Over at Blackfive last night, Uncle Jimbo caught al-Okaili attempting to use this narrative once too often as captured on Yahoo!’s photostream:
The woman in the photo—Uncle Jimbo notes that she looks like the same woman—makes a very similar claim, holding up bullets that she claims hit her house.
And they very well may have hit her house, if the were tossed or kicked in that direction, but it is quite obvious that bullets still in their cartridge casings have never been fired by a gun.
More on “Magic Bullet Lady.
More – reader “Skip” sends this photo. “The included picture will provide for readers a reference of the common military cartridges. Brown case is AK-47 round, the .223 is what the good guys use, and the .308 is what some of the good guys use for short range sniping.”
Remember the good old days when we used to just kill people…
Why are journalists allowed to live?
Those two rounds (not bullets) look like some hunting calibres. My uneducated guess is that they are not 7.62×51 which is standard NATO light machinegun ammunition, but rather commertial hunting ammo.
nice and shiney too, shows up well on the MSM, you would think these boys would be a little more wary of the lies they weave.
oh what a tangled web we weave
when the MSM lies to deceive.
apologies to Bill Shakespear but not to the MSM
One can get a nasty bruise if the bullets are thrown hard enough….
MSM are morons.
As a professional digital retoucher, I can tell you that it’s unlikely that the woman is even holding those shells. There are obvious telltale signs of a retouch job with the lighting, colour balance and shadowing on the shells not even closely matching the shot of the woman.
That’s not to say I don’t think that someone may have been shooting at her or other people like her.
they are not NATO 7.62×51.
Look a lot more like standard 5.56 . . . long neck casing
Note: As Blackfive points out halfway down the page at http://www.blackfive.net/main/2007/08/hmmmm-even-less.html
that this woman sure looks suspiciously like the “Fatima” Reuters stringer anti-Israel photo prop from the last Lebanon war.
Check it out – remarkable and suspect similarity.
And the urban metro sexual Kool Aid swilling Libtards will lap this up for truth.
What were you saying, Kate, about rural people again?
5.56 NATO are not nearly as thick below the bottleneck.
Even if the bullet itself is 22 cal, the cases are larger than 5.56×45, unless the woman has very thin fingers which I doubt.
LMFAO. Come on all you leftards, try and defend this piece of wonderful journalism. I think the old girl should do what is expected of her. Human shield for some islamof@#$sticks. Then her duty will have been done. GO ARMY!
Run! The imperialists are throwing bullets at us!
/please collect your cheques after prayers
.223 and .308, both milspec.
This reminds me of the photo a year or two ago of the Afghan elder posing beside a reported dud bomb that had been dropped on/near his house. Knowledgeable readers soon pointed out the object in question was an artillery shell of unknown origin. MSM at its finest.
Mojo – they weren’t fired from a weapon, which is what she is claiming and even I could find cartridges like that anywhere in Iraq. A little polishing and even I could make them look just like they came from an abandoned magazine. Hell, is that even her hand?
this woman sure looks suspiciously like the “Fatima” Reuters stringer anti-Israel photo prop from the last Lebanon war
I thought the same thing too. Maybe there is a central casting agency that the MSM slobs covering the ME use. Fatima and her extended family are probably under contract. All of the wire services rely heavily on local stringers in the ME, sort of like having German civilians during WWII cover Germany for them.
The spent bullets are in more pristine shape than her jewelry, a five year old could have spotted this fraud.
She’s holding two identical rounds that look like softpoints.
What occurs to me is this picture made it through the editorial maze without a single person grasping the fundamental incongruence between the picture and the caption. Nobody at the AFP who is associated with this story knows what an unfired round, or a spent round, looks like? It’s unbelievable.
I truely think all you here missed sumthing very important
those ARE kanadian military rounds that HAVE been fired
because of our GREEN policies, all military rounds must now be of such quality that they can be picked up after firing and reincerted into military weapon and “recycled”, thusly reducing their carbon foot print!!!!!
This is what they look like BEFORE she shoots them into her mattress and calls up the NYT. Duhhhhhhhooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!
The good folks at AFP are being fitted for new hats. They do know how to spell “dunce” I hope.
Can’t blame MSM’s they fear guns and I wouldn’t be surprised if not one person at the CBC has ever fired one.
doug Laxdal After your post I went back to check the photos. You’re right it is noticable when you look for it.
I guess the MSM gun haters think everyone is as ignorant about firearms technology as they are.
