83 Replies to “Maybe It’s The French Passport….”

  2. Orlin, yes, he IS very important. He’s the next Prime Minister of Canada, and HE will fix all the destruction wrought by the Conservatives during their seemingly interminable reign.

  3. I think if you look closely through the water glass you can see something up his sleeve. I wonder what it is?

  4. Dion is surrendering because a Taliban operative (aka a member of the Parlimentary Press Gallery) aimed a canon at him. He needs a quick course on weapons. A Canon camera is only deadly to polititians if they fumble a football, lose their luggage or look like they are surrendering in front of a bunch of Canadian flags.

  5. I believe if you look closely through the water glass you can see something up his sleeve.
    I wonder what it is?

  6. Just so Gord. You will find that the peaceniks, pacifists and defeatists are firmly headquartered in Morontario and Queerbec too.
    I watch Stephanie Dion’s antics and I realize that I will never fight for Canada to defend homos like that, or the people that elected him. Nor will I ever take orders from them.
    I think that it is good that finally, some frogs have spilled their own blood in this conflict. It might make the rest of ’em think a little harder when Stephanie starts gobbling about retreats and throwing away all the gains that have been made at such terrible cost.

  7. Pte. Simon Longtin (died Aug. 19 near Kandahar, Afghanistan), Master Warrant Officer Mario Mercier and Master Cpl. Christian Duchesne (were killed when their armoured vehicle, on patrol in Kandahar province, struck a roadside improvised explosive device).
    These names sound French to me. Brave soldiers, and heroes, who died for CANADA. Those who infer they’re cowards should hang their heads in shame.
    And no, I’m not including you, “Minuteman”, as one who doesn’t give credit where it’s due. I understand your frustration with the media. I’m sure you understand my disgust towards those who would sit at home and call the bravery of these soldiers into question. I hope they aren’t calling themselves Conservatives. Because they aren’t.

  8. Gord Tulk : I am aware of the history of Verdun. I have been there and walked the fields. It is enough to make anyone a pacifist. When you drive to Verdun, you go down a road that is a vast cemetary as far as you can see and it seems to go on for miles. I can understand how this would change the French attitude to war, like Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a big attitude adjustment for the Japanese. But, sometimes you just have no option but to fight, and surrender is just not at option.

  9. So… any of you prize morons calling French Canadian soldiers cowards, or words to that effect, ever lifted a finger for your country? Shown the guts to actually join the armed forces? Of course not. Launching cheap insults from behind a keyboard is all you little twerps can do. It takes a real man to serve his country – and a yellow-bellied baby to insult him.
    Sunshines, I’ve been in the service 27 years, the first 11 of those as a VanDoo. I’ve known a lot of the guys over there for a long time. They’re as gutsy as they come – they’re part of one of the finest, toughest military force in the world: the Canadian Army. They much more gutsy than any of you sad sacks disparaging them.
    Do get some knowledge of history as well. The French were hardly an army to laugh at, historically. They showed as much bravery as anyone else. They too were beset by idiotic politicians (sound familiar?), and generals fighting the war before last. When it comes to WW2, there isn’t a country in the world at that time (1939-40) that could have resisted Hitler’s blitzkrieg. I’ll defy you to keep snapping like a bulldog when everything around you is going to shit and your superiors don’t have clue as to how to stop it. But of course, none of you “historians” ever experienced the world going to shit around your ears. For that, you’d have to get out of your parents’ basement.
    Now if you want to talk about French collaboration with the Nazis after their decisive defeat on the battlefield, that’s another story.

