As Canada focuses on Afghanistan and what may be a new and more pronounced role in geopolitics, led by a reinvigorated military, Canadians are asking themselves some difficult questions. One question often forgotten is; what are you personally willing to do? Cjunk tackles the question with a historic twist.
Through training and technology, our soldiers may reign supreme on the battlefield, but our civilization on the whole may have grown vulnerable in its affluence, opulence, progressiveness, and humanistic enlightenment. Cruder, more blunt forces unhindered by these, may now hold the advantage.
At Celestial Junk we take a brief historic sojourn to look at one of the world’s most powerful civilizations, and we find that it collapsed when is was, in fact, at its greatest. Opulence, decadence, and an unwillingness to sacrifice was a significant factor in its demise: CLICK
meshon re links
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/24/terror/main645493.shtml
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20041018-124854-2279r.htm
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_23-10-2004_pg7_54
http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=121734&D=2005-06-15&HC=1
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2005/06/actual_gitmo_ab.html
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=062905D
also some enlighting reading for Jose
And by your logic Jose, you’d berate all drivers because one was killed by a drunk.
Enough for today, I’ve got to go crash some beers and run some people over.
Bruce Interesting that you mention Peanut Butter I hadn’t heard that one. I was more worried about beating innocent people till they puked blood. Call me a touchy feely moonbat but I expect “our side” to be better than that.
Aren’t some of guys christian or something? Isn’t this supposed to be a bad thing. Or are you guys mostly into the old testament?
whistles… ‘do you know the way to ban jose?’
alan “jose it looks like you use aljazeera.com as your news source. If not you write very simular to their slanted twisted B.S. news.
And in the real news– ”
Spend five minutes in google (no don’t go to the Fox News website) looking it up and you’ll come to the same conclusions.
I have never liked Gitmo but until recently I was naive enough to believe that most of the people in it were terrorists. I also didn’t think these people were being tortured. Believe it or not I’d like to give the Bush administration the benefit of the doubt on several things.
Well the truth is out and Gitmo reeks to high heaven. This really pisses me off. I thought the west left this kind of behaviour behind in the 19th century. Its just plain stupid and brutal and its the not the solution.
Alan, thank you for the links. Even though the news about the detainees returning to combat is a year and a half old, I hadn’t heard it yet, so much appreciated. The main reason I started reading and posting here was to broaden my knowledge. I will add some of those sites to the ones I check regularly.
And Rantburg is funny. Certainly not news, but funny.
Hey folks: Don’t feed the trolls. They subsist on attention, cursing, and being taken seriously. If fed, they succeed in taking away from what is a truly interesting, intelligent, and honest debate, among a very diverse community.
Jose:
Me? Christian? Or even Religious? Not likely.
I suppose it follows that someone dumb enough to buy into the standard left-wing propaganda rants about those bad-old Americans and their “neofacist” practices is also naive enough to swallow the lefties’ ridiculous streotypes.
Bruce- Apologies for any presumption of religious feelings on your part. In my defence that wasn’t aimed specificaly at you.
Regardless of your religous persuasion there’s a certain line of human decency that isn’t unreasonable to aspire to. And while you clearly differ with my argument you shouldn’t take a appeal to morality as a personal insult.
Cjunk “Hey folks: Don’t feed the trolls. They subsist on attention, cursing, and being taken seriously. If fed, they succeed in taking away from what is a truly interesting, intelligent, and honest debate, among a very diverse community.”
You must be using a different definition of troll than the one I’m familiar with. While I’ve recieved plenty of insults on Small Dead Animals I’ve never dished any out myself.
Strange that your personal definition of an “interesting, honest, diverse” debate doesn’t actualy have room for an opposing point of view. Well maybe not so strange.
here’s a clip from asia times. if it has substance does’nt sound to good.
