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1. Excellent point Kate. You can bet that this concept will get picked up quickly by the states, although the govenment already is looking to change the dynamic of middle east dependency.
   About the only party that could screw this up for Alberta would be the Liberals.

2. In this economic model your CONservative party memberships should be discounted.

3. “Canadian oil is, dare I say it, much more progressive than Saudi oil”
   ************
   Geez… not everybody would agree.
   Mr. Layton rose in the Commons on Monday to attack the government
   over subsidies to big oil companies.
   But he tripped over his tongue and instead asked Prime Minister Stephen Harper
   if he would finally cancel subsidies to “big oil and big ass.”
   (Mr. Layton meant to say “big gas.”)
   Mr. Harper jokingly answered that he would “get to the bottom of it.”

4. and the same champagne latte socialists have no problem going to Cuba for their vacations.
   Some “Fair vacation destination” . . . a dictatorship, no freedoms, no civil rights, no freedom of expression, no free press . . print one story saying anything but nicey-nicey about Fidel and the journalist gets frog-marched in front of a kangaroo court and then 24 hrs later tied to a stake in front of a People’s Armey Firing squad.
   Uh huh, a “Fair Location” vacation destination.

5. Good work Sean…
   sigh…well it has been a week and I’ve been watching and waiting ever so patiently for the media to grab this silly statement by Dion, and turn it on him…silly me!

6. which aspects do we want to rate against
   you mean the “issy money” earned at -35
   the “grin ‘ouse gazzes” from Saudi flaring their gas directly to the atmosphere.

7. Good stuff, cal2.
   Has anyone compiled an online glossary or English to English phrasebook for citoyen dion yet?

8. I heard a radio commercial about a program honoring accomplished young Canadians. Some for example had started companies (often web development) while still in their early teens. Why is it ok for me to purchase the services of a web development company run by a 13 year old in Canada and not ok to purchase coffee picked by a 13 year old in Columbia? Especially as the Canadian will not starve if he doesn’t get money where as the kid working in the third world country really needs the money for food, clothing and shelter!

9. Here in B.C., we’re a better, more caring people than the Albertans, who rape and pillage the earth in the name of holy OIL! Workers are exploited, I saw an add for a welder in Ft.McMurray, the capitalist dogs offered the peon-to-be an insulting $45 per hour!
   We too, have oil, off the West Coast, but, rather than exploit the working classes, and destroy the environment, we leave it under the sea! We are wonderful. We may be God’s chosen people, but, as most of us are atheists,He hasn’t given us a definitive statement on this.
   Some day, if all goes well, we will once again live as nature intended, gathering herbs, roots, and berries from the forest, and living under the gentle shelter of towering cedar trees.
   Where we will put our “Starbucks”, I’m not sure yet.

10. dmorris….that may be how the moonbat/dipper crowd would wish us to live…but they prefer 4000 sq ft log cabins, with 2 diesel volvos parked in the 2 km driveway…..oh ya, I forgot, they recycle, therefore they are saving the world….MOONBAT IDIOTS!

11. Good point Kate. It is too bad that Alberta oil isn’t supplied in Ontario and east of there. The American market is of course closer. If Canada cannot be free of foreign oil at least we can assist our American neighbours to provide a secure source.

12. Good point Kate. It is too bad that Alberta oil isn’t supplied in Ontario and east of there. The American market is of course closer. If Canada cannot be free of foreign oil at least we can assist our American neighbours to provide a secure source.

13. Fritz, re: “Why is it ok for me to purchase the services of a web development company run by a 13 year old in Canada and not ok to purchase coffee picked by a 13 year old in Columbia? Especially as the Canadian will not starve if he doesn’t get money where as the kid working in the third world country really needs the money for food, clothing and shelter!”
    Because Fritz, in the minds of the righteously politically correct, there is a price to pay for everything, by everyone, innocent or not. In this case, the unanticipated results of the RPCnics, ie kids in 3rd world countries slowly starving to death, is a small price to pay for the peace of mind that comes over the latte crowd from knowing that at least the kids weren’t being exploited in some sweatshop or plantation.
    🙂

14. Anyone see the photo of the jungle woman/animal or whatever, on Drudge. Take a good look, that is what the algorsusuki people want you to live like. At least she has never used a product that used child labor. And who is over there watching all those companies to make sure no child is exploited. Certain people can say anything and the moonbat crowd will follow, no questions asked. Is that Heidi babe ever getting raked over the coals by the general public over her stmt on TWC. There are more intelligent people posting than I thought possible, making very good points re global warming and the false science behind it. As they say, follow the money. Now that it is being laughed at, can the truth be far behind.

15. “Fair Trade” coffee (if I remember correctly) has very little to do with child labour and more to do with the consequences of coffee growing. From my (very limited) understanding, many farmers in poorer nations switched from growing grains to producing coffee because (at the time) the prices on coffee were high enough that it was the “perfect” cash crop; eventually enough of the farmers switched over to coffee that the price of coffee was reduced and most coffee farmers had difficulty feeding their families.
    The ultimate solution would be for the farmers to switch back to grains (or whatever) but the unfortuante problem is that the coffee plant destroys the soil underneith it so after you start growing coffee all that will grow is coffee. Fair Trade coffee is supposed to pay coffee farmers a fair value for their crop so they can live well.

