Long time SDA readers may have noticed that I seldom mention Jack “Cindy” Layton. There’s a reason for that (beyond the NDP’s fourth party status). I’ve concluded that there are only a few explanations for why Layton says the things he does, and none of them are curable. He’s not worth the time and effort. For example:
Layton urged the Conservative government to grant sanctuary to young soldiers, noting Canada became a safe haven for Americans seeking to avoid the Vietnam draft more than 30 years ago.
“We should be looking at it,” he said. “These young people are courageous individuals. They’ve made a decision of conscience.”
However, there are others willing to waste electrons on him – including Damian Brooks;
What did you say? “Conscience?” You’re a little late to the party there, aren’t you?
I mean, ask Bev Desjarlais what following your conscience gets you in the Jack Layton NDP.
Indeed.
And sticking with that theme: the Globe and Mail’s latest “news story created by a poll commissioned to create a news story” provides the pretext for pollster Allan Gregg to openly long for the day when Canadian Forces leave Afghanistan and return to helping little old ladies cross streets. No, really!
Mark Collins, guest blogging at Daimnation is onto them. Check it out.
Monday morning update – As if on cue, more Laytonesque Logic on display. He wants Canadian troops pulled from the battle against a fundamentalist Islamic government in exile and redeployed to battle a fundamentalist Islamic government in power. His military strategy is impeccable – because the polls tell him so!
Flashback – Back in 2004, the National Post’s Robert Fulford fixed on one of those incurable traits I alluded to.
He’s not quite up to the job. Layton in print differs from Layton on TV. The guy with the moustache, impressively confident if too glib to be quite plausible, can’t be found in this book. In his place we meet a good-hearted, simple-minded chap, a writer without skill and a man without humour.
Emphasis mine.
Some of the comments are being caught in the spam filter and require approval. I’ve got a bit of a learning curve here, so just be patient.
http://www.kamilkisiel.net/gallery/d/1440-1/layton_lenin.jpg
Lenin-Layton.
The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.
Edmund Burke
The one man – one woman marriage unit has been a fundamental building block of the Judeo-Christian west for thousands of years. Changing it could have many unforseen ramifications and we should proceed slowly.
Some reasons not to have SSM (some of which you or I may think are valid or not)
1. It is not endorsed by the Christian God.
2. It is a fruitless union and cannot in and of itself help propagate our society.
3. Promiscuous homosexual lifestyles are a major reservoir of HIV/AIDS and other STDs, and should be discouraged.
4. How do you determine a committed homosexual relationship between two loving individuals from a non-sexual relationship of two heterosexuals who are using the SSM law to advantage (tax, inheritance or whatever).
Now tell me why they should have it? What does it give to homosexuals that they can’t already do through legal means?
As for Layton, why waste the time!
The same but different.
How is it that homosexuals and Lesbians having chosen to promote and celebrate their own different status – that being gay – want the same word for marriage? And as much as one might want to belabour the point, redefinition of a word is not a ‘human right.’ Furthermore, the word marriage when applied against anything else, such as fasteners, electrical, etc. only works male to female.
General Lewis MacKenzie on Haroon Siddique (letter to the Star):
“Finally, what upset me enough to pen this letter was the comment that our involvement in Darfur “would help us return to our historic (peacekeeping) role.” A myth and one the media and successive governments have perpetuated, presumably because the majority of Canadians like the idea of letting others do the heavy lifting…Peacekeeping was always a sideline activity for the Canadian Armed Forces…we had at any one time around 1,500 soldiers deployed under the UN flag. At the same time, we had up to 10,000 troops, some armed with nuclear weapons, stationed with NATO on the central front in Germany and France prepared to take on any aggression by the Soviet Union. Peacekeepers? Not!”
How is it that we allow foreigners, with no Canadian roots, like Haroon Siddique, to inform us as to who we are? How is it that we allow delusional leftists to define us based only on their party’s crank ideology?
It’s gotta end.
Dawg:
I guess jack is the liar again as he said he moved out when learning the housing was susidized!
In susidized housing everyone pays rates according to their income but when a sudden increase in income like becoming Toronto city councillor happens the contract written with low income still exists until renewal.
Those rates are not Market rates as then it would be free enterprise housing charging what the market dictates not income!
African Union Official Is Hacked to Death in Darfur
Sign In to E-Mail This Print Single Page Reprints Save
So Commie Jack wants to drop us into this pile of shite instead of Afghanistan. I say we send the Jackster on a fact-finding mission here first.
By LYDIA POLGREEN
Published: May 8, 2006
KALMA CAMP, Sudan, May 8 — An African Union official was hacked to death in this vast, squalid camp today after his post, manned by an unarmed team of eight civilian police officers, was overrun and looted by a mob of angry demonstrators.
Great to see your comment back up!!
As for the gays getting married, why not go to Iran and get married there. And take Jack with you.
Dr.Dawg has almost subverted this thread into a discussion on homosexual marriage.
