110 Replies to “Well Done!”

  1. Huh, now a few online rightwingers have skewed the results in a poll that asked you to vote multiple times?
    Buggo, alby, saskboy, all spitting mad… I guess they can’t stand it that their personal hero is getting examined without the rose-coloured glasses. Poor kids. Soon someone will them that socialised medicine is a dead religion, too, and then you’ll see them flip out for good.

  6. This must have been a GTA poll, there’s not enough liberals at the top. Also no Robert Picton? AND who is Chris Hannah? Not enough room to correct Albatross.

  7. Yukon, calling PET a hero of mine, is stretching beyond any sense. Just because I don’t think he’s the worst Canadian doesn’t put him at the top of my list. There are more than 2 noteworthy Canadians after all.

  8. albatros39a wants us to “…try to open a book (and your minds) for a change”
    I do keep trying that, but it’s a slow process, and I seem unable to develop the contemporary mindset – no “willing suspension of disbelief”. Almost invariably, after stopping to think and cross-reference, I find the emperor has been skinny-dipping while drunk again.
    Reading is no substitute for thinking.

  9. Finally the recognition he deserves.
    🙂
    Anti European Immigration, no death penalty, bilingualizm, multiculturalism, NEP, Affirmative Action, Deficits for Decades, Destroying the RCAF, RCN, and Canadian Army, a racist charter, high taxes, lower dollar,….
    ie whats to like
    Death to Trudeaupia!

  10. Again with birdie’s new ideas and open minds…
    “Things like legalizing pot, gay marriage, abortions (sic) rights and worst of all for the right, tolerance of others who are non-white and/or non-christian (sic).”
    Regarding your first three illustrations: you have failed to demonstrate their benefits. Oh, it’s merely about freedom, choice and independence?* That reasoning is an antitautology and is the mark of the mentally inept.
    As for #4: ad hominem! The slur appears to stick only because most people will do everything they can to avoid confrontation. This emotional terrorism has also been aided by the morally-deficient redefinition of tolerance as ‘agreement within the framework of relativism.’
    *anticipating the usual argument…

  11. Trudeau is easily the worst Canadian of all times. It’s good that a Canadian history magazine recognizes and publicizes this obvious fact, and even better that ol’ PET is no doubt bunking with Marx, Lenin and Stalin in the hottest part of Hades.

  12. I agree — the inclusion of Harper in this poll destroys some of its credibility. It is, surely, a bit premature to be judging Harper on his “legacy”. And using things like what “Harper is going to cost Canadians down the road” to defend the choice is ludicrous.

  13. “…try to open a book (and your minds) for a change”
    You’ll be glad to hear alba that this knuckle dragger is almost done reading Atlas Shrugged sorry I’m a slow study I should have read it years ago.
    The only time I seen Trudeau was when I was kid he flew in for the opening of a fruit stand near the town where I lived. The family and their relatives where BIG liberal supporters all rural Dutch Catholics …. oh the irony. Before any Dutch Catholics get their knickers in a knot this was in Ontario so it should explain things.

  14. Well, well, well. Smiles all around!
    I NEVER did vote for Pierre Trudeau. My BS meter went over the top, even though I was only in my late teens when he first became PM. But, no good deed goes unpunished, and I’ve had to live with the fallout of his dastardly socialist policies for way too long.
    Canada could be a great country. After 30 years of Trudopey-an/Utopian nonsense-made-law, we’re not even a mediocre power–something Prime Minister Stephen Harper is turning around. Obviously, some trolls were hard at work voting at The Beaver to put him at #6.
    So, I’m wondering why Jean-I’ll-break-your-legs-or-at-the-very-least-strangle-you Cretin didn’t make it onto the list?
    Maybe it “the Librano$” had been a choice, they’d all have made #1.

  15. pierre elliot twadles. the poster boy for silver spoon socialists. i got mine and i will keep yours, what joke the man was.

