(bumped to June 4 with updates)
This morning the Ottawa Sun is reporting that Parliament was on the hit list
“They were going after institutional targets,” a source said.
Sources said targets included the Parliament Buildings and the CSIS headquarters in Toronto.
The Canadian Islamic Congress is critical – not at the alleged plotters – but that the government hasn’t been “funding research on “home grown” effects of imported extremism”.
(Last week they were celebrating the CUPE boycott of those dirty joos Israel. “Home grown” effects, indeed.)
Rosie Dimanno;
It takes no sophistication to connect non-existent dots, from Mississauga to Afghanistan, from grievances nurtured in the suburbs of Toronto to a so-called global crusade against Islam, as if the West is responsible for the oppression inflicted upon Muslims, in Muslim nations, by Muslim leaders.
It requires, increasingly, little empirical evidence to excuse the radicalism of pupa militants, including those who enjoy the benefits of our own generous, inclusive and hyper-tolerant society. This is the constituency that protects — tacitly encourages — the nihilism of those driven to violent distraction by what they see as endless victimization of their tribe, a purported world-wide Islamaphobia that can only be redressed by random atrocities.
How quickly, do you think, will these arrests — the judicial process only in its infancy — cease to be about them and become primarily about us?
Glenn Reynolds has morning observations on the media spin cycle that began the instant the arrests were announced, including this comment (from one of Roger Simon’s readers);
Just like our own elites: they truly believe that – if not carefully monitored, us People will riot and string up Muslims from every lamp-post at the least provocation. In their view, the Military, especially, is certain to run amuck at any time (thus the obsessing over Abu Ghraib, and now, jumping all over Haditha) – and, of course, probably has, almost continuously, and Rumsfeld, etc has Covered it Up.
And with Bush in power, the Elites are wringing their hands, knowing that the RedNecks are rampant, uncontrolled, willing and able to do ANYTHING!!!!
See also the good news/bad news analysis this morning by Ed Morrissey.
June 3 commentary follows
Toronto Sun;In a stunning development yesterday, police made a sweeping terrorist bust within the GTA and expected to make several more arrests throughout the night.
“The RCMP, CSIS and the Integrated National Security Enforcement Team arrested individuals throughout the GTA today in relation to terrorist-related offences,” confirmed RCMP spokesman Corp. Michele Paradis.
As of about 9 p.m. last night, Paradis also added “there are ongoing arrests.”
Though unconfirmed, sources have told the Sun police arrested a possible home-grown al-Qaeda terrorist cell operating in Toronto that had planned to bomb the subway as early as Monday.Any guesses at how long it takes the usual suspects to a) downplay the story as much ado about nothing, and/or b) weave it into a conspiracy to turn Canada into Shrubhitler’s police state. Update; It’s already begun.
A news conference will begin shortly.You can listen live at 650 CKOM. On the fly:
– RCMP, along with CSIS and other security partners have arrested 12 adults and 5 young offenders who were planning a series of terrorist attacks on a variety of targets in southern Ontario.
– They’ve been charged under contributing to activity of a terrorist group, commission of firearms and explosives offenses for the benefit of a terrorist group, providing or making available property for the purpose of terrorist activities.
– 3 tons of ammonium nitrate was ordered and delivered. (the 1995 Oklahoma bombing was comleted with only 1 ton of ammonium nitrate)
– they had the capacity and intent to carry out the attacks
– All are Canadian residents from a variety of backgrounds, inspired by Al Qaeda
– Concern about what other groups may be out there, but are satisfied that the threat from this one has been removed.
(A commentor refers to “one brain trust of a reporter” asking a stupid question. Listening just now, about 4 reporters have asked successive questions directly related to the ongoing investigation, despite being told none would be entertained. That’s the beauty of listening to these things live – one gains a first hand appreciation for just how “thick” the news filter is.)
