125 Replies to “Shooting at Virginia Tech”

  2. When will authorities understand that if a Psycho or terrorist wants to pick a target where he can do the most damage without the probability of being shot and where all his potential victims are sure to be unarmed and incapable of armed response to an armed attack, that number one target is a school.
    Sorry, it’s post 911 world moonbats…official hoplophobia is killing people…armed campus guards at the least…preferably state-issued concealed carry for a few plain cloths security staff.
    I guaran-damn-tee a demented goblin like this Virginia killer would not be racking up the body count he did…and if there is a efficient pattern of armed campus security responding fast and dispatching these dirt bags with deadly precision before they take lives ….schools will fall out of favor as a target for mass killers.

  4. WLMR: Just as you say.
    The only way to stop a murderous nutcase is immediate response with equivalent force.
    The gun control moonbats will be closing their doors and chortling with glee, even when these examples of insanity prove that gun control doesn’t work.
    Sad.

  5. Death toll now reported-32.Fox reports “Asian looking male”. Description gleaned from eyewitnesses.
    Too bad some of the students weren’t carrying. They may have been able to take this guy out before he did that much damage.

  7. The goblins are getting smarter too, WL. Looks like Goblin Boy used a real gun this time. Up ’till now they’ve been using pistols and tarted up carbines like that scumbag Kimveer Gill.
    Another victory for gun control and liberalism. I really don’t know what it is going to take before people in the Western world finally remember (because we used to know this) that there’s only so much a government agency can actually, physically do for you when it all hits the fan.
    I’m sorry if this seems harsh, but when I see numbers like 29 dead by ONE shooter, there’s only one place to look for the reason and that’s liberal legislators and the socialist moneybags who buy them.
    What really chews me is that I couldn’t have BEEN there and fixed this pr1ck before he got started. 29 kids dead, g*dd*mnit!

  8. “The only way to stop a murderous nutcase is immediate response with equivalent force. ”
    This is presicely what saved many lives at Dawson College…Had on-staff security had the same response deployment as the police, they may have been no casualties.
    Gun control laws only effect sane responsible people…only swift armed response will save lives when a deranged criminal or terrorist decides to go on a killing spree.
    Anyone who makes equivilence between regustering the shot guns of Sask. duck hunters and preventing mass nurder, is too demented to be of use in this debate.
    The Virginia killings are a clear cut case of disarming the victims.

  11. Why can’t fricken nutcases like this pathetic vermin just off themselves and leave everyone else alone?
    I wish the media would refuse to name the scum or show a picture of the scum. If they knew they would get no publicity for themselves, it may stop them from running amok in the first place.

  13. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266310,00.html
    Federal Officials: At Least 32 Dead After Virginia Tech University Shooting
    “BLACKSBURG, Va. — At least 32 people are confirmed dead and at least another 21 are wounded after a shooting at Virginia Tech University Monday morning, federal law enforcement officials told FOX News.
    Campus police said there was only one shooter and he is now dead. They are unsure if the shooter was a student and it was unclear if he was shot by police or took his own life.”
    With 32 dead and 21 wounded, this would suggest an automatic weapon/s would have been used by the lone deranged individual or terrorist.
    To have brought up the body count this quickly nothing short of automatic weapons fire could account the death and injury toll. To have done this much damage in such a short period would suggest some training in how to ‘lay down the lead’.
    Obviously, this individual was deranged or a planned terrorist act. I would be guessing the latter as they have ready access automatic weapons.
    Truly, a black day for Blacksburg, Va.

  14. Wait for it….you know before the week is out, some moonbat from the MSM is going to blame this on Bush and the war.

  15. on the fox site there is a picture of one of them getting arrested. Asian, maybe Korean?

  16. I just bought my 1 year membership to the NRA online. I’ve been meaning to do it for awhile. I don’t own a gun yet, but they need my support. That’s my reaction to the calls for gun control.

  17. Hope the going postal trend changes to jumping from high bridges or something more bravado and less cowardly.= TG

  18. “What kind of coward takes the failure on his own life out on others?”
    The type created by the culture of victimhood…. created by degenerate liberalism which looks to pin the blame for personal failings on external sources and allows the underacheiver to be coddled by the nanny state as a “victim” for their hadicap, race, ethnicity, sexual preference all their wrong doings. The need to idetify with a victim group to make your worst impulses someone else’s fault.
    I want everyone reading this to do me one favor…remember what I said about the cult of victimhood cultured by nanny statism.
    In the ensuing days and weeks when the libby-left hand wringers in the media are working this story to death to propagete their pet victimhood orthodoxies…watch for them to fix blame on every damn thing but the nutter who did it…
    it was his home life…
    it was society’s failure to recognize him,…
    it was the gun, …..
    it was lack of gun control,…
    it was the way his Daddy yelled at him,….
    it was his teachers belittleing him,… it was his girlfriend leaving him…
    and on and on and on….dytopian Liberalism looking everywhere but at the perpetrator for answers.
    Then again it was liberal left culture that removed his personal responsibility and those so indoctrinated just don’t get it…they wander aimlessly looking for some external thing to blame their actions on.
    If this attitude wasn’t so deadly, it’d be hilarious.