16. Sean…good points
    I wonder what would happen if we imposed a tax on oil imported from nations that fund terrism and allocate those funds to support the armed forces of the USA, Canada, the UK and others who are spending huge amounts on security to protect us?
    Why are we not taxing all imports of oil in the Western world from Iran when they are pursuing a path to develop nuclear weapons that can destroy us?

17. Steady Eddy is going to review the royalty regime. Right now royalties are paid at the well or at the tarsands fieldgate.
    I propose that the royalties be collected at the Alberta Border.-10% flat rate. There are maybe 2 dozen “export”points. Refining would come to Alberta with the 10% cheaper crude. No greenhouse gases would be produced in the sensitive provinces and it will be easier to disengage from the ROC.
    and Canaduh could meet its greenhouse gas commitments by axing the Alberta Advantage Acrimonious Acidgas A$$holes.

18. Fritz: Why is it ok for me to purchase the services of a web development company run by a 13 year old in Canada and not ok to purchase coffee picked by a 13 year old in Columbia? Especially as the Canadian will not starve if he doesn’t get money where as the kid working in the third world country really needs the money for food, clothing and shelter!
    Possibly it has something to do with the fact that the 13 year old in Canada is in all likelihood an entrepreneur running her own side business while attending elementary school, while the 13 year old in Columbia is being paid far less than a liveable wage to perform hard physical labour day after day, the fruits of which are purchased at cheap wholesale prices and sold with massive mark-ups for profit by coffee retailers.
    That retailers like Starbuck’s, Second Cup, and Tim Horton’s profit at all from this system is not the problem. At issue–and one that Fair Trade aims to address–is the massive and inequitable gap between what the 13 year old coffee bean picker earns and what the Starbuck executive earns. By selling beans at an above-market price (the market price being below living wage standards), Fair Trade seeks to distribute the profits of the coffee industry a little more equitably between those working at the upstream agricultural production end of the system and those working closer downstream in the corporate retail end.

19. Ah, yes — the *easy*money*.
    I’ll have to remember that, the next time I’m working a 14-hour day, and it’s minus 42. On days like that, I almost don’t feel like getting my tools from the trunk of my Bentley. Besides, I get my chaufeur to do that for me.
    Thanks for reminding me, Monsieur Dion.
    P.S. you might want to promote your “fair-trade” oil idea at treehugger.com — they go ga-ga for that stuff.

20. “Fair Trade coffee (if I remember correctly) has very little to do with child labour and more to do with the consequences of coffee growing.”
    You’re probably right. It’s entirely possible that I’ve mixed up “fair trade” with “conscious consumerism”. All I really know is that my coffee tastes better when it’s picked by exploited children.

21. You have to ask yourself. Are the liberals trying to break up the Country purposly. I mean it couldent be done better, unless you had years of planning.
    If they do & say things like this while out of power, one shudders to think of them with the reins of it again with these Burglers, with the combination to the safe in there greedy paws once again.

22. Sean-All I really know is that my coffee tastes better when it’s picked by exploited children.
    That would be funny if it wasn’t sincere.

23. Ah yes the idiotic lefties that are out to save a 5 billion year old planet from the evils of capitalism, and make all their great pronouncements on how to save the planet, from a city {VICTORIA] where they pump raw sewage into the ocean, are at it again. Could it be people in Victoria are sending free trade shit directly into the food sources of our sea food. AH YES THAT WOULD MAKE IT BETTER! Free trade shit, so much better than that exploited shit. You Lieberals and New Dopers just amaze me, why don’t you all take the Tooker Gomberg challenge!

24. Sean- “All I really know is that my coffee tastes better when it’s picked by exploited children”
    People really ought to talk to their grandparents more than they criticize. A good number of them put in a man’s days work being ‘exploited” to help put food on the table – and their children were the better for it.
    There is a saying that applies here – “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.”
    Or the better.
    “Exploited” children who help their families earn enough to eat by picking coffee beans for minimal wages are better off than unexploited children lying before the TV cameras with flies crawling in their eyes begging for “a dollar a day” or sold into sex slavery servicing pedophiles on holiday.
    And they are arguably better off than those 25 year old “children” still sitting before computer games in the basements of their mother’s homes waiting for life to find them.

25. **”Exploited” children who help their families earn enough to eat by picking coffee beans for minimal wages are better off than unexploited children lying before the TV cameras with flies crawling in their eyes begging for “a dollar a day” or sold into sex slavery servicing pedophiles on holiday.**
    Exactly. And Kate nails it as usual.

26. Here’s a very interesting documentary about the “fair trade” craze, which presents a more skeptical view. It can be viewed on-line. Just select from the menu to the left, on the bottom, “play movie”.
    A Bitter Aftertaste:
    http://www.worldwrite.org.uk/bitter/index.htm

27. “Exploited” children who help their families earn enough to eat by picking coffee beans for minimal wages are better off than unexploited children lying before the TV cameras with flies crawling in their eyes begging for “a dollar a day” or sold into sex slavery servicing pedophiles on holiday.
    Wouldn’t paying workers in the Global South a sufficiently liveable wage, such that their children could attend school rather than help contribute to the family’s income, be better still? Not a perfect solution–for either the coffee company, whose profits would be lower than their theoretical max, or the workers, who would still lack real selling power within the globalized economy–but still better, no?

