I’lll be knee deep in racecar repaint today, so it’s a reader tips morning.
Real Clear Politics on the Canadian threat to US border security. We can stick our heads in the “but what about the tourism!” sand all we wish, but this issue is not going to go away without a lot of work on the part of our governments.
The courts give winking approval to polygamy.
While the former Liberal government maintained that polygamy is criminal in Canada, documents released to Sun Media through access to information show that polygamous marriages have been recognized “for limited purposes” to enforce financial obligations of husbands with multiple wives.
Papa Joe Volpe, Internet Enforcer. Let this be a lesson to you all – don’t register your domain with Canadian Domain Name Services.
Truth or Politics? – Larry Spencer has his say.
Head Explosion Alert! Genetically modified environmentally friendly fuel.
“The New Iowa”. The Chronicle Review examines the future role of blogs in American politics.
Add yours in the comments.
Paul Martin is tabling a motion to make sure the Kelowna Accord is honoured:
The truth about the Kelowna Accord:
The aboriginal groups put together a 26 page wish list.
3 days before the election call in Kelowna Paul Martin scratched a figure of some 5 billion over 5 years on a piece of paper
NO province or group signed this piece of paper. NO funds were allocated in Liberal budgets. NO parliamentary approval was ever given .
NO plan or action plan or even a break down of how the funds would be allocated was ever done
As part of their re-election bid the Martinites then trumped up a news release crowing that they had a big deal called the kelowna Accord and they campaigned on it.
It was in fact A LIBERAL ELECTION PROMISE – not an agreement with the Government of Canada as they are now lying to the people and especially the Aboriginals.
So Paul Martin now wants the government to follow through on HIS little personal one page hand written promise to spend 5 billion dollars which had NO plan, NO money budgeted for, NO parliamentary approval and NO signatures from any of the stake holders.
WOW. Martin STILL counts on us ALL being stupid and the MEDIA being his accomplice in this scam.
Let us see which MEDIA stands up and calls this shyster on this mythical “Accord”. The Conservatives asked for soem documentation on it and all the Liberals gave them was their own press release.
Aboriginals voted Liberal based on a sham, smoke and mirrors and empty promises. Time to end the circle of deceipt.
And, PS – it was sickening to hear Paul martin talk about the third world plight of our aboriginal people, their living conditions, suicide rates, etc. when HE himself was part of the government that shafted them!!!!!!
NOW I’m p-eeeeed off. I felt like slapping the TV when I heard him speak. AND the speech sure sounded a lot like the Beer and Popcorn Scott Reid empty platitudes to me. Can anyone find out if that weasel is STILL sucking off the public trough through Martin?
I found the article; it had been removed from the main page of the G&M website (possibly just for other news). It’s by Jane Taber and specifically says that the Volpe team had the website shut down.
Her article is:
Campaign gets tangled in website spoof.
I don’t know if I can get the full URL. Sorry.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060602.gtliberalsweb02/BNStory/Technology/
“Mr. Volpe’s campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: “Hi Everyone,” wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. “There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.
“My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . .”
Now, that says pretty clearly, from a member of Volpe’s team that ‘MY OFFICE has had the website suspended’.
So, CIRA is lying; it wasn’t just shut down because of regulations; it was shut down because Joe Volpe’s office specifically intervened and had them shut it down.
http://www.youthforvolpe.com
This page is parked free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com
I’ll try to post this again without the URL that blocked it.
Jane Taber wrote an article in the G&M that specifically says that the Volpe team shut down the website. Here’s the quote from her article:
“Mr. Volpe’s campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: “Hi Everyone,” wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. “There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.
“My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . .”
There. Brendan Johnstone, a member of Volpe’s team, specifically informs everyone that the Volpe team had the site shut down.
CIRA is lying; they didn’t shut down the site on a technicality. They shut it down because Volpe’s office asked them to do so.
Check out the article in the G&M today, by Jane Taber. Title is ‘Campaign gets tangled in website spoof’.
Hope this gets by kate’s filter.