The Toronto Star is now online with a report. Those arrested:1. Fahim Ahmad, 21, Toronto;
2. Zakaria Amara, 20, Mississauga, Ont.;
3. Asad Ansari, 21, Mississauga;
4. Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30, Mississauga;
5. Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, Mississauga;
6. Mohammed Dirie, 22, Kingston, Ont.;
7. Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24, Kingston;
8. Jahmaal James, 23, Toronto;
9. Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19, Toronto;
10. Steven Vikash Chand alias Abdul Shakur, 25, Toronto;
11. Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21, Mississauga;
12. Saad Khalid, 19, of Eclipse Avenue, Mississauga.(What was that quote from the news conference about the individuals not reflecting on any one community?) – here it is: “This operation does not reflect badly on any ethno-cultural group in Canada”.
FLASHBACK: 2005 – Weapons arrests at border – Who Are Dirie and Mohamed?
Considerable blogosphere coverage on this story;
Stephen Taylor has lots more, including a chilling poem.
Stop The ACLU on the internet angle. Pajamas Media has a big roundup. So does Hot Air here and here;
The Muslim Canadian Congress reaction is predictable.
Report from the courthouse.
“This operation does not reflect badly on any ethno-cultural group in Canada”.
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Before we get too relieved about the arrest and prevention of a terrorist attack in Canada, remember; Imigrants or not, in Canada we have protection under the Charter of Rights and freedoms. The writer of that Charter, Pierre Elliot Trudeau. The ONE who was NOT worried about the last world terrorist, Adolf Hitler…. On a motorcycle, with a NAZI Helmet, on a street, in Canada.
The terrorists arrested are “Canadian residents from a variety of backgrounds”. Not “Canadian citizens” but “Canadian residents”
“Adherents of an ideology inspired by Al-Qaeda” – not Al-Qaeda directed, but sympathetic to Al-Qaeda? I don’t buy it. One of those arrested has likely been playing the role of recruiter.
“This operation does not reflect badly on any ethno-cultural group in Canada”.
“We’re not prepared at this time to expose what any of the targets were”
“The TTC was not a target”
“Our information is that they did participate in training together. Altogether” (in confirming there was a training camp)
One brain trust of a reporter asked what the electronics being displayed as evidence was for. “To cause the explosion”. The “Well, duh” moment so far.
Al Qaeda isn’t a centrally directed terrorist organization. ‘Jihad’ is islamofascism and is not necessarily run only by Al Qaeda.
As I’ve remarked on several sites, I think that a major cause of this behaviour is multiculturalism, which locks people into identities defined by ethnicity,and/or ‘country of origin’.
Multiculturalism forces immigrants to identify themselves only within a spatial and temporal reality that is ‘negative’, i.e., ‘not here in this environment’, not here in this culture’ and ‘the way it used to be back in the old country’. In Canada and Europe, we promote this type of identification. We think we are being ‘accepting of them’ by this act. In reality, it works to alienate and isolate them as perennial Others.
It works to prevent youth from developing, by themselves, a new collaborative identity directly relevant to the new country – the new physical environment (Canada), the new economic environment (industrial, market)and develop a new cultural identity that is relevant, that collaboratively INCLUDES all immigrants and all current residents as part of this population and that acknowledges a modern economy.
This profound alienation, which ‘stops dead’ the development of any relevant modern identity and insists that they can only repeat the past (which is not relevant here) forces these youth into a search for another encompassing identity.
Remember, their old ways are not relevant in a modern economy; they are not permitted to develop a modern all-Canadian identity; they are locked into being clones of a particular culture that is kept as an isolate ghetto in Canada.
So, they are prime targets for Islamofascism, which nurtures a broader and deeply emotional inclusiveness, which moves then out of the ethnic ghettoes multiculturalism has put them into.
The step to terrorism is almost inevitable, for they have no ties to the society in which they happen to live. No ties to the rest of the population, for we have set up each group as isolate and separate. No focus on collaboration with other groups to develop a shared identity relevant in N. America. This intellectual and emotional alientation sets up a ‘schizoid’ group and criminality and terrorism is the result.
Nothing, absolutely nothing to do with poverty. But, if you set up people in isolate ghettoes, locked within an irrelevant culture, and prevent them from developing a shared culture – they’ll do it anyway. But, this shared culture happens to be islamofascism rather than Canadian.
a)down play the story—check
b)weave it into a conspiracy-)”It’s a CIA/Zionist plot”–check
I’d like to add 1 more-judging by the situation in the UK.
c)hand-wringing over targeting “ethnic minorities” leading to political appointments to token commitees to discuss how to deny reality. Nice work if you can get it. Should be a real hoot.