28. Kate,
    Excellent analogy. If there was a way they could guarantee it there is definitley room for that kind of packaging.
    I agree you could get a premium for it. It would be a way for some smart downstream oil company to sell this.
    However, small problem, they can pretty much sell everything they produce so why bother, unlike coffee.
    IT never ceases to amaze me that Citgo is able to maintain any sales in the US given that it is a Venezualan government company.

29. SEAN you’ve hit the nail on the head.
    Now a question for the Myopic progressive crowds. How many child workers have you starved through ‘ethical’ investments?

30. Welcome to the new standard of conscience where you can absolve yourself of any sin or responsibility by simply paying more!
    This has all the earmarks of the recent “greenwashing” fad where consumers have been duped into believing the language on the package instead of following up with the proper research.

31. Saudis Pressing Oil Prices Down
    Oil prices are hitting recent lows. Today, oil slid to $50.28 a barrel. That’s a 20-month low.
    [ or how Sunni Saudis move to deflate the Shiia of Iran = TG]
    It is interesting to note that in November of last year, Nawaf Obaid, an adviser to the Saudi Arabian government, wrote in the Washington Post that Saudi Arabia would not sit idly by as Iraq’s Sunni population was mistreated by the current Shia majority backed by the Iranians.
    Obaid warned, ominously, that the Saudis could boost oil production, cutting oil prices by 50 percent or more.
    Obaid suggested this move would harm Iran, which has less financial reserves that the Saudi kingdom.
    Interestingly, the price of oil has fallen rather precipitously since Obaid’s column.
    *To me, it was kind of striking how immediately the additional weakness in oil prices followed that article,* said Mellon Financial chief economist Richard B. Hoey. *It raises the question of what are the real intentions of Saudi Arabia about oil prices.*
    It appears that the Saudis, no longer confident of American protection (as agreed in their 1944 treaty with America), are attempting to take matters into their own hands by coaxing the world oil price downwards.
    We feel that the Saudis are trying to *bleed* Iran of oil revenues and partially stifle the vital funding of the Iranian (Shiite) threat.
    Israel also is particularly worried about the increasing prospect of a repeat of the holocaust, this time at the hands of Islam. Losing confidence in America’s political will and looking at an aggressive Iran – with its terrorist arm (Hezbollah) on its northern boarder — Israel feels it must act.
    We understand that Israel has long planned an air assault on Iran’s nuclear facilities. Indeed, we are led to believe that the system of repeated precision bombing (each bomb digging deeper into the crater of those dropped previously) of Hezbollah positions dug deep in Lebanon was a rehearsal of the bombing methods to be deployed in Iran.
    Of course, Israel can expect covert help from the United States with logistics, intelligence, and diplomatic damage control.
    [Our sources tell us that this attack will be made before the November 2008 American election.] [This with a *grain of salt* =TG]
    ==== NewsMax.com

32. Interesting article here,
    North America Needs an Energy Alliance
    3-nation strategy would balance needs, ecology
    Kotkin
    Special for the republic
    Jan. 21, 2007 12:00 AM
    In the opening decades of the 21st century, virtually all of America’s most critical problems – political, environmental and economic – will be wrapped up within the issue of energy. Energy fuels our deadliest enemies, threatens our environment, and poses a direct challenge to our long-term economic viability.
    What is needed now is a coherent strategy that deals directly with our fundamental geopolitical dilemma: how to grow our economy while reducing our dependence on imported energy and, over time, carbon-emitting fuels.
    We believe there is such a workable strategy. It centers on the creation of a powerful energy alliance among the three great nations of North America: the United States, Canada and Mexico.
    Our proposal
    We envision the formation of a North American Energy Community (NAEC). It seeks to establish common energy policies among three countries that share the fairest stretch of the globe. Each of these nations has enormous technical capacity and great potential energy resources; our economies, ecosystems and populations are increasingly intertwined.
    This commonality, intensified by highways, waterways and air corridors that connect the three nations, should lead us to develop a common energy policy that can meet our long-term and short-term energy challenges. Our basic premise starts with the notion that, for the short term at least, we need to develop domestic fossil fuels. This step, however, needs to be taken with the strongest possible environmental safeguards.-snip-
    As a recent Council of Foreign Relations report concluded, “Virtually everything concerning energy has changed – except U.S. policy.”
    If we continue on this haphazard course, our dependence on foreign petroleum imports is likely to grow, with potentially catastrophic results. Current estimates are that we will increase oil imports from 12.6 million barrels a day today to 16.4 million in 2030. More than half of that is expected to come from OPEC suppliers, with much of the rest from Russia and the Central Asian autocracies.-snip
    Read the rest at,
    3w.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/viewpoints/

33. I don’t even look at price tags, what with all my easy money and all…