If You Can’t Close Down An Illegal Barricade

Then close down the critics.
According to the site owners, the Caledonia Wakeup Call website has been served with a demand that it be shut down by 5:00 pm today, from the OPPA, the union for the OPP officers.
Ordinarily, I might side with the OPPA on this. But as they’ve shown precious little concern for the safety and security of the residents of Caledonia, (much less the repeated demands of the judge to execute a court order) I’m taking a pass on this one.

73 Replies to “If You Can’t Close Down An Illegal Barricade”

  1. Sorry for the blank comment.
    Now then.
    Here’s the deal, when the OPP decides to enforce one court order the web site will then be obligated to respect the other.

  2. Gimbol, you mean not all court orders are carried out the same? \sarcasm off

  3. I think the OPPA’s beef is with OPP brass and the Ontario Liberal government.
    I see nothing wrong with “WANTED: for services not rendered” and “Return your Pay.”
    After all, they’re not doing their jobs.

  4. someone should ‘splain to them how the blogshere works.
    This little scam they are pulling will just morph into a battlecry for the bloggers to multiply and make free speeach happen.
    kinda like the Adscam enquiry where hundreds of blogs linked to Captains Ed and Canadian law couldn’t do anything.
    speaking of Adscam . . . Paul Coffin served just 3 months of an 18 month sentence and was released form jail this week . . .

  5. With $ 100,000.00 TaxPayer $ Still Missing Will OPP ever Find It ? (Score: 0)
    by Guest on Sunday, July 09 @ 11:58:40 EDT
    Maybe
    Petition calls for firing of OPP head
    Jul. 8, 2006. 01:00 AM
    JESSICA LEEDER AND RICHARD BRENNAN
    STAFF REPORTERS
    A petition demanding that the head of the Ontario Provincial Police be immediately fired for her handling of a sometimes-violent ongoing land-claim dispute in Caledonia has begun circulating on the Internet.
    “We, the people of Ontario, demand the immediate removal of OPP Commissioner Gwen Boniface for failure to protect the people of Caledonia. The Commissioner has failed to protect the power station, bridges, roads, homes and the citizens of Caledonia,” the petition reads.
    The allegations against Boniface stem from a five-month native protest over a disputed parcel of land that was under development on the edge of Caledonia, a town of about 10,000 south of Hamilton.
    Throughout that time, protestors have erected blockades severing several Caledonia roads, a historic railway bridge was burned and more than $1 million in damage was caused when a car was smashed into a hydro transformer, cutting off power to the town for days.
    Those incidents led to numerous scuffles between protestors and townspeople, but only a handful of arrests have been made.
    Boniface has been heavily criticized by politicians, residents, the Ontario Provincial Police Association and even some officers for her direction — or perceived lack thereof — since the protest began last February.
    Her office did not return a call requesting comment yesterday. She has yet to speak publicly on the issue.
    However, Boniface and OPP officials have held recent meetings in Caledonia, including one this week with representatives of the Caledonia Citizens’ Alliance, a grassroots group.
    Ken Hewitt, a spokesman for the group, said Boniface told him the OPP are launching a plan to try to rebuild credibility in the community.
    “So long that there is an occupation present, it will be virtually impossible to get the people of Caledonia to truly support the OPP,” he said. “The community does recognize that it is not the local detachment and the poor officers who have made Caledonia their home (who are) responsible, but it will be them that are left with the mess,” he said.
    “They made it very clear to us that although their mandate is to enforce the law, the mandate in Caledonia is to maintain the peace and that they are in fact peacekeepers.”
    So far, the petition has garnered support from more than 650 people from Caledonia and beyond.
    The online petition, which can be found at http://www.petitiononline.com/Caledon1/petition.html, also includes comments, some from people who claim to be former OPP officers.
    One said he was “totally ashamed of my former profession.”
    Another wrote: “As an ex-OPP, I feel she (Boniface) is a disgrace to the force.”
    Caledonia resident Quentin Wolsley said in an interview that he and his wife, Judith, a Grade 8 teacher, signed the petition to express how poorly they feel the provincial government and OPP have handled the protest.
    He said the couple are “passive,” but as the situation escalated, both found it difficult to explain to their young daughter — and Judith to her students — why protestors weren’t being punished for lighting tire fires on the highway, digging up the road and other acts.
    “The OPP have just stood aside,” Wolsley said, adding he thinks their approach would change if Boniface resigned. “She has to,” he said. “The majority here are living in fear.”
    At a special court hearing on Wednesday, Justice David Marshall heard that the title of the disputed property — previously held by private Caledonia developer Henco Industries Ltd. — has been transferred to the province in exchange for an initial payment of $12.3 million.
    An additional payment, based on fair market value, will be negotiated ov … more
    http://www.thehaltonherald.ca/phpnuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=14