These are unfired “CARTRIDGES” not spent bullets….they didn’t even have the knowledge to photoshop 2 cartridge types that are in use in that region…one looks like a .220 swift or a .22-250 varmint round the other looks to be a .222 mag not the 5,56mm us ball ammo or the 7.62mm Russian that could be lying around a battle site unfired.
Sheltered leftbot ignorance on full display here.
You laugh — I’ve been hit by an ejected casing from the FN and it hurts! What more if they still have the bullet and the powder in them???!! Besides, how do we know they’re not covered in lead paint? If someone were to chew on several hundred of them they could come down with lead poisoning!!! Those things could hurt someone — jeeeez, you guys!
“Can’t blame MSM’s they fear guns and I wouldn’t be surprised if not one person at the CBC has ever fired one.”
Oh… we’ve fired guns. Usually it’s to do with a drug-deal gone bad, or just to make good gun-owning Canadians look bad.
Re this photo… boy nobody can put anything past you guys! Unless it’s the president of the United States who continue to fools you, or the Medical insurance lobbyists who’ve convinced you that American-style medicine (with it’s 40 million uninsured citizens) is desirable, or the oil companies who continue to try and disprove global warming so they can continue to reap huge profits, or the US military who continues to try and tell you that they might win this war, but other than that… NOBODY can put anything past you guys!
Brings to mind the Afghan holding an unexploded artillery round beside the wreckage of a hovel bombed by the USAF where several terrorists were dispatched to paradise.
One wonders whether Reuters & the MSM really believe us to be that stupid and gullible… until one has a chance conversation with a leftard and they demonstrate the vapidity of their mind-set.
i’m going with the dudes at Blackfive who say 7.62×39 or 223 Remington.from what i remember i favour 7.62×39 the ak-47’s best friend. c.j.g. of eroticalee.
I don’t think that the hand holding the unshot bullets belongs to the woman in the background. Looks like the hand is superimposed on the background of that woman. The kid who wrote the caption was very young and not too bright, IMO.
Aaron: NATO LMGs are 5.56mm, aren’t they (M-249)? 7.62×51 being for the Mediums (M-240)?
My immediate suspicion was 5.45×39, but the neck angle is too sharp.
Jema: I think it’s the same hand, but with perspective distortion (of size) and shallow depth-of-field. (Both perfectly normal photographic effects, and honestly, the photograph as such is well done.)
Both rounds are the same calibre, only the lighting difference caused by the angle makes them appear different. If I had to guess, I’d say they’re 7.62 NATO, although it’s really irrelevant anyway. All I saw was “An elderly Iraqi woman shows two bullets which she says hit her house…” and I nearly pissed myself laughing.
Another low point for the MSM and a mistake reflecting a stupendous degree of stupidity.
My impression is that the cartridges in quesion are standard military .223 rounds. A quick measurement on a .223 round that just happened to be in my pocket reveals the bullet to protrude by 12 mm and the case neck to be 8 mm long giving a bullet/neck ratio of 1.5. On my screen, for the leftmost cartridge, I get bullet length of 4 mm and case neck length of 3 mm which given bullet/neck = 1.33 (close enough for me). Also, if you compare the size of the cartridge to the hand it looks like a .223. A higher resolution photograph would help sort this out but I’m sure this is a picture that the MSM is likely going to want to make disappear as quickly as possible.
File under: ‘How bloody stupid do the MSM think we are?’
Anyone remember Bugs Bunny vs the Scotsman? Said the Scotsman after shooting and retrieving his bullets, “It’s bin in ma family ferrrr yearrrrs”.
It seems from seebeesee’s comment that the credibility of the photograph and its caption are largely irrelevant to most leftists anyway. The photograph and story fits the approved narrative therefore it is “fake but true”. Never mind that the ability to determine “true” is itself predicated upon a weighing of hard facts including, one would hope, credible eyewitness accounts and photographic evidence passed through a chain of impartial collators and analysts (reporters and editors). That this photograph, in addition to other blatantly fake/forged pieces of disinformation can be so easily passed through the news agencies throws into serious doubt one’s ability to rely on these sources and channels for the very information and facts needed as the basis for ascertaining the “truth”. But this is itself a very conservative viewpoint, because for the leftist “truth” is not gleaned from a reading of the facts and the accumulation of evidence, “truth” is simply out there. It’s a belief system, and as long as the items offered up as evidence fit the belief system then they are by leftist definition “true” whether or not they represent events that actually occured. Likewise their belief in anthropogenic global warming. The fact that the very data points which allow one to determine whether or not global warming is in fact occuring (let alone whether or not it is man-made) may be seriously flawed is of no consequence to the leftist. Human beings living on the planet are “bad”, AGW is “proof” of it and therefore a series of seriously flawed baseline data points is irrelevant.
