There’s no one
Just me onry
Sitting on my rittre throne
I work very hard and make up great prans
But nobody ristens, no one understands
Seems that no one takes me serirousry
I’m still watching CNN, and their expert on North Korea, Han Park, tells them via phone from Seoul that the North Korean missiles posed no threat to the United States and we shouldn’t react at all. He also says that North Korea wanted to show their expertise at weapons production in order to sell their wares abroad — and figures that the results reflect positively on Pyongyang.
In other words, Park wants us to believe that North Korea actually impressed people by staging a demonstration of missiles that can’t fly even for one full minute. Riiiiiiiiiiight.
UPDATE II: CNN now reports that six missiles got fired today, including another Taepodong-2. No word yet on the success or failure of the second TD-2.
Updates
NORAD has been “placed on ‘Bravo-Plus’ status, slightly higher than a medium threat level,”
Discussion on anti-missile technology, at the Belmont Club.
“Maybe the Chicoms put them up to multiple launches so as to get a read on our defenses. And maybe some Nork rocket scientists are against a wall tonight.”
Maybe.
Nice name for the missile: Taepodong 2
Sounds more like the name of a marital aid, although in this case I suppose it couldn’t reach the ‘J-spot’.
I feel sorry for the North Korean scientists and their families who will pay a terrible price for this failure.
That is the communist way, punish entire families, it helps weaken family ties throughout the entire sealed-off society, family, after all, being a distraction from devotion to the state.
Just another whackjob commie dictator, murdering millions of his own people by starvation while his little commie dreams crumble around his desperate military gambits.
Wonder what old Fidel “I was a pallbearer at Trudeau’s Funeral” Castro thinks of his NK compadre . . .
I guess the Taepodong 2 suffered from an extreme case of premature trajectulation!!
How sad for the great leader.
Syncro
I think it’s inevitrabrr..inevitribbre that this will all come to a head. But I’ve always wondered why China would allow this wild hair to fester on it’s eastern buttock. Might it be useful to them somehow to have this backwards, horrifyingly indoctrinated and dangerous little sabre-rattling country on it’s doorstep? Seems doubtful.
North Korea is desperate to get a non-aggression treaty with the USA. They are paranoid that they will be attacked. A treaty would enable the regime to relax their military spending and also gain trade access to many Western nations. They need the Amercian currency, the security, the recognition and the trade. The US likes to play “starve and freeze-out the enemy” whenever they meet resistence and want regime change. Other nations watch and learn, don’t cross the USA, you will pay a high price.
“Other nations watch and learn, don’t cross the USA, you will pay a high price.”
….and the problem with that is?
Steve D and Mugs said, “Other nations watch and learn, don’t cross the USA, you will pay a high price.
….and the problem with that is?”
They might actually like exercising real freedoms, instead of faux freedoms enshrined by tinpot dictators and other brainwashed noodleheads.
“(we) need the Amercian currency, the security, the recognition and the trade” and oh by the way, we’re trying to lob a nuclear weapon at your west coast.
What could possibly go wrong with this strategy?
p.s. – Happy July 4th to all our American friends!
Sounds like a fishy explanation. Don’t worry. North Korea is only interested in testing this missile so they will be able to export lots of them to countries that want ICBM’s. Don’t worry about it. What was Mr Park thinking?
Hans I don’t have a problem with the US (or any other country) not being keen on getting crossed, and doing something about it.
I was wondering what problem Steve seen with that?
If the North Korean’s where so paranoid about being attacked why push another country’s buttons?
Hans
It’s not a problem. I was just pointing out to any that maybe don’t know how international relations work. North Korea wants a treaty and they are being ignored so they make a few waves in the area so that Japan and South Korea will call up the President and say, “Will you do deal with this guy? He is making people nervous in our country.
It won’t work, but that is North Korea’s desperate hope.
Watch it folks! Don’t feed the troll. Steve d is here.
BCer
Thanks for your two cents worth. You are much more interesting than any ol troll.
Can’t you people refrain from ‘adolescent, cool speech lingo) and discuss issues directly? That is when you’re not wielding ‘internet baseball bats’
Personally greatful some of you aren’t teaching my offspring.
