim ‘charities.’ Because they have mostly proven to be nothing more than terrorist financing fronts.
You’re new, Selmer. Hopefully you’re learning that unsubstantiated leftard opinion based on nothing more than feelings gets shredded around here.
‘been around the block: Well, selmer, some groups are, in fact, more generous and compassionate than others and that’s a fact.
Are you really sure you want to go down that road, BATB? Do you really want to get into a pissing match about which group is more compassionate based on the size of their…donations? Do you really want to use those sorts of statistics as the basis to make sweeping morally-tinged conclusions about the relative capacities of different groups to care about others?
I mean, we can go there if you want. But I just want to be absolutely sure. Because if those are indeed the parameters that you want to work from, and I were then able to dig up some evidence showing that, say, Hispanics and African-Americans are more charitable than whites, what sort of conclusions might we draw from that? Personally, I’d be very reluctant to make any generalizations at all, but according to your rules, maybe we could.
John West, if you’re out there and so inclined, please address ET directly about you thought you meant when you wrote, “[It] seems that poor Moira thinks Canada has a population of 399 million.” She is otherwise incorrigible.
For the record, I think yours was a simple and understandable error. Also, I’d agree with you that Moira’s broader argument is deeply flawed.
John West, if you’re out there and so inclined, please address ET directly about what you thought you meant when you wrote, “[It] seems that poor Moira thinks Canada has a population of 399 million.” She is otherwise incorrigible.
For the record, I think yours was a simple and understandable error. Also, I’d agree with you that Moira’s broader argument is deeply flawed.
This is how it works with commies: you are not a commie, thus they cannot like you. Thus, you are stupid and do not get it.’ Simple is like simpleton does.