If anyone bothers to do a whois on the domain name, they will note that there appear to be false information associated with it’s original registration.
It is not only CIRA that will respond to complaints regarding falsely registered domains, but so will INTERNIC. In fact, even .com domains have been suspended because the registrant information provided was false.
This is not a defence of Joe Volpe – and I have to wonder about the speed in which the domain name was suspended, but certainly it is NOT uncommom to have domain names suspended ANYWHERE in the world where false information is provided.
If you read any agreement, including CIRA’s nutty and crazy reams and reams of crap you have to agree to when registering a domain, there is a section about providing false information regarding the registrant, or incorrect information, or even not keeping the registrant information, including phone number and postal address updated when it changes.
So, take a pill and relax a bit.
I’ll see how much of Jane Taber’s article I can post. I don’t have maz2’s skills!!
Campaign gets tangled in website spoof
JANE TABER
Globe and Mail Update
It was all the buzz in official Ottawa yesterday — a hilarious political whodunit in this age of websites, platforms and templates.
Overnight, someone built a website spoofing Liberal leadership candidate Joe Volpe and his acceptance of thousands of dollars in campaign donations from children, including the 11-year-old twins of a former vice-president of a generic drug company.
By early yesterday afternoon, the Volpe team had the website pulled down.
It was called youthforvolpe.ca and asked children to donate $5,400 and indicate whether the credit card being used is “mommy’s or daddy’s. . . .”
It also included testimonials, and under the heading, “How can you help,” it said: “Want to support Joe, but don’t know if you can? Talk to your parents, you might have already done your part.”
Early yesterday, the website address was flying into the inboxes of politicians, political staffers, journalists and even the strategists from other leadership campaigns.
Mr. Volpe’s campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: “Hi Everyone,” wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. “There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.
“My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . .”
At one point, the Michael Ignatieff campaign’s Quebec youth director, Marc-André Gendron, was suspected because the website was similar to other political sites he had created. Mr. Gendron denied any involvement, pointing out that one of the testimonials was from two children named Chris and Toby Aggarwal. As it turns out, Sachin Aggarwal is the Ignatieff campaign’s director of operations.
“. . . It strikes me as an effort to frame us,” a senior Ignatieff strategist said.
New Kid,
“It’s the thought that counts, right?”
Good intentions that remain un-fulfilled reminded me of my time in Arabia. When an Arab commits to doing something, they consider half the is job done.
Me: Hello may I please speak to Mr. Mr. Aziz?
AZIZ, AZIZ
Me: Mr. Aziz you said that it would take one week to repair my clothes washer.
Mr. Aziz: Yes of course
Me: That was 3 weeks ago.
Mr. Aziz: Yes
Me: Last week you said it be repaired and returned by yesterday at the latest.
Mr. Aziz: Yes of course
Me: But you didn’t return it yesterday!
Mr. Aziz: Yes
Me: But you promised.
Mr. Aziz: Yes
Me: When will you return it?
Mr.Aziz: Tomorrow
Me: Do you promise?
Mr. Aziz: Yes of course
Me: Thank you
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No, Ian, you are missing the point.
The point is the right of freedom of speech that was suspended by request of Volpe’s office. The fact that the name was fake is the ‘de facto’ reason but the deeper reason was the content of the site.
You know this and yet are focusing on the superficiality of the name. That’s like Volpe telling us that the children were so impressed with hearing him that they asked their parents how they could help his cause. Sure.
The real problem is that Volpe wanted the site shut down. The technicality of achieving this isn’t the point. The point is his rejection of our freedom of speech. And that’s something to be very upset about, even if it bores you to death.
ET, you are wrong. This has NOTHING to do with freedom of speech. Whoever set up the website is free to post their content anywhere they like, that will accept their content – but they must follow rules like ANY contract if they want to register a domain name.
You don’t seem to understand that when you register a domain name, you enter a CONTRACT, which you negate when you provide false information.