  10. Jimbo, I spent almost twenty years in the army in a variety of bases, units and branches. I am willing to give credit where it is due, but I do know what I am talking about with the demographics of the armed forces. To back up what someone posted about Ontario and Quebec soldiers, I can tell you that in ten years in the regular army I never met another soldier from Toronto. As a young platoon commander, more than half my platoon was from the maritimes and half of those were from Cape Breton. Not exactly representative of our diverse population. I don’t know what it is like now, but then the numbers were someone skewed by recruiting quotas, which allowed much higher numbers to be recruited from poorer regions.
    Back then, the forces were broken down into “anglophone units”, “francophone units”, and “national units”. The terms are pretty obvious. National units tended to be headquarters, and specialist units that we didn’t have enough of to designate special anglo and franco versions. “Francophone units usually had a good number of bilingual anglos in them to make up numbers. If you were a bilingual anglo you had a good chance of spending at least part of your career in a franco unit. As a unilingual anglo I spent two years in a francophone unit, (a part of NDHQ), which was pretty much a total waste of my and the crown’s time and money. Sometimes it worked the other way also, but not usually as often. I would hope that now we are in a war situation, the important things are treated with the diligence they deserve and the BS would go out the window.
    And to give credit where it is due the Van Doos are not the only ones their. I am sure that the 12ieme Regiment Blinde Du Canada, 5e Regiment D’artillerie Legere Du Canada,5 Régiment du genie de combat, 5e Batallion du service du Canada. etc etc etc are also there.

  11. I’m speechless and in awe at the staggering incongruity of reason Taliban Jack and the Dipwits show in this move.
    What dream world does he occupie where Canadian troops in a war zone are expected to take no casualties….and where oh where is is dignity as a Canadian and as a man to fold in to the enemies of Canada, freedom and democracy like a diaper-pissing infant.
    At one point I actually admired Jack for standing for principles he felt were worthey ( regardless of how wrong he was) but this move has me doubting his sanity and his citizenship, his humanity and his manhood.
    Get a grip Jack..not only is this a callow publicity stunt that betrays our military and our nation but it is a dumb political move.
    This is your last hurrah as a political leader. Your ass is on this one and and the chances of surviving the backlash are slim.

  12. Seems to me you have all missed the point of this entire exercise in propaganda!
    When our government opposition reacts to soldiers deaths in this way, they are giving the moslem/criminal/terrorists in Afghanistan exactly what they want. Make no mistake they are experts at propaganda. This is not an army against army war, this is a propaganda war.
    Now, when the MSM reports the stories in this way,it is more propaganda to keep the friction going between east and west Canadians! There is nothing that the SOCIALIST media fears more than to have Canadians united and patriotic from coast to coast.

  13. Let us see, the French citizen Dion is stating something, whatever… and red star is carrying the story and is not surprisingly in support of the French citizen’s statements. Is there something out of balance here? I think not.
    The ‘as far as you can get socialist/communist’ thinks that everything is bad. Is there something out of balanced there? I think not.
    That is what you may expect from the ‘deep’ thinkers.
    On the other hand, things go on as can be reasonably expected. Where shooting goes on, shit happens.
    It is sad that it happens at times to our guys, though this is not a child’s story, this is real life stuff, these things happen. Tomorrow may be your last day and you are not near a war.
    Of course it could be that Canada gets out of there and the French citizen and the socialist/communist will say that Harper screwed up.
    I suggest, let them throw up and get on with the business at hand.

  14. these are very good recrudment numbers, considering all canadian’s according to the msm are against the war. my son has joined as have some of his friend’s. At twenty it was his decion made without my input or his ndp supporting mother. If Dione and group get elected I could see our troop’s in combat with no air, arty , no bullet’s.that is these idot’s idea of fighting. let’s dump Quebec but keep the vandoo’s excelent men.

  15. When I served at CFB Gagtown, I frankly found most of the Vandoos I dealt with to be ill-disciplined and generally messier than soldiers from other units, with a pretty broad streak of anti-Anglo hostility. Many in that “famed” regiment knew that sh*t wouldn’t stick to them, and at the time events seemed to be proving them right – Vandoos have gotten away with a lot of things that would never have been permitted in other units (including other Franco units). A lot of the problems with the Airborne and Somalia were really vandoos problems. I don’t believe that it was a defect in the raw material (ie recruits) since the troops from 5 Régiment du genie de combat that I worked with were as good as any and better than most. Rather, there was an attitue of entitlement and political protection that permeated downwards from some of the senior officers.
    All of that said, combat is the ultimate crucible – the Taliban don’t care how much pull you think you have with the Liberal party, and neither do IEDs. I would imagine that any problems like the ones I described above will get sorted out pretty damn quickly, especially with the current CDS. I certainly hope so, because we need all the troops we can get (and then some).
    And before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, this is not questioning anyone’s bravery, but rather taking a hard look at the reputation of one of only three Reg Infantry regiemtns in Canada.