Earth calling ET — did you have anything at all to do with the ‘space debris’ which came within a hair’s breadth of our planet last night. Imagine it taking out ET, one of its own! LOL Glad it missed you ET. Really I am.
Here’s a focus point for your ‘club’ — concentrate on ‘due process of law’ in gov’t going forward. That’s good gov’t folks.
Apparantly the Great Leader is not desperate enough for talks. This from the NYT who of course or pro Bush.(scarcasm off)
North Korea has demanded bilateral talks with the United States, while the Bush Administration has offered to meet only in six-way talks involving Japan, China, Russia and South Korea as well.
Even the NYT is not seditious enough to claim North Korea is “desperate for talks”.
Truthiness rules!!
Syncro
“(we) need the Amercian currency, the security, the recognition and the trade”
Odd…why would they want to trade within a saturated market containing ~5% of the world’s population?
Oh, right – negative externalities…
Rape their ecology and abuse their population, all to produce cheap trinkets that can sell in a free market.
Why should they bother? Good question. Perhaps China has the answer.
syncro
The missles are tantamount to rattling his cage to get attention. NYT rarely uses language such as countries being desperate for anything. It is not proper journalistic form. Good thing I am not a journalist. To me he is desperate. Clinton got North Korea to stop its nuclear processes and allow monitoring. Clinton was supposed to do a deal. He never did obviously, so Bush has been flat out ignoring North Korea’s demands, kajoling, threats, etc. This has been going on a long time. Yeah, I would say they are desperate all right.
Maurice Strong, Kofi Annan, Paul Martin, Jr., Donguesun Park, and their expert on North Korea, Han Park, Scud, Nodong, and Taepodong(sic) report as follows: You got that, Woody? Yes, Buzz…-
N. Korea fired the total of 10 missiles(Scud, Nodong, Taepodong-2)
Posted by TigerLikesRooster
On 07/04/2006 5:27:47 PM PDT · 76 replies · 2,067+ views
Chosun Ilbo ^ | 07/05/06 | Lee Hawon
/begin my summary Between 3:30am and 7:30am(S. Korean time,) N. Korea fired 10 missile into the direction of East Sea(Sea of Japan,) according to a senior (S. Korean) government official. He added, “N. Korea’s Taepodong-2 was fired at their third or fourth launch, but apparently failed.” Another government official said, “N. Korea fired Scud, Nodong, and Taepodong missiles in sequence.” /end my summary…
freerepublic
Coming soon to an ocean near you;
Lice Lockets from Herr
Starring: Pyon Brando Gyang
Why would N. Korea need to fire off some missiles to get attention? After all, if one believes the N. Korean news media, the Dear Leader, in his very first ever round of golf, achieved 11 holes-in-one…quite an accomplishment. /sarcasm off/
Actually, it appears that one of Dear Leader’s biggest worries is that the populace is starting to understand how bad it is in the hermit kingdom. Until recently, he had them convinced that NK was the most prosperous and successful nation on earth. The increasing flow of people and information across the border is beginnning to have a significant effect on how the populace view his regime.
When faced with possible internal problems, rule number one is to manufacture a threat from without…
Just saw the update from the yabbering head on CTV, she asked the other liberal knowit all “expert” if Bill Clinton would get the call from George W. to go on over to North Korea and save the world.
I kid you not.
CTV is a joke!
N. Korea’s failed efforts are amusing for the moment, but let’s not forget that the early V2 and even the Vanguard tests made for some pretty amusing footage. With time these evolved into the Redstone and Atlas rockets which were very workable pieces of kit. Sinking dictators have a distressing track record of lashing out at everyone around them, both internally, and externally. Let’s hope that if the time comes N. Korea has a Rommel or even a Beria who can pull the plug (successfully) on the head nutbar.
Kate is a political pornographer, like Anne Coulter.
Like any pornographer, or any vendor who feeds any addiction, she sells hits of feeling for those too fucked up to experience it without artificial assistance. In Kate’s case, she sells indignation, anger, rage…call it what you will. A quick shot of adrenaline with a coating of ideological virtue to convince you that your addiction is actually some kind of positive thing.