Thanks for that ET, while Turquotte’s explanation sounded reasonable, he led off the interview with Rutherford with a short “no” when asked if the Volpe team contacted them. But when Dave asked the question a few times later in the interview, he used the same phrase over and over. It seemed like he was trying to answer the question without lying but not revealing the truth (I can’t remember the exact words, but since he repeated the same thing, it was obviously a talking point that he was told to get out there) I’ll see if it is archived and try to get the link.
You may also recall a kerfuffle regarding the Sinclair Stevens website re, the Stop Harper campaign.
Folks tried to have that website shutdown based on the VERY same reasoning – that it was falsely registered.
Now, in that case, the registrar was ABLE to contact good ol’ Sinc, and made the changes to the registrant information.
In this case, because the registrant information is so blatantly false, CIRA likely could not get in touch with the registrant.
I wonder, ET, if you would be defending Sinc Stevens, when Kate and I were both working on that issue, and were both involved in some work regarding the Stop Harper site. Hmmm? Think we were trying to prevent free speech??
Lee, I don’t think that the protesters were in the country illegally. One of them, a young man from Montreal, is a Canadian activist, who went to the very best schools etc, and defines himself as an anarchist, etc.
They were protesting deportation of illegal immigrants. I’m sure you know the type of protestor – the ‘hug-a-thug’ mentality, that suggests that all people who do anything illegal do so only because the government is Evil. So, entering the country illegally means that the individual is a Good Person and the government is Evil, in trying to deport them.
Lorraine, many many thanks for the information about Kelowna. As you point out, a bag of empty vacuity, but, it can and will be used for emotional attacks by the Liberals and NDP against Harper.
I’m curious to see how shamelessly the Libranos will now paint themselves as the party of “Canadian Values” — using children as mules for financial end runs around the election laws, moving ruthlessly to intimidate and suppress fair comment — and this not from the rank and file, but from a leadership contender for their party. Watch for the brown shirts and the broken glass!
ET: Just in the interest of accuracy, Passport Office employees, since they are federal, would be members of PSAC (Public Service Alliance of Canada–a stupid union like CUPE) or PIPS (Professional Institute of the Public Service–a pretty intelligent union: computer types, engineers etc.).
Mark
Ottawa
Lorriane: I had Paulie on too. Get a big bag of spounges to throw at the TV! Notice that he only crawls out of his hole on First Nations issues??? This just makes me sick. It seems that it doesn’t matter to him that he was voted out! I think he owes to many “favours” to a lot of Indian Chief’s for their years of loyality to the Lier’s Club, to have the Kelowna deal ripped up.
georgev–Turcotte stated that ‘they have records of calls–AND NO ONE REMEMBERS VOLPE’S OFFICE CONTACTING THEM! If you have records you check them–if you don’t you go on memory–either the records are faulty or their memories are!
I liked the caller at the end of the segment that called in and told Turcotte in less than a minute how to find out whose site it was! Turcotte is supposed to be knowlegable in this field? Wonder if he can trace kids that are downloading music?
Thanks Mark, for the update on CUPE/PSAC. As you note, my comment was about their union-membership and I am very opposed to unions in our modern era.
Ian Scott, freedom of speech is a charter right, for a reason. You don’t, ethically, shut it down. The fact that you yourself shut down a domain, using a technicality as the reason, when the real reason was the fact that you didn’t like what the content (a load of spam?????) – is your problem.
Again, Volpe’s staff member, Brenden Johnstone, specifically informed people by email that ‘my office has had the website suspended’. That’s a violation of freedom of speech. The fact that it was able to do so on a technicality is irrelevant.
Now, if the site were slanderous, which doesn’t mean critical opinions but if it was filled with actual lies about your factual reality, then, you can counter the website for the legality of its content. If it stated that you had sold your children into slavery; that you had laundered all your income, that you were a gun runner etc etc; that’s libel.
But, if the website is a satirical critique of you, using all kinds of hyperbole, metaphor, analogy etc, then, tough. That’s the opinion of the writer and it’s their right to have that opinion. If the website called you a smug idiot writer, teacher, employer, etc, tough. That’s free speech. If the website was an attempt to stop your political campaign, and was filled with hostile opinions and discussion – tough, that’s free speech.