To return to the original intent of NDP-bashing, may I suggest this post at “The Torch”?
‘The NDP’s failure to understand Darfur and “peacekeeping”‘
http://toyoufromfailinghands.blogspot.com/2006/05/ndps-failure-to-understand-darfur-and.html
Mark
Ottawa
Layton: What is a Muslim? Why are the “Arabs muslims looting raping and killing black muslims in Darfur …” +
Arabs muslims looting raping and killing black muslims in Darfur …
Arabs muslims looting raping and killing black muslims in Darfur (Sudan) Reader comment on article: If the King of Pop[, Michael Jackson,] Converts to Islam …
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/43984 – 96k
Getting back to the G&M poll: there seems to be a huge disconnect between Canadians and Canadian bloggers. Example: check out the level of support among Conservative voters
CONSERVATIVE VOTES
SUPPORT OPPOSE DON’T KNOW
March 06 72% 24% 4%
May 06 57% 38% 5%
Just over half of them support the mission.
I don’t know how many Blogging Tories there are (150 active?) but I doubt you could find five BTs who have voiced opposition to the Afghanistan mission, let alone 38%. And I doubt even 38% of Liberal and NDP bloggers are publicly opposed to Afghanistan.
On the whole 54% of Canadians are now opposed to Afghanistan, yet I’d ballpark fewer than 15% of Canadian blogs that are against it. Correct me if I’m wrong, but prior to recent events in the NDP few if any Canadian parliamentarians spoke out against the mission. On a related note: are there any Canadian mainstream newspapers on record as opposing the Afghanistan mission? Not even in Quebec, where 75% are opposed to the mission? All very strange.
The Arab word for black and slave is the same – Abed.
Given that and the fact that they invented African slavery and still maintain it, makes me wonder why any black would ever become a Muslim of all things.
“Given that and the fact that they invented African slavery and still maintain it, makes me wonder why any black would ever become a Muslim of all things.”
If you dont convert to islam you lose your head.
GOD BLESS THE USA
Deepest-Throat Jerk Layton said: “next major step in deep integration with the United States military.”
Jack-the-socialist-red-assed warbler; genus, socialismus/russki-stalinist. Da. +
Excerpt:
The New Democrats, however, objected to provisions in the treaty that they say could compromise Canadian sovereignty, especially in the Arctic. They also fear the deal will tie Canada too closely to the controversial anti-missile defence shield favoured by the Bush administration in Washington.
“This agreement contains many problems, and that is why we will not be able to support it,” NDP Leader Jack Layton told reporters before the debate began.
“Thi is not the NORAD agreement of old . . . It’s the next major step in deep integration with the United States military.”
A vote on the treaty is expected next Monday, but with the Liberals onside the result is a foregone conclusion. The current NORAD agreement expires May 12. +
http://www.paulding.net/bin/url.cgi/13276.14
MPs set to renew Norad defence deal
OTTAWA (CP) – The House of Commons was set to vote late Monday to renew and expand the Norad pact, a keystone of Canada’s defence for half a century. +
cnews 08 April 2006
Dr Dawg, State out of the marraige business?
Yes, I would like to see that also, however the hitching tradition carries a whole slew of windfall profits to the state, so no potential change there.
A couple enjoys extra freedoms and benefits when a mutual understanding is all that is required for their loyal bond.
Living in separate homes not far apart has additional advantage as well, but may be far too modern a concept for the more traditional. TG
Well, enough on SSM, and back to NDP-bashing. Here’s what Wikipedia has to say about the subsidized housing lie:
Layton and Chow were also the subject of some dispute when a June 14, 1990 Toronto Star article by Tom Kerr accused them of unfairly living in a housing cooperative subsidized by the federal government, despite their high income. Layton and Chow had both lived in the Hazelburn Co-op since 1985, and lived together in an $800 per month three-bedroom apartment after their marriage in 1988. By 1990, their combined annual income was $120,000, and in March of that year they began voluntarily paying an additional $325 per month to offset their share of the co-op’s Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation subsidy, the only members of the co-op to do so. Average Toronto market rent in 1989 was $782 per month, although the Vancouver Province newspaper claimed a comparable dwelling would have been worth $1,500.
In response to the article, the co-op’s board argued that having mixed-income tenants was crucial to the success of co-ops, and that the laws deliberately set aside apartments for those willing to pay market rates, such as Layton and Chow. During the late 1980s and early 1990s they maintained approximately 30% of their units as low income units and provided the rest at what they considered market rent. In June 1990, the city’s solicitor cleared the couple of any wrong-doing, and later that month, Layton and Chow left the co-op and bought a house in Toronto’s Chinatown together with Chow’s mother, a move they said had been planned for some time. Former Toronto mayor John Sewell later wrote in NOW Magazine that rival Toronto city councillor Tom Jakobek had given the story to Tom Kerr.
I won’t go into the sordid details surrounding that fine Conservative gentleman, Tom Jakobek.