Taliban’s Iraq-style spring is sprung
The shooting of American soldiers, suicide car-bomb attacks, bases going up in smoke and inspirational messages: these are some of the images used on a CD made by a group in the Iraq resistance that is being used to motivate and educate the Taliban ahead of their spring offensive in Afghanistan. This year, the Taliban believe they are stronger than before, and the key to their revival is the links they have forged with the Iraqi resistance. – Syed Saleem Shahzad
My daughter is in Air Cadets. The squadron has dwindled to a fraction of what it was just a few years ago, and they urgently need new officers, or they may be disbanded. In discussions at the parents’ meetings, and from my daughter, I hear that cadets get ridiculed by their peers for being in cadets. And this is in a supposedly conservative rural area. And this is cadets, which is not really much of a sacrifice at all; the kids get lots of training and entertainment, it looks good on a resume, and all their costs are covered! The only sacrifice is that the parents have to put some time into fundraising (but nowhere near as much time as they would have to put into a lot of other activities). Looks like parents aren’t even willing to sacrifice some time to give their kids some guidance so they respect another kid in a uniform, let alone the time to have their own kid in cadets. As I see it, it doesn’t bode well for future military recruitment.
What am I personally willing to do?
1. Work as hard as i can to get us out of Afghanistan
Hey folks: Don’t feed the trolls. They subsist on attention, cursing, and being taken seriously. If fed, they succeed in taking away from what is a truly interesting, intelligent, and honest debate, among a very diverse community..
Sound advice. Having a dialogue with trolling idiots is a waste of time.
So good-by, steve d, steve in bc, Jose and agitprop and all of your incarnations or separately.
Of course, we expect you will be back with new names tomorrow, but the pattern and content are getting too familiar and easy to spot. But then, now familiarized, we can be faster in spotting the old troll’s dribble under a new name.
Okay, since when does the Roman Empire equate with the Canadian Federal State? Maybe if you believe we are simply an extension of the USA then yes that may be a valid comparison. However, I am not one who believes that and neither are we an Empire so it doesn’t really apply.
I am willing to take part in real defense against terrorism. That is, working here at home in my community, or on my computer to try to detect the formation of terrorist cells.
I think Celestial Junk would have spent his time better by studying the history of Afganistan. He could have shown how throughout their very long history they have been independent and untameable in the extreme. They have ALWAYS resented foreign armies occupying their land. So if you think Canadian Troops have only to worry about Taliban you are naive. Sorry to all the gungho John Wayne types out there but in the end the tribalism will outlast any length of stay by our troops or any other troops.
I leave you with a sober little peom written after the British lost 16000 men in Afganistan at the height of their Empire.
“When you’re wounded and left,
On Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out,
To cut up your remains,
Just roll on your rifle,
And blow out your brains,
And go to your Gawd,
Like a soldier.”
-Rudyard Kipling
Tomorrow I will use the name Penny.
Afghanistan is the SOURCE AND SUPPLY of 90 percent of the world’s cocaine trade. Our soldiers are there to protect this supply first and foremost and to ready the ground for the oil pipeline to go through. There’s a lot of business opportunity in that to be exploited at our soldiers’ expense. May God protect them this hour.
Today Capt. Trevor Green, God Bless Him now and forever, returned to his homeland, Vancouver, B.C.
Is this what you would have our Canadian youth commit to? Dirty oil and illegal contraband? What kind of a Ukrainian are you McDonnell? You are aware as a history teacher of our youth, perhaps you have pointed it out in your classroom, that 110,000 Russian troops were in there for a decade and retreated in defeat. The Afghans were the ONLY group Alexander the Great could not beat into submission.
You are correct — oppression is NOT THE WAY and our former minority government without debate on floor committed our troops to this vital geo-political business opportunity, nothing more and nothing less. I would not sacrifice even one soldier in these business pursuits. The new minority government is responsible to the free people of this nation and what we should take pride in is that through our reps we can demand the troops be recalled til debate on the floor takes place and the information is circulated as to the real reasons our troops are there.
Technology and defence contracts are the profiteers here as well. The wasted blood of our precious youth for these illicit dollars. NO!
Educate yourselves, don’t chestpound, it’s uncivilized. Let the Afghanis live in the peace of their tribal communes. It will be several generations before they work out their own system of government to suit their societies. They’ve been occupied for 30 years by foreign nationals. An honest government would abandon these business opportunities and tend to the poor conditions here at home such as our own aboriginal communities, child poverty, homelessness, starvation, the education of our youth for tomorrow.
PM Harper spoke about “freedom” for the Afghan women when he walked right passed Canadian women asking to speak to him about the child care program before a music awards event in the maritimes. He didn’t extend to them the time of day. Unacceptable.
No I had the greatest hope for him when he came out the gate from swearing in ceremony and announced aid to farmers and children and gave time frames. Then he did reverse course and these are emergency situations that were the priorities on campaign platforms.