And like any dealer, she understands that the hits need to get stronger and stronger. In the last two months she and her Coalition of the Witless have moved into a level of anti-rational viciousness that is beyond parody. Check out the recent threads on Caledonia for some of the most naked racism commited to public scrutiny since the heyday of Die Voelkische Beobachter.
She is a horror.
seems this commentator was spot on. you’re really quite pathetic dear. i probably should have waited longer for you to ban me but i’ve had enough of you and your kind. enjoy yourslves.
Always amazes me that the nastiest gliberal commments come from those with no e-mail/blog response link.
Dear davidson, insert balls here => (__)
(__) Still empty huh? That’s what I figured…
Have a source for that quote, Davidson?
Dear Dipstick davidson:
Care to tell us who you are quoting? Or did you make it up all by yourself? Or did you cut and paste it from a comic book? Your last sentence is the only worthwhile part of your post and, with any luck, we’ve seen the last of you.
Ted said…
When I heard it failed in the first 35 or 40 seconds, I wondered if it had help. I know that on part the the missile defense system was a 747 that had a chemical laser that could burn through the skin of a missile. I don’t know the range of it.
http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2006/07/anti-missile-technology.html
I suppose being a mindless whore for the lefty intellectual pimps who peddle victimization disguised as compassion, debachery disguised as inclusion, pandering disguised as respect and of course statism disguised as choice is preferable.
Syncro
Yeah!!! , like he’s gone!
Go ahead and walk over to the door and swing it open and there’s Davidson standing with his nose against the screen.
“What About Davidson”
Baby steps,…. keep your word.
That’s what passes for elevated discourse at My Blahg.
Davidson don’t waste your time
Most are beyond help
These nuts would love to see a nuclear war, like bush and his team are working on, limited Nuclear War. lol
Most of the countries don’t give a shit what the White House says, they have no teeth anymore. They spent their load in Afghanistan and Iraq. They can’t attack NK because then Iran has a million or two troops to send into Iraq. China(weapons systems) and Russia (new fighter jets) are supporting Iran. Britain would love to see Bush fall on his face that way they might be Number one in the world.
Who knows what foolishness goes on in the heads of Government?
US dollar lol Why do you think all the Smart moneys going to Gold, because OPEC is turning to the Euro. That means the dollars headed to the Basement. Korea wants Euros.
Hmmmmmm…. Tag Team Trolling….Where’s the midget?
Syncro
I have to assume that davidson and the like simply suffer from a case of blog and traffic envy.
Warning: The N. Korean males **** on their monuments, too? Sacre bleu… da poof is da poof and when it’s p …-
“Koreans are not shy when it comes to basic needs, the guide forbid to take pictures of men taking a piss on the middle of the road, but there was no problem when it happened in the capital next to to a monument (look at the guy on the steps)”
Reporting From North Korea
One of my brothers stumbled across this web page by a Russian web designer who visited, and photographed, North Korea. The pictures, with his brief accounts, are riveting. This one is of the North Korean countryside. Those are oxen, I think; click to enlarge:
…
This one shows some government architecture and statues. The photograper, Artemii Lebedev, writes:
The plaster statues are clean and not broken apart. North Korea is a perfect reproduction of the year 1950. …- via powerline
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82755
To those who say the US military is overstretched. I say, sure, if you plan on occupying China.
But the US Air Force and Navy, unleashed, could flatten most of Europe and Asia.
And they wouldn’t even have to have grim milestones of Army troop deaths.
I bet the Air Force and Navy types would just love to open up a can of whoop ass.
how exactly is this death ray laser supposed to work? wtf keeps it centred on a moving target from a distance of what, 50 miles? do you people have *any* idea how tiny wobbles from the servos keeping the laser gun tracking would cause the business end of the beam to jiggle wildly? and remember, the missile is going sonic very soon.
also, does the beam burn thru the metal that fast? what is the burn rate of laser vs missile skin? and what about burning through the metal inside the skin? does it hit the fuel and ignite it? or get lucky *every* time and hit the guidance electronics?
hellllooooo!!!! lasers from surface ships or submarimes are going to need really really calm water to steady the beam. not gonna happen !!!
or 1000s of them to make sure youve got one good and close to the missile’s position. not gonna happen !!!
to many questions here to believe anything happened other then the expected first try screwups.
laser shcmaser.
on the other hand if n korea ever did let loose a taepo tidy-bowl dong at the mainland, they would be incinerated by about 100 thermonukes, ‘ask questions later’ style very justified response.