  16. Even if you are so inclined to like Trudeau’s policies,how can any Canadian ignore the fact he bankrupted,insulted or alienated millions of other Canadians?
    That alone disqualifies him as being any kind of success.
    Add in his socialist policies and it’s no wonder millions of Canadians STILL consider him an absolute disaster.
    As per Harper….he has really disappointed me on a few issues….but it is no more than partisan childishness to even consider him a contender.

  17. Mark Steyn:
    “So he renamed the Royal Mail “Canada Post.” The notion that, while he was ordering up the new letterheads, he might also endeavour to improve the delivery of mail seems never to have occurred to him. Like many of his totalitarian friends, he disdained to be bound by such humdrum concepts as meaning and reality. If he declared the country bilingual, why then, it must be so.”
    “Trudeau’s is, after all, an incredible accomplishment: No political leader of a long-established Western nation has ever succeeded so exhaustively in reinventing the state as a projection of his own identity. Political comparisons are useless. One thinks instead of Liberace, who once insisted that a young lover have his face reconstructed to look more like his own, because he wanted to gaze on himself during sex.”
    “Andrew Coyne went so far as to measure PET’s decisive role in our history with that of Winston Churchill in 1940 — a comparison that only underlines our woeful triviality. If the defence of the West had rested with Trudeau in May 1940, I think we can all guess how the Second World War would have turned out. (In his memoirs, the young Trudeau sums up the great conflict of the century thus: “So there was a war. Tough.”)”
    “Trudeau did not unite the country, he exacerbated its divisions. He did not “put us on the map,” he took us off it — and, if you doubt it, glance over the guest list for the funeral.”
    “Some of us are not yet ready to accept the national myth. Some of us think the four and a half centuries before 1968 are also relevant to modern Canada.”

  18. Well, thanks to that albatross fellow, we’re beginning to see the Liberal reaction to the poll result: too many of the participants didn’t vo-o-o-o-te the right way. (Snub variant in this case.)
    Has anyone got a line on whether or not the disteengueeshed panel has told ordinary Canadians how we oughta think?

  19. Some of us think the four and a half centuries before 1968 are also relevant to modern Canada.”
    You mean, like, our history?
    Thanks for that, MM, nobody says it like da Steyn says it.
    And he can make you laugh while doing it – another reason why he drives lefties insane.

  20. @dean spencer-fox:
    Back in a more settled time, a professional historian would be obliged to confine him- or herself to that time period, in order not to lose necessary perspective. As long as we’re still living in “Trudeaupia,” it’d be damned hard to write a truly judicious history of the man and his times. Until then, all we can realistically expect is bias or heuristic reinforcement.
    This reinforcement takes place on all three sides of the question: pro-Trudeau, anti-Trudeau, and neutralist. The last side has a bias too, one that inclines its holder to underrate the [accomplishments of/damage done by] Prime Minister Trudeau.

  21. Thoughtful commenters might want to visit the Montreal Gazette’s website and check the daily poll. So far a misguided 80% are insisting that PET should not be on a list of worst Canadians

  22. The thing that really pees me off is that somebody actually named a mountain in Western Canada after Trudeau.
    I am absolutely positive that there are no small, ugly, pock-marked mountains in Western Canada.

  23. OMMAG & Miss. Matt: You have both hit all the right keys for the way I feel about the poll. I did get to vote on the poll and was happy to see my No:1 of choice made it to the top. Really, who is Chris Matthews??? Mark Steyn did say it in the very best way,Trudeau likley did want Canada to have his ugly face and he made sure we got it.

  24. Our local rag just ran an editorial on the Charter and referred to Trudeau as being ‘revered’.
    Fixed their misapprehension by e-mailing the ‘Beaver’ poll to them, suggesting they be a little more circumspect in their choice of adjectives. Let’s see if they run the letter.

  26. I remember having a discussion with a quiet thoughtful gentleman who taught school at Wawa,Ontario. He was from the Irish Republic. He said this of the then Prime Minister Trudeau.
    “He has the intellect of a genius- and the mentality of an adolescent”.
    I sort of thought it was quite good, at the time.