The LIEBERALS handed the election to the Conservatives on a silver platter because they had to get out of the way of the Adscam fallout?
Not much fallout. The sentences that have been handed down are meaningless. The white collar criminals have only received a wrist slapping poised to make their return. NOT IF OUR VOTE COUNTS.
We voted based on the platforms and the platforms were VAGUE at best and phony at worst.
The corporate/industrial/military components are the aggressors and our youth are as expendible as the grass. I SAY NO. ATTEND TO AFGHAN-LIKE CONDITIONS HERE FIRST. THAT SHOULD BE OUR MANDATE TO OUR GOVERNMENT.
And another thing, when some future leader goes out with the troops in the actual front lines, then we can talk about ‘bravery’ and a ‘just war’.
The Americans are already conceding defeat and are aware they have no role in ‘civil wars’, they must abandon the ‘oil agenda’, they have access to the Alberta oil sands and its abundance, our water, etc.
I guarantee I’m as steeped in history, economics, politics and family history in this country as you mcdonnell. I love the Ukrainian culture. My sister-in-law is Ukrainian descent. Therefore, I prize the generation to generation stories and, therefore, WOULD NOT COMMIT OUR YOUTH to such a deceitful and corrupt theater of war.
STAND UP FOR CANADA
STAND UP FOR CANADIANS FAMILIES — ESPECIALLY THE YOUTH
Sorry folks, National service would be a great idea except that, thanks to the glories of multiculturalism, we no longer have a cohesive, patriotic society to draw from. The first loyalties of probably a quarter of our young people are to cultures other than, or even hostile to, the Canadian majority.
The colonial Brits solved that problem by having separate Muslim regiments, Sikh regiments, Guhrkas and so on, to accomodate religious observances, dietary rules and the sheer hatred that some groups had for each other. I don’t see that system working in Canada – not even within our volunteer army – much less with a bunch of conscripts.
Incidently, if a second generation Muslim Canadian, brainwashed in a Wahabi-tainted school, was called to serve in Afghanistan, how would he be likely to respond? Hell, even 5th generation Canadians brainwashed by superanuated hippy parents would be more trouble than they were worth.
Modern armies don’t need a lot of cannon fodder. Even infantry with the duty of “telling the enemy that the war is over” are now pretty high tech and highly trained and often sharper than the average 20 year old. (One year of compulsory service wouldn’t cut it.)
Equip our volunteers better, show them more respect, recruit more actively and get rid of some of the parasitic Ottawa staff. A well-officered professional army works just fine.
Zog “Modern armies don’t need a lot of cannon fodder. Even infantry with the duty of “telling the enemy that the war is over” are now pretty high tech and highly trained and often sharper than the average 20 year old. ”
Plus we now have robotic vehicles doing our killing for us.
I’m not sure about the modern soldier being sharper than the general population. That statement may be true of some classes of servicemen. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to hump dirt, take orders and pull a trigger.
For an interesting take of the modern military from the perspective of US veterans google Soldiers For the Truth. It’s interesting reading.
… “Mr. Harper’s brief address…”
Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg address contained 272 words. +
Harper’s mission statement
National Post ^ | March 15, 2006 | Andrew Coyne
Posted on 03/15/2006 5:51:28 AM PST by Squawk 8888
Stephen Harper’s visit to Afghanistan was significant on many levels — as a gesture of support to the troops, a signal of Canadian commitment, a teaching moment for the public on Canada’s interests in that fight, and in the broader struggle against international terrorism. It was also, needless to say, a masterpiece of political theatre, showcasing both Mr. Harper’s well-known determination and a subtler sense of tone that many doubted he possessed.
But it will be remembered most for what it said of his view of Canada, and the meaning of Canadian nationhood. Though Mr. Harper’s brief address to the troops contained many good lines, memorable for their pith if not their eloquence, it was much more than a rah-rah speech. It was a national mission statement.
It wasn’t just his invocation of a warrior heritage (“cutting and running … is not the Canadian way”) that generations of nationalist mythmakers have tried to paint over. It was his explicit appeal to Canadian idealism. Or perhaps should I say his challenge to it: Mr. Harper wasn’t flattering Canadians, in the manner of so many previous political leaders, on our matchless national worth. He was daring us to prove it.
