Ralph Peters analyzes the recent changes in the U.S. forces commanders:
ASSIGNING a Navy aviator and combat veteran to oversee our military operations in the Persian Gulf makes perfect sense when seen as a preparatory step for striking Iran’s nuclear-weapons facilities
While the media is busy trying to ensure Iraq is lost, it’s encouraging to see the people in charge seriously looking to deal with future threats, if that is indeed what they are doing.
Could you knock it off with the war-mongering? And could you knock off the silly partisan politics as well? Its hard to view either as positive human traits.
I predicted the US will either be in Iran or bombing it before the sprig….and with the full approval of the new warhaw Dems…..all the signs are there…the planted hints in the MSM by Bush cabinate and leading dems.
What seems to have been missed by the MSM is the fact that NOBODY in Iran is happy with its leadership. Not eh Army the Mullahs or the people. The current regime is scared poopless and has reacted with civil tyranny ….like not allowing more than 3 people to talk to each other in public…this has made the situation worse.
If you use your world band radio to listen to the Iranians that are reaching out to the west through shortwave links to European relays, they have been predicting a revolution before the Iranian new year in March.
Regardless id you believe this or not, never was there a regime so rife for civil revolt and overthow as this current Iranian one.
My question is US and UK intell must be aware of this…why is the US forcing an invasion/bombing solution when they could facillitate a coup?
i dont think they will do either…..i think it is pressure and it is working toward encouraging internal change.
iraq taught them a lesson about ccupation, bombing is the most they would do…but that is fraught with danger
“Could you knock it off with the war-mongering? And could you knock off the silly partisan politics as well? Its hard to view either as positive human traits.”
It appears SDA has somebody new calling the shots. Somebody by the name of Dale. Or perhaps Dale thinks personal and independent blogs should be controlled by a committee appointed by Dale. Or should be at least controlled by the CRTC or something. Where are those Liberals when you need them?
Dale, could you please clarify this matter?
The US is not going to do anything about Iran. Bush is a lame duck and would never get congressional support for such a thing. The Europeans are paralyzed. The UN Security Council includes Russia and China who are delighted by the trouble Iran is causing to the West and Israel, so it will not act.
Once Iran demonstrates it possesses nuclear weapons, they will be in the position to dictate terms to the world. I don’t know what those terms will be, but will probably include ending support for Israel. The world will comply. Israel will not last much longer. The price of oil will skyrocket, and umpteen gazillion more dollars will go into funding the global jihad. Buy oil stocks now while oil is cheap. I’m glad I don’t have children.
All of these Lie-beral/Dipper/Commie losers don’t get any traffic to their pathetic little blogs, so in their desperation they post on Kate’s awsome site with a link hoping to suck some blood like the vicious little leaches that they are. Losers! HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!
awful dark view randall.
dont disagree nthing will be done. but i believe iran is more than 2 years from a bomb.
i think there are pressures within that country that will push change sooner rather than later. whether that is before they test a bomb is another issue.
if they want to directly threaten israel they do so at their own peril…..there are israeli nuke subs….mad prevails
e are nuclear armed israeli subs….sneak attacks
It will be either America or Israel . They have no choice. None has been left to them.
With the fruitcake running Iran thinking he’s the messenger of God, to the coming of the Mahdi.
The signal of which. He has made plain will be the utter destruction of the Jews. Thus he satiating over nukes & building them. So I ask who really is the war monger to those appeasers & dhimmi, who can’t wait to bow before the Jihadists?
That’s you by the way liberal or leftie.
What do these nuts think Israel will do? Just allow themselves to be exterminated so the left & there allies the Islamists. Can get about controlling the world for our own good of course, with mercy & toleration for peace!
Yeah sure. I bet the boat people , Armenians, Ukrainians, Jews, the Cambodians, Rwandans, Yugoslavians, Somalia’s, Sudanese, & any who survived the socialist lefts idea of peace. Or the “Religion of peace“ & there idea of justice. Both are collectivist forms of insanity that led to mass murder with social deconstruction & finally economic decay .
As far as I am concerned. The quicker these nuts dreams nuclear bombs are nullified , the better for mankind in general with the whole human race benefiting.
To the bleeding hearts, better that then a stump where you head was if the barbarians take over. Including your own form of the standard luddite.
Excellent post Kate. You may be spot on with this. I hope you ar at any rate.