  19. Unfortunately this massacre will no doubt bring out a lot of hand wringing leftists calling for more gun controls. As mentioned above schools, hospitals, universities are seen as soft targets by the unbalanced and will continue to generate headlines like this until we either remove every offensive weapon in the country or we adopt a sane gun policy that would allow CCP to every responsible citizen that wishes to protect themselves. This is another incident that proves the current legislation has again drastically failed and that the state is unable to protect its most vulnerable citizens. Thirty plus deaths in one incident is a sad commentary on our society.

  20. Hi ED
    I understand your deleting the post I responded too. Perhaps it will be better to delete my complete post /response. Your editing of the post now makes it look like I am berating the hole form instead of the troll Warrior. You might as well delete this one as well
    Thank you and take care. [OK, Done – ED]

  21. A likely result of this horrible event will be armed guards on campus.
    Sadly for today’s victims it will be a reactive, rather than proactive cure.

  22. Can anyone answer this question. Why, in most university shootings, it is the science and engineering faculties that are hit.

  23. The Israeli’s dealt with this problem two decades ago. I also understand Thailand has dealt with terrorists targeting schools as well. They make sure there is an armed presence in the schools, the teachers in Israel, and I don’t know about Thailand.
    There have been 16 incidents of Islamofascist attack in the US to date and all denied by the FBI as anything more than isolated incidents. Just listening to a local radio talk show (Bill Goode)on the attack where the last caller went on about violent video games and other familiar meaningless rhetoric.
    I thought 9/11 was the wake-up call. I guess not.

  24. Actually albatros, one dead soldier killed fighting in a war zone sucks but isn’t on the same level as 32+ people killed at a university campus where it should be least expected.
    But given you bring it up, as a juxtaposition, this one day at a University has matched 2/3rds of Canada’s losses in our war to protect 30 million people and give them a modicrum of a chance at life. I’d say that no loss should be trivialized but losing a life for the benefit of 30 million isn’t a waste. Losing 32 lives because some guy feels disgruntled is. That you can’t put that into perspective lets us know you’re a leftard.
    Now be gone.

  25. albatross – was there a school massacre in Canada today? I’ve checked and can’t find it. Please advise.
    Do you only feel concern for people who are citizens of Canada? Not a shred of concern for the basic commonality of our being, all of us, human, no matter which country we live in? How cold and arrogant of you. Did you know that such exclusive nationalism is a characteristic of fascism? You are a fascist!!??
    You refer to ‘fascism’ – and to ‘followers of Harper’ as being fascist. COuld you provide some reasonable explanation for this opinion of yours
    I strongly support Harper – and heck, sorry to inform you, but I’m not a fascist. Indeed, I’m not aware of any people who support Harper who are fascists; fascism and Harper’s policies simply don’t function together. But – you claim they do. Explain fascism and how Harper is one, please.

  28. 1. Does anyone notice something funny about the timing of the shooting? The killer shot up part of campus around 7am but was still able to find people in class at 10am to shoot some more? The university knew that there was a shooter on campus for 2 hours but it didn’t cancel classes? They had a shooting on campus a year ago – it’s amazing that they had no plan in effect for this type of situation.
    2. As for gun control – this shooting was another example of it’s fine effects.
    This is what the university had to say when the state of Virginia agreed to ban students and staff from having guns on campus:
    “I’m sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly’s actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus.”

  29. Warwick: “but isn’t on the same level as 32+ people killed at a university campus where it should be least expected.”
    WTF?! You *EXPECT* students to be executed at universities? Geez, I hope I don’t send my girls to any school you send your children to.

  30. Kevin,
    Re-read the sentance. Since you reposted it in quote form you’d have thought you’d have read it the first time.
    The sentance means the exact opposite of what you took it as…

  33. George Bush made a statement on TV just now. He began by offering all help that the U.S. government could deliver, and ended with a prayer for the victims. It was short, lasting about a minute or so.