The Afghanistan mission, he told the troops, is “about more than just defending Canada’s interest.” It is also “about demonstrating an international leadership role for our country. Not carping from the sidelines, but taking a stand on the big issues that matter.”
In case anyone missed his point, he repeated it. “You can’t lead from the bleachers. I want Canada to be a leader … A country that really leads, not a country that just follows … providing leadership on global issues, stepping up to the plate, doing good when good is required.”
Taking a stand? Providing leadership? And doing so, not in easy ways that require no more of us than our own splendid example, but in hard ways that risk Canadian lives? We have not heard such talk from our leaders in a long while. It wasn’t quite “ask not what your country can do for you.” Nor, indeed, was he suggesting Canadians should ask what they can do for their country, but rather what Canada can do for the world, and in that moment he soared.
This was not that fatuous invitation to self-love, “the world needs more Canada.” It was: Canada owes more to the world — more than we have been giving it. And yet it was equally clear that this was as much for Canada’s sake as the world’s.
This notion, after all, of Canada being, or aspiring to be, or having a duty to be, a leader in the world: It’s not self-evident, is it? I can’t imagine the prime minister of, say, Belgium, saying such a thing. No offence to the Belgians: It’s not a part of most nations’ self-definition. It’s usually found only in countries with a glorious past, like France or Britain, or in those with an ideological mission to the world: the Soviet Union, the United States. And Canada?
…
Implicit in Mr. Harper’s address is a very different sort of nationalism: a nationalism of moral purpose. Canada exists to do good, for its own people and for the world. It is defined by its beliefs and measured by its acts, not by the virtues of its people, real or imagined. Indeed, it makes no claim to uniqueness in this regard, but rather upholds principles that are timeless and universal. But it aspires to be the best exemplar of these: in Mr. Harper’s words, to “be a leader.”
We are not used to being spoken to in such terms. But perhaps we are in a mood to listen. +
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1596681/posts
“Hey folks: Don’t feed the trolls.”
Hmmm, I noticed some people get instantly defensive as soon as the word troll came out. Cjunk wasn’t naming names; keep your hair on, stay civil and keep up the intelligent diverse community
: )
Hey, Penny, I wasn’t going to comment on this thread, but do appreciate your nod to me in your post of 11.28 PM yesterday. I consider it a great compliment.
I’ve been meaning to ask you how many years you have you spent living in which European countries to gain your fantastic expertise on social and political conditions there? Merely trying to find if your opinions are fact-based or x-hand.
You seem bloodthirsty enough to qualify for the position of “Bitch of Brampton” when you build a concentration camp there for political prisoners such as Jose, the two Steves and me.
Warmest personal regards, if you know what that means in diplomatic language.
Many Canadians seem mistaken and confused about what soldiers do.
They are not tasked to save lives like emergency medical workers or search and rescue.
Their task (when commanded) is to TAKE lives.
There is nothing harder or comparable.
To require soldiers to kill and then pretend that because they are Canadian soldiers they are doing otherwise is a liberal or “progressive” delusion.
To paraphrase Patton “My job is not to die for my country, my job is to make the other guy die for his.”
no bozos allowed,
I agree with you. And I’m happy as a Canadian with the conduct of our troops. My comments were addressed at the United States.
There’s no conflict between the waging of war and good ethics. In WW2 we captured, tried and executed Nazis. This is something I wholeheartedly approve of. I’d like to see the government officials of several countries (China and Myanamar spring to mind) eventually tried and if found guilty of crimes against humanity executed.
However there’s a world of difference between Nuremberg and Guantomino Bay. That difference is unecessary and thinking otherwise cheapens personal liberty and hands a dangerous level of power to our governments.
Since when did the right become more trusting of Big Government than the left? Did the sides do some kind of pole swap when I wasn’t looking?
Cuba is the perfect place for that prison.
The whole island is a prison.
As for the jihadis, they are in the custody of the USA military and if it is good enough for Americans it is absolutely good enough for them.
The lefties are BLOCKING their military trials.
p.s. How many bodies of Cuban innocents are on the bottom of the Florida Straits jose?
NO ONE knows and Canadians on the left CERTAINLY do not care.
Why don’t you take up a cause for them? sarc
Jose, the problem is that the right now thinks it is Big Government, which puts the shoe on the other foot. And if we don’t watch out, that shoe might morph into a jackboot.