Lets see… North Korea is firing off missles in order to get the evil Bush to pay attention to them. By steve duh’s reasoning, that gangsta firing his (unregistered) handgun at people on the street is just a sign he feels ignored and wants recognition. give me a frikken break, eh.
Happy 4th to my neighbors here and in cyberspace.
I can’t help wondering how many N.Korean technicians and scientists have already been executed for internationally embarrassing their leader…
Maybe some of our favorite trolls here should try speaking their minds in Iran,N.Korea or China before they trumpet their vile hatred of the US and her world stance to defend democracy.They certainly do not hesitate to reap the rewards of America’s vigilance to defend our freedoms….all the while sticking knives in her….Et tu steve d?
It’s amazing, what some people here don’t know or haven’t read.
North Korea’s missiles aren’t ‘about’ anything other than extortion: “We have missiles. Give us hard currency so we can eat or we blow something up.” Like South Korea, maybe.
If the U.S. were as poor as Chile, and Canada was rich, they’d be aiming them at us. That short-dicked little leader of theirs is just a jumped-up convenience store holdup artist. A squinty little wanker.
Too bad he isn’t threatening Israel — he’d up like tomato paste before next week.
Of course NK’s little game of international brinksmanship is bullshit. As others have pointed out, even if his flying phalic symbol had worked out it is no match for western weaponry.
What is of interest is the hand wringing and gnashing of teeth by western lefties who really just want to hug the little fellar.
Freedom through fear, peace through passivity, equality through egalitarianism.
Life is fair and balanced in utopia.
Syncro
CO
I don’t see how NC setting off missles to get the US to take it seriously is a jab at the US?
All I did was point out that in all the world the only country that North Korea wants to have a non aggression pact with is the US. How does that knife the US????
I think you have to understand that there are certain geopolitical realities that exist seperately from me. Whether I comment or not the US is the worlds only superpower for now at least. They are economically and militarily miles ahead of everyone. That means they can bully and otherwise throw their weight around just like every other super power that ever existed. Superpowers get certain things with their dominance. Its not me, I simply point things out I don’t invent them. Sometimes I will conclude or opine but so what everybody does.
If I say that the US can get away with invading pre-emptively while others can’t does that mean I am picking on the US? No, it is merely a fact.
Shall we pretend that when the US throws its weight around everybody has to like it? Do you like everything your neighbour does? Because they are the centre of our worldly universe therefore they are constantly affecting everything by what they do or fail to do.
Texas canuk
If he were dangerous. If he had missles that actually were going to do damage he knows it would be an act of war. He does not want war. If he wanted war he would simply attack South Korea. He knows war would be suicide. He has a good gig. He doesn’t want it to end. He needs lots of help to keep it going. The US wants regime change. They don’t want to help. He can’t get the US to come to the table and sign a pact. He thinks maybe if he caused a little commotion people in the neighbourhood would be alarmed enough to lobby the US to end the impasse. You got a better analysis?
Steved
As I pointed out at 8:41 and you ignored at 8:43 the U.S. has been willing to enter into multi-lateral talks.
At 12:39 you claim NK’s whole aim is to enter into multi-lateral talks.
I pretty much think your analysis sucks slough water. Directly through yer ass.
But that’s just me.
Syncro
Following circa 2004 (Of course, its not easy! Do ya really think nothing has been done since then?):
REACH OUT AND FRY SOMEONE: The Airborne Laser
Ronald Reagan often talked about Star Wars, but what looked improbable in the 80s is closer to reality today, with the Air Force’s Airborne Laser — – a sophisticated, powerful weapon that can take out enemy missiles in flight.
In 2003 the Air Force began testing a weapon with a range measured in hundreds of miles, accuracy measured in inches, a flight time measured in fractions of a second, and uses enough hydrogen peroxide with each shot to give every man and woman serving in the military blonde highlights. No, it’s not an over-the-horizon blow dryer, but rather a potentially major component in America’s Ballistic Missile defense: the Airborne Laser.