When Iran has nukes, they will dictate the terms of our surrender? well not if they build rockets like they maintain their jet liners…
I haven’t seen any “happy Iranians” in the media, except for President Poopy Pants in Tehran. When I google this info, the happy Iranians seem to be in the west, and free of the Islamic tyrants.
Keep in mind, the latest war with Lebanon (and Iran by proxy), that Israel was fighting Everyone… all the defenders of the Islamic terror, and if / when the “big fight” comes between an Islamic nuclear armed state, and Israel, that all bets are off. The fight against the media and UN will end, the fight for its existence will begin.
That Israel will not be fighting for some territory or a chunk of respect in the world, It will involve everyone with an interest in the middle east, and Israel will prevail.
If Dale doesn’t like this place there are others which may be more in line with his thinking, they won’t be as informative though.
Truth can be hurtful.
Agree Iraq has made regimes like NK and Iran take pause but hasn’t stopped their posturing. They have to be taken seriously at any rate.
They’re acting like the schoolyard bullies, it works for a while. They better not pull the double dare unless they want to deal with a collective force in the gathering storm.
Debka: Bush Poised to Stake His All on Iraq Victory
DEBKAfile ^ | January 6, 2007
President George W. Bush is poised to stake every US resource to hand on a no-holds-barred military operation all the way to victory in Iraq, after first bringing Baghdad under control. The chips should all be lined up by the time he goes public next week on his new strategy for Iraq and the Middle East at large.
DEBKAfile’s military and Washington sources report that the new Bush policy will brook no look-in for Iran, Syria or Hizballah in Iraq’s affairs. Exceptionally offensive US military resources have been marshaled to bar any interference with the White House’s plans for Iraq. They will under the hand of the military command for instantaneous responses. To this end, the shakeup of military leaders the US president set in motion over the weekend moves into forward position one of the toughest and most hawkish US military leaders.
Adm. William J. Fallon (picture), 62, hitherto supreme commander in the Pacific theater, takes over from Gen. John Abizaid as commander of the US central command which is in charge of the US fronts in Iraq, Afghanistan and against global terrorism. The admiral specializes in deploying large-scale navy, air and Marines forces simultaneously in different arenas.
And the White House is making sure that Adm. Fallon has plenty of resources to deploy, a veritable buildup, the second in four months, in the Persian Gulf and other waters opposite Iran. The USS John C. Stennis strike group is heading for the Persian Gulf with a mighty air arm of 9-10 fighter-bomber squadrons. Saturday, some sources reported that another task force, the USS Ronald Reagan Strike Group, had been ordered out of Sand Diego on Jan. 4 and was heading in the same direction. …-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1763479/posts
Note: debkafile is reputed to be unreliable. …-
While the media is busy trying to ensure Iraq is lost, it’s encouraging to see the people in charge seriously looking to deal with future threats
I agree Kate. Peter “packs-a-punch” Jennings did a horrible job lead the Fightin’ First into Bagdhad.(Though I respect every newsman and women who gave their lives in service to their country).
And the after war planning (or lack thereof!) by everyone in the CNN situation room, yes, even Wolf “The Beard” Blitzer, seemed like they wanted to fail. Most cameramen on the front lines were telling him they were going to need more reporters to quell the after-war unrest, but the bearded one knew best, supposedly…
Don’t even get me started on Anderson “cut and run” cooper! If only he’d thought about the consequences a little more before he decided to disband the Iraqi military, maybe things would be different.
Anyway, I Thank God for the Bush Administration for managing to salvage the mess that the MSM has made of things!
Just listening to Manbridge talking to E.May. She has mentioned we must meet kyoto targets but she has not told us what those targets are or how we could meet them, or what it would cost in dollars or standard of living. Dion has never mentioned those figures either, and neither has the media. All they ever say is kyoto targets. Are cdns so stupid they will vote in a government on two words only. Shouldn’t we at least know what they are talking about and who besides Strong will get all the money. I want May to tell me how sending millions to china/strong will reduce our emissions or clean our air. Global warming/kyoto are the scam of the century. But, considering how many bought into y2k and still fall for the telephone scams, there are a lot of suckers out there.
Dale, maybe here’s another very important reason for all this war-mongerer talk:
Six Arab governments – Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, the United Arab Emirates, and Tunisia – say they will pursue nuclear weapons programs now because Iran’s atomic bombs need to be countered. None of these Arab countries sought nuclear weapons to offset those acquired by Israel. They fear and loathe the Shia of Lebanon and Iran (and most likely Iraq, as well) more than they worry about the Zionists regardless of what they may say.