Let us hope that the investigation reveals who knew in the muslim community and said nothing.
Wonder if the NSA had anything to do with this capture. Phone calls into the USA from suspicious sources are monitored. Maybe all those anti-bushites in toronto should say thank you.
What a load of rubbish, the conspiracy theorists and the hate Bush/Harper crowd will be working full time to downplay this – not in Canada oh no…its all a plot by Harper LMAO They need to take their heads out of their collective butts and come back to reality.
First,credit where credit is due.
WELL DONE!!! to the RCMP,CSIS,OPP and all others who have saved a lot of Canadians from death and suffering…BRAVO!!!
I must admit however that I am immediately concerned when I see terrorism intersecting with the YOA.I hope they are not home for dinner tonight after our chickensh*t justices get involved.
ET – who is this “you” that “sets up” immigrants in “ghettos” in this country? They come, they sign the forms, and they go out the door. Where they end up is up to them.
How about this – they come, they live whereever they want, and they live under our rule of law – which includes not conspiring to blow us up.
Islamofascism is a mind-control suicide cult. We must crush it.
Yes, well done indeed.
But it does remind us of the axiom – we need to get it right every time. The terrorists only need to get it right once.
I propose a new terrorist prison – on Banks Island in the High Arctic. They could stay warm by hugging a muskox.
“Meanwhile, a quiet Mississauga neighbourhood got a shocking visit from ETF officers who stormed the new subdivision and busted down the door of a Rosehurst Dr”
I live a mile from Rosehurst Dr. I haven’t been on that street, but I would guess the house prices start at around $400K. Some ghetto.
Counting down to the first moonbat to blame this averted attack on Stephen Harper being elected PM. Five.. four.. three.. two…
ET, I agree with some of your points. But, one of the enduring problems here and Europe with immigrant Muslims is their resistence to assimilation in secular democracies. They self-segregate as the Koran expects and instructs them to do.
I think Islam is more of the problem than the multi-culti paradigm. The multi-culti garbage is its insistence that no culture can be deemed flawed.
Or maybe we are both saying the same thing in different ways.
Listening for 10 minutes with the only word(?) giving any reference to: Islam, Muslims, Islamist terrorists, Islamist jihad, and etc., was “Al-Queda”.
The Islamist terrorists captured may well have been Greenlanders from Greenland.
Political correctness is killing Canada.
shaken said: “Let us hope that the investigation reveals who knew in the muslim community and said nothing.”
Where are Dr. Mohamed Elmasry and Liberal Member of Parliament, Omar Alghabra?
“Canadian residents from a variety of backgrounds, inspired by Al Qaeda”
A variety of backgrounds? Why the effort to bend over backward and deny that the perps are Muslim? What is wrong with the idiots in the press?
Reporters: “Stuck on Stupid” since , well, al long time.
I swear to god, if I asked questions like that in my professional life the kind that bone-headed questions reporters do every day, I’d be fired within a week.
I don’t expect EVERY reporter to know every nuance of everything, but you’d expect a basic knowledge of police/legal procedure for most , that political reporters in Ottawa would have some historical background, and that correspondants in war zones would know as much as say a sports reporter knows about the sport he is covering… Sigh.
How ARE reporters hired, anyway?
Lackawana, NY isn’t that far away from this. It make you wonder just where the tenacles spread.
The moonbattery has already begun folks:
http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=009015
To their credit, some on this thread are non-insane. One writes: “3 tons of amoniam nitrate is just a figment of Harpers imagination?????? I am no fan of Harper or the conservatives……they were arrested after a long investigation.”
“I propose a new terrorist prison – on Banks Island in the High Arctic. They could stay warm by hugging a muskox.”
what do you have against Muskox ?? 🙂
It didn’t long, Kate.
Here’s some quotes from rabble:
Josh”Yeah, I’ll be interested to see if there is more than mere suspicion behind this. As I have predicted, Harper and Co. will attempt to use the “terror” threat to create a compliant and supportive populace and media (those that aren’t already in that camp). I have a feeling these arrests are 90% political 10% threat.”