  6. Fred warns ’em, but did they listen?
    Noooooooo!
    So now Neale News has picked up the story and is linking to Caledonia Wakeup Call.

  7. Wow, the videos on that site are scary. Police didn’t do anything about the crimes and then let the situation get way out of hand because they didn’t do their job in the first place. How can the officers argue that they did their job when it is to protect the public and punish crime. I saw neither happening in those situations. I just can’t believe they stood by and watched it. Makes me very nervous to watch. Surprised the situation did not get more out of control.
    For the union to now try and silence what is obviously the truth is an awful perversion of justice. Do your jobs in the first place and you won’t have a problem.

  8. solution:
    put the web site on a foreign host out of reach then claim disownership.
    umpteen ways of bypassing the cops’ pet preferences.
    it is now 4 pm. 1 hour before martial law is declared, printing presses are smashed etc etc.
    oops, wrong era.
    not really.

  9. The OPP should have realized that just because they stood by protecting the helpless terrorists, the people were not cowed into submission. This is a red flag in front of a bull. I thought police forces had profilers working for them. Surely they could see the response to their attack of a web site would be news all across Canada? Dumb and dumber. Watch the free speech flow now. Don’t mess with the people.

  10. OPP just another simple servant government lap dog. What ever happened to the police that were supposed to protect and serve the public?

  11. I am the owner of this website – http://www.CaledoniaWakeUpCall.com.
    The website is hosted in the USA without my name being listed – I give out my name now only because it has already been printed in newspapers. This site would have already been closed down by now but has been delayed because OPPA had to pressure the USA host to give out my name. They clearly want my name, address etc. to file papers against us. Bluehost, to their credit, has refused to release information about us to anyone.

  12. ‘I’m taking a pass on this one.’
    Don’t Kate you could be next then what will I do at work,
    I mean during breaks.

  13. good link….at least we can get some info coming out of caledonia. were is the great protector of the public know as MSM. they have’nt even come close to this kind of reportage. never will in my opinion. think i’ll find me a bridge to burn down.

  14. Fred: Good link but scary as the snow ball effect starts. Peaceful protest seems to be I break the law and when the police tell me stop I ignore them because they won’t touch me as I’m native. This is just getting stupid and someone better put a stop to it.

  15. Hey, JackFish, if you see this post… can we agree on one thing at least… that there is no immediately apparent evidence that the OPP is the greatest police force in the world?
    RCMP: I’ll defer to your greater knowledge… OPP?
    Harrumph.