The wider Sunni-Shia war in the Middle East, whose epicenter now is in Baghdad, may supplant the Arab-Israeli conflict some time in the future. For now, though, the Arab-Israeli conflict is used by both sides of the inter-Islamic divide to score propaganda points against the other.
http://michaeltotten.com/
Sunday Times of London reporting that Israel plans preemptive tactical nuclear strikes on Iran.
Randall, the US does not need additional Congressional approval to attack Iran if the action is limited to 60 days.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1763497/posts
Anyone know which Canadian ship(s) will be replacing the HMCS Ottawa in the new year?
“A large-scale US-Indian sea exercise called Malabar 06 is in progress off the Indian coast of Goa, ending Nov. 5. The American vessels taking part are the USS Boxer carrier, the USS Bunker Hill guided missile battle cruiser, the guided missile destroyer USS Howard and the USS Benfold , as well as the Los Angeles-class nuclear attack submarine Providence and the Canadian guided missile frigate HMCS Ottawa/ .
Hundreds of US and allied war ships foregathered in the strategic seas of the Middle East and India in the last days of October 2006 for two primary missions: To prepare for a US-led military strike against Iran which has stepped up its uranium enrichment program with a second centrifuge project – undeterred by the prospect of UN sanctions; and measures to fend off palpable al Qaeda threats to oil targets.”
3 carrier groups are now in theatre. That is a lot of firepower. Does anyone have a quick analysis of the firepower in 3 carrier groups?
Randall, the US does not need additional Congressional approval to attack Iran if the action is limited to 60 days.
I wouldn’t dispute that this may be technically true; however I still don’t think Bush is going to do anything. Can you even begin to imagine the howls of protest within the US and around the world. You thought the reaction to the Iraq invasion was loud. You ain’t seen nothing yet. Half the US and most of the world think Bush is worse than Hitler. Bush would be immediately impeached, with all Dems and many Repubs in agreement, and I wouldn’t bet against conviction. Bush knows this. There just isn’t the political support or will for another military action.
This may change if Iran does something egregious between now and Jan 20 2009. I think they are smarter than that, so they bide their time. After that date, it will be President Clinton’s problem. Certainly no Democrat will ever take military action without the blessing of the UN, which will of course never happen again. The leftist/Islamist alliance that want to bring down the West are going to win eventually. They have time and demography on their side. We have two good years, maybe a littl more, ahead of us before the sh!t hits the fan. Like I said, buy oil stocks.
Sunday Times of London reporting that Israel plans preemptive tactical nuclear strikes on Iran.
They may even succeed, at first. Unfortunately this will absolutely guarantee the eventual nuclear annihilation of Israel. It doesn’t take many bombs to destroy that small country. Iran has already announced that they believe the trade-off is worth it. I hope Canada will take as many of the surviving Jewish refugees as can get here.
I just read Mark Steyn’s new book. Does it show?
When Iran has nukes, they will dictate the terms of our surrender? well not if they build rockets like they maintain their jet liners…
Iran doesn’t need rockets to destroy half the world’s oil supply, nor do they need a very sophisticated weapon. Frank Herbert said it well in Dune: “He who can destroy a thing, can control a thing.”
“All of these Lie-beral/Dipper/Commie losers don’t get any traffic to their pathetic little blogs”
Have you checked the Technorati Top Ten lately?
Have you checked the Technorati Top Ten lately?
Why, are the local Lie-beral/Dipper/Commie losers that post on this site in that list? I’ll admit I didn’t bother checking.
Randall:
President Clinton in 2009? That is laughable at best; she is MORE polarizing than President Bush. Nothing will motivate the Republican base more than a Hillary run. Empty vessel Obama has more of a chance than Hillary. I see a President Mitt Romney in 2009. You saw it here first!
That said, Israel, the US, China, etc. all have “plans” to use nukes against a variety of threats.
I agree that there would be howls of protest if Bush preemptively attacked Iran, but the article states it will be Israel. Since Israel is hated and demonized by everyone anyway, it will be kinda hard to ostracize and villify them more than they already are. I also state again that Bush does not need Congressional approval for a campaign that lasts less than 90 days.
3 carrier groups though….
Also, since Iranian agents have already been caught targeting US/Brit/Iraqi forces, is that not technically an act of war? Hate to say it, but the allies and Iran are already at war, even if the left refuses to believe it. War broke out in 1979 when they siezed US territory (embassy).