NYCNDP: “Exactly. Shrub’s poodle, Harper (a bi-lingual clone of Blair, no less), has managed to create a hysteria aimed at immigrants. They’re whipping up a frenzy about some “TTC Plot” and picked people out to arrest. All to get suport for more money for CSIS, to help Shrub-Chimp. Go figure.”
My opinion: Congrats to our security forces for finding this out before any deaths! Good work!
Beware of how the left MSm spins this story!
Only last week some stalwart appeaser Lib Senators were taking Peter MacKay to task about Canada’s role in Afghanistan.
MSM will not be long trying to tie the terrorist cells here to events in Afghanistan as well. Who will be first? CBC? Toronto Star? Globe & Mail? CTV?
168 people died in the Oklahoma City bombing with 1 tonne of ammonium nitrate. It frightens me to think the havok 3 tonnes in Toronto would cause.
A Young Offender Islamic terrorist makes his first court appearance.
“OK, young Mohammed. Now, do you know where you are? You’re in a courtroom. Have you ever seen a courtroom on TV? OK, good.
“Now, do you know who I am? No, I’m not the representative of the Zionist oppressor. Although I am Jewish. How very perceptive of you. I can see you and I are going to have some useful dialogue here.
“Mohammed, has your lawyer explained to you why you’re here? Which lawyer? Oh, that’s right, you have three of them here. OK, well, have any of them explained why you’re here? OK.
“Mohammed, you’re here because somebody has accused you of planning to do very bad things. And we’re here to see whether we can help you. No, no, not help you do the very bad thing. No, that’s not our purpose. What is our purpose, then? OK, that’s a tough one. I know there are cultural-linguistic challenges that are going to face us as we grapple with that one.
“I guess, Mohammed, that our purpose is to make sure you come out of all of this with your head held high. You’re a young offender, so that means we, as an enlightened society, don’t hold you to the same standard as we do “real criminals”.
“No, Mohammed, when you turn 18 next week, you’ll still be coming to this court. No, we don’t send you automatically to adult court. We know you’re just too young to handle the shock of dealing with those people.
“OK, down to business. We’re here today to decide what to do with you. Yes, I know Mohammed. The Young Offenders facility isn’t a nice place. Yes, I understand how being around such bad people has hurt you. We’re really sorry about that, and we’ll see what we can do here. OK, I’m ready to hear submissions on release.
“Yes, I understand Mohammed is a first-time offender. Uh huh. That’s good to hear. He’s kept his nose clean to this point. Well, clearly we can’t have him return to the YO facility.
“Is there a parent here to take custody of young Mohammed? His father was arrested last night. How about his mother? Still being sought. OK, I guess that’s out. Any other family? His uncles were also arrested. Is there a spiritual leader? His iman is being sought too. OK, clearly that’s not an alternative.
“I see there’s a representative of social services here. Do you have anywhere you can take this young man until we’ve got through things here?
“A foster home? That would be ideal. Please make the arrangements.
“Tell the foster parent about the charges he’s facing? You aren’t serious. You know we have to respect young Mohammed’s right to privacy.”
Andrew Coyne has the names of the Islamic scumbags.
shaken – the ‘you’ is our social and educational system that focuses on identifying yourself within a particular ethnic group. You are then defined, socially and in our school system, as a representative of that group.
By ‘ghetto’ I don’t mean that they live in one defined area, though, the multicultural focus does mean that ethnic groups tend to cluster in particular areas in cities.
Penny – yes, islamism is a particular problem, one that readily moves into fascism. Islam hasn’t evolved and moved itself into a moderate version. Other religions have moved out of their early locations in tribal economies and have modernized themselves. Islam remains a tribal religion and is primarily a social system (rather than a religion); intensely tribal and isolationist.
But, multiculturalism promotes and enables this isolationism. That’s my point. So, if you have a society that inhibits assimilation and insists on ethnic and religion isolation, AND, then you add a religion that refuses to modernize and is rejecting modernization by moving into fascism, THEN, you’ve got a home-made population of youths who will zip right into fascism.