Thankfully an opportunity was missed; the caption writer could have as easily claimed with as little proof that the old lady found live rounds dropped by careless American troops where her grandchildren picked them up and were playing ‘hit the shiny thing with a hammer’ when she intervened – a situation far harder to disprove (to non-experts) than the nonsense about these being bullets that hit her house, and as likely to provoke chest-beating, wailing and teeth-gnashing on the left.
Maybe by tomorrow, the narrative will have changed.
I doubt they are 7.62 rounds, they’re about 1/3 the diameter of the womans index finger, which would make her finger just under an inch in diameter. It’s possible her fingers are that big, but I doubt it. More likely they’re .22 caliber rounds, which would make her fingers around 5/8″ diameter, somewhat more plausible. They also carry a close resemblance to the 52 gr. BTHP re-loads for my .22-.250.
DrD – you don’t post here enough. Your insights and descriptive skills are superb.
Actually, the photo could be ‘two photos’. There’s the old photo of the EveryIraqiOldWoman, which is dragged up whenever needed.
Superimposed on that photo, is someone’s hand, holding the two cartridges.
…easy to explain – those were dud shells which didn’t explode after being dropped by an Israeli F-16 during Ramadingdong.
There, now back to Photoshopping class everyone.
This is so patently stupid, somebody should copyright it.
How does this exaxtly spell, ‘two bullets she says hit her house’, one wonders where is the soldier that spent his spare time to polish the two pieces of ammunition in order to throw them at the womans house.
Is this redilulous or what, and brouth to you by supposedly educated ‘journalis’, employed by a supposedly major press agency.
After a longer look at the pictured ammo, you will notice that the two pieces are different the colour of the right one is brass and copper, the otherone is brass and something much lighter than copper.
The closest looking round in my collection is 7mm Rem Mag. They do look like magnum calibres from the neck angle, don’t they? Next, NATO FMJ bullets are much sharper – these look like rounded softpoint ammo. $20 says these are hunting rounds.
Jeez that’s embarrassing for the AFP. It’s blatantly obvious that those 2 bullets are still in their casings.
Yeesh. What a bunch of (leftist) morons.
Its obvious to even a five year old that those bullets are still “bullets” and not spent shells. If she wants to give them to me I would gladly “spend” them but I doubt that she would like the result.
Its obvious to even a five year old that those bullets are still “bullets” and not spent shells. If she wants to give them to me I would gladly “spend” them but I doubt that she would like the result.
“The photograph and story fits the approved narrative therefore it is “fake but true”.”
Don’t tell me what I said.
I have no idea what’s going on behind this photo, but before going on on some wild conspiracy theory, we should consider that it could be something as simple as an error with the translation.
But all this is beside the point. The right goes into a tizzy over the littlest mistake in the media, all while ignoring the huge, HUUUUUGE mistakes made by the retarded elephant in the living room that is the current administration occupying the White House.
It’s pretty obvious that a major shitstorm went down in Iraq, and all you losers can talk about is some screwed up photo caption. You are so insane with conservatism, that you are mad at reality for not being as you wish.
Even if there was commie spy behind this photo, it still wouldn’t change the fact that Bush lied to take the US to war, that said war was fucked up by GOP incompetence (even when they could have won it), and now they have no idea how to wrap it up.
Fine by me. My only hope is that all of these Iraqis didn’t die for nothing, and that this failure will result in this current bout of conservatism ending up in the toilet where it belongs.
Then Liberals can step in and as screwed up as we might be, we’ll clean up this mess you idiots have made of things.
Sorry about the double post, Kate, but I got this wierd message that I could not post because I had posted “too manmy times recently” which is nonsense. I’ve now posted twice this evening. What gives?
“Its obvious to even a five year old that those bullets are still “bullets” and not spent shells. If she wants to give them to me I would gladly “spend” them but I doubt that she would like the result.”
You go! You go kill that old lady you brave man you!
“Then Liberals can step in and as screwed up as we might be, we’ll clean up this mess you idiots have made of things.”
R O T F L M A O !