  27. There is a punctuation error on the magazine cover. The question mark is to be a period.

  28. M Hawkins,
    you noticed that too? A couple of other things: the name of the worst canadian isn’t blaring across the front, nor, really, the face . . . just a silhouette that the average non-engaged canadian wouldn’t recognize when strolling past the newspaper stand. If it had been Mulroney, i think the cover layout would’ve been different. Anyways, just nitpicking . . . its a good day.

  29. Remember the t-shirt that made the rounds out west in the early 1980’s? It read:
    “Who Said Trudeau Would Never Lift a Finger for the West?”
    Below it was picture of Trudeau doing exactly that.

  30. @jlc:
    It would be thoughtful yourself to realize that Pierre Trudeau is a “Montreal boy.” If the Toronto Maple Leafs were voted “Canada’s Worst Hockey Team” by a similar poll open to all Canadians, then there would be a similar upsurge of protest in any Toronto paper.
    I myself might join it (but I’m veering in on the personal.)

  32. Alby in uniform at Trenton and Comox
    –which cadet corps were you with?
    a paid holiday courtesy of the canadian taxpayer.
    your boots are shining your putties are tight your bals are swinging from left to right. sound off , one two three four. three four.

  33. Mugs at July 30, 2007 6:10 PM
    “You’ll be glad to hear alba that this knuckle dragger is almost done reading Atlas Shrugged sorry”
    Actually the correct term for a conservative is “knuckle-walker”. Knuckle dragging is a higher evolutionary adaptation.
    cal2 at July 30, 2007 11:57 PM
    Sorry cal I never was a cadet. I never had time or the Hitler Youth thanks.

  34. andycanuck at July 30, 2007 11:40 PM
    (And, yes, we’re losing.)
    So is this con code for “let the freeping begin”?

  35. Don’t forget the metric system being forced on us.
    The majority of cdns do not know that we never got to vote on any of these topics, and they were never mentioned in any election campaign, or speeches, or red book. Dictatorship at its finest, aka his hero Castro.

  36. “Don’t forget the metric system being forced on us.”
    Oh maryT move on at least to the twentieth century and get with the program.

  37. I have thought long and deeply about this man, his place in history and the changes to Canada on his watch and realize that it is possible to make a carefully balanced statement that in no way slides into excessive over-exaggeration or uncalled-for insult.
    There was never anything wrong with Pierre Trudeau that having him bronzed in 1967 and used as third-world harbour backfill would not have cured. His Charter isn’t worth the dead sheep it’s printed on, and someone ought to put a spittoon on his grave to save the grass. He should have been pasted one in the smush when he was a young punk riding about Jewish neighbourhoods with a Nazi helmet on, and one again for foisting Lalonde and Chretien on the West. He hated the Canada that was, and killed it, and made the country over in his own image: small-minded, petty, overbearing, condescending, arrogant, smug, corrosively anti-American, mistaken as to its own import on the world stage, socialist, passive in the face of danger and loud in the defense of the obviously wrong. With a wildly rocketing deficit to pay for it all.
    I could go on. But he’s dead now, and there is enough work for the rest of us in cleaning up his legacy to keep us going for several lifetimes. Ultimately, the man is just not worth a further thought .

  38. “”Don’t forget the metric system being forced on us.”
    Oh maryT move on at least to the twentieth century and get with the program.
    Posted by: albatros39a at July 31, 2007 12:51 AM ”
    Ummmmmm….think you mispelled that Alby. That should be pogram.Name me one country that went metric,outside of Canuckistan,during Mr.Trudeaus era.(Besides Fwannce)