Ontario residents can rest knowing that these potential terrorists did not use or have dogs, and would protect their health by not smoking in public while planting their bombs. There were also raids in London yesterday, any connection. Lets build a prison for them all on Hans Island.
Can’t wait for layton to comment on this. Will this wake up those leftists in Toronto, those that think we were mean to the khdars, should not deport illegals, everyone deserves a second chance, blah blah blah. Nowhere in the news conference did I hear them say they were born in canada, only that they are residents or citizens of canada. I am sure the US will again be watching the border and demand an ID card for cdns. Wonder if the people of Toronto will stay home today, or still go to malls, take the subway
or go to other public places. Message to Monte, tighten up immigration requirements, deport everyone ordered deported, find them and send them on their way, and if any are involved in this raid, seize all their and their parents property. Also seize the assets of anyone who knew about this and did nothing.
As I was watching the press report on TV I was asking myself–would we have seen anything like this under the LIberals? NO!!! How refreshing that the RCMP and CSIS are allowed to work as police should–protecting Canadians.
Now it we can just get the courts on side with reality. And if we could get the same police/justice excellent work to protect individuals–after all–rapists do not perform their despicable acts out of love–to the person being raped they are also terrorsits, as are home invaders, gun runners, bank robbers and, horror of horrors–young offenders! Time to get tough on all crime.
BC Monkey said: “Counting down to the first moonbat to blame this averted attack on Stephen Harper being elected PM. Five.. four.. three.. two…”
There must be 5,400 (H/T Joe Volpe) moonbats blaming Harper/Bush already.
Below is a copy from a snake from Voy Forums, aka “bigroy”, a regular there. The snake works in at the end a reference to “Gitmo”; it is the standard, left liberal moonbat, Aunty-American ad americanum.
The snake has poison in its open mouth.
This abominable snake, “bigroy”, swallows 3 tons of fertilizer; he still can spew his venom.
…
Subject: Harper uncourageous & cowardly.
Harper is identified by D’Allaire as uncourageous.
I identify him as cowardly.
His job is to protect our democracy, but he leads the authorities, when he knows:
1. those arrested are arrested without charges
2. those arrested are arrested without access to lawyers
3. those arrested are arrested without access to a magistrate
4. those arrested are arrested without the right to a bail hearing
5. those arrested are arrested without a right to know the evidence against them
6. those arrested are arrested without a court hearing
Now – unless anyone on this board can show where it’s a good thing that arrests can be made … in Canada … without basic constitutional rights and democratic freedoms, lessee if the gov’t has the balls to take ’em to court.
We’ve a strong democracy – a strong legal system and a strong people.
We don’t need to be “protected” by ancient, undemocratic methods.
We don’t need another Gitmo in Canada
http://www.voy.com/178771/968.html
qwerty,
The real question is how much was used in the first world trade centre bombing. To understand the power even more, Ohlahoma went off in an open area, deisappating the force to some degree.
This stuff is for bringing down buildings. Imagine 3 tonnes in parking garage of some unanmed bank tower in downtown, or underneathe the ACC or Rogers Centre….The CN tower would be very difficult to bring down, also hard to get close to without a suicide truck…not an unthinkable thought….but I dont know if the force from 3 tonnes in open air is enough
My personal concern..THE internet hb for Canada is across the street from my building. There is a parking garage underneath it. The police mentioned infrastructure…..I wish they would release the target list.
But to repeat this was about bringing down a building, the question is which one or was it multiple buildings.
Finally, was it being coordinated in to coincide with the UK a kind of “day of rage” from the Islamofascits. Multiple targets is a hallmakr of AQ and those who are inspired by it…smart strategy to so nothing uniwque there….
Watching and waiting.
ET, thanks for clarifying.
IMHO, who cares about culture. Do whatever you want. Assimilate, comingle, ghetto-ize. Whatever floats your boat. Similarly, I don’t give two hoots about multi-cult – I won’t “celebrate” it, I just don’t care where you come from or what you like to eat – all I care is that you leave me alone. That means you don’t plot to bomb my family out of existence.
There are two opiats at work here. First, the ones our Librano fools self-administered that blinded them to the Jamaican gun cult and the Islamofascist threat, and the other is dealt by power-hungry misogenist Imams, turning the “Religion of Peace” into a disease of the mind.