Housed inside a highly modified Boeing 747-400F cargo plane (which, incidentally, set a record in 1988 for the heaviest mass (405,659 kg) ever lifted by an aircraft) the mission of the ABL (designated by the Air Force as the YAL-1A) is simple: pick off enemy missiles in flight before they do any damage. The ABL cruises at 40,000 feet, looking for launch signatures from theater range (non-ICBM) ballistic missiles. Once a missile launch is detected, three lasers, directed by a dual-axis mirror housed in the aircraft’s nose, paint the target. Once this critical information is collected, it is relayed to the mirrors that tune the primary laser. At that point, look out, as the megawatt-class COIL (Chemical Oxygen Iodine Laser) lets loose with a 1.315 micron (invisible to the naked eye) beam that heats and ruptures the pressurized fuel tank of the outbound missile. From start to finish the entire process is measured in seconds. Star Wars, indeed.
Airborne Laser Demonstration
A member of Team ABL — – The U.S. Air Force, Boeing, Lockheed Martin and TRW — – works on a scaled Laser Beam Control System built by Lockheed Martin Missiles & Space, Sunnyvale, Calf., that demonstrates the functional performance needed for the Air Force’s Airborne Laser (ABL) (Photo provided courtesy of Boeing).
Finding the Needle
Of course, if it were actually as easy as all that, the Air Force wouldn’t need 2.1 billion dollars to develop the system. Suffice to say, the tasks to be accomplished are enormous.
The first step in shooting down a ballistic missile is to detect the launch of said missile. To accomplish this, the ABL will have an array of six long range Infrared Scan and Track (IRST) sensors (originally developed for use on the Grumman F-14 Tomcat interceptor in the 1970s) arranged around the aircraft to provide 360 degrees of coverage. Once a launch is detected and one or more of the IRST sensors has acquired the missile, data is fed to a modified Low Altitude Navigation and Targeting Infrared for Night (LANTIRN) pod, which will in turn, use laser ranging to determine the three dimensional coordinates of the launched missile. Then the fun begins, as this information is fed to 2 low-power Track Illuminating Lasers (TILLs).
more at:
http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldiertech_ABL,,00.html
Ok North Koreas rocket technology sucks and they are as dumb as a bag of hammers when it comes to nuclear brinkmanship politics but, can they write National Health Care Policy or what.
Credit, where credit is due.
When I heard it failed in the first 35 or 40 seconds, I wondered if it had help. I know that on part the the missile defense system was a 747 that had a chemical laser that could burn through the skin of a missile. I don’t know the range of it.
If your wondering that it had help led you to suspect that some American missile defence effort was at work, you’re almost certainly mistaken.
The modified 747 of which you speak (the Airborne Laser or ABL) is *years* away from actually flying on operational missions. Not only do huge technical problems stand in the way, but the US has yet to develop anything like a serious Concept of Operations for this vehicle.
Nor are any of the other US missile defence assets likely to have been of any use in this instance: a failure during the first few minutes of flight (i.e. during the rocket’s boost-phase) is unlikely to be the result of a collision with any of the interceptors based in Alaska and California, since those (so far unworkable) rockets are mid-course, not boost-phase weapons.
Furthermore, the sea-based Aegis missile defence system is not designed to intercept long-range missiles like the Taepodong-2, so it’s quite unlikely a US Aegis-class ship had anything to do with this NK missile’s failure at forty seconds into the boost-phase.
One final point to Kate, who, in titling her post ‘Arone With My Rittre Skuds,’ apparently found the fact that not all human languages share the same repertoire of phonemes to be a laff riot.
How’s your Korean pronunciation, Kate? Or your Mandarin? Got the intonations down pat, have you?
Will we see you mocking Stephen Harper’s French pronunciation in a post title anytime soon?
Or one of his francophone cabinet ministers’ pronunciation of English?
Didn’t think so.
Yep. That’s the same health care policy as the LPC and the NDP.
Brilliant!!
Syncro
How about Jean Croutons pronunciation of anything,French or English?
LPC Motto
Da proof is da proof if it’s proven to be a good proof, den it is proven!
Phenomes ar fun!!!
Syncro