You can choose to deny the statements from the Iranian leadership about destroying Israel, but apparently some countries might not be willing to wait around to find it if it is just rhetoric or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9oX5Q2ftmA
STUCK MOJO – CAIR REMIX
Iran IS part of the problem.
I find that the “revelation” that Israel has plans for a strike on Iran a pathetic attempt to make news. Anyone who doesn’t believe that battle plans for any possible military scenario have been made is totally naive. That’s what generals do besides polishing their medals. State departments do the same so when the leadership of a country (or group like NATO, NORAD etc). Geesh!
How does attacking Iran now help? We might destroy their emerging nuclear capability, but maybe not. Remember the search for WMDs in Iraq.
This is a bigger proposition that people realize.
Iran has a good military, buy third world standards. They have Kilo class submarines, and God help our frigates alone on station, thanks to the EH-101 helicopter cancellation, hence the gutting of our ASW capability, and, more importantly, the ability of the ship to protect itself from submarine launched (conventional) cruise missiles. The Sikorsky sky junk is years away and is already obsolete.
Anyway, I don’t see Bush getting away with attacking Iran, even if he wants to. I know there are several commentators who assure us he will attack. How can he without control of Congress. Remember the Democrat establishment, except Howard Dean “supported” the invasion of Iraq. They couldn’t stop it and got to blame it on Bush anyway, taking control of Congress. There is also a “fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame of me,” reticence among the American public. No benefit of the doubt for Bush here.
So, regardless of his technically legal means of waging war, public opinion and Congress will not be with him this time. He will only end up embarrased.
In response to dale:
“Could you knock it off with the war-mongering?”
Thanks for the advice buddy! Now how ’bout you go say the same thing to Mr. Ahmadenijad, hmmm?
“The Avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.”
Shamrock, I am not sure if you read my previous posts, but President Bush does NOT need Congressional approval for a short-term conflict. It is irrelevant if Congress supports such an action or not. He ALREADY has approval.
Besides, the article implies that Israel will attack first. Let us assume hypothetically that they do (which is still very debatable), Iran would most certainly attack US interests thus giving the US the MORAL authority to reciprocate in kind. (Bush already has the LEGAL authority.)
Further, Iran has already declared war on the US. Attacking US troops and plotting attacks is in itself an act of war. As was the taking of the US embassy in 1979. I could also probably qualify that they have declared war on Israel. Must I enumerate these acts of aggression also?
Must I cite sources?
With all due respect to the above posters who feel that Bush/Israel won’t attack Iran for whatever reasons…..You be fooled!
Regardless of the new Congress’s leanings….the POTUS, ie; president of the United States of america, can and will attack if so justified. He has all the constitutional powers to do so. Even as a lame-duck, he still is commander-in-chief of the military. He can and will do whatever is nessessary to protect US interests, at home or abroad as he is under oath to do so.
We Canadians and others outside of the US are so quick to condem Bush for any number of reasons, but the simple fact remains: He will continue to have the power to act unilaterally right up until he is replaced from office.
That being said, the bigger picture remains. Is Iran a real threat? If so, then sooner is better. There is no reason to hold back from a full-scale conventional attack on Iran’s nuclear industry. The technology and ability to target purely strategic targets is well-within the ability of US/Israeli/NATO capabilities.
We, as armchair observers of geo-political events are want to know, the real game is played behind closed doors. Even France and other pacifist countries may say one thing in public, but the real decisions about the end-game are decided by military and strategic thinkers. The threat of Iranian nukes is real and very dangerous. No doubt all available intelligence assets have been utilized to the max already, targets identified, plans formulated. We, as mere citizens, are but by-standers to the event to unfold as our political masters deem fit. To think otherwise is pure folly.
The freedom of the western world is at stake, no dramitization of that is required, its just fact. By now the attack plans are already complete….all that is required to start it in motion is an act by Iran or a trumped-up provocation to justify it in the eyes of the world. It isn’t an ‘IF’, but a when. It will happen. This will not be a USA act of aggression, but a carefully planned attack, given the ‘nod’ by all of the western world. It is in everyone’s best interest, except Russia and China..and the radical Islamist’s.
The attack, when it comes, will be a surgical strike with the ‘shock and awe’ of the Iraqi campaign, but with pre-established subversive elements already in place to support the internal over-throw of the current regime. This plan has had decades of pre-planning with frequent up-dates as circumstances change.