No word yet from the feminists over at Rabble about women’s right in Islam… brings new meaning to the expression “let’s get stoned”…
Of course the arrested get the presumption of innocence: thats why their names are released, so the government can’t just disappear people, BUT I want to thank the Canadian Security Community for their preventitive efforts. STANDING ON GUARD FOR THEE!
…So, uh…were they going to blow stuff up because they hate our freedoms? Or because we invaded Afghanistan and are currently killing Muslims there? Or, given our ridiculous open door/no paperwork required joke immigration system, is the question “why” a moot point?
“The TTC was not a target”
The point is irrelevant… Somebody, somewhere was a target.
Look what treasures our liberal immigration policy brought us! Yup, keep voting liberal, Ontarians! You get most of the bad guys anyway!
maz2 said “The Islamist terrorists captured may well have been Greenlanders from Greenland.”
I think you may be right, it is the DANISH connection with those people who like Car-B-Qs for meal preparation. 🙂
With 3 tonnes of ammonium nitrate, I imagine if you placed it all after hours in a tall building near critical structural supports, the terrorists would have achieved the desired effect.
But hey, if you belong to the life is cheap, crowd then they have been making the wrong choice:
Like the old good book says:
“I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse; therefore choose life, that you and your descendants may live, loving The Lord your God, obeying His voice, and cleaving to Him; for that means life to you and length of days, that you may dwell in the land which The Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.” (Deuteronomy 30:1-20 RSV)
Of course it is a no-brainer for most normal people that they choose life to see their normal length of days. Which is why the first poster B Hoax Aware got it right that the terrorist Hitler got it wrong by choosing death.
You see the Islamofacists are making a habit of choosing death, which is pretty inconvenient for those who live in their midst. Because after all if you choose death there is NO Promised Land.
The radical Islamist jihadists need some reeducation on these interesting theological points.
soccermom – these youths are not all recent immigrants; they can be second generation, as are many from non-Islamic countries.
I maintain that there are two problems. One is Islam itself, which as penny pointed out, is a problem. The problem is its refusal to evolve and modernize and reform itself from a fundamentalist tribal ideology. The other problem is multiculturalism, which rejects assimilation and insists on immigrants remaining isolate in dead-end old world cultures.
Rejecting assimilation means that you are confined to your ‘ethnic group’. Since that ethnic group is ideologically empty here (you can’t maintain an old world culture in a different environment) then, the young people are also ideologically empty.
Islamic fascism moves in like an epidemic virus. It provides bonding, a tremendous feeling of belonging outside of your local ethnic group, a sense of a glorious future, a deeply emotive companionship. No fraternity can match it for allegiance!
So – there are two causes. The Middle East and Israel-Palestine are NOT causes; they are just convenient ‘proximate causes’. Colonialism is NOT a cause; that’s just guilt tripping.
The basic causes are first, Islam, which is stuck in tribalism, hasn’t modernized and can’t enable its members to participate in the modern world. The isolation from this is compounded by, second, multiculturalism, which insists that you remain in that ethnic group and not assimilate. The alienated population are then ripe for the virus of fascism.
Going on some of the moonbat blogs is so typical.
Blame Harper, blame bush, blah, blah, ‘these young men were going to use the ammonium nitrate to fertilize a vegetable garden they were growing to help feed the starving orphans that Harper throughout on the street’, or other garbage to that effect. So typical. In reality, in the RCMP and CCIS are working properly, Harper was most likely only briefed about the raids shortly before they happened.
ET, totally agree with your last paragraph. We really see that here in B.C.
A cbc female just said, in interviewing someone, something inferring those arrested were born in Canada. I want to see their birth cetificates. The press conference said, no identifiable group, look at the names, so what else did the misinform us about-no transportation facilities were targets. The justice minister should immediatley ammend the YOA to allow names to be published. For too many years bad people have used the under 18 to carry out criminal acts knowing they could not be named or would not face jail. So, many might be first offenders, do you want them free on bail till they blow up your bldg. I think the attack was scheduled for June 6, 2006. Isn’t 666 the sign of the beast. Did the supplier of ammoniam nitrate inform the authorities of the order, if so, good on them.