The report referring to PM Steven Martin was rebroadcast, and I tried to see if it was repeated, but the phone rang, along with the doorbell so missed it. It will probably be on again, unless cbc has caught the slip of the tongue. Re Volpe, who was it on Hogan’s Heroes that always said “I know nothing”. Congratulations to the Tofield AB girl for placing 2nd in the Scripps Spelling Bee in Washington. Kelowna Accord another liberal scam, along with child-care. Lots of words but no documentation, motions, budget allotments, and still the aboriginals and toronto voted for liberals. Cdns will (or should) be more aware of so called promises and demand to see proof during next election. When looking at all the leadership candidates just think of them as possible cabinet ministers if libs ever get back in. Boycott Apotec drugs and products. OT. It took the liberals 13 yrs to keep promises unfulfilled, the WTC site has not been rebuilt, and no one can agree on what should be built, but the leftists and media in Canada and the US are upset that Iraq and Afganistan have not been rebuilt and stabilized in 3 yrs.
Free speech has NOTHING to do with not fulfilling a contract, E.
Title of the Martin story in G&M=and miles to go before he sleeps= Did they credit where this line comes from, did they plagarize a poem, are there readers out there that think the person writing that column or the editors actually thought that up themselves. Yes, martin will go miles before he sleeps, on money he should be paying in cdn taxes.
Thanks, GEORGE, I had a momentary brain cramp and couldn’t remeber the words, but remembered that there was an evasion.
First, Ian, I didn’t give you any permission to use my personal rather than blog name. In my view, that is discourteous on your part. I’d appreciate it if you stuck to my blog name (my initials).
Now, back to Volpe. His people shut down the blog. The ‘fact’ that it exists ‘somewhere’ is irrelevant. Volpe’s team wanted the site shut down; they admit they contacted CIRA and CDNS for that particular purpose – to ‘suspend the website’. Now, the excuse that they used, a registration listing, is superficial and I find your focus on that, while ignoring the deeper issue of free speech, disturbing.
As was pointed out, the owner could have been contacted; a caller informed Turcotte how to do this (as if he didn’t know????!!).
Of course, I accept your point about false versus valid registration of a domain name! But, that’s not the issue. Volpe’s people weren’t interested in the site’s false/valid registration. The didn’t give a damn about that. They were interested in shutting it down because of its CONTENT. That is, they were stopping free speech. That remains the focus – a political team that is attempting to stop free speech.
ET, I’m simply using my freedom of speech in using your name. “Discourteous” is your projection upon my use of your name, and I don’t really care about your “feelings” or “projections.” What was it that you said about your students? I’ll have to go look up that quote.
Secondly, it has become obvious that you still don’t have a clue about freedom of speech, the Internet and domain name registrations, or contract law.
Tell you what E, if you are so passionate about “free speech” on the Internet, come pay my fibre bill, which runs at almost 1.5 grand a month.
If I don’t pay my bills (thereby negating my contract), I get caught off.
Freedom of speech has nothing to do with what you are trying to suggest. If you truly believe it does, then why don’t you criticize both myself and Kate McMillan for our efforts regarding the block harper domain, sometime ago?
“As was pointed out, the owner could have been contacted; a caller informed Turcotte how to do this (as if he didn’t know????!!).”
And how do you know this was not attempted? If the “owner” provided false information, then how could they contact the owner?
I don’t know.. but I would say it is probable that an attempt at contact WAS made – but when the registrant failed to update the whois information, it was suspended.
We don’t know ALL the details, E.
Ian Scott – no, using my personal name is not a right of freedom of speech. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech and it is silly of you to try to correlate the two. It’s just discourteous boorishness on your part. I know the names of various people who post on this site, but I would never, ever, use their non-blog names.