How clever to notice that soldiers wear boots.
no bozos allowed “p.s. How many bodies of Cuban innocents are on the bottom of the Florida Straits jose?”
Sorry I’ve lost count of the number of people we human rights fanboys have sent to to the bottom of the sea. Do people we cut in half count as two people?
Major difference in today’s means for clearing the deck for a clean start, is that the latest tool is nuclear and dirty as Satan himself. Nuclear sickness, something we don’t talk about.
*(The Iranians) must know everything is on the table and they must understand what that means,* US ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton told a group of visiting British politicians last week.
*We can hit different points along the line. You only have to take out one part of their nuclear operation to take the whole thing down.* In other words, he was calmly proposing an illegal attack on a sovereign state, possibly involving nuclear weapons.
http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewNote6.cfm?REF=48
Bolton knew his words would be leaked, so maybe it was just deliberate posturing to raise the pressure on Iran. But on Sunday, addressing the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee in Washington, Bolton repeated the threat:
*The longer we wait to confront the threat Iran poses, the harder and more intractable it will become to solve … We must be prepared to rely on comprehensive solutions and use all the tools at our disposal to stop the Threat…* He may really mean it — and no one in the White House has told him to shut up.
By Gwynne Dyer
TG
Re: jose: “Sorry I’ve lost count of the number of people we human rights fanboys have sent to to the bottom of the sea. Do people we cut in half count as two people?”
What a lame attempt at humour.
Tell it to Elian Gonzales. :0(
No Bozos,
Ask me a silly question and I’ll give you a silly answer.
Bozo, how clever! But I do believe I specified “jackboots” not “combat boots,” and trust that there will continue to be a perceptible difference between them.
The current problem?
http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/
In Zeyad’s THIRD blog post, back on October 18, 2003, he wrote about Muqtada Al-Sadr:
Back to Al-Sadr. He speaks Arabic with an Iranian accent. And I’m sure he was living in Iran before the war, simply because we never heard of him before. Another problem is that he has formed an armed militia called ‘Jaish Al-Mahdi’ or Al-Mahdi’s Army, they dress in black, and wear bands on their foreheads, and have creepy resemblance to Saddam’s Fedayeen. I can spot a tyrant miles away. And this is one.
Time has only vindicated Zeyad’s original assessment.
You may also want to read his post called “Some musing” from the same time.
10words.ca TG
jose Re:”Ask me a silly question”,
Tell me why it is a silly question.
I am very serious about what is likely to be the remains of thousands of innocent Cubans that are on the bottom of the Florida Straits.
Can you begin to imagine what it was like, setting off on a home made raft across 90 miles of ocean.
Could you please try to answer without changing the subject.
agitfact, that is unless those boots “morph” like those right wingers shoes do. sarc
No bozos allowed “Tell me why it is a silly question.”
I don’t support Castro and have said nothing to suggest that I did. I argued you into a corner so you try to change the subject. My response was friendly ridicule.
You’ve heard the quote “It’s not about them. It’s about us.”
It’s not a very difficult concept to grasp really.
Re: Well the truth is out and Gitmo reeks to high heaven.
Is barely an argument.
The USA soldiers at Gitmo are volunteer reservists doing a very tough and a very dangerous job at the request of their President and Congress.
It is the left blocking the military trials for the prisoners at Gitmo. If you “human rights” folks are so concerned about them receiving due process, then quit deliberately delaying the tribunals.
Also, have you ever heard of the cactus wall? It is 20 feet thick and 12 feet high of prickly pear that Pres. For Life Castro planted around Gitmo to keep Cubans from trying to sneak in. I am saying jose, you can easily find people on Cuba who really need some care and attention and FOOD unlike Gitmo prisoners who by all reports have put on quite a bit of weight during their detention.
Hey Tony G…Hi!
Off topic but did you see Pres. Bush in upstate NY yesterday meeting with that young autisitic basketball player, JMac, who scored something like 24 points in a few minutes.
How great is that.
A really terrific story. Young JMac and his family and friends really deserve all the praise and attention.
“Human rights folks” delaying “due process” tribunals. Bozo, what planet are you blogging from?
The only process Gitmo prisoners face is secret military tribunals. The whole set-up is an embarassment deliberately set up to avoid international law in general and US law in particular, right from creating a new class of POW. That in itself should give any citizen of a presumed democracy pause. But who the hell needs habeas corpus when you have the bodies under your unrestricted control, right? And then you make the whole thing look and operate like a Nazi concentration camp to prove your leadership of the free world.