Dawg isn’t commenting today, was he arrested? lol
Remember Mr. “X”, the “suicide” at the donut shop in Toronto? Who was Mr. “X”? …
Missing: One Suicide Vest
Yesterday we noted that London police raided a house where chemical weapons of some kind were apparently being produced. Today comes the chilling news that a chemical suicide vest is believed to be missing:
British police were searching for a “suicide vest” laced with dangerous chemicals after a raid of the alleged bomb factory yielded two suspects but no vest.
Police think the vest has been made and will be set off at a busy bus or train station, or in a crowd watching a World Cup game in a local pub, The Times said.
Law enforcement officers wearing oxygen masks and chemical protection gear raided the London house after receiving a tip that the vest had been assembled. The Times reports Scotland Yard thinks the vest was put together in the house. …
powerline news
Hey, this is Canuckistan, we’ll have no racial profiling here. I’m just waiting for Mr. Dithers and friends to demand that we stripsearch 17 seventy-year old Polish nuns just to balance things out.
MaryT wonders what nonsense Jumpin’ Jack Flash will spout, now that a bunch of Islamofascists have been arrested in the GTA?
I can just hear it now: Hey, these guys’ human rights haven’t been respected. These guys are not only immigrants, they’re a minority group AND victims of discrimination in this country. Like the line from the street gang in “West Side Story,” they’re “deprived.”
Jack and company are going to start worrying about a back lash, like the Muslims in Virginia are worried about, reported on the CBC yesterday. They’ll start worrying about the safety of Muslims in Canada and about their “rights” which are probably being denied them.
Never mind that the rights of 3000 plus citizens of the U.S., Canada, and other countries were barbarically violated by airplanes ploughing into the Twin Towers five years ago. Never mind that the rights of citizens and minority groups in Muslim countries are all but non-existent. These denials of human rights don’t concern our intrepid and oh-so-tolerant, multi-culti lefties and members of the MSM.
Never mind that millions of North Americans’ rights and freedoms are in jeopardy because of fanatic Islamofascist terrorists living amongst us; excuse me, Jack has just corrected me: These guys are “freedom fighters.”
All that matters is that because the men arrested belong to a minority group in Canada they are, by definition, victims of awful things: racism, bigotry, red neckism, discrimination, yada, yada, yada.
What PLANET do Jack and all the other nutbars who line up with him live on? Obviously one on which there is a perverted death wish and a decidedly twisted perspective on reality. They will be more worried about a possible backlash against Muslims in Canada, than being concerned about the continued threat of terrorism to Canadian citizens by Islamist fanatics whose express purpose is to wipe us out.
Jack and co. live in a parallel universe to that inhabited by most sane and clear-thinking people. But the Charter of Rights and Freedoms will be hauled out in defence of the Islamist terrorists. Upside down world, or what?
ET’s right on the money re who the “you” is: “[T]he ‘you’ is our social and educational system that focuses on identifying yourself within a particular ethnic group. You are then defined, socially and in our school system, as a representative of that group.”
Here’s a copy of my post on another thread, which provides hard, up-to-the-minute evidence of ET’s assertion:
“And on and on it goes: In the name of “Employment Equity” (sic), the Toronto District School Board’s (TDSB) just asked its employees to complete a most intrusive census. (More below)
“Before PET’s Charter of Rights (sic) and Freedoms (sic), Canadians had more rights and more freedoms: Since 1982, the Charter (of Fights and Fiefdoms) has been used, to control Canadians, first of all, by grouping us according to “victim” status. Has anyone noticed that Canadians who play the victim card seem to have more rights than the rest of us? The Charter has also been extensively used by the Machiavellian Human Rights (sic) Commissions and Canadian Courts to extend victims’ rights at the expense of those of the rest of us.
“New Kid’s altogether right about the isolation of those of us who’ve questioned this totalitarian bent of Canada’s ruling elites. The blogosphere’s a godsend. Let’s hope that it and our new government will be successful in waking Canadians up.