Freedom of speech means, not that you can say anything that pops into your head, but that you can say anything within the context of an openness of that speech to debate. So, if I stand up and preach hate dogma, that is not free speech, because the content is not open to debate. It’s authoritarian law. And, the old standard, if I yell ‘fire’ in a theatre, when there is no fire, that is not free speech.
Therefore, as well, your use of my personal name has zilch to do with free speech and everything to do with boorish discourtesy. If you continue to do so, I’ll simply ignore you; that’s my right.
What you continue to ignore, in your focus on the ‘false/valid registration’ is the fact that Volpe’s people contacted CIRA and CDNS to suspend the website. I’ve provided the quoted email from Brenden Johnstone. Their interest was not on the technicality but on the content.
E, just to let you know… here is the whois information for the domain name:
Admin-Name: Mr Mike Hunt
Admin-Title:
Admin-Postal: 868 Main Street
Belleville ON K8N2Y8 Canada
Admin-Phone: 905-338-4949
Admin-Fax:
Admin-Mailbox: youthforvolpe@hotmail.com
I just called the phone no. It’s not in service.
Funny that it would be a 905 number for a Belleville address.. now, let us go check out 868 Main Street in Bellville.. let’s see what we find there.
I’ve also sent an email to the email address. I’ll let you know if I get a response 🙂
Not conservative: “Kill them Islamofascists!”
Conservative:
“The National Post of Tuesday May 30 reported that a study of Ontario students showed that male students felt as much discriminated against as females.”
tim.blogware.com/
“It is an uncomfortable conclusion from happiness research data perhaps – but multicultural communities tend to be less trusting and less happy.
Research by the Home Office suggests that the more ethnically diverse an area is, the less people are likely to trust each other.
The Commission for Racial Equality has also done work looking at the effect of diversity on well-being.
Interviewed on The Happiness Formula, the chair of the Commission for Racial Equality, Trevor Phillips accepts that people are happier if they are with people like themselves.”
news.bbc.co.uk/
Good article on how baby seats – now mandatory in Ontario for children 8 and under – may not actually make children 4 to 8 any safer:
http://www.freakonomics.com/times0710.php
E, you don’t understand freedom of speech. Whether or not you think me “boorish” for using your full name is your opinion. Now, Kate of course can ban me or do whatever with my comments on her website – but I can also post on my own blog, and address you however I like. Boorishness and freedom of speech are not related.
ET–you are absolutely right. They can use all the liberal spin they want to but the fact remains that this was a precedent setting strike against free speech. They snow us with bafflegab until our head spins–but the core message from the Liberals is–shut up, we will control what you see and hear–soon to be joined by what we think!
There are always those who will defend the indefensible–thank God there are still people like you who will not be deterred
Silence of a Website: A website died. Killed by Librano$ in Canada.
Silence: “how social power dynamics, in a highly gendered form, are played out to induce silence.”
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Bangladesh: Sexual Harassment and the Public Woman
Himal magazine ^ | May 2002 | Dina M Siddiqi
Excerpt:
Voices from the grave It is paradoxical but perhaps not surprising that the voices of the powerless are heard more clearly after their deaths. Death offers a different kind of safety, cruelly enough. To take an example from India, the suicide of High Court Advocate Sangeeta Sharma in Andhra Pradesh, India, on 15 June 2000, due to alleged sexual harassment by fellow lawyers, is illustrative. It indicates that the problem is not one of powerlessness in a straightforward manner. The Sharma case provides a critical reminder of how social power dynamics, in a highly gendered form, are played out to induce silence. Sharma sought legal assistance from a women’s group but refused to divulge in public the names of those harassing her, fearful of any reprisals on her and her young child. Unable to alter the situation of harassment she faced, Sharma ultimately committed suicide. She did, however, leave behind evidence of grave misconduct on the part of fellow lawyers and senior advocates. As with Simi, the victim of harassment felt protection and justice could only be attained in death. …
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642423/posts
ET:
I agreee with you. The issue is the intent, not the result.
Even if the Volpe people had been unsuccessful in their attempt to have the site shut down, the fact that they tried speaks volumes.
Dedicated to Dbak Volpe.