  34. “This is very sad.
    We go to blogs,
    As a place to debate.
    But when a maniac,
    Mows down innocents,
    Pause we not to weep?”
    Posted by: Vitruvius at April 16, 2007 3:54 PM
    Amen.

  35. Oops. My bad. I thought you said “at least expected”, which you didn’t.
    My apologies for an undeserved slur.

  36. “Did that creep Albatross dare equate this to Afghanistan? That’s low, even for him. Way to go ED for booting him off.
    Posted by: The Phantom at April 16, 2007 3:26 PM “
    You’ll never know, because that post was deleted. The post was in fact a criticism of SDA in it’s lack of handling the story about dead Canadian soldiers and instantly posting a story about dead Americans. Apparently who ever is playing “ED” today didn’t like SDA being criticized. But I guess you’ll never know for sure.
    “I’m pretty sure that ED is Kate. ED being Editor of the site…
    Posted by: Warwick at April 16, 2007 3:29 PM”
    Well who ever is acting as “ED” today is terribly afraid of a bit of criticism of SDA along with it’s support of racist comments found on SDA. I notice criticisms of Iraq, or Harper and the Conservatives are often frequently deleted here too.
    Controlling free speech and opposing viewpoints is a very cowardly tactic too often used by right-wing fascists the world over.
    That’s quite all right as I take screenshots of my comments on SDA and will post them on another web site to show how right-wing fanatics handle opposing viewpoints.
    ED, better delete all the posts that commented earlier on my deleted posts because if you don’t people here will see that you’re controlling of the information of what they are allowed to see.
    This sounds like the work of the same childish mind behind the Suzuki poll manipulation a few weeks ago.
    Oops, this could be considered another criticism, how long until this post is deleted too?

  37. “George Bush made a statement on TV just now. He began by offering all help that the U.S. government could deliver”
    Same help that they received after Katrina? Haven’t they suffered enough?

  38. Wow. 30 kids have been shot dead and the blame somehow falls on those who campaigned against firearms.
    There is so much bullsh*t on this particular topic floating around on this board.
    Why is the onus on students to buy guns to protect themselves? Why isnt the onus on the state to keep guns out of peoples hands? The state has responsibilities. One of those responsibilities is PROTECTING citizens. It is a responsibility given to the state by the citizens. Why have cops if we can just arm ourselves and do whatever? Why keep an army if everybody should be allowed to have a gun or two?
    Arm campus security. Arm the law enforcement agencies. That isnt the issue. Somebody said that armed campus security would be reactive. Yes, yes it is reactive. These things only happen with experience. Why wasnt airport security better before 9/11? Its the same thing. The simple answer lies in the profit margin. It would cost too much money. In a capitalist system, it is not uncommon to NOT protect oneself against extremely low risks, especially when money is involved.
    How did the murderer get his hands on the weapons in the first place? Has anybody bothered checking? The simple fact is that they were accessible and probably legal. I dont buy the automatic weapons talk. According to eyewitnesses on BBC the kid was firing off a single round at a time.
    “created by degenerate liberalism which looks to pin the blame for personal failings on external sources and allows the underacheiver to be coddled by the nanny state as a “victim” for their hadicap, race, ethnicity, sexual preference all their wrong doings.”
    Thats gratuitous and inaccurate. These kinds of crimes are hardly new or limited in geographical location. They happen all over the world. Soldiers kill officers when they re under extreme duress. I bet liberalism is to blame for that to. Too bad Liberalism hasnt been around forever.
    Mary T
    “Why, in most university shootings, it is the science and engineering faculties that are hit.”
    Engineering is one of the most high stress faculties in any university in any part of the world. Science is not far behind, especially if you need the perfect scores required for med schools. They are very specialised fields, and there is no room for error. It essentially defines their lives.
    And then of course theres the genius of WLMKR.
    Tell me Willie, what exactly caused this kid to go berserk? If he was always insane, why did nobody realise it earlier? If he is a student, why did they give him admission? How come nobody noticed that the guy was completely nuts till today? Perhaps its because he wasnt always insane. You apparently beg to differ. Well Willie, sometimes its good to address the factors that cause these breakdowns. Ask the armed forces all over the world. Extreme duress has resulted in soldiers killing officers. Both groups are kept under observation, and yet, one fine day, a completely normal soldier might crack. And those nannies, the ones who ve been to war, you know, the generals, they ask the questions you ask – what caused it and how do we fix it? Human beings can change from one day to the next under certain conditions. The answer is in the conditions as much as it is in the perpetrators.
    This entire incident is shocking and incredibly sad and distressing. Scoring brownie points off it by taking gratuitous potshots at the gun control folk is just low. I m not one of them – I have a weapon, a navy issue revolver that needs to be cleared by bureaucrats in both countries before it can be brought into Canada. But somehow, after reading what you lot have to say, I think I support the gun control folk. In the armed forces, a tab is kept on the behavior of individuals. Cant say the same for the public. I sure as hell wouldnt trust WLMKR with a gun.