“Back to the TDSB Workforce Census, just one of Trudeau’s many tentacles reaching far into the future with long term, deleterious effects: All kinds of bells going off here. Of course, the census won’t be used to enforce quotas: tell me another. The questions: “Do you identify yourself as: 1. Male? Female? 2. an Aboriginal person? 3. a visible minority? 4. With which one of the following groups do you identify yourself? [16 categories, including “Other” were given: none included the words French or British. I guess “White- Canadian” would include both.] 5. Do you identify yourself as a person with a disability? Yes/No. If Yes, please identify: [6 categories were provided, including “Other”.] 6. Do you identify yourself as: Bisexual? Gay? Heterosexual? Lesbian? Transgender? Transsexual? Two-Spirited {Aboriginal term]?”
“Employees were asked to provide their employee number. Completing the census was voluntary and I know a number of teachers who left it blank, except for their employee number. A little scary? Big Brother–more like Sister in public education–watching?
“The numbers will most definitely be used to further manipulate the composition of the workforce and curriculum content and resources. E.g., Although a traditionalist would never be allowed into a school to talk about the stability of heterosexual marriage for all concerned, homosexual propagandists are regularly welcomed into schools to present their lifestyles as normal and their victimhood as needing state intervention both on their behalf and against “bigots”. Of course, in “Big Sister Land” this is considered “equity”.
“Does anyone think that the data will be used to balance the numbers of males vs females teaching in the Elemenatry panel? (Far fewer than 50% of elementary school teachers are male: Most self-respecting men recoil at the thought of working for a feminist cabal.) Although the data will most certainly be used to hire more minorities, you can bet there won’t be a freeze on hiring women until the numbers are even. As always, “equity” is lopsided and whatever the elites decide it’s going to be.
“Somewhere, surveying the present-day, state-controlled Canada he masterminded, PET’s still smirking.”
BTW, at GOOGLE, the TDSB’s apparent website (http://tdsbweb/census) with more information about this “cannot be found”. The TDSB website is also no help. And there have been no news releases about this by the TDSB. Hmmm . . .
Mary T: A friend of mine and I were just talking a week ago about June 6/06. The scary thing is this was just to damn close.
Thanks Kate for posting the names. I don’t see any Irish, Scotish or Danish names. I wonder if this would have been caught under the Liberals. I really doubt it. They were so busy patting each other on the back they wouldn’t know a terrist plot if it hit them in the head. This is what happens to a country when there is no credible leadership. We are in for troubled roads head. The other thing I noticed was hoow quiet the press gallery was when they were interviewing the police on TV. To bad they didn’t show the PM the same respect.
I’m sure the left probably think it’s a conspiracy concocted by the Conservatives and part of Stephan Harpers “Hidden Agenda” and the plan was to blow up the CBC. The names of the arrested are all aliases. LOLOLOL
“According to sources close to the investigation, the suspects are teenagers and men in their 20s who had a relatively typical Canadian upbringing, but — allegedly spurred on by images of conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan and angered by what they saw as the mistreatment of Muslims at home — became increasingly violent.”
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1149285034044&call_pageid=976163513378&col=969048863474
Reported previously by Canadian Sentinel.
Sentinel has been admonished here to be quiet, shush up, tone it down, and etc.,; a purveyor of doom/gloom; a neo-Cassandra.
Sentinel did his job as his blog ‘nym says:
Canadian Sentinel; a True Canadian Patriot.
Well done, our good and faithful servant; a servant of Canada.
More,please, and faster. …
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/
NIN, CFP Report on Terror Camp in Canada
A few months back I did this post on the terror training camp located in Combermere, Ontario.
Well, Northeast Intelligence Network Director Douglas J. Hagmann, an American, has just written his own piece on the very same matter.
Investigation by the Northeast Intelligence Network has indeed verified the presence of a Jamaat ul Fuqra encampment located in the Madawaska Valley in Combermere, Ontario, just west of the Capital City of Ottawa
Yes, Mr. Hagmann, we do indeed stand on guard for thee. As a Canadian, I have, with that earlier post of mine, demonstrated exactly that… and now America has the proof that Canada is not just full of socialist peaceniks.
I thank you for looking into it.
We certainly do have a lot in common, we Canadians and Americans.
And we stand united and together fight the enemies of freedom, democracy and the rule of law.
We stand on guard for thee!