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Russia: ‘Phallic’ Case Threatens Internet Freedom
Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty | June 2, 2006 | Brian Whitmore
Posted on 06/02/2006 11:19:10 AM PDT by sergey1973
When Russian prosecutors opened a criminal case against journalist Vladimir Rakhmanov for writing a satirical Internet article calling President Vladimir Putin the nation’s “phallic symbol,” it raised eyebrows. But a case that began as an odd curiosity in Russia’s Ivanovo Oblast is quickly becoming an international cause. Reporters Without Borders has taken up Rakhmankov’s case as part of what it calls a campaign to preserve Internet press freedom in Russia and elsewhere in the former Soviet Union. With print and broadcast journalism already subject to heavy-handed state control, free-press advocates are increasingly looking to save the Internet as the region’s last censorship-free zone.
PRAGUE, June 2, 2006 (RFE/RL) — Rakhmankov’s article comparing Putin to a phallic symbol wasn’t the first time the online journalist has irritated the authorities.
In March, he accused Ivanovo Governor Mikhail Men of taking bribes. In an interview with RFE/RL’s Russian Service, Rakhmankov …
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642408/posts
Ian – The fact that you have a website and use my personal name there, without my permission, is irrelevant. I’m hardly interested in your website.
That’s exactly what I said – boorishness and freedom of speech are not related.
The fact that you do something personal to someone, when another person asks you not to do so- and you justify it by saying ‘I’ll do whatever I want’, even though that action includes another person, remains as I described it – boorish discourtesy.
Goodbye.
Re passports — While getting passports for my family, I noticed the employee we got was very quick and efficient and was processing roughly twice what her cohort beside her was doing. I asked her if she got more money to do more work, and she said no. I told her she should.
I didn’t say “I’ll do whatever I want.” Your projections on what folks write is hillarious.
Just as you suggest that in the quotes you provide earlier that it says anthing about concern for content. Please point to the quote where it says “concern for content.” There are two different sentences quoted – only your projections in your mind is there a definite factual link. The person writing the email may even not realize the difference between a “website” and a “domain name,” which in fact, are not the same thing.
I am no Joe Volpe supporter or a Liberal – those of you like George who wish to take what I’ve written and project upon my words – instead of the actual facts of this matter – well – so be it. This is NOT a freedom of speech matter, no matter what “spin” YOU want to put on it.
The future of blogging? Educated guesses at what the end of the road may look like? Wannabe hill protesters against suppression of ‘freedom of speech’ The silence of the blogosphere is deafening and actually nobody’s listening in the actual deal-cutting arenas. We’re into exporting our democratic wish list to Afghanistan only they really don’t want it. They’re into obeying Allah to the letter of the law. Our lax laws are now entrenched isn’t that obvious. You think the profiteers are going to let the blogosphere stand in their way. Not a chance of a snowball….
“I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . .”
The diktat from the Volpe/Librano$.
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Canadian Liberal Candidate Strongarms the Internet
Stephen Taylor has an almost unbelievable story of censorship and abuse of power in Canada, where Joe Volpe, candidate for leadership of the Liberal party (and eventual candidate for Prime Minister), apparently called his cronies at the Canadian Registrar Authority and had them delete the domain name of a parody web site: Joe Volpe strongarms the Internet and erodes freedom of speech in Canada.
The Globe and Mail reports:
Mr. Volpe’s campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: “Hi Everyone,” wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. “There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.”
“My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . .”
UPDATE at 6/2/06 12:27:07 pm:
A reader emails to say he contacted the Canadian Domain Name Service, and the site’s domain was deleted because false information was used on the registration. (But they certainly acted quickly.)
LGF
Ian–read the words of Jant Taber in the G&M this morning–a rabid Liberal supporter–it is she that said Volpe’s office got the site shut down! Her report–“It was all the buzz in official Ottawa yesterday — a hilarious political whodunit in this age of websites, platforms and templates.