  16. Might be we want to keep our eyes on both Lebanon, Israel and the response from the continuing kidnapping and terrorism from Hamas and Hezbollah….Israel is being treated once again just like the citizens of Caledonia. : You are NOT allowed to defend yourselves or to speak the truth. Terrorists are to be protected and have excuses made for them.
    There is NO excuse for how little the OPP realized their responsibility in the Caledonia situation and NO excuse for their refusal to uphold the law, protect law abiding citizens and enforce a COURT ORDER…. yet now that their gross negligence is ‘out in the open’ ( as though we were not watching this all the time via the Net, as precious little was ever reported in the Mainstream News) they want to intimidate and force law abiding citizens to shut down their right to voice their feelings and get the truth out.
    And we don’t live in a ‘police state’. It sure has all the earmarks of one, if not in name, then certainly in practice. Caledonia was watched carefully by others in the aboriginal community to see how far they could push. They see. Now they are about doing, and it won’t bode well for our rights and freedoms for all of us who are ‘non’ aboriginal and there are a helluva lot of US whose taxes go to pay for the law to protect us from this outrageous nonsense.
    For Israel, just as Caledonia citizens have the right, has an absolute right to defend herself and it is high time she did just that and to it’s rightful conclusion.
    I would like Israel to RE-take Gaza and all lands they gave back after the gains they made in the 67 war. Unless and until Syria and Iran stop funding the terrorists and causing all the grief of terrorism both in Israel and Iraq Israel is within her rights to do what she ought and what she must.
    Caledonia citizens have no less rights. It is unfortunate and criminal that the police who are supposed to protect these citizens are now part of the problem instead the catalyst to solving it. They are cowards and shameful and every last one of them should be fired right along with Dalton and anybody else who supports this complete abandonment of Caledonia citizens.
    But for the Grace of God go we. So we had better exhibit clearly our support of Caledonia citizens and denounce this complete miscarriage of justice for them and their town, businesess and homes.

  17. As it is coming up to 6pm Pacific, looks like they have shut down the website. What was accessible mere moments ago is no longer.
    Interesting how vigorous the OPPA can pursue their interests legally and their members seem not to know what their responsibilities are or how to ‘vigorously’ pursue THEM!
    I am sure the citizens of Caledonia would like to see THEIR rights defended so digilently!!

  18. So much for freedom of expression. OPPA, kiss my hairy fat pimply ass, and try to do a better job of that than you did at Caladonia!
    Heres hoping that the site pops up again soon.

  19. Looks like the site has indeed been shut down whether voluntarily or through pressure. The O.P.P.
    is an embarassment to not only Caledonian residents but all of Canada. The officers could have declared political interference and all handed in their resignations.
    As it is they stood and watched as millions of dollars of private and public property were destroyed, as seniors were beaten, as reporters and fellow American enforcement officals were beaten, tand unfortunately to their discredit the list is endless.

  20. The Palestinians see that the rule of law doesn’t work and they have taken a different course of action.
    We see this in the Native struggles here at home. Why, as the commisions have stated, that through corrupt courts the land was stolen from the Owners why would you go back to the courts?
    If you don’t like the laws move somewhere else. I hear ya’ll complaining about how things are done, move to the states. Many in my family had to because ignorent farmers wanted to farm our Land.
    Now you have to pay and still you cry.
    Not much sympathy Here. I support all road blocks and will take up arms to defend.
    So how far you wannna go?

  21. 6:00pm est. The site is down, and every link I have is not working.
    As an Ontario resident, normally a police supporter, and an admitted Liberal until the provicial candidate parachuted a candidate into my riding, I am completely flaberghasted by this move.
    Freedom of speech is not guaranteed in our charter, but still.
    I hope the site owners find a out-of-country provider and fire it back up.
    If you can’t fix it, hide it. What an attitude.
    And we thought George W was an bad.

  22. You would think that this should be reported in the news but I bet no one hears about it.

  23. Neutralsam, do you really want to start a civil war in Canada? Don’t think for a second that such a thing would turn out well for natives.
    What would turn out well for natives? For one, treat them like all other Canadians are treated; repeal the Indian Act; divvy up the land in the reserves among the members (once! after that, there are no more reserves); eliminate the department of Indian and Northern Affairs; eliminate sentencing guidlines that mandate kid-glove treatment of native prisoners (the present system treats them as none-too-bright children); finally, repeal all the Treaties and make natives normal citizens just like all the rest of us.