  16. Rather pathetic to question the bravery or heart of soldiers on operations because they are from Quebec. Shame on you.
    But this is just what the leftard media are trying to stir up. If they create enmity out of our traditional anglo/franco split in order to hinder Bushitlers automaton puppet baby killer Harper at the next election, it will have been worth it.

  19. If Dion were Prime Minister he would make sure all Canadian tanks have a rear view mirror. That way when he yells “withdraw”, Canadian troops would be able to see the battle.

  22. At the time of the Somolia incident Peter Worthington writing in the Sun newspapers echoed the sentiments of holdfast. His words were to the effect that this regiment command structure was out of control because the regiment was untouchable. It came from Quebec.

  23. holdfast: “All of that said, combat is the ultimate crucible”.
    I’ve never been in the military … I suspect there is enough sh*t to go around for all the members until the ultimate crucible.
    Then the ultimate crucible. I think everything is defined there … show time type of thing. I don’t really care about the political games that their command wants to play … games are typically played when there is nothing better to do. I support all of our troops.

  24. “How many Frenchmen would it take to defend Paris? Answer: I don’t know; it’s never been tried.”
    LOL !!!
    et tags it. the best humor has truth in the recipe.
    frenchie caved early for a number of reasons related to fear and fosslised strategies (maginot line). the wermacht walked into paris the decision having been made NOT to defend it and thus have it severely damaged. it took a couple weeks for the blitzkreig to trounce the biggest standing army on the continent.
    french are real good at small scale sabotage but their armed forces have never recovered WW I and esp WW II. indochina is further evidence.

  25. Jimbo, for goodness sakes give it a rest! Perhaps the vandoos are great warriors. – I hope so, and I will give them credit, in due time! But their lives are no more sacred than the soldiers originating in other parts of this once great country. Unfortunately, the media does not understand this fact.
    As for the fool in the picture, God help us if he ever does assume control of the Canadian military.
    I do fear that possibility. The vandoos could well become the ‘Home-guard’ whilst the rest of our military would be sent to those far-away places like East-Timor on our famously timed-out Hercs. You know the ones – They almost had to taxi to the South Asian Islands, where the ‘action’ was. Taxi because they could not take off due to the out-and-out NEGLECT practiced by the party of the S-O-B in the picture.
    Jimbo, get some rest.
    CRB

  26. “Loose lips sink ships”
    My own mother lived and breathed these words for years as she lived and worked in London as a telephone operator during the blitz.
    This was a generation that understood duty and sacrifice in the defence of one’s way of life.
    Today,when I see pampered politicians such as Dion and Layton cavalierly endangering our military personel by publicly DEMANDING we inform the Taliban of crucial timetable and withdrawl plans(for NOTHING more than political posturing)I am thouroughly and utterly DISGUSTED and SICKENED.
    TRAITEROUS C*CKSUCKERS!
    And almost as bad,our very own media,instead of sounding the alarm at this bizarre stupidity,cheer them on.
    TRAITEROUS C*CKSUCKERS!
    (I’m sorry,but,I found I could not express these thoughts in an unemotional manner.)
    Maybe it’s time for a new motto more apt to the times….
    “Self-righteous leftism aids radical Islamism.”