  39. Was Trudeau the worst thing to hit Canada? You bet he was. A joy to the socialists who kept him in power for most of his tenure – he instituted most of their demands and we are still paying for today. He did not have an original thought throughout his 15 years at the helm.
    Trudeaumainia was a Liberal invention. Those girls were paid to run and kiss him. Watch any of Benjamin Brittan’s documentaries on Trudeau and you will see it was all manufactured by Senator Davis (the Rainmaker).
    Trudeau chose Communism over the free market system; thus the problems with our Medicare system where initiative is stifled for the benefit of the few. Our national debt, which was started under his reign when Chretien was the finance minister, is still a burden on our shoulders. Unfortunately, Mulroney inherited it and then ballooned it to twice the amount before he left. Chretien (who has also never had an original idea in his 40 years at the trough) stopped the haemorrhaging by implementing the Harper/Manning plan for deficit reduction but with an accelerated pace.
    In an effort to save his tarnished record Trudeau had to do something drastic. Something that could be used to hide all his failures as he rebuilt his persona as the saviour of Canada – for the country was never united and has not been since he arrived in the stage. Thus the Charter was imposed on us. A piece of trash legislation that changed the power structure in this country with so little debate that the sound was deafening.
    After he “retired” – before being defeated for the second time – he started his campaign with the help of the Toronto centric media to change his image – the outdoorsman, who was at one with nature and one of us common folk. A long cry from the finger salutes.
    At his death was the honorary pallbearer Castro – a beacon for all democratic loving peoples. A state funeral was held for a man unworthy of such honours. He was, after all, a legend in his own mind.
    I could go on for hours about his many failures but it would make you cry and you would ask yourself how a man could have so many and still be in power so long. It’s our electoral system that saved his hide. He held on as long as he could to try and outlast Laurier but as usual failed at that.
    Yes, his nomination as Canada’s worst Canadian is duly earned.

  40. I wish you would all lay off Alby. He has served his country. He may not have been a big tuff infantryman, but flying into Sarajevo in the 90’s was nothing to joke about.
    Something the people on the sharp end of the stick seem to forget is that while they can fight back when attacked, as it is their job to so, the support elements still keep plugging away doing their job to support the war fighters even when they come under attack themselves.
    That being said; just having an open mind is not all it takes. You have to apply reason and critical thinking to all these ideas that enter into it. Simple acceptance is a path to domination of yourself and your spirit. Don’t just read books Alby. Think about what the say.

  41. Great comments, T. Robert Wolfram and Fiumara! Too bad you weren’t writing for the MSM back then, teaching in our schools, or running for office, yourselves.
    Trudeau did a real Pied-Piper number on Canadians, and I’m only too happy to say that I never fell for it. What a bunch of lazy, sleepy-eyed dolts Canadians have been, falling for a brazen charlatan and not only making him Prime Minister too many times but deifying him as well. ‘Some barometre for how far down the slippery slope to slovenly slop we’ve descended.
    The guy had a roving eye, too. He looked me up and down at the National Arts Centre in Ottawa one night when I was young, lithe, and lovely, and it gave me great pleasure to give him a steely stare back.
    Our children and grandchildren are going to be dealing with the fallout of Trudeaumania for years to come. What a lousy legacy we’ve left them.
    ‘Sorry, guys. I’ve done my bit to try to stem the tide…

  42. Obviously the metric system was a mistake. 80% of our exports are to those U.S.A. and likewise 65-70% of our imports are therefrom. I’d have preferred to keep Imperial measurements but if change was to be made then the reasoned direction would have been to Americanize (we had common distance and weight scales but different volume).

  43. You people are hilarious. That bit about including Harper robbing the poll of credibility literally made me laugh out loud.
    And the metric system? Seriously?
    Wikipedia, let’s see a map of all the countries that _haven’t_ adopted the metric system.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Metric_system.png
    Interesting. Charles Taylor’s stomping grounds, a military junta and the U.S.