On the military thing, I love the cheering squad here for all things and all people martial–except themselves, of course. “Get in there,” as the promoter told the weary boxer, “the bum can’t hurt us.”
Posted by: georgev at May 8, 2006 03:35 AM
**
Now I can read every one else*s opinion in order to form my own. (kidding). I did miss every one else*s insights, though.**
Kidding or not, there is certainly some validity to what you say.
Not such a bad idea, to follow the progress of debate and then add to it with a possible forcast or to carry it forward.
When I first discovered the blog debate, about a year ago, [yeah, I’m a plodder], the question then was how to focus on an agreed priority one, and then bring real weight and pressure to bear.
Not an easy question when vested interests can use $millions of our money to tell us what *we* want.
The priority did seem to focus around ethics in government, [Gomery Inquiry], and a viable whistle blower protection bill, [bill C-11].
These things did form a leading part in a winning campaign, although the Liberal*s *Fear Harper* ploy was a near leathal low blow.
Fortunately an offensive liberal leaning broadcaster so offended voters along the St Lawrence corridor in Quebec, that there was enough offset to win a minority at least.
We notice an ongoing trend of loyalty swinging away from printed media to electronic media.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm
Our assignment, should we choose to muse about it, is how to gather the full weight of our more conservative views, to counter the left, without diluting the unique quality of each individual website like this one. TG
Back to Mr. Layton and his re-assignment of our troops.This is not only foolish and impratical,it is extremely dangerous. Does he not realize that the terrorists actually pay attention to the political climate of thier enemies? This only sends the message that we are waffling on our commitment. They may very well specifically target the Canadian troops,assuming that maybe a quick ten or twenty kills will result in the pulling out of 2,200 troops.If this happens,Jack should be shipped out with the next assignment of peacekeepers. I’m sure the boys would love to have some fun with him.
I am reminded of the philosophy question, if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around does it make a sound?
If the Hollywood intellegensia (sp?) doesn’t make it an issue, does one exist? While Kilgour was making Darfur his hill to die on, where was Jack then? Having Buzz rewrite the budget.
Now we have G. Clooney, his former show ER, followed by MSM and their lemming mentality of reporting the news, making this the issue du-jour and Jack is all high and mighty.
As I have said many times, those on the far right are the fanatics, while those on the far left are the hypocrites. The left never misses an opportunity to prove me correct.
Hot dog; “Darfur Jack” & his tovarisch/comrades vote: Nyet. +
New Norad deal approved in House of Commons
Updated Mon. May. 8 2006 7:55 PM ET
Canadian Press
OTTAWA — The House of Commons has voted to renew and expand the Norad pact, a keystone of Canada’s defence for half a century. …
The latest version of the Canada-U.S. treaty, which expands its watch over sea approaches as well as air and space, passed tonight 257 to 30. +
http://www.paulding.net/bin/url.cgi/13277.5
“Now tell me why they should have it? What does it(SSM) give to homosexuals that they can’t already do through legal means?”Posted by: DKJONES at May 8, 2006 02:49 PM
DK,,,,I usually avoid this topic but I could not resist your question…..By calling their coupling a marriage they are normalizing it.
Sorry to be the first to tell you this,but it’s much too late be concerned now,it has already happened.Like it or hate it,that particular genie will not be jumping back in it’s bottle.
We should cram it back in the bottle with pointy sticks and toss it into Iran at the same tine as we turn it into the world biggest glass ashtray.
Steyn and Wretchard on Free Tibet and more.
Muslims killing Muslims in Darfur: UN says fugedaboutit. …
“Because any effective change in Darfur means altering the politics within the Sudan which is precisely what the UN will prevent at all costs. Mark Steyn describes the deadly gap between the wish and the deed that haunts international politics.
What’s the quintessential leftist cause? It’s the one you see on a gazillion bumper stickers: Free Tibet. Every college in the US has a Free Tibet society: There’s the Indiana University Students for a Free Tibet, and the University of Wisconsin-Madison Students for a Free Tibet, and the Students for a Free Tibet University of Michigan Chapter. Everyone’s for a free Tibet, but no one’s for freeing Tibet.
No one is willing to do what is necessary, not when they realize what it would take. more…
http://www.fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/
Someday down the road in a parliament close to you
we will talk about what a shame it was to let young Cnadians die in the Middle East. The Tories are going to get in up their necks in so much KaKa they’ll wish they never increased our involvment in Afghanistan. The army is trying to recruit more soldiers than ever. I call it a make work project for young Canadians. Our Prime minister is George Bush’s monkey and that’s all he’ll be remembered as. These kids going to war have no idea what they’re getting into. They are pawns in the politicians war games. But this is no game. This is Candians dying for America. The Americans like war.They don’t care if their kids die. I do.
The Afghanis don’t want us there. They don’t trust us, they have been dicked around by America for years.
“They don’t care if their kids die”?!!
Not a knee-jerk anti-American bone in your body, right?