  39. This is a very sad day. We try to protect are children, get them graduated safely and send them of to college to get a higher education. Some nut bar can come in and destroy everything – just like that.
    I can not imagine what the students, teachers and parents are going through.
    My prayers go out to the victims, families and the school.

  40. I sure as hell wouldnt [sic] trust WLMKR with a gun.

    I sure as hell wouldn’t trust you running government. You erstaz-Stalin.

  43. I’m sure the usual suspects will be blamed too. Video Games, Music and Global Warming.

  44. My condolences go out to all families affected by this terrible tragedy.
    No doubt all sides will be drawing their respective political swords over this issue.

  45. According to the mindless, leftist trolls, guns should only be in the possession of criminals, madmen and state-controlled police. Great! I feel better already.
    And no, I’m not twisting what you say, mindless troll. Criminals are criminals because they don’t obey the law…you will never disarm criminals unless and until you create Gestapo and SS wings of the police forces…which I wouldn’t doubt is your ultimate goal.

  46. jeremiah:
    This statement of yours greatly offends me.
    “Engineering is one of the most high stress faculties in any university in any part of the world. Science is not far behind, especially if you need the perfect scores required for med schools. They are very specialised fields, and there is no room for error. It essentially defines their lives.”
    You are obviously not an engineer. So let me school you.
    On most Canadian campuses the Engineering students are the biggest partiers around. Sort of the equivalent of the Greek system of American schools. The motto “work hard, play harder” means something to us. We know how to blow off steam and are not pressure cookers waiting to blow.
    I did not worry about making zero errors. I did not worry about getting perfect grades.
    What I did do though was:
    1. Took a full engineering course load and recieved decent grades.
    2. Worked a near full-time job at the SAME time to pay for it.
    3. Pulled all-nighters when I needed to.
    4. Got pissed every weekend to blow off steam.
    5. Cut classes when required to have some fun.
    And my fellow students all had pretty similar experiences.
    To stereo type us as overworked, overstressed and on the verge of a mental melt down shows what a retard you are.

  47. WL Mackenzie Redux
    Not only armed guards but also Prof’s should be forced to carry a sidearm think of it as the price for diversity.
    The thugs never hit police stations or army bases. And our liberal societies sure seem to have this happen a lot.
    I wonder how often it happened before the 60’s.
    A few threads ago.
    1. Scenario: Jack pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.
    1956 – Vice Principal comes over, takes a look at Jack’s rifle, goes to his car and gets his to show Jack.
    2006 – School goes into lockdown, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.
    Good timing kate maybe if the teachers carried weapons none would have died.
    They should after all bear the responsibility for the diversity of our society, Gamil Gharbi, Kimveer Gill,
    Liberalism has made society more dangerous they need to accept responsibility. So when this happens, they should shoot back.
    Virginia Tech student Blake Harrison said he was on his way to class near Norris Hall when he saw chaos.
    “This teacher comes flying out of Norris, he’s bleeding from his arm or his shoulder …
    Instead of running the teachers should do some shooting, with 5 round mags of course.

  48. If you are so filled with hate (as most leftards are) that you don’t trust yourself to use a gun responsibly that is fine. Don’t get a gun. But do not tell me that I must be rendered defenseless because of your own inability and unwillingness to defend yourself and your family.
    Sorry. I wasn’t going to get political on this one but I could bite my lip no longer.
    There is one reason, and one reason only that this monster was able to kill and injure so many people without being stopped. Nobody on campus had the ability to stop an armed killer.
    Ever notice that these guys never go and shoot up a police station?

  50. MaryM
    Well put.
    The question remains how can society stop someone who is so blinded by sadness, rage, humiliation, etc. from going on a rampage like this?
    This kid was a terrorist.
    I wonder if, like many others, he left a murder/suicide note stating why he did what he did.
    Did his parents/guardians not notice he was having trouble coping with school/life?
    Too many of us don’t pay enough attention to signs that are there.
    No, no one is to blame for these killings but the shooter himself, but there are no doubt behaviors that this man exhibited that should have raised some red flags to those around him.

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