  44. I’m going to say it again (I’m still waiting to hear from cconn): without the use of the notwithstanding clause, where elected LEGISLATURES reclaim, from unelected judges, the laws they’ve duly passed—and the judges have struck down—Trudeau, via the Charter, has destroyed democracy in this country. THAT’S the main reason he’s the worst Canadian.
    The Liberals and their lapdogs in the MSM have manufactured and promoted the big lie that the notwithstanding clause is un-Canadian and dangerous: in one of the last election debates, Martin even blurted out that he’d see this clause removed from the Charter. What a dolt: he had neither the jurisdiction nor the means to do this.
    Canadians need to be re-educated: the notwithstanding clause is PART of the Charter (Section 33) and was put there for a purpose. That is, as part of the checks and balances a democracy needs to be sure that one sector—in this case, the non-elected judiciary—doesn’t become too powerful. In fact, the provincial premiers, who made a backroom deal with Trudeau to give birth to this Frankenstein Monster, refused to go along until Section 33 was entrenched.
    The notwithstanding clause is a linchpin in Canada’s democracy and is there to be used: it’s about time our politicians returned democracy to this country by doing so.
    As Wolfman and Fiumara have pointed out, Trudeau’s legacy to this country has been altogether destructive. Only impressionable types with juvenile, shallow minds, fixated on appearances, could be fooled by this arrogant poltroon.

  45. One of the things this list of “bad” canadians does is reveal some things about the psyche of the average modern hoser:
    1) “Progressive” public education (indoctrination) has erased 200 years of history in the average Kanukistani sheeps memory
    2) Mostly politicians make the list…which displays that Canadians KNOW they have been governed by thugs, crooks and incompetents from the ruling class for generations….they just never thought it was worth getting agitated about.

  46. From my limited knowledge of the military, anyone who served as an adult would have called the cadets “Boy Scouts,” or a more specific term of disparagement such as “flyboy” for Air Cadets. There is no way that such a person would compare them with an enemy. FYI.

  47. Obviously the metric system wasn’t the worst of Trudeau but it is revealing of his distain for Canadian culture and his goverance by ideology.
    The Imperial measurement system was our history (for centuries).
    Why change to metric? Our main trading partner is those U.S.A. (80% of exports, 65-70% of imports) so if an economic justification was to be the reason for change it would have called for an Americanization of our Imperial scales (volumes and also the short ton). Also the United Kingdom didn’t switch to metric until 1995 so that that trade would have also been considered (I’m sure others Commonwealth countries also). The reason was pure ideology. Enormous cost expended only to cause increased future cost in trading, with the only “benefit” being destruction of our history and alignment with entities other than our historical allies and trading partners.

  48. liberal leaders, the precis version:
    the hated Chinese head tax, a liberal invention.
    makenzie king made decisions of national importance based on…. the zigzag movements of a ouji board.
    pierre turdeau gave us official bilingualism which guaranteed a grossly disproportionate influence of quebecers whose mother tongue is french and must learn english to survive in the world, unless theyre a farmer in the hinterland, oblivious to anything past the 200 km perimeter.
    pierre turdeau again who burdened us with the charter which has now been used hundreds of times in wacko judicial decisions to exempt and dismiss such things as the recent 50 kg cocaine border smuggling incident.
    j cretin, who came up with adscam which was for me the absolute last final straw as far as anything lieberal is concerned. theyre using MY money to buy support from quebec and entrench themselves and it STILL didnt work, thats how bad their situation is.
    I agree with M Hawkins, more prudent to wait for USA to go metric whenever they choose to, to maintain trade volume with ROTW (rest of the world), THEN go metric in unison. but turdeau was an imperious arrogant elitist who blugeoned anyone in cabinet who made a peep of disagreement. he was a bloody closet facist, a big fan for instance, of Mao whose history I am now reading up on and who was the worst murderous manipulative tyrant of the 20th century.

  49. Man … do I have the warm fuzzies.
    Now can we have a poll on
    – the worst bilingual system in Canada
    – the worst metric system in Canada
    – the worst multicultural system in Canada
    – the worst justice system in Canada
    – the worst educational system run by teachers unions in Canada

  50. So many have said it all, but MHawkins has hit it in very few words – his disdain for Canadian culture, and, as Trudeau made obvious at every opportunity, his disdain for ordinary Canadians.
    He was an egomaniac, most likely from birth. How he fooled so many people will never be answered. The MSM unintentionally revealed his immaturity at every opportunity (revealing their own immaturity at the same time)but the gullible never saw through it. And still don’t.

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