Let me repeat: This will not be a unilateral American operation, regardless of the press reports. Silent support, with outward condemnation will be the order of the day. Each nation outwardly ‘opposed’ to it will have a multitude of reasons for showing opposition, but they will all play along. It’s vitally nessessary to the survival of the western econnomy. The G-8 will insist.
This is my learned view of the big picture, you may be gullible enough to dis-agree, but I suspect you will be talking out your ass in hind-sight…..call me on this in a year’s time, K?
>”Could you knock it off with the war-mongering? And could you knock off the silly partisan politics as well? Its hard to view either as positive human traits.
Posted by: dale at January 6, 2007 12:15 PM””This is my learned view of the big picture, you may be gullible enough to dis-agree, but I suspect you will be talking out your ass in hind-sight…..call me on this in a year’s time, K?
Posted by: arctic_front at January 6, 2007 10:00 PM”
The subsequent zoom in oil prices in 1999 afforded Iran fiscal breathing room but does not solve Iran’s structural economic problems. Iran’s current president Ahmadinejad has promised sweeping economic reform, including widespread social services and an elimination of Iran’s stock market.
economyofiran.quickseek.com/
Closing down the Iranian stock market?
Talk about a blind hatred of Western ideas.
=TG
Pakistan has Nukes . . . so..
Iran-Pakistan Boost Ties
Jan 6, 2007
A senior Pakistani lawmaker voiced his country’s support for the construction of Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline, stressing that Tehran-Islamabad cordial ties will enter a new phase following the endorsement of the pipeline construction contract.
Chairman of the Foreign Policy Commission of Pakistan’s Senate Mushahid Hussein made the remarks in a meeting with the chairman of the Iranian parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Alaoddin Boroujerdi here on Saturday.
iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_20013.shtml
= TG
Arctic front said” We, as armchair observers of geo-political events are want to know, the real game is played behind closed doors. Even France and other pacifist countries may say one thing in public, but the real decisions about the end-game are decided by military and strategic thinkers. The threat of Iranian nukes is real and very dangerous. No doubt all available intelligence assets have been utilized to the max already, targets identified, plans formulated. We, as mere citizens, are but by-standers to the event to unfold as our political masters deem fit. To think otherwise is pure folly.”
Nothing to add to the crystal clarity of this sit-rep…..except in a populist/democratic civil dimension. Seeing how modern war technology and strategies make civilian populations of warring nations either primary or secondary targets….and the fact that modern MD and Hi-tech warfare strategies are designed around the threat of civilian casualty rates as a deterrent and the ability to inflict the most human casualties (combative and non combative) as a tactical demoralizing effect….does it not seem highly immoral that the civilians who are held as pawns in the global power politics game plan have no input into the closed door covert policy their elected reps engage in?
AF, I won’t argue that closed door politics/policy is how most domestic and all foreign policy is conducted by western democracies now…this is self evident. But as a libertarian populist republican I deeply resent it. I resent my life being used as a pawn in a exclusive global chess game between elites.
Frankly, from a purely democratic perspective when elected reps conspire to subvert democratic consensus and public will and make policy in secret (which goes wrong and negatively effects the lives of constituents), a good case could be made that this constitutes the highest form of treason and breach of office….. the victimized/exploited constituents reserve the moral right to not only depose such elitist policy cabals…but arrest, try and drag these treasonous dogs out on the front lawns of their closed door policy rooks and hang them in public….as a deterrent to other would-be tyrants and imperialists.
Populists further realize that at a stratigic level in these anti-democratic closed door policy sessions the political empowerment and worth of a citizen/civilian is little more than a casualty stat on the score sheet or a tax slave to milk for the funds to carry it off….and at the higher level where a small economic oligarchy which empowers and control this elite covert governing strategy council, civilians on either side of a WMD tech war are just numbers of “worthless eaters” to write down to collateral warfare damage….and this is a good thing in their closed door population planning which has pegged global civilian population at an optimal 500,000,000. In this frame of reference and oligarchic mindset, there is a lot of capacity for civilian collateral damage when planning a war strategy.
Unfortunately, this untouchable non elected governing oligarchy is ensconced in layers of security which precludes the people from extracting civil justice in trying them for treason….another crystal clear reality of modern ruling class politics in western nations
“The freedom of the western world is at stake, no dramitization of that is required, its just fact.”I/i>
I for one, am saddened and ashamed that the entire freedom of the Western world can be lost should Iran aquire a nuke. How did they find out about the sweet spot? You know, the one spot on the earth where if a single nuke is dropped all of western civilization will just fall down into the middle of the earth. I bet you the New York Times told them.