Talk about giving aid and comfort to your enemies! I guess I just don’t understand.
no bozos allowed “The USA soldiers at Gitmo are volunteer reservists doing a very tough and a very dangerous job at the request of their President and Congress”
Actually its not the soldiers that are the problem its the brass. Several former Gtmo detainees report of making friends with their guards and saying that many if not most of the troops treated them like decent human beings. Apparently it became clear to many of the guards long ago that most of the detainees are innocent. Granted its all anecdotal reports, there aren’t any official opinion polls on this matter. But no I don’t necessarily have a quarrel with the soldiers working at Gtmo. I’ve got a problem with the government that they’re taking their orders from.
These are the same “secret” military tribunals that Americans who commit crimes while in the military face.
Like I said, if it is good enough for Americans it is absolutely good enough (many people would say way too good ) for our jihadis enemys.
I GOTTA call bozo on someone who compares Gitmo to a Nazi concentration camp.
The two do not “morph”.-sarc
Bozo, the Uniform Code of Military Justice does not call for indefinite detention, solitary confinement, shackling, blindfolding, interrogation under duress, ignorance of charges and evidence etc. ect. If I have missed the provisions calling for those, I rely on you to point them out. Why do you suppose those enemy combatants are not in Leavenworth or some other US stockade?
I should have mentioned the specific concentration camp I had in mind – Dachau, near Munich, built in 1933 specifically to hold political prisoners. My godfather was a guest there for eight years.
Would you please tell us all how much your poor godfather weighed when he was liberated from Dachau?
To compare Gitmo to a Nazi concentration camp is delusional.
You would introduce your godfathers detention by Nazis and eventual liberation, secured by the blood and treasure of the USA, to advance unfounded and unproven charges AGAINST the same USA now in charge of Gitmo.
Disgusting.
Bye.
agitfact, now embroidering personalized homilies about his family to support his credentials…….
….wasn’t it was only recently too that “steve d” revealed he was 60ish and an honorable vet while spewing the more juvenile age appropriate leftist party line?
Just observing.
Penny…Steve D..is his own self…not me. There is also Steve in Ontario.
I am near 60…but not an honourable vet…no war service, just militia. I grew up on Canadian Army bases and cadet and militia service was just a family expectation. My “spewing the more juvenile age appropriate leftist party line” comes from years of work in social services and probations.
Bozo, I wasn’t there when he got out, but I assume that your assumption of not very much is correct.
Given vicarious experience and some study, I am allergic to signs of fascism and disgusted to see the liberators are acting like the vanquished. Delusional I doubt, but might I suggest cognitive dissonance on your part?
Let’s narrow the scope of our discussion to something verifiable. I called you on your assertion that Gitmo detainees faced the same justice as US servicemen, so put up or shut up.
Penny, your undignified ad hominem does not deserve a reply. No marks for this debating point.
Steve D..is his own self…not me
On the internet we all could be dogs with remarkable typing skills.
And, steve in bc, I, as well, worked a stint in corrections, one year as a psych nurse in a maximum security prison. After listening to all of the sociopathic and manipulative bs of the clients and reading their legal records, I realized that cons are cons. Most I would never want let loose on society again. It shaped my views.
Yes, …the people we meet on the job and in the street. Lies and cons I expect…what bothers me are the ones who are evil and like it.
..what bothers me are the ones who are evil and like it.
Me too.
Check out Theodore Dalrymple at City Journal. He’s a British writer and recently retired prison psychiatrist. Search by author on the home page.
He’s conservative definately, occassionaly a bit prudish, but well reasoned and thought provoking.
Bozos permitted… Agit fact, I’ve been refereeing your exchanges. I declare Bozos Allowance the winner.
I’m purely unbiased on the basis Bozo is more inclined to see the positive side.
Bozo’s point about how much does one weigh after a stint in Auswtiz [sp] compared to Gitmo, was the clincher.
AgitFact.. win some, lose some. You’ll do better next time. TG
This is addressed to all the MLA’s and MP’s in Canada. Isn’t the war in Iraq and Afghanistan a make work project? How many of your son’s and daughter’s are over there? Me thinks not many if any.