  24. “Not much sympathy Here. I support all road blocks and will take up arms to defend.”
    What in the hell are you smoking!!!! Nothing, nothing, nothing in our society is worth taking up arms against one another. Give your head a shake. This is our country, to be shared and nurtured, not torn apart by a bunch of crazies who think it is within their rights to use violence to further their agenda and right perceived wrongs. This is apparently a civilized country where this kind of behavior is not only frowned upon, but usually (sic) acted on.

  25. I noticed that ya’ll missed the part of the statement where it said corrupt courts.
    This is what your site is promoting?
    Why when the glove is thrown, that you wine, not the kind you drink either?

  26. As the owner of http://www.CaledoniaWakeUpCall.com we are trying to find out why our site is down.
    I can assure people we have not authorized the closing down of our site.
    I would like to thank everyone for their support and I hope the site will be back up soon.

  27. Link from neale news appears to be dead. …-
    OPP union attempts to shut down Caledonia website
    Lawyers for the union sent a letter to the website’s host service, Bluehost Inc. informing them that “the organization that identifies itself as Caledonia Wake-up Call has and continues to publish on the website words and images that are false and misleading…” neale news

  28. “I noticed that ya’ll missed the part of the statement where it said corrupt courts”
    I didn’t miss it, I ignored it as whine, not the kind you drink while smoking whatever it is you are smoking. Granted there is corruption in most places, but that is a mighty wide brush you are using.

  29. Free speech rules in Mcguinty land until facts interfere with the vision quest. Go Dalton Go. Everyday you are in power convinces more to emigrate to the new frontier.

  30. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. “
    So what we have here is the Government, or its employees, desiring to close down speech which seeks to redress a grievance against it. Mrs. QM, from beautiful Moose Jaw, has tried to explain what functions as an analog to the American Bill of Rights up there. _I_ think ya’ll need to get busy with putting some clear cut restraints on what your government _can’t_ do.

  31. Neutralsam:
    “I support all road blocks and will take up arms to defend.”
    Translation: I own no property.

  32. A horrendous precedent has been set. Not a word on the msm–either you say the right words or you are toast. and Big Brother decides what the right words are. God help Canada.

  33. The OPP is just amazing… they thumb their noses at the court when it orders them to take down the blocades. They instead go after the victims of the blocades and try to censor their Charter-guaranteed right to freedom of expression.
    Law and order is dead in Ontario.
    The Charter of Rights and Freedoms has been reduced to a piece of paper in Ontario, where its guarantees mean little to the OPP.
    Now… OPP stands for “Officer Poopy Pants”.

  34. Further proof that Liberal ruled territories easily succumb to fascism, liberals seem to prefer it actually. Violent sacred cows can run roughshod over regular people and the Liberals don’t care – but point out the failings of one of their decrepit organizations, and the Law will shut you down.

  35. Still can’t access the site and the server is in the US according to the lawyers letters. I don’t know the law but wonder how much authority anybody in Canada would have against a host server in the United States. As Blue Host seems to be. Perhaps the second letter threatening to name Blue Host as a party to defamation might have spooked Blue Host. I hope Gary posts here again because we can’t get access to him even via e-mail. All links cannot be accessed.
    What an outrage this is.

  36. The whole string of events in Caledonia is a f*cking national disgrace!

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  38. neutralsam . . . you are a complete dink, if everyone with a dispute took up arms instead of following the rule of law, we would have anarchy & bloodshed on a catastrophic scale.
    grow up, get a life, or be prepared for someone who’s really good with a Lee Enfield or Winchester to drill ya from 600m at your beloved barricade

  39. I guess this doesn’t apply in Ontario.
    From the CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS
    RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS IN CANADA.
    1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
    FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS.
    2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
    (a) freedom of conscience and religion;
    (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
    (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
    (d) freedom of association.

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