Iran with a nuke is so terrifying I fear for our very existence. I said the same thing about North Korea a few years back, but then I got all caught up in “Deal or No Deal” and forgot about it for a while. But now. Now it’s time to call for the bombing of some brown people because they’re threatening our very survival. Down with Allabalabingbang!
Mike, I read your post. I know that Bush can attack Iran now. Doesn’t mean he will, or more likely, IMO probably won’t.
I don’t care if he, legally or otherwise, can now. He won’t for reasons I have given.
Don’t need you to cite sources.
Israel is categorically denying they plan to attack Iran.
You know, the one spot on the earth where if a single nuke is dropped all of western civilization will just fall down into the middle of the earth.
That one spot is the middle east oilfields. One nuke will send the entire economy of the world into a deep depression. You will suffer greatly as will I. You may not be able to afford your daily Starbucks latte. Have I put it in terms you can understand?
That one spot is the middle east oilfields. One nuke will send the entire economy of the world into a deep depression. You will suffer greatly as will I. You may not be able to afford your daily Starbucks latte. Have I put it in terms you can understand?
Yes. Western Freedom means good paying jobs and tasty lattes. That’s what I meant when I said it’s too bad we can loose all our Freedom from one nuke. Freedom to buy expensive coffee with whip cream.
Oh and way to go and tell EVERYONE the sweetspot. Your Official “Kim Jong Il Fan Club” Card is in the mail.
Yes. Western Freedom means good paying jobs and tasty lattes.
You may think that’s of no value. I disagree.
That’s what I meant when I said it’s too bad we can loose all our Freedom from one nuke. Freedom to buy expensive coffee with whip cream.
So what’s the alternative? You want to live in a hunter/gatherer/subsistence economy? Somehow I doubt it.
Oh and way to go and tell EVERYONE the sweetspot. Your Official “Kim Jong Il Fan Club” Card is in the mail.
I don’t believe NK can cause anywhere near the damage Iran can. So what is your point anyway? That there is nothing to be concerned about if Iran obtains nuclear weapons???
So what’s the alternative? You want to live in a hunter/gatherer/subsistence economy? Somehow I doubt it.
If I could think of some alternative other than a Booming Capitalist economies that give most people the ability to buy $4.00 cups of coffee OR hunting and gathering, clearly I would have offered it. But there is none. Thus, when I mock those who claim that an Iranian nuke is the end of the western world as we know it, indeed I am arguing for you to get some string and sharpen a spear. Buck up! Spear that buck! And while your at it you may as well worship our new Iranian overlords, who with their mighty nuke (perhaps three) overthrew the west, survived a devastating counter-attack (seems we forgot to carry a one when solving Y2K), and spread the word of Allah around the globe.
I don’t believe NK can cause anywhere near the damage Iran can.
Is it because they can’t drop their five nukes where Iran can drop its one or two OR is it because you have it on good authority that KJI is really just going to use them as part of the grand finale at the premiere of his next play?
So what is your point anyway? That there is nothing to be concerned about if Iran obtains nuclear weapons???
My point lies somewhere between a total lack of concern over Iran, eg. high fiving them on the way to the nuclear power club, and total despair that a nuclear armed Iran spells the end of Western democracies as we know it, eg. the postes who’s comments I originally quoted.
I can’t spell it out in so many words… but instinct tells me that reasonable people are probably hiding somewhere in between those two extremes.
But truthfully I probably don’t have a point and just come here for the pretzels. SDA readers rarely pay attention to the “Don’t feed the moonbats” signs posted all around.
SDA readers rarely pay attention to the “Don’t feed the moonbats” signs posted all around.
I don’t usually pay attention to that sign, but your last post is so incoherent I think I’ll just leave it sitting there. My overall point is not that Iran will actually DESTROY or OVERTHROW the West, just that they will be in the position to cause a lot of pain, and that will give them a huge ability to blackmail us, especially since they know that most of the West would rather appease than face them down. And unlike North Korea, being religious fanatics, there is ultimately nothing that can deter them here in the real world. We have no experience coping with this sort of thing. We assume the Mullahs of Iran are motivated by the same things we are. They aren’t.
Drudge reports that Iran is threatening to cut off oil exports, and Belarus is stopping oil from Russia. Maybe if this keeps up industry will have to make changes, and we can thank Belarus and Iran for stopping ghg. Layton and Dion will not like getting the credit for this. Of course, it is all Bush’s fault.