Overnight, someone built a website spoofing Liberal leadership candidate Joe Volpe and his acceptance of thousands of dollars in campaign donations from children, including the 11-year-old twins of a former vice-president of a generic drug company.
By early yesterday afternoon, the Volpe team had the website pulled down.
Her exact report of Johnstone– “Mr. Volpe’s campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: “Hi Everyone,” wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. “There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.
“My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . .”
She probably wrote this before the ‘official spin’ was concocted–but it doesn’t change my original statement–they ban baffle us with techincal BS, but the fact remains they struck a blow against free speech in Canada!
“A reader emails to say he contacted the Canadian Domain Name Service, and the site’s domain was deleted because false information was used on the registration. (But they certainly acted quickly.)”
What does “quickly” mean? I can attest to having a domain name SUSPENDED – not deleted within 48 hours of my complaint to INTERNIC. The domain name that has been referred to in this thread has NOT been deleted – if the registrant agrees to provide factual information that is required when they entered a contract with CIRA, the domain name would no longer be “suspended.”
Like you, ET, I know the names of some of the posters to this blog and it would never occur to me to use anything but their blogging name in a post.
I guess there’s bloggers’ etiquette and then there’s the pig pen. Oinc stat.
Seems Mapquest can’t find an “898 Main St” in Belleville.
maz2 – many thanks for the link to Stephen Taylor. He’s written a great analysis of Volpe’s censorship and attack on freedom of speech. He writes:
“This is absurd, censorship and an abuse of power. As a citizen, regardless of your political affiliation, and as a Internet consumer, this should outrage you. The Internet is for free speech, and this fundamental freedom is really only labeled as such because it is one of those elements of our liberty that had to be protected from tyrants with power. If one cannot lampoon a political candidate (the archetype of free speech in a free society) then we aren’t truly free. What is perhaps most chilling is that this censorship has come from a candidate for the Prime Ministership.”
And, he notes,
“The deletion of the domain name was in full compliance of rules of the CIRA (just because it’s a rule, doesn’t make it right). Supposedly, if one registers a .ca domain name with anonymous details, the domain name can be removed under the CIRA’s rules. However, one first needs to point it out (as Joe Volpe’s campaign did).”
Taylor also notes that the donations from the children was in ‘full compliance’ with the rules, but that didn’t make it right. Equally, Volpe’s cutting out this site was in ‘full compliance with the rules’ but that also isn’t right. It’s a violation of free speech.
“Like you, ET, I know the names of some of the posters to this blog and it would never occur to me to use anything but their blogging name in a post.”
What “occurs” in someone’s mind is a sign of their ability to think. Those who have less “occurences” in their mind are likely less able to think for themselves.
“The Internet is for free speech,..”
Stephen Taylor doesn’t know what he is talking about. He is confusing free speech with contract.
First, the Internet is not even “free.” There is a cost to it. Secondly, when you pay the “fee,” whether it is to a hosting provider, an ISP, or a registrar of domain names, you are entering a contract.
The site developers that registered the domain “youthforvolpe.ca” entered a contract with CIRA.
Simply because they did not comply with the contract and their domain name was suspended, has not eroded their free speech. In fact, as we can apparently see, they have now put up their content somewhere else, where they are not under whatever agreement or contract for use of service at their new location.
Sorry… “where they are not under whatever agreement or contract for use of service at their new location.”
should read:
“”where they are not under whatever agreement or contract for use of service at their new location the same as they were under contract with CIRA for the domain name they falsely procured.”
Here’s the new url for the volpe site. Hope it gets through Kate’s filter. And, let’s hope that Volpe remembers the values of freedom of speech.
http://www.youthforvolpe.no-libs.com/
It’s a bit fuzzy but it’s a reasonable copy of the original.
Found it on Stephen Taylor’s blog.
Ian, your getting repetetive. Think of something new to say, please, im sure your just wasting Kates bandwidth
Lee, Hopefully Kate will appreciate some of the assertions that have been made in this thread, are corrected.
Lee, Hopefully Kate will appreciate some of the assertions that have been made in this thread, are corrected.