  27. In today`s (Aug 27) National Post, Lorne Gunter lays it on the Liberals re the casualties in Afganistan…Priceless!

  28. Re: “Jimbo, for goodness sakes give it a rest! Perhaps the vandoos are great warriors. – I hope so, and I will give them credit, in due time! But their lives are no more sacred than the soldiers originating in other parts of this once great country.”
    No more, and no less. In case you missed it, in other news, there was a funeral today. Try going to the story, and take a look at the young man’s picture. Maybe give some thought to his family, and to the other brave young men who stood beside him in Afghanistan. Show some respect.
    I see so many posts on this site about supporting the troops. I won’t stand by and see those soldiers contributions or memories be disparaged in any way.
    Pte. Simon Longtin was 23 years old – just a kid, like a lot of the soldiers from all parts of Canada. When I see posts like “I think that it is good that finally, some frogs have spilled their own blood in this conflict.” from Jim above, I get upset. Don’t you?
    Sorry, I can’t let that kind of thing go unchallenged.

  29. I expect the Vandoos are happy campers because they FINALLY get to go and do what they’ve been training their whole careers for. Real live bad guys to shoot at and stuff you can blow up. Hell, they even get vehicles younger than they are. Woo, and brand new TANKS to play with!
    Its like the friggin’ Olympics of Canadian soldiering. Bet your ass they want to be there.
    I wouldn’t want to be Layton or Dion left alone with that lot. Sharp words would be the least of it.
    Posted by: The Phantom at August 27, 2007 3:03 PM

    Probably.
    And yet in the real world, military morale has a way of ebbing and flowing.
    I’m glad you’ve decided from your keyboard, however, how friggin’ happy they are.
    Go Vandoos. I support you. And I hope you enjoy your tours and grow as men (and if applicable, women), plus come home safe and sound.
    But I don’t want to understate what you’re doing.
    Thanks.

  30. They all want to end combat operations and maintain a security role for humanitarian missions.
    It seems most of the troops are being murdered in security operations, just driving around. The combat troops seem to massacre (or at least pin down for USAF) whatever Taliban they come across.
    If the Opposition really cared for the troops they should call for an end to the security role, leave it to the Nords, Germans, whoever and focus on what Canadians do best – seek and destroy.
    They’d be safer that way.

  31. Posted by: Canadian Observer at August 28, 2007 12:45 AM….
    I’d say the same thing CO …. but I’m making an effort to cut down on my potty mouth!
    Right you are though! Right you are!

  32. One thing to remember is that a bored soldier is a dangerous soldier and a tired and muddy soldier is a good soldier (and usually a happy soldier, despite the grumbling). That “the devil makes works for idle hands” is triply true in the military – nobody joins an infantry, armour, artillery or engineer unit to sweep the compound and push paper – if they wanted a 9-5 work week, they would have become accountants. Train hard, train long, tear up the countryside with tanks and APCs, shoot lots of ammo, blow things up, go for long well-armed walks in the dark with your friend, learn to plan, learn to lead and train to fight – these are the things that soldiers want to do, that soldiers need to do. And when it is all done, have a couple of beers in the mess and take the piss out of each other for all the mistakes that were made. Then go and spend some quality time with your loved ones. Lather, rinse repeat.

  33. Some of you clowns shoulds realise this is not the first time the Vandoos have been in Afstan
    War in Afghanistan (2001–present)
    Operation Falcon Summit
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Falcon_Summit
    The first operation related casualty was a Canadian soldier whom while on route to a meeting with tribal elders to discuss reconstruction that would be happening during and after the operation, stepped on a landmine. The soldier, Private Frederic Couture of le Royal vingt-deuxième régiment (The Royal 22nd Regiment) the “Vandoos” suffered severe but not life threatening injuries as a result of the blast. The landmine had been planted the night before, by Taliban troops that were shot and killed by Canadian soldiers who then attempted to clear away all the landmines in the area.
    On December 19, the Canadian forces in the area began a massive artillery and tank barrage on Taliban positions in the area of operations. Backed by heavy machinegun fire, the Canadian Leopard tanks and M777 howitzers assaulted the positions for forty-five minutes before the barrage ended and Canadian ground forces advanced and secured a perimeter around the town of Howz-e Madad without firing a single shot

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